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Bromyard Folk Festival 2011

JP2 03 Sep 11 - 08:54 AM
Silas 03 Sep 11 - 09:38 AM
JP2 03 Sep 11 - 10:46 AM
Silas 03 Sep 11 - 10:48 AM
JP2 03 Sep 11 - 12:44 PM
GUEST,Connie 03 Sep 11 - 01:10 PM
GUEST,BFF Admin 03 Sep 11 - 01:46 PM
GUEST,Connie 04 Sep 11 - 08:18 AM
the lemonade lady 04 Sep 11 - 08:42 AM
Wheatman 04 Sep 11 - 10:55 AM
the lemonade lady 04 Sep 11 - 01:37 PM
JennyO 05 Sep 11 - 07:38 AM
Mo the caller 05 Sep 11 - 10:45 AM
GUEST,Bartle 06 Sep 11 - 03:29 AM
John J 06 Sep 11 - 04:14 AM
Mo the caller 06 Sep 11 - 04:43 AM
Paul Davenport 06 Sep 11 - 05:09 AM
GUEST,Bartle 06 Sep 11 - 05:29 AM
Mo the caller 06 Sep 11 - 05:56 AM
JennyO 06 Sep 11 - 07:58 AM
GUEST 06 Sep 11 - 09:39 AM
Seayaker 06 Sep 11 - 02:51 PM
Seayaker 06 Sep 11 - 06:24 PM
GUEST,Connie 07 Sep 11 - 03:34 AM
Wheatman 07 Sep 11 - 06:17 AM
Seayaker 07 Sep 11 - 06:47 AM
GUEST,Dave Hunt 07 Sep 11 - 06:53 AM
Brian Peters 07 Sep 11 - 07:05 AM
JennyO 07 Sep 11 - 03:26 PM
JennyO 07 Sep 11 - 07:20 PM
JennyO 08 Sep 11 - 07:51 AM
GUEST,on holiday - not logged in 08 Sep 11 - 09:17 AM
JennyO 08 Sep 11 - 11:20 AM
Wheatman 08 Sep 11 - 02:10 PM
JennyO 08 Sep 11 - 03:14 PM
the lemonade lady 08 Sep 11 - 09:03 PM
the lemonade lady 08 Sep 11 - 09:10 PM
GUEST,Clive Pownceby 09 Sep 11 - 05:19 AM
the lemonade lady 09 Sep 11 - 12:15 PM
JennyO 11 Sep 11 - 01:49 PM
JennyO 11 Sep 11 - 02:02 PM
Dave Earl 11 Sep 11 - 02:09 PM
JennyO 11 Sep 11 - 02:33 PM
the lemonade lady 11 Sep 11 - 05:29 PM
JennyO 12 Sep 11 - 10:38 AM
Dave Earl 12 Sep 11 - 04:16 PM
the lemonade lady 12 Sep 11 - 04:28 PM
Hesk 12 Sep 11 - 05:09 PM
JennyO 13 Sep 11 - 04:06 AM
JennyO 13 Sep 11 - 04:09 AM
Dave Earl 13 Sep 11 - 04:38 AM
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Mo the caller 13 Sep 11 - 06:49 AM
JennyO 13 Sep 11 - 09:14 AM
Mo the caller 13 Sep 11 - 09:35 AM
Dave Earl 13 Sep 11 - 09:58 AM
JP2 13 Sep 11 - 10:12 AM
Wheatman 14 Sep 11 - 03:26 AM
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Subject: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JP2
Date: 03 Sep 11 - 08:54 AM

Is anybody going to Bromyard Folk Festival?

Lineup looks OK,weather looks OK and there's Wye Valley to drink in the Beer Tent.

What's not to like!!!!

I've been looking at the 1976 programme and the guest list looks a bit different to today.

There were nine acts on,Dave Burland,Fred Jordan,Silly Wizard,Bill Caddick,Geoff & Pennie Harris,Bob Williamson,Keith Chandler,Jim Mageean and Mr.Gladstone's Bag.

The Bushwackers Band were booked but were replaced quite late on by June Tabor.

Two dance bands were appearing,the Allemanders and Woodley Yeoman with callers Gerry Phelps,Walt Tingle Tex Blomfield and Hugh Rippon.

Were any current Mudcatters,apart from me,there and what memories does anyone have,good bad or indifferent?


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Silas
Date: 03 Sep 11 - 09:38 AM

I think I may have been there, all a bit of a drunken haze in those days, however, you have Keith Chandler as a guest? He was a founder membe rof our Morris Side - Glebe - any more info?


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JP2
Date: 03 Sep 11 - 10:46 AM

Hi Silas,yes,Keith was on the programme in 1976 running the Singarounds in the Falcon Oak Room.

No more info,sorry.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Silas
Date: 03 Sep 11 - 10:48 AM

You don't have a copy of this programme that you could scan and send me do you?


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JP2
Date: 03 Sep 11 - 12:44 PM

Yes I do have copy of the programme but no scanner I'm afraid.

PM me and we'll work something out.

Help!

Help!

I am now in possession of the Beer List and tasting notes for the Beer Tent at Bromyard.

They are in .pdf format so how do I,what is not very PC literate,post them here.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: GUEST,Connie
Date: 03 Sep 11 - 01:10 PM

Beer list last year was brilliant. Looking forward to a beer festival as well as the great music and morris.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: GUEST,BFF Admin
Date: 03 Sep 11 - 01:46 PM

Beer tasting notes now available on front page of 2011 Bromyard Folk Festival website! www.bromyardfolkfestival.co.uk


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: GUEST,Connie
Date: 04 Sep 11 - 08:18 AM

A splendid range of beers and ciders - well done Nige!


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 04 Sep 11 - 08:42 AM

Don't forget the Falcon Concert on the Thursday night, for this who come early.

Sal


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Wheatman
Date: 04 Sep 11 - 10:55 AM

The kell's snr, jnr and jnr jnr will all be there. Gan canny Brian


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 04 Sep 11 - 01:37 PM

You know what I dislike about mudcat? There's no turning back... If you make a mistake in a thread, it's final and can't corrected...sorry!


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JennyO
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 07:38 AM

Rob and I are going! We have fond memories of Bromyard from 2008, which was the first weekend we spent together, shortly after meeting in real life for the first time, after a year-long internet romance! Now we are married and have joined the ranks of Jacqui and Kendall and others who met through Mudcat :)

We always stay at our favourite B&B, which we book up for the next year at the end of the festival, and it's one of our very strong reasons for going back each year. We were actually a bit disappointed last year with the festival itself since the Hop Pole became a private residence instead of the pub on the square that seemed like the hub of the festival in the town. Still looking forward to it though ;)


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Mo the caller
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 10:45 AM

Will we see you over breakfast, then.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: GUEST,Bartle
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 03:29 AM

I think it a little harsh for JennyO to be disappointed with the festival itself because a local business was in difficulties. The hub of the festival is the festival site, not any individual pub. The "pub fringe" is what you make it. Anyway, you'll be pleased to hear that the Hop Pole is open for business once more.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: John J
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 04:14 AM

That's excellent news!

JJ


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Mo the caller
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 04:43 AM

But Bartle, ones experience at a festival is as much the fringe events as the 'official'.
People come, buy their tickets, listen to some of the acts, then go and make music on the fringe. If it wasn't for the participatory side of things the festival would have no life, it would just be a concert series. And if a particular festival was made memorable by a good session or sing-around, then it will be disappointing if that doesn't happen.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Paul Davenport
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 05:09 AM

Jenny has a point about the Hop Pole though. It seemed very flat in the square last year with the pub shut. Similar to the Square at Whittlesey in 2010 when the George was shut. What a difference a year makes.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: GUEST,Bartle
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 05:29 AM

I understand the dissapointment - but don't blame the festival itself. The festival organisers have no control over the ups and downs of our very precarious pub trade.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Mo the caller
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 05:56 AM

I don't think Jenny was 'blaming' the festival.
But it highlights the fact that there are many things outside a festival organisers control, that can spoil a festival or make it memorable, and influence the decision to go back next year, or try somewhere else.
Chester had a problem this year with lack of pub venues in Kelsall - next year should be better, one pub has reopened, another had a change of heart about folkies.
Another a big factor is the weather - it can flood a camp-site, ruin the displays and outdoor collecting, and for some, spoil the atmosphere, but all the organisers can do is make contingency plans.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JennyO
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 07:58 AM

No, I wasn't blaming the festival. Mo and Paul have nailed it. Our first experience of this festival in 2008 was on the Friday night, when we ran into Snuffy on the street, and then spent a wonderful evening in a session at the Hop Pole. I said it felt like the hub of the activity in the town, with all the dance displays etc in the square in front. Obviously, the hub of the official part of the festival is the festival site, but, as Mo says, it is just as important for many of us to experience the good sessions and the fringe happenings in the town, and that Friday night session was memorable to us.

I rediscovered folk only about 18 years ago, and from the very beginning, one thing I liked about festivals was having the opportunity to make your own music with others. Many folkies, including myself, don't just go to sit in concerts to be entertained - they want to participate! I like to do both - I always buy festival tickets - but there are many to whom the participation is the most important part. Lack of good sessions makes a huge difference to many of us. That is not blaming the festival organisers, who don't have control over those things, but as Paul said, it did seem very flat in the square last year.

In fact, we did consider going elsewhere this year, but decided to give it another go because we like our B&B so much, and this festival is special to us. So I'm delighted to hear that the Hop Pole is open for business again, and looking forward very much to it!

Yes, we'll see you over breakfast, Mo :)


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 09:39 AM

Anyone got information on the state of the campsite ?


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Seayaker
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 02:51 PM

Herefordshire and surrounding area has had the driest summer for 35 years (Midlands Today tonight) and there is very little rain forecast so there should be no problems.

The mudbath a couple of years ago was the result of a very wet summer and intense rain the preceeding week.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Seayaker
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 06:24 PM

Could be windy though.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: GUEST,Connie
Date: 07 Sep 11 - 03:34 AM

Have been on site since Monday. Ground absolutely fine. No problem for campers and only the odd shower forecast between now and Friday so should remain fine.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Wheatman
Date: 07 Sep 11 - 06:17 AM

I am getting excited now, can't wait till Friday. Gan Canny Brian


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Seayaker
Date: 07 Sep 11 - 06:47 AM

If you can't wait 'til Friday there's stuff going on Thursday evening


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: GUEST,Dave Hunt
Date: 07 Sep 11 - 06:53 AM

quote from above -'Were any current Mudcatters,apart from me,there and what memories does anyone have,good bad or indifferent? ''

Well I was there - I've been to EVERY Bromyard Festival - and been booked there every year for 34 years now ! Memories - myself and the late lamented Vic Baker (Professor Wingnut) ran the wondeful Music Hall nights for many years. I've also called for some great ceilidhs there too - lots of good sessions in the town - in the early days singing all night around the bonfire on the Bonfire Site - running a project in a local school teaching border morris - and then appearing with them in the Square - first time any women/girls had danced morris in the square! (Different now I'm happy to say)- Lots of great times working with the children - one year there were just two of us and 115 kids - and no stewards to help!!! And this year we'll be there as usual - Pirate theme on Sat. Animals on Sunday - send your children along to make things and have a sing. Always been one of my favourite festivals
Dave Hunt - Dr. Sunshine - Sunshine Arts


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Brian Peters
Date: 07 Sep 11 - 07:05 AM

Look out for two special shows:

'Songs of Trial & Triumph': meself, singing and talking about the Child Ballads.

Falcon Mews, 1800h Saturday


'The Road to Mandalay' Kipling's Barrack Room Ballads, as set to music by Peter Bellamy, performed by Dave Webber, Anni Fentiman and Brian Peters.

Falcon Mews, 1400h Sunday.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JennyO
Date: 07 Sep 11 - 03:26 PM

So who is going to be around Friday night? We'll be looking for a session in the Hop Pole - hoping that it will be as good (or almost) as the great one we went to on the Friday night in 2008!


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JennyO
Date: 07 Sep 11 - 07:20 PM

Refresh! Who's going to be there at the Hop Pole on Friday?


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JennyO
Date: 08 Sep 11 - 07:51 AM

Refresh again. Anybody?


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: GUEST,on holiday - not logged in
Date: 08 Sep 11 - 09:17 AM

Well we won't be there. The pub sessions are wonderful, but 100+ pounds for two people is a lot for a few good sessions.

As for the concerts, when we moaned about the ridiculous volume of the thudding bass and drums we were told 'if it's too loud you're too old'.

So bye bye Bromyard, and we hope chasing the youth market works out for you.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JennyO
Date: 08 Sep 11 - 11:20 AM

Guest, on holiday, I don't know who you are, but if you like the sessions but not the "thudding bass and drums" in the concerts down at the festival site, why would you have paid all that money for the festival? Surely you could have come just for the sessions in the town - for free. The festival site is far enough away from the town to not interfere with what is happening up there in any way!

Sounds like you are trying to make a Strong Statement by saying here that you are not coming, because you didn't like the tactless response you got. Now if you were to take your objections to the festival organisers and told them why you weren't coming, it might serve some purpose. If enough people would address their concerns to the relevant people - ie via feedback forms, who knows, they might even get results.

Some of the festivals (in fact a lot of them) now have loud concerts in the marquee tents and they are not to everyone's taste - particularly when venues are too close together and the sound bleeds from one to the other, however, I don't remember Bromyard being worse than others in this regard.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Wheatman
Date: 08 Sep 11 - 02:10 PM

The Kells cannot make it to night, meetings to go to. We should be on site by mid day tomorrow, get the family bits over with so I could be at the Hop Pole in the evening. I could do with a sing. Gan canny
Brian


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JennyO
Date: 08 Sep 11 - 03:14 PM

Great Brian, see you there tomorrow night :)


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 08 Sep 11 - 09:03 PM

JennyO: that was very well put.

I remember Bromyard festivals when this kind of complaint wouldn't've happened.

They used to grouse about a large ditch running across the field, that people would fall into, when wandering back to their tents in the dark. That was on the old field

Ah all gone now.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 08 Sep 11 - 09:10 PM

Ps I've just got in from performing in the opening concert, organised by Tony Burt at The Falcon Mews. What a great evening, and great sound men too. A sound techie can either make or break a performance. They knew their stuff! We, Loxley, were last on this evening and loved every minute of the concert. Many thanks to Tony, and so glad to see his hard efforts over the years have been recognised by being incorporated into the festival proper. The concert is free too.

Sal


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: GUEST,Clive Pownceby
Date: 09 Sep 11 - 05:19 AM

Going back to the initial post, yes I was there in 1976. We never missed a year from 1973 until late '80s when a change in job meant I had to be around to organise Freshers Fairs input at the old Liverpool Poly. I've never experienced the 'revised' site but reading this thread I'm starting to miss the old place! Yes, I guess it was all "so simple then" (Gladys Knight) compared to today's version but that's true of most Festivals I'd venture.
We stayed at the Barneby Arms out at Bredenbury and would hitch back, occasionally shelling out for a taxi. The Allemanders dance band were fellow residents.
Silly Wizard were just superb - raucous, good-time and good company too. I have a photo of a very young looking June Tabor on stage in the main marquee. When it rained, I'd never seen mud so red nor as cloyingly sticky! The Gents urinal drained straight into the ditch, the beer was Watneys Starlight or M&B Albright - ghastly stuff that delivered a headache after only one pint. I remember sings in the 'Railway,' up into town from the site - it's now a private house.
I had to climb back into the 'Falcon' through a window to rescue Fred Jordan's haversack which he'd left on Sunday afternoon(pubs closed at 2pm on Sunday back then) taking the skin off my shins in the process! "Thanks" said Fred.
We liked that part of the world so much that we'd stay on for a few days afterwards at the Barneby. Yes, I'm getting nostalgic! Would I still have as much fun if we returned?


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 09 Sep 11 - 12:15 PM

Loxley arrived at Tony Burt's Bromyard Festival programmed opening concert at the Falcon, last night, at 19:00 hrs. Little did we know, but we were the last on for the evening!! Thank you Tony for the honour. Afterwards lots of people asked where else we could be seen over the week, and we had to say..."Nowhere".

We left em wanting more


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JennyO
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 01:49 PM


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JennyO
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 02:02 PM

Oops, must have accidentally hit submit before.

Back on the computer in our B&B after leaving Bromyard, and for us, it was a cracking festival!

On Friday night, the Hop Pole was open but seemed to be occupied by a rather rowdy bunch, so we left them to it, and instead we found an excellent singing session in the Bayhorse.

Saturday was great - we saw the concerts we wanted to see and spent a lot of time in the football club singing shanties. Our Lady Penelope won the Shantyman Competition, and well deserved too!!

Our voices were starting to fail us by the end of Saturday, as we had already started off with some sort of throat bug that was hanging on from a cold. I barely managed Rolling Home in the Sunday Sing, and Rob has lost his voice altogether now!

Finally a couple of concerts in the Arts Centre, and we've come away feeling very satisfied. We got a lot of stuff on our sound recorders, and took lots of photos. If you are on Facebook and were there, watch out. You may very well find yourself on there :)


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Dave Earl
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 02:09 PM

Glad to hear you enjoyed it Jenny.

Wish I could have been there but leave allowance and lack of funds (look out overdraft here I come)prevent it I'm afraid.

See you somewhere about before too long.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JennyO
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 02:33 PM

Yes Dave, sure we'll catch up with you somewhere hopefully before too long.

By the way Dave, you probably won't want to know this, but 'free toast' found its way into my song :D


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 05:29 PM

I was there Saturday with Arthur, from Loxley, and we had a lovey day. Bromyard is an excellent festival. Really well organised, has moved with the times but still has the old festival feel. Well done Dick Dixon and everyone else concerned. Couldn't find any singarounds in the town though. In the evening we went to The Rushwick Folk Club and sang there?


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JennyO
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 10:38 AM

Sally, we were lucky to find the singaround in the Bayhorse, just past the Falcon, on Friday night. Don't know about the other nights as we were on the festival site, but next year, the Bayhorse might be the place to start looking. If a few of us on Mudcat decide in advance to go there, that might be the thing to do. It was a good space and the staff seemed friendly.

I also heard some singing in the beer tent on site on Saturday afternoon - not sure how long that went on, but "Fathom the Bowl" sounded pretty good :)

I agree that it seems to be a very well organised festival, with a nice balance of old and new. Only small thing I wondered about, was the lack of recycling facilities. Could it be a lack of cooperation from the local council?


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Dave Earl
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 04:16 PM

" 'free toast' found its way into my song"

Call me a boring old f**t if you like but yelling out that is the ruination of that song for me.So much so that I wont sing it in certain company.

Don't people listen to the words anymore.

Rant over

Dave


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 04:28 PM

Sounds like you're taking fun too seriously, Dave. It's just a song and we've all sung it hundreds of times...I'm a "Free Toast" shouter and have fun doing it! Another banning coming, me thinks!


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Hesk
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 05:09 PM

I have some sympathy with Dave, although I wouldn't go as far as staying away.
I think humorous alterations to songs, or the singing of parodies, can alter the tone of a singaround, usually, in my opinion, for the worse. By that I mean that it is usually a signal that the evening has moved away from straightforward renditions, and, instead, there will be one "humorous" song after another. It is a hard road back, after that.
Nevertheless, most people seem to enjoy them, so who is to say what is right or wrong. It could even be regarded as an essential ingredient of a successful evening, by many, especially after a few pints!


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JennyO
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 04:06 AM

That song is usually sung at the end, or right near the end, of a session, and in the singarounds I've been to, is sung joyfully. I don't think that singing "free toast" spoils the meaning of it for most of us - to me it is a bonding song, a song of triumph, and a good song to have ringing in your ears when you go 'rolling home' - after all I did have to learn the words of the verses to lead it, so I'm not unaware of what it is about. The free toast bit to me is part of the bonding!

Dave is quite entitled to his opinion - you can't please everyone - but for myself, I'm going to go on shouting "free toast".


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JennyO
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 04:09 AM

By the way, I heard a song sung in one of the concerts at the festival - can't remember what the song was now - that had a line like 'let the toast go round', and I immediately had a vision of 'round toast'. Unfortunately my mind works that way. Doesn't mean I can't be serious when I have to be.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Dave Earl
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 04:38 AM

All I am saying is that I don't like the inclusion the "Free Toast" shout now.

The first time I heard it it did cause me to smile but the joke has now worn off and I think it is time for another witicism,pun,parody to be introduced.

Jenny is right about it being a bonding song but there is a serious element to it that gets overlooked when it is sung in such fashion at the end of a session of drinking and singing.

At the end of the day, it's a case of "You sing it your way but let me sing it the way I prefer" which I suppose works in both directions so I'd better drop the matter and let the Thread get back to what it's supposed to be about.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Dave Earl
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 05:01 AM

Might it have been this one Jenny?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaE5PgZxZv0

Dave


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Mo the caller
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 06:49 AM

I don't go to as many song sessions as most of you, can you explain the 'toast' please.

It was a great festival and the last acts on Saturday and Sunday in the main tent were excellent and NOT too loud, so either the organisers listen to feedback or the fact that the John McCusker Michael McGoldrick John Doyle Trio brought their own soundman made a difference.
We like to sit near the front but are usually driven further back at the end of the concert by the volume, sometimes out of the tent altogether. Not this year though.

Unsung festival hero in my book is Sheila Mannering who organises the Day of Dance on Sat. That influences our choice of Bromyard as one of our 4 annual festivals.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JennyO
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 09:14 AM

No Dave, that wasn't it, though it has a lot of round toast :) I think whatever it was, was sung by Dave Webber and Anni Fentiman in the last sing concert in the Arts Centre marquee.

Mo, all this reference to toast is to do with the first line of the last verse of Rolling Home, where it goes :"So pass the bottle round, and let the toast go free". A number of naughty people, myself included, have got into the habit of calling out "Free toast!" after that line, and there are some who don't like us tampering with the song that way, because it spoils it for them. Unfortunately for them, I don't think it's about to go away.

It's very subjective anyway, what people like or don't like about things being done to songs. Rob doesn't like people singing "tra la la" at the end of lines in "Sweet Nightingale". I really don't care myself. There are also songs where people sometimes do actions, which may or may not go down so well with some others - "Swing low, sweet chariot" comes to mind. But you can't please everybody, and you can't really stop those things happening.

It seems that in Australia, where I came from, there are more parodies and funny versions of songs than here. Rob was amazed at the number of parodies he heard while he was there. I think in general, us Aussies are a rather rebellious bunch who like to stir things up - with our strong convict history it's not really too surprising! A lot of Australian folkies are also well towards the left in their political views, and union songs are very popular.

Having said that, there are some songs I would not tamper with. I haven't really noticed a humorous song altering the tone of a singaround all that much either. Ones I've been at lately seem to fluctuate. You only need one person to sing a serious song, and the tone has been altered again. I like the contrasts.

Anyway, enough thread creep - back to Bromyard - they seem to be improving it all the time - I liked the dance displays down at the festival site, the food was good, there seemed to be something for everyone. Altogether we thoroughly enjoyed ourselves, and we'll be back next year. So we'll see you over breakfast next year, Mo :)


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Mo the caller
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 09:35 AM

Yes, you'll certinly see us over breakfast. And then we'll part company and go to a 'different festival' Sign of a good weekend - something for everyone, and everyone saying 'what a pity you missed...'
Luckily we didn't get blown off the Long Mynnd on the way home - it felt as if we were going to be but the views were worth it.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Dave Earl
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 09:58 AM

The only other "Toast go around" I can think of is " in The Bright Shining Morning(*The merry, merry,merry horn cries come come away")

verse 6
Come, fill up your glasses, let the toast go around.
We'll drink to all hunters, where ever they're found.

But I don't think I've heard Dave and Anni sing it so if this is wrong too I'm stumped completely

Dave


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JP2
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 10:12 AM

Mannering or Mainwaring-------I think we should be told!

I must admit to being an Anti Free Toaster or "AFT" as we should call them.

I'll get the badges made!

A suggestion is that before every performance it should be decided,on a simple majority vote,whether we shout it out or not.

If it is decided that we do NOT shout it and someone does then the culprit shall pay fine of 50 guineas to the EFDSS/Morris Ring,or buy everyone in the room a drink,whichever is the greater sum.

The next song in our sights should be Pleasant and Delightful,I mean,honestly how on earth can shark,a shark,mark you play a melodeon,when research has clearly swown that they can't!

I'll get me coat!!


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Wheatman
Date: 14 Sep 11 - 03:26 AM

You leave Charming and Delightful alone!! Sorry I missed the song sessions, I had a very good time, but not quite as I expected. I was saddened by the Hop Pole on Friday night seemed to be awash with beer and drunks. I did think the Crown and Sceptre was a great new venue, the only improvement I would suggest was keep the seating as a cafe style and cut the white lights. The the atmosphere on the friday concert could have been improved by doing this (I feel) rather than the more formal rows of seats. I think it could have been achieved without the loss of seating. The jazz evening was outstanding (except the rapper, which was rough)that was cafe style and with coloured lighting. Well done Bromyard, again!! We will return, gan canny. Brian


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Mo the caller
Date: 14 Sep 11 - 12:21 PM

Sorry JP (and Sheila)
"Mannering or Mainwaring-------I think we should be told!"
I was ritin it as it is spoke


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: GUEST,Mrs Scarecrow
Date: 14 Sep 11 - 04:47 PM

The Hop Pole was indeed a disappointment the new management seemed to take a very avaricious attitude to the folk festival . We arrived to find them covering up their posters advertising rolls plus salad at £1.50 with ones saying rolls £3.00. Beer was £3 but only £2.50 or £2.70 in other pubs. When we returned to find the singing less than inspiring on friday night it took no time at all to decide on the Bay Horse who made us most welcome. We sang in there again breifly on Saturday but also had a good sing in the Queens. The Bay Horse again hosted a good session on Sunday lunchtime. The Hop Pole will have to show a significantly less cynical attitude if it wants to get our custom back.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: JennyO
Date: 14 Sep 11 - 05:39 PM

That is very shortsighted of the management at the Hop Pole - they ought to know that word will get around. All of a sudden they will wonder why the crowds are walking right past on their way to somewhere else, and all they will get is the usual locals. I'm very glad we ran into you, Mrs Scarecrow, and found out about the Bay Horse. Glad to hear that Friday night was not the only session in there. Looks like that will be the first place we look next year, or the Queens.


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Subject: RE: Bromyard Folk Festival 2011
From: Wheatman
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 04:13 PM

Information about proposed sessions nearer the time would be very helpful. Gan Canny Brian


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