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Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards

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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 06:17 PM

WHO MY GOD WHAT IS THE PROBLUM ABOUT THE DECK OF CARDS??? .I HAVE THE SONG BY TEX RETTER MY UNCAL PLAYED IT WHEN I WAS AYOUNG GIRL I SEE NOTHING WORRING WITH IT .IF ANY ONE WAS AT WAR AND SOME ONE SHOTING AT THEM AND WANTED TO PRAY AND ALL THAY HADE WAS A DECK OF CARDS THAY WOULD USE .I HEVE THE SONG .2 VERSNS I WAS GOING TO WRITE THEM DOWN BUT IT IS SO LONG .I PUT IT IN MY LAP TOP SO I CAN RREMEMBER MY UNCLE WHO ALMOST DIED FIGHTING FOR OUR FREEDOM. I'M SURE IF HE HAD A DECK OF CARDS .THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HIS BIBLE.I REALY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY EVERY ONE IS MAKING SUCH A STINK ABOUT THE DECK OF CARDS?????I THINK IF ANY ONE REALY TOOK A LOOK AT THE CARDS AND THE BIBLE. THE ACE ,THE KING,QUEEN,JACK,10,AND SETTRE THER ARE 365SPOTS THE NUMBER OF DAYS IN A YEAR,52 CARDS THE NUMBER OF WEEKS 4 SUITS THE NUMBER OF WEEKS IN A MONTH AND IT GOE;S ON THINK AND LOOK AT THE CARDS IT WILL ADE UP HI MY NAME IS JEAN ON'T ( GENE)

EVERY TIME I WRITE SOMETHING I SEEM TO LOST IT .I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE STINK IS ABOUT THE SONG THE DECK OF CARDS .IF YOU PAIDE ATTENTION TO THE WORDS OF THE SONG YOU MIGHT NOT LOOK AT A DECK OF CARDS THE SAME WAY AGAIN. I HAVE BOTH WAYS TEX RETTER SINGS THIS SONG.YES PHIL HARRES ALSO SINGS IT. I HAVE IT BY TEX RETTER. I PUT IT IN MY LP TOP SO I WOUN'T LOSE IT. I WAS GOING TO WRITE IT OUT BUT IT'S TO LONG. YOUR ALL MAKING A JOKE OUT OF IT BUT ONE MANS BIBLE IS ANOTHER MANS DECK OF CARDS.   MY NAME IS JEAN NOT ( GENE) I LIVE FAR AWAY I STOP IN FROM TIME TO TIME LEAVE ME A MESSAGE I WILL TRY TO ANSER


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 08 Dec 10 - 11:00 AM

T. Texas Tyler is generally credited with the song as we of a certain age know it. He, Ritter and Phil Harris each recorded it in 1948,but   I could not find which was first. Martindale's recording is from a decade later.

As noted by someone above, there are are some who trace the song in some form back to the 19th century which may have inspired Tyler.


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: GUEST,zalby57
Date: 08 Dec 10 - 10:41 AM

Wink Martindale was the "soldier"


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: GUEST,Desi C
Date: 08 Dec 10 - 08:26 AM

Tex Ritter may have first recorded it but it was a huge hit for a singer with the striking name of Wink Martindale, you'll find his recording on You Tube


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Dec 10 - 11:40 AM

Hello! I am the Dick of cards! What is zis bauble story?
    Poster is Steve Gardham, who forgot his cookie...


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 05:36 PM

Les Barker - when I see the Ace I think of what they call frozen water in Cheltenham..........
    Poster is folkiedave, missing a cookie...


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 05:32 PM

MASSAGE I HAVE THE SONG THE DECK OF CARDS .I WILL FIND IT AND WILL TRY TO SEND IT TO YOU. IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITES SONGS MY UNCEL PLAYED IT FOR MY FAMILY
    Poster is unknown...


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 03:31 AM

Quite right, Jim; and I forgot too that quantum mechanics would require a minimum discreet difference in possible times. This takes us outside the limits of my otherwise phenomenal knowledge of physics, so the floor is open to the rest of you guys.

Steve


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 12:49 PM

Steve Parkes: The length of a year - whether sidereal or solar (or more properly "tropical") - is a quantity that can only be determined experimentally; therefore there is no justification for calling it either rational or irrational. Unlike pi, e, and the square root of 2, you can't calculate it from a formula.

See here.


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 04:44 AM

To add my bit it was also recoreded by Max Bygraves in the UK - along with his other classic, I'm a blue toothbrush, you're a pink toothbrush. I am dis-inclined to comment on either for fear of having hoards of mad Max Bygraves fans howling for my blood.....

My favourite version is by the Kippers. Contains the classic line "Then one card got out his privates" :-)

D the G


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 03:41 AM

Ah, Penny - you're coming dangerously close to one of the fundamentals of Number Theory! 365.1/4 belongs to "Q", the set of quotients, i.e. it's a number you can obtain by dividing one integer by another (in this case 1461/365). However, the precise length of a year could fall into "R", the set of irrationalnumbers, which includes pi, e and the square root of 2: these can't be obtained from division, although there are ways of calculating them from infinite series of dimishing quotients. For example. 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + ... eventually sums to 2. Of course, the length of the year is slowly increasing, so no two are exactly the same length; also, we're talking about the solar year, which is slightly longer than the sidereal year. Any questions?

Steve


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Penny S.
Date: 30 Sep 00 - 02:01 PM

Mysteriously, the same number you get if you total up all the gifts in the song the Twelve Days of Christmas, which has also been made to bear more meaning than it can rightly be expected to. It is a coincidence, of course. And please remember that the length of the year is not 365 days, but 365 plus a little less than a quarter, and no sequence of integers will produce that - will it?

Penny


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: John Hindsill
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 05:48 PM

Actual, if one counts the Jack as being 11 (it being one higher than a ten); the Queen, 12; and the King, 13 the total becomes 364...whoops we still lack a day. But it makes for a good recording. The first one I heard was by T. Texas Tyler, a western singer in the late 1940s.

Happy New Year to my Jewish compadres. We probably only need two suits for our version of Deck of Cards!!!

John


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 03:33 AM

Jim, I expect the song's author probably thought, "I'll say 365! What kind of idiot is going to count 'em?"

NOI ... us idiots should stick together. If you add the first number (1) and the last (10) (=11) and multiply them by their average (5) you get 55. That goes for any series of consecutive numbers. The number of times that's got me out of a tight spot in a folk club ... is very small, actually, but you neve know.

I bet nobody ever thought of checking! O fcourse, as there are four suits, the number of spots has to be an even number.

In the early days of my programming career, computers still used punched cards. A bunch of cards was called a pack by some, and a deck by others. I asked my boss once which was correct, and he said, "Either will do, but remember a pack always has a couple of jokers in it!". Old programmers will know what I mean!

Steve


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 01:07 PM

"When I count the number of spots on a deck of cards, I find 365…" Hmmm. What counts as a "spot"? If you count the number of spades, hearts, diamonds and clubs in the MIDDLE of each of the cards Ace through Ten, then EACH SUIT has 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 10 = 55 spots, and ALL 4 SUITS have 55 x 4 = 220 spots. If you count the "spots" that occur in the upper left corner and the lower right corner of each card, then you have 52 x 2 additional spots, or a total of 324 spots. This leaves 41 spots unaccounted for. So I assume he must be counting the spots that appear in the pictures of the face cards. Now I believe these designs are copyrighted and vary somewhat according to the manufacturer. But since each card is symmetrical, top to bottom, the number of spots must be even. To come up with an odd number, he might be counting one joker. The design of the joker also varies, and is not always symmetrical. But why would a joker have any spots at all? I would think a joker should have either 4 spots (spade, heart, diamond and club) or none, since it doesn't belong to any suit. Also, the design of the Ace of Spades varies, and might contain a logo, so you might come up with an odd number there. (I mean, there might be an odd spot in addition to the ones I have already counted.)

That's as far as I can go without an actual deck of cards to look at. So do you think there is any way to actually come up with 365, or is the soldier BS-ing about this as much as everything else?


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 11:21 AM

Marie, if you check up above, the lyrics are available at several sites, instantly clickable. Cowpie for one has it. I am sure there were at least two or three other sites linked from this one.


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: GUEST,Gene
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 10:59 AM

You can play 2 versions here: * Click/FOR ROSE *


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: GUEST,Marielaracroft@aol.com
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 06:59 AM

Has anyone got the song to send me... I have looked for it and can't find it anywhere..Deck of Cards...Wink Martindale.......


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: GUEST,Marielaracroft@aol.com
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 06:59 AM

Has anyone got the song to send me... I have looked for it and can't find it anywhere..Deck of Cards...Wink Martindale.......


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 25 Apr 00 - 03:32 AM

David Frost's version was written by Tim Brooke-Taylor (ISIRTA, Goodies, BananaMan, etc.), who has also performed it. Anyone know it?

Steve


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 21 Apr 00 - 11:17 AM

And all I could think of was the verse in one of the Liar's Songs (speaking of many versions), this one I Was Born About 10,000 Years Ago, and I think this is either the Doc Watson version or the Oscar Brand one:
I saw Cain and Abel playing in the glade
And I swear that it was poker that they played
And then Abel got a rub, so Cain hit him with a club
Or perhaps it was a diamond or a spade.


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Subject: Lyr Add: DECK OF CARDS
From: GUEST,Angel
Date: 21 Apr 00 - 07:52 AM

Here are the lyrics to the song:

The Deck of Cards

During the North African campaign, a bunch of soldier boys had been on a long hike and they arrived in a little town called Cascina. The next morning being Sunday, several of the boys went to Church. A sergeant commanded the boys in Church and after the Chaplain had read the prayer, the text was taken up next.

Those of the boys who had a prayer book took them out, but this one boy had only a deck of cards, and so he spread them out. The Sergeant saw the cards and said, "Soldier put away those cards." After the services was over, the soldier was taken prisoner and brought before the Provost Marshall.

The Marshall said, "Sergeant, why have you brought the man here?"

"For playing cards in church, Sir."

"And what have you got to say for yourself, son?"

"Much, Sir." Replied the soldier.

The Marshall said, "I hope so, for if not I shall punish you more than any man was ever punished."

The soldier said, "Sir, I've been on the march for about six days, I had neither Bible nor prayer book, but I hope to satisfy you, Sir, with the purity of my intentions."

With that, the boy started his story:

You see Sir, when I look at the "ACE", it reminds me that there is but one God;

And the "DEUCE" reminds me that the Bible is divided into two parts; The Old and the New Testaments;

And when I see the "TREY", I think of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost;

And when I see the "FOUR", I think of the four Evangelists who preached the Gospel. There was Matthew, Mark, Luke and John;

And when I see the "FIVE", it reminds me of the five wise virgins who trimmed their lamps. There were ten of them, five were wise and were saved. Five were foolish and were shut out;

And when I see the "SIX", it reminds me that in six days, God made this great heaven and earth;

When I see the "SEVEN", it reminds me that on the seventh day, God rested from His great work;

And when I see the "EIGHT", I think of the eight righteous persons God saved when He destroyed this earth. There was Noah, his wife, their three sons and their wives;

And when I see the "NINE", I think of the lepers our Saviour cleansed. And nine out of the ten didn't even thank Him.

When I see the "TEN", I think of the Ten Commandments God handed down to Moses on a table of stone;

When I see the "KING", it reminds me that there is but one King of Heaven, God Almighty;

And when I see the "QUEEN", I think of the Blessed Virgin Mary, who is Queen of Heaven;

And the "JACK" or "KNAVE" is the Devil;

When I count the number of spots on a deck of cards, I find 365, the number of days in a year; There's 52 cards, the number of weeks in a year; There's 4 suits, the number of weeks in a month; There's 12 picture cards, the number of months in a year; There's 13 tricks, the number of weeks in a quarter; So you see, Sir, my pack of cards serves me as a Bible, Almanac and Prayer Book.

"And friends, this is a true story, because I was that soldier.

~ Author Unknown By Me ~

And if anyone wants a copy of the song, I have it on Wave format.

podie@email.com


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: GUEST,art
Date: 20 Apr 00 - 06:25 PM

david frost also did a version about the contents of a cricket bag UK members are invited to explain to our american friends the subtleties of cricket and the its relevance to "deck of cards"

any takers?


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: SINSULL
Date: 20 Apr 00 - 05:01 PM

T.TEXAS TYLER ALSO ADDED "AND I WAS THAT SOLDIER." MAYBE IT'S PART OF THE LYRICS?


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 06 Dec 99 - 10:59 AM

Actually, as I recall the "song", the soldier was in church, and someone brought him up to the Provost Marshall on the charge of playing cards in an inopportune moment. The song, though it was written and sung by Americans, could have been ANY soldier in any military at just about any time. It is well crafted.


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: fox4zero
Date: 05 Dec 99 - 05:25 PM

Abbridge, Rick & Zorro: I am sure that the version which was popular in the late 1940's and early 1950's was song by T. Texas Tyler. It was one of those sentimental songs at the end of a romantic era, which means it preceded rock & roll. In this version a US soldier was playing cards when he should have been attending to some assigned official duty. The provost marshall tells him that unless he has an explanation, "he would be pumished as no man has ever been punished before". He then explains that his deck of cards is a bible, almanac and prayer book. Its really edifying to learn the early Brittish roots of this song.

Parish


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Melbert
Date: 05 Dec 99 - 04:58 PM

Richard Digance often threatened audiences that he would sing "Deck of Cards" or "Bright Eyes" if they didn't join in the choruses of his songs......


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: abbridge@midmaine.com
Date: 05 Dec 99 - 04:50 PM

The song, "The Deck of Cards" was done by Wink Martindale, written by T. Texas Tyler, 1959. It hit the Top 10 in 1959. It can be found on a CD entitled "God, Love, and Rock and Roll."


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Dolly-Maui, Hawaii
Date: 14 Oct 99 - 02:50 AM

Aloha, Mahalo (thank you) for posting the "Deck of Cards", it is played on our radio station, and it always, brings tears to my eyes. Kudos go to the author of this beautiful and very inspiring message. God bless and have a great day!


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Pete M
Date: 18 Apr 99 - 05:03 PM

That's an interesting point about sending up the New model army Penny, because when I was at school we were told the story by our history master as occuring during the Civil war, and I admit I can find it believable in the that context, given the depth of religious feeling at that time.

Nowadays? Nah.

Pete M


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Penny
Date: 16 Apr 99 - 05:38 PM

Oh dear, Oh dear, Oh dear, and there I was growing up in a good Christian household with no cards! So much so that when I tried to construct a trick out of a box of conjuring tricks, and reached the instruction "cut the deck", I used scissors! (I know better now). By which I intend to convey that it seems to me that cards are cards, and religion is religion, and putting texts on cards doesn't sanctify them., if you have doubts about their appropriateness. I was curious about that song going back to the 17th century, because it would tie in with the 12 Days of Christmas being a mnemonic, too, which I didn't find convincing. Bearing in mind the nature of the English armies at that time, it couldn't have been someone sending up the New Model Army, could it?


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 16 Apr 99 - 09:23 AM

You might like to have a look here and here. They don't go into history, but it's interesting.

Steve


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Bill in Alabama
Date: 16 Apr 99 - 08:02 AM

Penny--

The version I have dates from the 1870's, and the story is told by a soldier "who was taken before the magistrate in Glasgow;" so that I assume the original anecdote to have a Scottish locale. What I have is an old blacksmith's ledger book from the early-mid-1800's which, when the pages were filled, was made into a scrap book for newspaper clippings. Among the clippings are such things as the reports of the murder of Jesse James, and a clipping headed 'The Religious Deck of Cards,' or something like that.


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 16 Apr 99 - 07:13 AM

Blimey, how should I know?

Well actually, Penny, about twenty-odd years ago I got into a discusion like this one with a couple of friends. One of them had a magazine article with the details in. I can't get in touch with the others, but the mag was probably "Folk Review"; I don't know if it's still going - any offers, guys?

Steve


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Penny
Date: 16 Apr 99 - 05:27 AM

Do tell, where can they be found? You can't just mention antique versions and just leave it like that, can you?


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 16 Apr 99 - 03:31 AM

There are versions of the Deck of Cards from the 17th - yes, the 17th, not the 19th or the 18th! - century, which makes for pretty good historical bona fides. Maybe it's been around too long, and that's why it's become trite?

Steve


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Apr 99 - 09:29 PM

Ah, Catspaw, WWVA was the absolute classic of the gospel radio stations, and they could be heard all over the Eastern U.S. when I was a kid. I often think those radio preachers target audiences far away from home, and I'm sure most of those contributions to the preachers came from outside West Virginia, maybe from my neighbors in the Midwest.
I also think that the people who compose things like "Deck of Cards" do it with an interesting sense of humor. Same with a lot of gospel songs - they're so much fun to sing, they MUST be sinful. "Power in the Blood" is one of my favorites, although I think it stinks from a theological standpoint.
As a graduate of a rather liberal Catholic seminary, I guess my initial tendency is to look down my nose at fundamentalism. As I've grown older, I've learned that maybe I didn't learn all the answers with my theology training, and maybe the folks with the simple, old-time religion have a better understanding of what is profound. Old-time religion sure beats buzzword-laden "mainstream" liberal Christianity in some ways.
Still and all, despite my hardest attempts to be open-minded and generous, I get a good chuckle when I read stuff like "Deck of Cards." And I am more than a bit cynical of radio preachers.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Apr 99 - 08:20 PM

Well..............

I find myself in general agreement with all of the last few posts. I remember a lot of the singing I did in my youth was at home and in church and of course a lot of that was hymns and gospel which is an obvious tie to the Southern Mountain music that I love and the offshoots such as Bluegrass which relies heavily on gospel. Pete hit the nail on the head squarely on the head when he mentions the way the song is presented. It's not the song as much as the presentation by some, such as Phil Harris, which makes it come off so badly. Sure, it's a bit scmaltzy for me, but if I had heard it done by Audie Murphy.......

But Joe, it's easy to offend and I try to keep my "sideshow" tone light enough so it's hopefully not taken too badly. But realize too that your last comment could be taken offensively. Living and growing up only a scant few miles from Wheeling, are you implying that folks in the hills and the river valley are just stupid hillbillies and could be easily duped into doing anything with the right approach? Why not use Chicago or New York? Or go to Nashville for the biggest caountry shows of those days? Or even WLW in Cincy? I know that's not what you meant Joe, far from it. But it certainly could be taken that way.

I will take issue with you on one point Joe...regarding Rick's dickheads, uh deckheads. You say we should be nice to everyone and include them in the community of Mudcat. I can prove, with logic you cannot refute, that you are wrong. When I came on I stayed because everyone was nice to me......and look how this has turned out for you!!!

catspaw


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Banjeray (inactive)
Date: 15 Apr 99 - 06:36 PM

Hey everybody....No apologies necessary, least not here! If we all thought alike this would be one dreary existence, wouldn't it? I respect anyone's right to disagree with my opinion, and I will, when I feel the need to, disagree respectfully with yours. We, the members of Mudcat, all know that it is OK to do so. I would guess that a lot of us think like Rick does, that the gospel songs are a large part of our musical lives. I truly enjoy "old time" and country gospel. Both listening to and playing. To me it seems closest to our roots because of the often simple melodies one can see that it was written largely by folks like us! Although I can read music to a degree, I play by ear, and it just seems that the old gospel material is so easy to play. Is that just my own idea or do others feel likewise?


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 15 Apr 99 - 05:17 PM

Alright Joe, you pushed the right button. I too remember those radio shows from far away, with their offers of "live baby chicks", "Last Supper tablecloths", and "personalised" Bibles (they stamped your name in gold on it) I loved the country and gospel music (even remember T Texas Tyler singing his hit "you know what..I'm not mentioning it's name again". One of the names I remember was "lonesome" lee Moore, the coffee drinkin' nighthawk. The gospel songs never converted me but they became a huge part of my musical life (still are).

So I apologize for calling those merry pranksters "dickheads", when I meant "deckheads". Also for not spelling "allowed" correctly. I suspect some want this thread to go away, so I promise not to respond again if it drops out of the "top ten". (I'll try, anyway)


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Pete M
Date: 15 Apr 99 - 04:37 PM

OK OK Ok its my turn to have my wrist slapped. I would just like to say to Banjeray that I have no problem with the religion espoused in this work, nor the concept of its pictorial representation, nor do I want to proscribe what other people listen to. I was trying to point out that there does seem to be a high degree of correlation between requests for this work, in this and several other threads, and an inability, or unwillingness, to read preceeding posts; far more so than for any other work that I can recall, or which would be explained by Joe's theory about ancient browsers.

Of course the way in which I noted this apparent correlation may have had something to do with the fact that I agree totally with Catspaw about the merits of the saccharine way in which this story is presented by the C&W fraternity.

As I have said before, if they ended their recitation with something along the lines of " And the Sarn't Major said, 'Get digging those latrines you effin' little smart arse.'"; I just might find it just bareable.

A contrite (but not very) Pete M


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Apr 99 - 01:23 PM

OK, I enlarged the links at the beginning of this thread so they are clearly visible (some browsers just don't make links stand out very well). If people still add requests to the bottom of this thread, we'll really have reason to wonder - or maybe they're pulling our leg and very effectively making fools out of us.
Nevertheless, even though comments that point out others' apparent stupidity may seem warranted and may be quite funny at the time, I think they tend to drag down the spirit of the discussion. Many of us enjoy the 'Cat because it has been such a friendly place. Comments that make other people look stupid tend to take that friendly spirit away. I'm not looking for a humorless place full of warm fuzzies - that would make me gag. I DO think that we need to treat every visitor and every member here with respect.
As for this piece, I've always thought of it as a classic. I can picture some radio preacher like those guys in the 50's on Clear Channel WWVA in Wheeling, using this speech a hundred times and getting people to send in their donations by the thousands.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 15 Apr 99 - 12:08 PM

My comment was in regards to the repetition of the requests (where it appeared that some had not read the earlier postings in the thread) and NOT, repeat NOT connected in any way to the quality or content of the song. I learned long ago that one man's/women's tripe is another's steamed lobster!


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: SingsIrish Songs
Date: 15 Apr 99 - 02:50 AM

Lots of great info about the song/recitation. Another person to record it is Wink Martindale...


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: ddw in windsor
Date: 15 Apr 99 - 12:57 AM

Yeah, Joe and Banjer -- stick with the first amendment rights.

But which amendment is it that gives us the right to get up and leave when this kinda tripe comes on? :-)

ddw


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Banjeray (inactive)
Date: 14 Apr 99 - 09:29 PM

Thank you Joe, While I am not a regular churchgoer, haven't been to one since Bowser was a pup, I believe that each of us is free to worship as we please. I heard this recitation many years ago by one of the early C&W artists and it has sort of been a reminder to me that my concept may not be all wrong. It may be a piece of tripe, trash or other garbage to some, but to others it may be an inspiration. To paraphrase an oldie, "Beauty is in the ear of the beholder"


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Apr 99 - 06:59 PM

Well, I keep hoping there's an explanation. This stuff looks perfectly clear on reasonably new computers, but if you're trying to look at this on WEBTV or even on a computer with a low-resolution display, the 'Cat isn't too easy to read. My dad is a technical genius with several patents to his name, but he has WEBTV - and you should see the (seemingly) dumb questions he sends me.
I figure these people have technical problems, or they're overwhelmed. Nobody could be that stupid. Or, if they are, then maybe we should be nice to them. Whatever the case, it appears that some people like this song. Why not leave them alone and let them enjoy it?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Some Lonesome Dude
Date: 14 Apr 99 - 06:50 PM

Hi! I'm looking for a song about this Dude who kept posting requests for a song about this Dude who would read the thread, forget he had posted the original thread about the dude, then something would jog his memory about this song about this dude who had these cards who the Dude believed they told the story of the Bible to this other Dude. Not sure if it's the same dude.


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Pete M
Date: 14 Apr 99 - 05:16 PM

My feeling Rick is that anyone who actually want's this tripe is too bloody thick to notice whatever you say. Of course knowing our lot, the post immediately above yours could be a wind up.

Pete M


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Subject: RE: Singers Title: Bible Story with Deck of Cards
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 14 Apr 99 - 01:52 PM

I need a consensus. Are we aloud to be flat out rude to flat out dick-heads?


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