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Whitby Folk Festival

GUEST,Tatterfoal 28 Aug 11 - 12:29 PM
Linda Kelly 28 Aug 11 - 12:59 PM
Paul Davenport 28 Aug 11 - 06:50 PM
Mo the caller 29 Aug 11 - 12:47 AM
GUEST,Tatterfoal 29 Aug 11 - 05:41 AM
GUEST,henryp 29 Aug 11 - 06:18 AM
GUEST,oggy man 29 Aug 11 - 12:17 PM
Joe Nicholson 29 Aug 11 - 12:29 PM
Surreysinger 29 Aug 11 - 12:33 PM
Jack's Rake 29 Aug 11 - 03:05 PM
greg stephens 29 Aug 11 - 05:59 PM
cooperman 30 Aug 11 - 10:14 AM
GUEST,old git 30 Aug 11 - 10:28 AM
skipy 30 Aug 11 - 05:32 PM
GUEST,Rich A 30 Aug 11 - 09:12 PM
Liberty Boy 31 Aug 11 - 02:05 AM
Folkiedave 31 Aug 11 - 03:05 AM
GloriaJ 31 Aug 11 - 04:32 AM
John MacKenzie 31 Aug 11 - 04:56 AM
Marilyn 31 Aug 11 - 06:19 AM
GUEST,Tatterfoal 31 Aug 11 - 11:49 AM
GUEST,Guest 31 Aug 11 - 12:29 PM
John MacKenzie 31 Aug 11 - 03:09 PM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 31 Aug 11 - 08:48 PM
Soldier boy 01 Sep 11 - 10:21 AM
dozy rozy 01 Sep 11 - 01:49 PM
John MacKenzie 01 Sep 11 - 03:49 PM
Paul Davenport 01 Sep 11 - 04:48 PM
GUEST,SteveG 01 Sep 11 - 04:52 PM
GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler 01 Sep 11 - 05:00 PM
GUEST,Cookieless Chris P. 01 Sep 11 - 05:28 PM
Jack Campin 01 Sep 11 - 09:28 PM
Ann N 02 Sep 11 - 02:34 AM
Acorn4 02 Sep 11 - 07:19 AM
Ann N 02 Sep 11 - 07:59 AM
GUEST,Alf 02 Sep 11 - 08:47 AM
Jack Campin 02 Sep 11 - 09:28 AM
Ann N 02 Sep 11 - 10:06 AM
GUEST,Sapper on TIC 02 Sep 11 - 10:08 AM
GUEST,Tatterfoal 02 Sep 11 - 11:29 AM
JP2 02 Sep 11 - 07:26 PM
The Sandman 03 Sep 11 - 08:23 AM
GUEST,Graham 03 Sep 11 - 06:44 PM
GUEST,Tatterfoal 04 Sep 11 - 05:24 AM
Willa 04 Sep 11 - 08:45 AM
GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler 04 Sep 11 - 01:07 PM
sapper82 05 Sep 11 - 01:36 PM
JHW 05 Sep 11 - 02:57 PM
mikesamwild 06 Sep 11 - 07:41 AM
Raggytash 06 Sep 11 - 09:04 AM
GUEST,old git 06 Sep 11 - 10:20 AM
GUEST,old git 06 Sep 11 - 10:22 AM
nutty 06 Sep 11 - 11:25 AM
GUEST,Guest - John Conolly 06 Sep 11 - 12:12 PM
John MacKenzie 06 Sep 11 - 01:02 PM
The Sandman 06 Sep 11 - 01:08 PM
GUEST,CS 07 Sep 11 - 11:14 AM
Dennis the Elder 07 Sep 11 - 11:21 AM
GUEST,CS 08 Sep 11 - 08:05 AM
Jack Campin 10 Sep 11 - 03:10 PM
Ann N 10 Sep 11 - 05:05 PM
bfdk 10 Sep 11 - 05:54 PM
Jack Campin 10 Sep 11 - 06:05 PM
GUEST,eliza c 10 Sep 11 - 06:54 PM
GUEST,Guest 10 Sep 11 - 09:33 PM
GUEST,Dom 11 Sep 11 - 01:41 AM
Ann N 11 Sep 11 - 02:52 AM
GUEST 11 Sep 11 - 03:20 AM
Ann N 11 Sep 11 - 03:49 AM
GUEST,PeterC 11 Sep 11 - 04:21 AM
John MacKenzie 11 Sep 11 - 05:04 AM
GUEST,Tatterfoal 11 Sep 11 - 10:05 AM
John MacKenzie 11 Sep 11 - 10:37 AM
Splott Man 11 Sep 11 - 12:24 PM
Ann N 11 Sep 11 - 12:51 PM
Megan L 11 Sep 11 - 12:57 PM
Ann N 11 Sep 11 - 01:02 PM
GUEST,PeterC 11 Sep 11 - 05:45 PM
Jack Campin 11 Sep 11 - 06:08 PM
Ann N 12 Sep 11 - 03:14 AM
GUEST,eliza c 12 Sep 11 - 04:23 PM
GUEST,Graham O'C 12 Sep 11 - 04:59 PM
dick greenhaus 12 Sep 11 - 06:37 PM
Liberty Boy 12 Sep 11 - 06:53 PM
GUEST,SteveG 12 Sep 11 - 06:53 PM
GUEST,Richard Gardham 13 Sep 11 - 09:28 AM
GUEST,Tatterfoal 13 Sep 11 - 06:32 PM
The Sandman 13 Sep 11 - 07:34 PM
GUEST,Guest 13 Sep 11 - 08:25 PM
The Sandman 14 Sep 11 - 01:28 AM
GUEST,Tatterfoal 14 Sep 11 - 10:06 AM
selby 14 Sep 11 - 02:00 PM
GUEST,Charlie O'Neill 14 Sep 11 - 06:25 PM
GUEST,A N Other 15 Sep 11 - 01:31 AM
GUEST,cujimmy 15 Sep 11 - 05:34 AM
John MacKenzie 15 Sep 11 - 06:05 AM
GUEST,PeterC 15 Sep 11 - 07:45 AM
glueman 15 Sep 11 - 08:12 AM
GUEST,Dom 15 Sep 11 - 09:25 AM
Mrs.Duck 15 Sep 11 - 01:50 PM
GUEST,Graham O'C 15 Sep 11 - 03:37 PM
blindboybutler 15 Sep 11 - 04:01 PM
Herga Kitty 15 Sep 11 - 04:07 PM
Liberty Boy 15 Sep 11 - 08:36 PM
GUEST,Tatterfoal 16 Sep 11 - 05:50 AM
Brian May 16 Sep 11 - 07:44 AM
r.padgett 17 Sep 11 - 04:25 AM
Paul Davenport 17 Sep 11 - 06:08 AM
Diva 17 Sep 11 - 06:25 AM
The Sandman 17 Sep 11 - 07:41 AM
GUEST,Guest 17 Sep 11 - 07:57 PM
GUEST,Frank Lee 17 Sep 11 - 08:48 PM
GUEST 18 Sep 11 - 06:32 AM
GUEST,PeterC 18 Sep 11 - 06:32 AM
Ann N 18 Sep 11 - 12:15 PM
GUEST,PeterC 18 Sep 11 - 01:02 PM
GUEST,Guest 18 Sep 11 - 02:00 PM
GUEST,SteveG 18 Sep 11 - 02:25 PM
The Sandman 18 Sep 11 - 03:41 PM
Folkiedave 18 Sep 11 - 06:37 PM
GUEST,SteveG 19 Sep 11 - 02:24 PM
Les from Hull 19 Sep 11 - 04:19 PM
GUEST,Folkiedave 20 Sep 11 - 03:41 AM
GUEST,Tatterfoal 20 Sep 11 - 12:12 PM
GUEST,SteveG 20 Sep 11 - 12:20 PM
Tyke 20 Sep 11 - 01:33 PM
GUEST,SteveG 20 Sep 11 - 05:42 PM
dick greenhaus 20 Sep 11 - 05:57 PM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 20 Sep 11 - 09:42 PM
Tyke 21 Sep 11 - 01:14 PM
Liberty Boy 22 Sep 11 - 03:24 AM
GUEST 22 Sep 11 - 08:19 AM
GUEST,Kinda Kelly 22 Sep 11 - 08:20 AM
cooperman 22 Sep 11 - 09:19 AM
GUEST,Tatterfoal 22 Sep 11 - 11:03 AM
Mo the caller 22 Sep 11 - 03:12 PM
John MacKenzie 22 Sep 11 - 04:14 PM
Joe Offer 22 Sep 11 - 05:09 PM
Tyke 22 Sep 11 - 08:23 PM
Ann N 23 Sep 11 - 02:48 AM
Tyke 23 Sep 11 - 06:58 AM
Linda Kelly 23 Sep 11 - 03:00 PM
The Sandman 23 Sep 11 - 03:22 PM
Jack Campin 23 Sep 11 - 03:33 PM
The Sandman 23 Sep 11 - 04:10 PM
Jack Campin 23 Sep 11 - 05:16 PM
GUEST,Colin, The Station Inn 24 Sep 11 - 04:01 AM
selby 24 Sep 11 - 05:17 AM
Tyke 24 Sep 11 - 06:51 PM
Joe Nicholson 26 Sep 11 - 12:04 PM
Jack Campin 26 Sep 11 - 12:42 PM
Mo the caller 26 Sep 11 - 12:53 PM
GUEST,Colin, Station Inn 26 Sep 11 - 01:24 PM
Tyke 26 Sep 11 - 02:58 PM
Jack's Rake 27 Sep 11 - 05:34 AM
John MacKenzie 27 Sep 11 - 06:26 AM
Jack's Rake 27 Sep 11 - 07:17 AM
Mo the caller 27 Sep 11 - 09:56 AM
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Subject: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Tatterfoal
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 12:29 PM

The festival this year was great.   Reading some of the comments from fellow mudcatters you would get the impression it was held for singarounds and sessions.   Whilst these are very good they are not the bulk of the festival although they are well supported, the dance scene has well over 300 people regularly attending paying full festival price for the tickets plus all the other concerts and perfomers, this is what Whitby manages to do so well plus great traditions also that go on. Long may it remain the best complete traditional festival in the country satisfying all traditional folky needs whatever your discipline.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 12:59 PM

Hear hear!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Paul Davenport
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 06:50 PM

Thanks Tatterfoal. Curiously, its the biggest storytelling festival in Europe, it is, as you say the biggest complete traditional festival in the UK. It caters more thoroughly for social dance than comparable festivals too. Actually, its Whitby Folk Week, a collection of festivals rather than one festival.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Mo the caller
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 12:47 AM

"....a collection of festivals rather than one festival. "

That's just it. And I go to a different Whitby each year.
This year was the year of the accordion, including the extra workshop thoughtfully arranged but not listed in the programme "running from the Fisherman's to the Spa in 10minutes carrying an accordion".

We started going for the dance (social and ceilidh), each time we go we explore another strand in the rich fabric of 'folk'.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Tatterfoal
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 05:41 AM

I find that whatever I want to "have a go at" there is a welcome for it , this is epitomised in the Spa "not ready for a full session yet" where all ages and abilities are catered for in the most encouraging way.   I even managed to practice my bones without any looks or glares.   How good is that!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 06:18 AM

My bones could do with some exercise too. Whitby's certainly a good place for that.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,oggy man
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 12:17 PM

Good job the festival was good the weather was very very wet.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Joe Nicholson
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 12:29 PM

Four fine days out of seven do not make for a wet festival surely

Joe N


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Surreysinger
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 12:33 PM

I certainly didn't notice a problem of any great proportions until Thursday - in fact it was incredibly warm and sunny at the start of the week!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Jack's Rake
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 03:05 PM

Blimey!

Our perception was that it was the warmest and dryest week (as opposed to festival) in the last eight years.

Funny old world.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: greg stephens
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 05:59 PM

I thought the weather was fine


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: cooperman
Date: 30 Aug 11 - 10:14 AM

I always wonder if Whitby will live up to previous years. Amazingly it does. Brilliant this year, thanks to all the organisers for a great job.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,old git
Date: 30 Aug 11 - 10:28 AM

ditto to most of the above. A great week!
geoff t


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: skipy
Date: 30 Aug 11 - 05:32 PM

This festival has moved! It was lower down the thread list when I first saw it!
Skipy


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Rich A
Date: 30 Aug 11 - 09:12 PM

Great weather this year, only a few patches of refreshing rain.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Liberty Boy
Date: 31 Aug 11 - 02:05 AM

"a few patches of refreshing rain" what about Friday morning!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Folkiedave
Date: 31 Aug 11 - 03:05 AM

Look on the bright side. It saved building an outdoor swimming pool!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GloriaJ
Date: 31 Aug 11 - 04:32 AM

I went swimming in the sea most days - but on friday the sea came to me!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Aug 11 - 04:56 AM

Well I enjoyed my annual stint, stewarding at the Festival Folk Club, in the Conservative Club.
It's agreat venue to be at, as you get a good selection of the bigger guests, all coming to do a short spot.
Almost every year I meet up with an old friend I haven't seen for yonks, and/or failing that I discover a new (to me) artiste that knocks my socks off. This year it was Ray Hearne, what a wonderfully assured performer of his own moving songs. His guitar work is a perfect accompaniment to his telling lyrics.
The old friend this year was a lovely lady called Kathy whom I first met at the Fighting Cocks in Kingston over 20 years ago, and hadn't seen for about 26 years. Unfortunately I was up to my eyes in my duties at the door, and didn't have enough time to catch up with her news. Maybe another time.
Anyway, I shall be back again next year, all things being equal.
Well done to all those involved in running this wonderful festival.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Marilyn
Date: 31 Aug 11 - 06:19 AM

My first time at Whitby and I now understand why my daughter raves about it so much. Absolutely brilliant festival - I didn't know they could be this good. Will be there every year from now on even if it means we have to miss Sidmouth, which I love - but not as much as Whitby!

Weather? I thought we had only one bad day and the rest was dry and even hot and sunny at the beginning of the week; I can't understand anyone complaining about the weather.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Tatterfoal
Date: 31 Aug 11 - 11:49 AM

Sidmouth and Whitby I love em both for differing reasons would not want to miss either.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 31 Aug 11 - 12:29 PM

I have to agree with all positive comments what an excellent week.

But can you help, on the Wednesday evening session in one of the locations on Church Street someone left an item on a table,if you are that person or know the person, then if you can let me know the details of what it is, colour and content etc, then I will get it back to you.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Aug 11 - 03:09 PM

And they contact you ; how?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 31 Aug 11 - 08:48 PM

I always endeavoured to run Whitby as one festival encompassing all aspects of folk.

I'm really pleased the it has now become - according to one Paul Davenport - the biggest storytelling festival in Europe. I was the one who introduced the storytelling element - and one or two other bits.

I would have suggestions for t'committee but from past experience they will not listen - pity really.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Soldier boy
Date: 01 Sep 11 - 10:21 AM

A brilliant festival that just gets better and better. It always amazes me that so much choice is on offer every minute of every day of the festival.

There really is something for everyone so I don't understand it when some folk find something to have a moan about.

And as for the weather being a bit damp on the odd occasion so what. We are used to it aren't we and we are always moaning on and on about it. It's the English way! And if we didn't complain about the weather we'd have a lot less conversation and small talk to talk to strangers and make new friends.

AND the very fact that so many comments on this thread have been about the weather says an awful lot about just how brilliant this festival really is.

Because if the only thing to complain about was the weather then all the organisers should get one huge pat on the back and a big hug of warm grateful thanks (preferably under a big blooming umberella if it's raining!!)

Chris


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: dozy rozy
Date: 01 Sep 11 - 01:49 PM

Well said, soldier boy.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Sep 11 - 03:49 PM

Bad innit Dick, they didn;t book me either. Maybe I should take up singing American Blues?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Paul Davenport
Date: 01 Sep 11 - 04:48 PM

It's completely out of order. Malcolm is as entitled to an opinion as any of you. In fact more so in some respects. The biggest storytelling festival in Europe quote, although I stated it, was on advice taken from those who know. Malcolm also has some justification for his assertions regarding the festival organisers who work very hard but who also have a need to listen to what the punters are saying.
Regarding the blues aspect Dick, I have to say I sat in a wonderful concert where the audience patiently sat through Liz and I, Martin and Iris, Pete Cooper and Peta Webb and then … two thirds of the audience left when the astonishingly competent and virtuosic artists at the top of the bill began singing blues. Whitby is not a popular music festival and, putting on my academic hat, I will tell you, blues is a popular music form which only the folk revival would consider to be a tradition. I'm not saying it's not important, significant etc. but it ain't 'folk' in the sense that Whitby 'Folk' Week seeks to embrace folk. Malcolm's statement stands.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,SteveG
Date: 01 Sep 11 - 04:52 PM

Dick,
Whitby is the wonderful festival it is because it has evolved over a long period and has always been open to new ideas. It has always leaned quite heavily towards 'traditional' and that has been part of its success. Many people have contributed to this over the years and Malcolm was a major cog in all of this. A festival of this size needs a strong single-minded director, and whether you agree with his choices or not he made a lot of people very happy.

Malcolm,
I really must take you to task for not including Mongolian throat music, Faeroese dancing and story-telling in Japanese!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler
Date: 01 Sep 11 - 05:00 PM

Wait for next year's improved model ... . . .


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Cookieless Chris P.
Date: 01 Sep 11 - 05:28 PM

"I am not being rude just telling him to fuck off, in yorkshire thats known as being blunt or to the point. "
Well, in my part of Yorkshire it's very offensive. Try it one Saturday night.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Jack Campin
Date: 01 Sep 11 - 09:28 PM

I didn't see anybody walking out of anything, not even in the music hall concert (surely music hall is as much popular music as blues is - I'm quite happy to listen to either, at Whitby or elsewhere). I've no idea what the headline act being complained about was (I didn't think there *were* any headline acts in the Whitby concerts - no one act hogged the show in anything I went to).

I don't understand all this aggro and I don't particularly WANT to understand it. Just give it up, please. The organizers deserve a holiday.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Ann N
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 02:34 AM

The only times I saw anyone leaving venues early was when they were attempting the 'across Whitby sprint' to get to other concerts/workshops in time for the start :)

Ann


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Acorn4
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 07:19 AM

Are we going to thread-drift into the Duckworth-Lewis method?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Ann N
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 07:59 AM

..... anyway, back to the subject :)

It was a great Folk Week, everyone involved, artists, morris sides, organisers and stewards worked their socks off, the sessions were superb and I'm looking forward to next year's event :D


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Alf
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 08:47 AM

We had a lovely week listening to singers and musicians :-)         After reading Good Soldier Schweik's vulgar tirade we'll be avoiding his performances and heading for anywhere we can hear Ann N who plays cracking tunes, doesn't swear and is better than some performers we've paid to see   Alf & Mrs Alf   (recovering from a busy Whitby Folk week)


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Jack Campin
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 09:28 AM

Agreed. The only problem I had with the Euro session was that Ann was only there for half of it.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Ann N
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 10:06 AM

* I blush * :)                                                            

Thanks Alf, Gwen and Jack for the compliments ..... my next 'official performance' will be down 'the Bay' for Victorian weekend where in exchange for the exorbitant fee of a steaming hot mug of tea I will happily play for as long as you care to listen :D


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Sapper on TIC
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 10:08 AM

Well, for my 1st time at Whitby I really enjoyed myself, desite the rain on Friday. Will be back next year.

Photos I took of sessions at the Board, Black Horse & Elsinore ought to find their way onto my Flickr pages eventually.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Tatterfoal
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 11:29 AM

One of my highlights was seeing Earlsdon Morris dance all the way from the beach up the steps and slope to the whalebones at Cooks monument.    Admittedly they couldn't talk after this but they managed to recoup and perform their spot.   They deserve a medal of some sorts for carrying on the barmy aspect of morris well done Earlsdon!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: JP2
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 07:26 PM

Thanks for that Tatterfoal.
I think you'll find we had processed from the Scoresby Monument and my reason for being unable to talk is that I'm sixty four and was knackered!!!!!!!!
I am really glad you enjoyed the spectacle 'cos the one thing Earlsdon enjoy is processing.
It was Earlsdon's first appearance at Folk Week and speaking as one who used to attend in the Graham Binless days I certainly hope it won't be our last.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Sep 11 - 08:23 AM

Malcolm Storey decided to quit as Festival director.
A new committee are running the festival now, they should be allowed to get on with their own decision making.
If they want to ask Malcolms or any other previous festival directors advice on any matter, they know where to ask.
But it should be up to the present committee to decide that one for themselves.
What is not needed is any undermining of the present committee by any previous organisers, I am not saying that has happened as yet, but it is something that should not be allowed to happen.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Graham
Date: 03 Sep 11 - 06:44 PM

I thought this was amazing in The Elsimor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRIMgLtLKSM


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Tatterfoal
Date: 04 Sep 11 - 05:24 AM

I agree always good to see rapper in it's truest setting.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Willa
Date: 04 Sep 11 - 08:45 AM

Saw them in the Football Club at Peta's 'birthday bash'; her little dog even joined in. Great stuff!!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler
Date: 04 Sep 11 - 01:07 PM

I must admit to walking out of the Music Hall night, but it was either that or stop breathing - the concert was great, especially with the Celebrated Mr Handle.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: sapper82
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 01:36 PM

I've finally got round to putting my Whitby piccies on Flickr.
For convenience, I've got them in 4 sets;

session in the Board Inn


Session in the Elsinore

Black Horse Sessions

Black Horse Sessions Part 2


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: JHW
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 02:57 PM

Thoroughly enjoyed the two sessions I made it to at the Station.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: mikesamwild
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 07:41 AM

Great as ever. Thanks to all the organisers and performers and audiences. I know it gained some new followers from comments in pub sessions and on the streets, which is where most holidaymakers and locals come across it. There were some locals looking forward to reclaimingtheir local pubs but thety were ostly very tolerant and welcoming.

Interesting in The Ship on Friday night how the Lifeboat lads reclaimed the pub 'OK Folk Week over , back on your heads ' moment, and quite rightly!

Whitby welcomes all sorts thank goodness.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Raggytash
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 09:04 AM

There is a small minority of locals who do not welcome folkies, nor do they welcome anyone who is not born and bred "Whitby" and some of them they don't like very much either, I think even JC would get a hard time from some if he decided to put in an appearance


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,old git
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 10:20 AM

I thought John Connoly always went down well,Raggy!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,old git
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 10:22 AM

Conolly!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: nutty
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 11:25 AM

"I think even JC would get a hard time from some if he decided to put in an appearance"

They would certainly be upset by what he could do with a few fishes.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Guest - John Conolly
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 12:12 PM

. . . (weepy nostalgic sigh) - So glad to know Whitby fans haven't forgotten me. . . (and I don't care how you spell me as long as I get a mention). . .


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 01:02 PM

Too much competition on the fish supply front at Whitby, Nutty.
Then there's all those loafers too!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 01:08 PM

never mind JC he is only treading water,Mahomet is also due an appearance.
Hinduism with its spiritual laws,I find the most interesting.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 07 Sep 11 - 11:14 AM

We have a cottage available for nect years Folk Week in the town centre just off Church Street which can sleep 4 people. For more info please email me station1nn@btconnect.com. Cheers, Col


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 07 Sep 11 - 11:21 AM

Could you confirm please, Is that station inn or station 1nn?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 08 Sep 11 - 08:05 AM

It is the number 1 yes. station1nn@btconnect.com Cheers


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Jack Campin
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 03:10 PM

Videos shot by a friend of mine:

Euro session, Resolution (I am not the guy with the sax)

Elsinore session (very short but better)


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Ann N
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 05:05 PM

There are a few familiar faces on those clips :)

.... who was the guy with the sax ?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: bfdk
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 05:54 PM

Some videos from the ceilidhs and morris are up now. More will go up as I get them processed.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Jack Campin
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 06:05 PM

who was the guy with the sax ?

... and how can we thank the nice men in white coats who let him out to play with us each afternoon?

I had considered bringing my own sax (a C melody which can go MUCH louder than that) but don't generally go in for decibel arms races. Though for this eventuality maybe I ought to just learn the bombarde.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,eliza c
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 06:54 PM

We had a rest from the ceilidh this year. But two strong contenders for next-James Bond or Disney? All good tunes, and fancy dress options of course...
xe


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 09:33 PM

The fancy dress seemed to go OK without the expense of a theme or extra band!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Dom
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 01:41 AM

re: man with the sax,why reference to 'men in white coats'? I think he sounds great.If he lives local to me I would like to offer him a place in a band.who is he then?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Ann N
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 02:52 AM

:) the man with the sax was a very 'expert' player but rather loud, volume control always at maximum, which made it difficult to hear the quieter instruments :(


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 03:20 AM

There was a theme to the Hawaiian night. The clue is in the title.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Ann N
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 03:49 AM

James Bond for next year please :) Men in evening suits and bow ties with the ladies in posh frocks ....... and the immaculately turned out villains with assorted scars/cats etc.    :D


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,PeterC
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 04:21 AM


Men in evening suits and bow ties with the ladies in posh frocks

IF my DJ still fits that sounds like a great idea. If it doesn't then its rubbish!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 05:04 AM

I find disc jockeys expand with age!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Tatterfoal
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 10:05 AM

James Bond DJ,s a must though it may get a bit hot for me how about gold ladies in bikini,s for the women.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 10:37 AM

Would that not make you even hotter?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Splott Man
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 12:24 PM

I've always felt that Madness's songs would be good for a ceilidh. How about a 2-tone night?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Ann N
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 12:51 PM

"how about gold ladies in bikini,s for the women."

...... not with my shape dear, that would frighten the horses :D ... however the men could turn up in those rather fetching swimming shorts as worn by Daniel Craig ;)


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Megan L
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 12:57 PM

Oh please Ann considering the average male age here that is not a pleasant thought *shudders* lass its enough tae gie ye nightmares


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Ann N
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 01:02 PM

... but they'd be dressed for the weather if there was a repeat of this year's rain on the Friday :D


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,PeterC
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 05:45 PM


"how about gold ladies in bikini,s for the women."

...... not with my shape dear, that would frighten the horses :D ... however the men could turn up in those rather fetching swimming shorts as worn by Daniel Craig ;)

Not with my shape either - I'll stick the the tux.

A pirahna pool might make the caller's job a little easier. Just press a button and dispose of any sets that fluff the walk through.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 06:08 PM

the men could turn up in those rather fetching swimming shorts as worn by Daniel Craig ;)

Why not go the whole hog with a Borat theme?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Ann N
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 03:14 AM

"Why not go the whole hog with a Borat theme?"

Aaaargh No!! That would frighten the horses (and everyone else) :D


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,eliza c
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 04:23 PM

Green Borat cozzies...eek!
xe


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Graham O'C
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 04:59 PM

I realise that I have joined this thread rather late, but would like to make a response to some of earlier discussion.

I had been a regular fan and visitor to Whitby FF for about 15 years. I was flattered to be regularly booked at the festival under one guise or another so this is from a performers' viewpoint. The unique quality of the festival which Malcolm took so much time to promote and protect was that all the artists who performed, whatever their musical genre, all got on with each other, were willing to work hard for the festival and enjoyed each other's company. It was a wonderful example of 'the sum is greater than all the parts'. Malcolm had a gift for bringing together performers of all backgrounds who 'as a whole' delivered a wonderful festival ... not only for the ticket holders and supporters, but also for the artists themselves. Thank you Malc.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 06:37 PM

Amen!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Liberty Boy
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 06:53 PM

Hear Hear!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,SteveG
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 06:53 PM

Both of my sons now in their thirties were brought up with Whitby Festival as one of their annual holidays and though I wouldn't describe them as hard and fast folkies (most of the time they were into heavy metal)they thoroughly entered into the spirit of the festival, such that even though they now live in London with high-power jobs it takes a great deal to cause them to miss their annual pilgrimage. Okay a lot of this is to do with Whitby itself which is a wonderful place to be, and part of it was their involvement in the fringe activities, but they also have totally fond memories of Malcolm, and the festival wouldn't have been anywhere as good without his stewardship.

This doesn't take anything away from the team he had working for him, and indeed the current team who are doing their best to maintain a similar ethos.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Richard Gardham
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 09:28 AM

>>but they also have totally fond memories of Malcolm<<

Sorry dad, but my main memories of Malcolm are of him swearing at me during the cricket matches. I wouldn't mind, but I was playing alongside him for Yorkshire at the time.

But to be serious (just to stress: the above isn't serious. I genuinely don't remember anything but good-natured banter during the highly enjoyable cricket matches in the decade or so I played in them. I do remember, however, John O'Hagan once catching me after he'd strolled onto the pitch for a spot of fielding while out walking his dog. Oh the shame...), Whitby Folk Festival has always been and remains about as enjoyable week as you can spend in a folk setting in my opinion. And this is down to the way that Malcolm and others built up the festival, and subsequent organisers have thankfully carried it on (though I do miss the Bop Till You Drops. And Roy Atkinson's wonderfully bonkers fringe competition. And the Salami Brothers. And... ah, you get the idea). Being a 14-year-old in a rough Hull senior school explaining to your friends why you were going to a folk festival for a week instead of joining them in the rush to get to Torremolinos or Benidorm was never easy but always well worth it, as Whitby was, without fail, special. Malcolm is the chief reason for that and will always have my eternal thanks. Though I'd never tell him to his face. Obviously.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Tatterfoal
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 06:32 PM

Could not agree with the sentiments expressed in the above , although I am an old folkie explaining to friends you had a great holiday dashing about in Whitby to one event and the other staying up till 3am after late night extras is a mystery to most of my contempories on the golf course.   But I would not swap Whitby for any of the "fashionble " hot resorts it pales into insignificance with meeting up with old friends and being just another folkie at Whitby, happy days long may it thrive.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 07:34 PM

None of the above alters the fact that the present committee knows perfectly well where Malcolm is if they want to ask his opinion.
Neither did I ever say that Malcolm had done a bad job.

I have had at least Three bad experiences with Malcolm, but I have never said that he did not run a well organised festival.
Every other festival I have played in England,Chippenham ,Sidmouth, Warwick, Tenterden,Redcar,Saltburn,Broadstairs, Towersey,FourFools, Lancaster,Fylde,I have been treated well by the organisers.
Yes he organised the festival well, but I am not shedding Crocodile tears
I am pleased that the festival is continuing to make Whitby a success,and that the present committee are doing an excellent job of running the festival,long may that continue.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 08:25 PM

Tatterfoal

Did you miss the word "more" out after the first three words of your posting?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: The Sandman
Date: 14 Sep 11 - 01:28 AM

Steve Gardham .
Back in the late 1970s,before Malcolm was running the festival, I along with a number of other singers, who included The Wilson Family,John Knight, Anne Gregson,Chris Timson,Pete Stephenson, decided to start the singing session in the pub then known as The Cutty Sark, this very successful session continued for many years.
We started this session originally as a fringe event, It was so popular it became part of the Official Whitby programme.
I do not need you to tell me about what makes Whitby the festival it is, as I was one of the people that was instrumental in starting that singaround and have contributed to this festival a fair bit over the years.
Richard Gardham, your cricketing experience was quite different from mine,Malcolm shouted right across the cricket pitch, it was not friendly sledging, but unpleasant abuse [after he had caught and bowled me], it was unnecessary, aggressive and extremely rude, and not the sort of behaviour,I expect from anyone least of all a Folk Festival Organiser, It typified the disrespect,lack of consideration bad manners and boorish behaviour,,that I experienced on 2 other occasions.
I must have done at least fifteen to twenty other festivals over the years,and by contrast every other organiser treated me as they would have expected to be treated themselves, with courtesy and good manners.
Yes,the festival was efficently organised, and yes he did a good job keeping it going,now there is a new Committee they are also doing a good job they need to get on with the organisation in their own way.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Tatterfoal
Date: 14 Sep 11 - 10:06 AM

Yes I did miss out more, well spotted! Must learn to grandma check my entries.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: selby
Date: 14 Sep 11 - 02:00 PM

I like Whitby and I like Malcolm and I like anybody that in my opinion is stupid enough to run a folk festival.
Keith


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Charlie O'Neill
Date: 14 Sep 11 - 06:25 PM

Bring back the fringe events that roy atkinson organised.have heard such stories and memories of those times.I am sure people would be up for it


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,A N Other
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 01:31 AM

I too have enjoyed WFF for many years as a paying attendee and a a musician, in various guises - and at many other festivals.
To a non performer, this may seem picky( but it is not). In the theatre, there was not even one steward to look after back stage and given that it was so hot, there was not even any bottled water provided for artists and more so, there was initial resistance from stewards to provide any. Now we are not talking prima donnas here - but a little attention to providing for artists would go a long way. Many other festivals provide so much more for artists - I do not crave that but just expecting water is not asking too much, surely - would organisers like to comment?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,cujimmy
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 05:34 AM

Should these questions regarding the organising og WFF be discussed in meetings with the people who organise the festival rather than on Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 06:05 AM

There ia a FB site. You can post suggestions there, and I believe you can also ask for a feedback form.

Evian for me please, and a bowl of Smarties with all the yellow ones removed!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,PeterC
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 07:45 AM



Should these questions regarding the organising og WFF be discussed in meetings with the people who organise the festival rather than on Mudcat.

You really haven't got the point of Mudcat have you?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: glueman
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 08:12 AM

Listening to Jim Eldon busking near the bridge was a treat.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Dom
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:25 AM

Yeah, I saw Jim busking there too with his friend clarence...


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 01:50 PM

I'll have your yellow ones. I like the idea of Disney - fancy myself as Daisy.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Graham O'C
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 03:37 PM

Mmm A mixed review of Mr Storey's character it seems. I for one am not making any criticisms of the current organising body of WFF .. I may want a booking again sometime. All I, and many others are saying is that underneath that hard and brutal exterior lies a heart of gold. I too remember being terrified of him the first time I presented myself to him for the weeks fee ... but so much went on behind the scenes ... he really looked after the 'old boys' who came to entertain us all ... like Ernest Dyson, The Shepherds, Packie Manus, Fred Jordan etc etc etc they basically had the freedom of Whitby during their stay. Also he bent over backwards to look after others who needed taxis etc for getting around Whitby and R H Bay. I too played cricket for the 'other side' and only remember great laughs. As with everything a viewpoint is very much governed by how wide open one's eyes are perhaps ...


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: blindboybutler
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 04:01 PM

Been trying to get my band on here for a few years.

Maybe nexy year.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 04:07 PM

One of my magic moments at Whitby this year was when Derek Schofield was supposed to be interviewing Archie Fisher on Sunday morning, but Archie was late because his lift hadn't turned up. Derek started to interview Malcolm instead, and we were just hearing how Malcolm had got Johnny Handle booked in Australia when Archie turned up (in the Con club, not in Australia).

Kitty

PS the interview with Archie, after he'd arrived, was a major highlight too!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Liberty Boy
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 08:36 PM

Just goes to show what a treat Folk Week is. Always the unexpected!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Tatterfoal
Date: 16 Sep 11 - 05:50 AM

Highlight for me was the late night extra Young Un's , 422, and the Wilsons what a concert spoilt only by the noise at the bar from drinkers not concert goers wish we could do something about that.   Stewards constantly appealing for quiet but were ignored.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Brian May
Date: 16 Sep 11 - 07:44 AM

Question to Mr John (Conolly)

Are you singing "Harry Tate's Navy" yet? You mentioned you might when we spoke at Faldingworth.

Bring a tear to Bill's eye that will . . .

Best regards.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: r.padgett
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 04:25 AM

Yes to add to John MacKenzies post there is a FB Whitby feedback site 2011

Clearly need more stewards from the postings here, I can be quoted as saying that Wff week last year was a learning year where ppl are now realising Malcolm isnt in charge any more and individuals need to stick their heads above the wall (cant spell parapet) and take responsibility

Re booking bands be assured that Wff is not cash rich and supporters are mainly traditionalists (sorry!) who love the craic. I am also aware of that not everyone likes each other. I love 'em all musicians singers storytellers dancers of all ilks ~ but I get annoyed with some ppl who can be bloody snobs!

Ray (sorry bout the b** word)


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Paul Davenport
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 06:08 AM

Ray's right. We need more stewards. The new website is up and running so you can get details there.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Diva
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 06:25 AM

Well I had a brilliant time, catching up with pals, going to concerts, listening to and singing ballads ;late night singing and early morning interviews! Joe Atkin trying to translate from Scots into English was a marvel. Loads of highlights. Well done to everyone who works so hard to get it up and running.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 07:41 AM

and long may the festival continue and thrive.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 07:57 PM

The highest stewards number I saw was just short of 150 - for 600 events over 7 days - just how much work do they do?

Would suggest they are not well organised.

The steward IN CHARGE of stewarding the Conservative Club had never done any stewarding previously - not a very bright appointment. He had also had no training or advice with regard to door etiquette.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Frank Lee
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 08:48 PM

I've heard there was a problem, particularly this year, with stewards simply not turning up to do their allocated jobs. The organisers are aware of this and will, I presume, take appropriate measures next year.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Sep 11 - 06:32 AM


I've heard there was a problem, particularly this year, with stewards simply not turning up to do their allocated jobs.


No shows are a problem for all festival organisers. Trouble is that there are always a handful of stewarding candidates who are just looking for a free ticket and don't expect to do any serious work in return. One festival organiser told me of people expecting free admission to a weekend festival in return for doing 30 minutes on the door.

Ideally stewarding is something that you do because you enjoy being involved not simply as the price of a free ticket.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,PeterC
Date: 18 Sep 11 - 06:32 AM

Oops, that was me. Is it too much to ask for the "From" field to be mandatory?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Ann N
Date: 18 Sep 11 - 12:15 PM

quote ..//The steward IN CHARGE of stewarding the Conservative Club had never done any stewarding previously - not a very bright appointment. He had also had no training or advice with regard to door etiquette.//


The stewards on duty for the events I went to at the Conservative Club were lovely :) They were friendly, polite and very helpful while being firm about making sure the room was clear from one event before counting people in for the next :D


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,PeterC
Date: 18 Sep 11 - 01:02 PM


The steward IN CHARGE of stewarding the Conservative Club ...


The stewards on duty for the events I went to at the Conservative Club were lovely :)

"Guest" was explicitly referring to a single person who he believed (accurately or not) to be the team leader for the venue not the vartious stewards on individual events. Certainly I would expect a venue team leader to be experienced in managing front of house.

Speaking as a customer I have never had any reason to complain about attitude or behaviour of an individual steward. The camp site team in fact were worthy of special praise this year as they seemed to be anticipating issues rather than reacting to them.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 18 Sep 11 - 02:00 PM

I was not critisising the person in question - in fact when it was quietly pointed out to them what they had been doing to cause offence to some people the steward concerned thanked the person giving the advice.

The information regarding the steward's experience was also freely given.

I appreciate that most of what is placed on mudcat will not reach the people concerned except through Paul Davenport who seems to be the festival's unofficial champion.

I was merely maikng the point that in my opinion the stewarding problem is not one of numbers but organisation and training.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,SteveG
Date: 18 Sep 11 - 02:25 PM

Stewarding at a large festival like this is always going to present problems for the organisers. These people are essentially volunteers no matter what their motives are. Yes they are paid with a free ticket but they are still initially volunteers. If they were to be paid volunteers like at some more upmarket festivals the price of tickets would have to increase dramatically and this would price the typical Whitby punter out of the market. Many of the Whitby contributors (workshops/MCs/dancers etc.) only get free tickets, at best accommodation; it's that type of festival, not like say Cambridge dominated by big names and concerts. This is a major part of Whitby's success and long may it be so, so on that one I agree with you, Dick.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Sep 11 - 03:41 PM

In the seventies and eighties, the majority of folk festivals relied upon volunteer stewards and the system worked well, one of the ingredients that make the volunteer system work well,is treating the volunteers with courtesy and respect, another is being able to delegate and explain clearly what stewards are expected and not expected to do.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Folkiedave
Date: 18 Sep 11 - 06:37 PM

I second what was said about the campsite - some cracking staff.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,SteveG
Date: 19 Sep 11 - 02:24 PM

It's many years since I had to use a campsite at Whitby but I know several of the stewards and those in charge and they deserve medals.

I do remember back in the early days on the cliff top on the road past the abbey, and that was literally just a field, no stewards, no facilities.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Les from Hull
Date: 19 Sep 11 - 04:19 PM

In the venues we visited we found the stewarding extremely competent.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Folkiedave
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 03:41 AM

I didn't make it clear - I was referring to the Rugby Club site.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Tatterfoal
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 12:12 PM

The stewarding in the Pavilion was first class, take my hat off to any who want to steward.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,SteveG
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 12:20 PM

I didn't have a season ticket this year so I just went to the workshops at the new venue at the Colosseum and the stewards there were very helpful along with the other workers there.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Tyke
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 01:33 PM

Why not take a second or two to remember Colin K. RIP


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,SteveG
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 05:42 PM

Tyke,
We might well do that if we knew who he was and could remember.

Perhaps you'll tell us a little more.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 05:57 PM

Colin was the first (among many) one encountered at Metropole events.(among other events and festivals.Always warm, always friendly, always helpful.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 09:42 PM

Colin Kemp was the steward mentioned. Colin was a true gentleman, a friend and supporter of the festival, the artistes, the venues, the paying customers, his fellow stewards and a great enthusiast for all things folk.

He left us far too early in life and left behind a vacuum that many thought could not be filled. However such was his influence that a lot of what still happens at the Metropole during Whitby Folk Week still bears his stamp.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Tyke
Date: 21 Sep 11 - 01:14 PM

Thanks Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Liberty Boy
Date: 22 Sep 11 - 03:24 AM

Colin was great guy and is still sadly missed!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Sep 11 - 08:19 AM

There has been a lot of criticisms of stewards, and some though not all has been valid. Since it is easier to change things from within, I hope some of the critics will be joining the stewards next year and instigate some changes for the better.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Kinda Kelly
Date: 22 Sep 11 - 08:20 AM

Sorry last guest was me-incompetent as ever!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: cooperman
Date: 22 Sep 11 - 09:19 AM

Constructive minor criticisms are ok but let's not lose sight of the bigger picture - it is a MAGNIFICENT festival!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Tatterfoal
Date: 22 Sep 11 - 11:03 AM

Taking the point about money concerns I wonder how many of the fringe events contribute nothing to the festival.   I know I attended at least 6 fringe events where there was no collecting tin at all, although I am a full paying festival goer I would still expect to contribute. Maybe it would be an idea to put collecting tins on the bar of the Fleece, Elsinor, Black Horse etc. for   contibutions from people some just day trippers who come in to enjoy the atmosphere.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Mo the caller
Date: 22 Sep 11 - 03:12 PM

In Malcolm's day the collecters came round to all the sessions. but I haven't seen many/any? the last 2 years.
If there aren't enough stewards could the leaders be asked to pass a tin round?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Sep 11 - 04:14 PM

We did have a shortage of stewards this year.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Sep 11 - 05:09 PM

So, Kinda Kelly, you're not the real Kelly, just Kinda a Kelly?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Tyke
Date: 22 Sep 11 - 08:23 PM

I got the Job of helping to get the coins down to the Bank a few times. The Banks did not like taking all that small change and where not happy to do it. I don't know if that attitude remains the same today as the copper content of the older coins is worth more than the face value of the coins themselves. Farewell Britania! Hello funny money and how long will it be before they Drill a large hole in these new coins. Talk about Mint! (Oh for those across the pond we have some mints in the UK (sweets) called Polo's the Mint with the hole!)


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Ann N
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 02:48 AM

..In Malcolm's day the collectors came round to all the sessions. but I haven't seen many/any? the last 2 years...

:) There was at least one collector trying their best this year. A lady who came up to our group and enquired politely if there was an official collector with us. There wasn't so, again politely, she asked if it was OK to join us and spent the rest of the afternoon collecting :)


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Tyke
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 06:58 AM

Collecting from all the session I would think would be problomatic. Although some of the Fringe Session would be ok Sessions that where collecting for the Lifeboats would not. Trying to get money out of some none Folkies strugling to have a quiet pint in Folk Week and some of suporters of Whitby Regatter I would say was a problem. Not all are found of Folk Week that said the the Landlords of the Station have just bought a brand new Car and they are away on Holiday for Three Weeks. Humphrey don't need your money if he wasn't so stuborn he would probabley sell up and live like a Lord. Still it leaves two empty pubs for the locals in Folk Week.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 03:00 PM

I am thinking of changing my name to Kinda Kelly-its quite benevolent. There was a substantial amount of monies collected over the festival week - there was even a prize given for the best collector!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: The Sandman
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 03:22 PM

It appears that the statement there were not many/ any collectors is incorrect.
its possible that did not see any, were, like Nelson looking the wrong way, or in need of an eye test or a visit to spec savers, or just in the wrong place at the wrong time


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Jack Campin
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 03:33 PM

There seem to have been a heck of a lot of wrong places and wrong times, then. I think I saw two collectors for the lifeboats all week and none for the Folk Week.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: The Sandman
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 04:10 PM

Jack,maybe you were on your Jack Jones


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Jack Campin
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 05:16 PM

I wonder whether it might be an idea to recruit collectors using the same sort of incentives as stewards? Take a tin round a few session venues and get a free ticket for a concert? This might suit some of the people who want to spend most but not all of their time on the session fringe. (Yes, you'd need to encourage them to actually do the collecting and not goof off - not quite sure how, but there must be some way).


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Colin, The Station Inn
Date: 24 Sep 11 - 04:01 AM

It was not a brand new car, and we are only going on holiday for 2 weeks not 3 - like we do every year in September once the season has slowed down. What has that got to do with anything?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: selby
Date: 24 Sep 11 - 05:17 AM

Hopefully next years Whitby should be really happy as a lot of people have managed to get a fair bit of acid off their chests. Constructive criticism should be always encouraged and listened to but settling scores and incorrect assumptions does nothing but harm on a thread en titled Whitby Folk Festival. I believe there is a dividing line albeit small between the festival and the fringe, as a regular at Whitby it has always been the good fortune of the Station and its predecessors to be a fringe venue IMHO what happens at any local pubs should not be discussed in the same thread. There is a Festival where you pay to attend things organised by a hardworking committee they organise workshops encourage and develop all things folk related and are available at all times to listen and more importantly named. Then there is a fringe that flourishes because of the festival where people give there expertise try new material try performing for the first time and are encouraged by like minded people . Whitby from what I have seen has one of the largest fringe festivals of any festivals.
Support for both is what is required not petty sniping.
Keith.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Tyke
Date: 24 Sep 11 - 06:51 PM

Nothing Colin! Just trying to encourage some more hardworking Landlords to be more like you and welcome the Folkies and Live Music. Anyone who visited The Station, anytime not just in folk week, can see just how hard you work and your team work. Featured in the 2012 Good Beer Guide again this year is The Station Inn I hasten to point out. Why not take a look at The Station Inn New Website


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Joe Nicholson
Date: 26 Sep 11 - 12:04 PM

Mo and I always collect a box from the office for our sessions at The Rifle Club no problem every little helps

Joe Nicholson


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Jack Campin
Date: 26 Sep 11 - 12:42 PM

Mo and I always collect a box from the office for our sessions at The Rifle Club

I hadn't thought of that, and it seems like a heck of a lot of other people at the sessions hadn't thought of it either. Maybe there could be a note in the programme or the Wailer saying that session anchors or regulars might do that? (Though the only session I was at for most of the time it ran was the Euro one, which didn't have much of a transient audience to tap into).


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Mo the caller
Date: 26 Sep 11 - 12:53 PM

"(Though the only session I was at for most of the time it ran was the Euro one, which didn't have much of a transient audience to tap into). "
Yes, but if there were non-ticket holders playing then they could contribute.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Colin, Station Inn
Date: 26 Sep 11 - 01:24 PM

Coolio! Understood, we appreciate all of our customers and try our best to accommodate everyone from Folk to Goth to Ladies Darts to Hen Parties etc etc. Cheers for plugging the new website, you forgot to mention local Camra Pub of the Year 2011 though ;) Col x


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Tyke
Date: 26 Sep 11 - 02:58 PM

Sorry Colin I thought I covered that with the "again" "Featured in the 2012 Good Beer Guide again this year is The Station Inn I hasten to point out."

Let face it The Station has made the Good Beer Guide lot's of times well done Andrew and Colin. I hope you are having a good time in Cyprus and all is peacefull. Take care with the Sun you need to be nice and Pale for Goth Week!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Jack's Rake
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 05:34 AM

Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Mo the caller - PM
Date: 26 Sep 11 - 12:53 PM

"'(Though the only session I was at for most of the time it ran was the Euro one, which didn't have much of a transient audience to tap into). '
Yes, but if there were non-ticket holders playing then they could contribute."

Doesn't anyone think it would be more appropriate to ask for a contribution from the pub?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 06:26 AM

They contribute by allowing their premises to be used, surely!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Jack's Rake
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 07:17 AM

Hiya John.

Yeah, it dawned on me after I posted the above that the Euro session was, I think, an official programmed session and that I don't know what time it took place; all off which led to a rather crappy attempt at making my point.

I was, obviously (though, sadly, only to myself!), referring more to the "fringe" sessions. Somebody mentioned, earlier, that there should be collections at these sessions and I was wondering if anyone thought it would more appropriate to ask for a donation from the pub than the participants at these.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: Mo the caller
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 09:56 AM

Euro was semi-fringe. Not on the published programme, but advertised in the Wailer.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Eccoscouse
Date: 28 Sep 11 - 06:14 PM

"who was the guy with the sax ?

... and how can we thank the nice men in white coats who let him out to play with us each afternoon?"

@ Jack Campin: Absolutely uncalled for. If anybody seriously wants to know who "the man with the sax" is, I'll be happy to let them know - I don't want to waste time talking to nasty, charmless characters like you.


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