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SteveMansfield 19 Aug 11 - 05:27 AM
GUEST,Jon 19 Aug 11 - 05:41 AM
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Trevor Thomas 19 Aug 11 - 06:09 AM
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Subject: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 05:27 AM

One of those Silly Season surveys has compiled answers from iPhone and Android users, and come to some startling conclusions about the differences between the two owner groups.

The survey is here and the self-selecting, unverified, and statistical value of it is obviously in need of a large grain of salt. I present it here purely for the entertainment of others.

But the thing that jumped out at me (other than that My Mileage Definitely Varies, because I'm a happy Android owner but should, according to this, probably be on an iPhone) is their finding that iPhone users are 13% more likely to play a musical instruments than Android users.

Whilst avoiding any religious wars please, what does the panel think? To start off my ceilidh band is probably more Android than iPhone (but more importantly, far more VanillaPhone than Smartphone!)


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 05:41 AM

I seem to be somewhere in between according to the survey.

I don't own this type of device and think it very unlikely I will be buying one in the near future.

That said, if I was to buy one Android would be a candidate and I can say with certainty, it would be neither Apple or Windows based.

I play musical instruments.


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 05:44 AM

iPhone users are 13% more likely to play a musical instruments than Android users.

Okay, I'll bite ...

How do you play an android user?

Or did they mean iPhone users are 13% more likely than Android users to play a musical instrument.


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 06:07 AM

And thinking of other people. While it does not mean they may not own one and I concede I would not always spot one, I've not seen any session player I know locally with a device I've recognised as a smart phone.


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: Trevor Thomas
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 06:09 AM

I play a couple of musical instruments. At the back end of last year, I was due for a new phone. I'd previously had a Windows mobile which was perfectly fine. The new version of Windows mobile looked really good, as did Android, and I was happy to get either of them. I was not particularly interested in an iPhone. My thinking was that Apple tends to railroad you into their way of doing things, whereas with the Windows, I was used to being able to customise everything to how I liked it. When the previous iPhones came out they did not do as many things as the Windows ones did.

The week before I went to the phone shop, I changed my mind on the basis of ONE application, which was about seven or eight pounds. It was called iRealBook, and was an application in which you could have chord charts for (mainly jazz) songs. You could create your own, download ones that other people had put together, and it would play back accompaniment for you. You can change the speed of the playback, transpose it (and the chart) easily to any key in a couple of seconds.

There was an iPhone version and an Android version, but the Android version didn't do playback.

Pretty much entirely on the basis of this I got an iPhone. If I hadn't been musical I definitely would have gone for an Android or Windows phone.

Since getting the thing, I've found some other great applications for music – including really good chromatic tuners, 'preamp' type programs for processing the sound, a four track recorder, and the 'Amazing Slow Downer' which you can use to halve the speed, but retain the pitch of something that you want to learn, but is too fast to catch.

Perhaps the number of musical applications available predisposes the musician to go with the iPhone to an extent? It certainly was 100% behind my decision.


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 06:33 AM

Interesting, Trevor. Thanks.

Being in the "don't own" camp, my observation would be that the players I know appear to be more for dedicated hardware, eg. I know several with something like a Zoom H2 and clip on chromatic tuners are common.

Personally, I think if I was looking for more advanced music apps and having something at least relatively portable, I'd probably be investigating the Tablet computer market rather than the smart phone one.


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: Trevor Thomas
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 09:00 AM

Hi Jon

Yep, I've got a clip on tuner, and looked at Zoom recorders. I came to the conclusion I don't actually want to do much recording, these days, so I didn't bother. But there's always the odd moment, and I've been glad of it. I don't want to carry a camera round, or take loads of photos, but for the odd moment – "ooh I wish I had a camera… ah look, actually I have, I've got one on the phone" – it's great.

Like I say, the iRealBook (now called iRealB) was the prime reason. The tuner I downloaded because it was free, and good to have as a backup. And like the recorder/Camera thing, if it's on your phone, you've always got it with you.

I think I might get a tablet one day. Having a nice big screen is a very appealing idea with my deteriorating eyesight, and for more advanced stuff I think the additional capacity would be better. If I were going to do serious projects, and I could spare the money, I'd seriously consider a tablet. For now, I can't really justify the expense, and to be quite honest, the phone's more than adequate for everything I want for now.

For sheer portable convenience, and my predominantly casual use – sessions and small gigs -, the phone's the business.

If I'm away from home for instance, and have got a guitar/mandolin and my phone I really don't need anything else. I can learn new tunes, do a bit of improvising, I can find a local session on the internet, check it's still happening using the phone/text message, navigate my way to it using the sat nav, check my tuning using the tuner, perhaps record a tune set I don't know using the recorder, take a souvenir photo of the place, and if I want, upload it to facebook. If it's an 'open mic' or anything requiring 'plugging in' I can use it as a pre-amp to go directly into the PA. I can read the latest news from the BBC, (or any number of other sources) access Youtube, book trains, (or even flights) order pizzas, read a Sherlock Holmes story, play Scrabble with someone in Hawaii, find directions to local places, and listen to any music I wish to. I can also browse the Mudcat Cafe on it! And it's all on the one gadget.

Because it's my phone and about the size of a cig packet (and half the thickness) it's automatically in my pocket, and it's all easy.

Any modern smartphone is going to have pretty much this level of usefulness, but yeah, as I say, my initial reason for an iPhone was because I wanted ONE particular program, and it was music related. To some people this might seem like buying a car because you like the stereo, but for me it was reason enough at the time.


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 09:25 AM

Thanks again, Trevor. I can see the backup device idea, both with recorder and camera (and I do have a DSLR but...).

Re eyesight. Yes, that would be a factor in me in probably preferring a tablet option if I wanted more "advanced" things. My close up vision, particularly in poor light, is deteriorating with age...


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 09:36 AM

To some people this might seem like buying a car because you like the stereo, but for me it was reason enough at the time.

And, not to me. While I still very much doubt it would be a device for me, you have done a pretty good job of "selling" one to me, ie. rather than being completely sceptical, I now do understand why you have one.


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: Musket
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 11:29 AM

Interesting. It reckons I am iPhone.

By a strange and unconnected coincidence, I am!

Regarding buying a car for the stereo... For a long time now, I have realised that such devices are not phones with other bits attached, they are what they are which happens to be amongst other things, a phone. A good example being my iPad. it has everything my iPhone has except the phone bit. (Ok, I cheat and use Skype on it when calling abroad which makes it a bit phoneish ....

Some of the apps are brilliant from a music aspect, and for a long time now, various past phones have had lyrics and key / style notes for my repertoire. (The tuner is good, but even better since I bought a device to plug the guitar into the iPhone, so not relying on the microphone.)


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 03:07 PM

What's an android now? Last thing I knew, it was C3PO and R2D2.

Somebody asked me recently what my cell phone number was and I said, "I don't have one. I'm still running around without a collar."

The women thought it was funny. The men didn't know what I was talking about.


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 06:56 PM

Android is an operating system, Leeneia.

It at least potentially (I'm unsure of how the 3 status is) is a lot more open and free than Win or "Apple" and is Linux based. This would be a factor for me if considering a smart phone or for tablet.


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 07:24 PM

Hm. I have an operating system. Windows XP. But I can't carry it around with me, it needs to be a in a machine of some kind.

If I got myself an Android, what would I put it in? I had assumed (from iPhone) that we were talking about cell phones here.

(Etymological thought - how soon before Android becomes a teasing nickname for males named Andrew? Or has it happened already?)


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 07:42 PM

Whether PC, laptop, tablet or Iphone or other smart phone, they all use an operating systems, leeneai...!!

The iPhone one is one purely used (and locked up) by Apple. Andriod is one used by several makers in different brands of phones.


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 07:46 PM

Just looked it up for you, leeneia. The iPhone Operating System is called iOS


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 07:58 PM

(Oh and Leenieia, for putting something with an OS inside something, I used one of these once to wake up a PC to do tv recordings. I thought it looked quite neat)


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: Edthefolkie
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 08:17 PM

Jon - Oh. My. Gawd.

I now realise it's way past my bedtime, but will I dream of bleedin' Linux penguins?


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 08:19 PM

(and here appears to be one in a musical setting)


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 08:21 PM

You've been Tuxed, Ed ;-)


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Subject: RE: Tech: iPhone / Android owners playing music
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 08:33 PM

(and here appears to be one in a musical setting)

No penguin but (I assume) the pengiun's owner playing guitar here

Wonder if the player of my fav youtube classical guitar piece also owns a penguin. Maybe I'll be waking up in the night too, Ed...


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