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Subject: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 15 Sep 11 - 08:19 AM Probably old news to people in the USA, but to us it explains much. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/palin-took-cocaine-cheated-husband-094300647.html Sad with politicians isn't it.... I was sorry when Gary Hart got outed, he seemed quite nice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,999 Date: 15 Sep 11 - 08:35 AM I'm starting a "Let's feel sorry for Sarah" chapter, right here on Mudcat. Be the first to join. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: akenaton Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:29 AM "Let he who is without sin" etc etc. I suppose it must be hard to emmulate the Democrat "saints",JFK and Slack Willie. Scotlands National Poet said it better than any. " Then gently scan your brother man, Still gentler sister woman ; Tho' they may gang a kennin wrang, To step aside is human : One point must still be greatly dark, The moving why they do it ; And just as lamely can ye mark How far perhaps they rue it. 8. Who made the heart, 'tis He alone Decidedly can try us : He knows each chord, its various tone, Each spring, its various bias : Then at the balance let's be mute, We never can adjust it ; What's done we partly may compute, But know not what's resisted" Robert Burns....."Address to the Unca Guid." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Ron Davies Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:35 AM Take the Sun. Multiply by 10 (at least). Then you're approaching the reliability of items in the National Enquirer. This may help sell books. It will do nothing else. What's more, it's yesterday's news in the extreme, since Sarah is yesterday's girl. She was too clever by half. Thought she could wait til Labor Day to announce. Now Perry has used up all her oxygen. Translation of this for UK readers available on request if needed, but it should be clear enough. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Rapparee Date: 15 Sep 11 - 10:13 AM She never inhaled, even though she was in graduate school. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: frogprince Date: 15 Sep 11 - 12:24 PM Sorry, but; as one who cringes in horror at the thought of Palin in any position of national influence, let alone the presidency, I wouldn't give a moment's creedance to these "revelations" without confirmation from far different sources. Taking "facts" from the National Inquirer is like imagining you can read facts from the stains on used toilet paper. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Mrrzy Date: 15 Sep 11 - 12:46 PM Heh heh heh I can just see her pointy little nose sniffing that lovely powder heh heh heh AND she's skinny, maybe she's still a fiend? heh heh heh |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Wesley S Date: 15 Sep 11 - 12:51 PM Her stand on the issues is scary enough. Why do we need to gossip about her? She had a one night stand before she was married? Who gives a flip? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,999 Date: 15 Sep 11 - 12:57 PM This has nothing to do with her morals, Ake. It has to do with the shit she's been slinging against anyone who isn't a right-wing republican. A lobotomy would improve her intelligence. I never have had any use for Slick Willy or JFK for that matter. So put away your political agenda and look at the person. That bitch has implied all kinds of stuff--unfounded--about Obama, and she's got away with it. Finally, she has some of it in her own lap. It's about time, and I don't care what political party she's with. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Joe Offer Date: 15 Sep 11 - 12:57 PM Doonesbury is having some fun with Sarah this month.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: lefthanded guitar Date: 15 Sep 11 - 01:46 PM Politicians have been elected despite these allegations- Bush Jr was reported to be a drunk and cocaine user; Newt served his wife divorce papers after her cancer operation. Some get elected, some get the boot. It's an odd conundrum; Weiner got himself tossed out of office (and has served up his district with a Republican as a result) for far lesser crimes-poor b(****d didn't even get laid. I can't always make sense of what the public lauds and/or forgives. But the two things that scare me about Sarah, besides her extremist right wing politics, is how she just quit the governorship without any reason and no one really seems to take her to task for it. And most importantly, how very unlearned and ignorant she is; tho her fans seem to accept it, as if being shrewd is a subsitute for intelligence. It's been quite a while since we elected politicians because we knew that intellectually, they were BETTER than the average joe, so that we had thoughtful statespeople like Roosevelt, JFK, heck even Eisenhower had a well thought message compared to brickbrains like Palin. Would be nice if politics and politicians stopped being just another reality show. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 15 Sep 11 - 01:56 PM Then you're approaching the reliability of items in the National Enquirer." That's got nothing to do with the book that was wriiten. Buddy would not have written the book if he couldn't prove everything. I don't give a rat's ass what she did... it's the person she is NOW that counts in my books. And, I think she's as stunned as me arse. BTW... right on 9! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Donuel Date: 15 Sep 11 - 01:57 PM A real news story would be about someone who never tried marching powder in the 80's Being a political shill for corporations requires a high degree of ignorance and naievete' Being a think tank shill for corporations requires the opposite. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Jim Dixon Date: 15 Sep 11 - 02:19 PM Most of us would never have heard of Sarah Palin if John McCain hadn't chosen her as his running mate. What the hell was HE snorting? I think she deserves to go back into the obscurity of being just another ex-governor of Alaska. How many others can you name? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,Ebbie Date: 15 Sep 11 - 03:24 PM There haven't been all that many- although if you include governors from before Alaskan statehood the numbers are substantial. William Allen Egan January 3, 1959 December 5, 1966 Democratic Wally Hickel December 5, 1966 January 29, 1969 Keith Harvey Miller January 29, 1969 December 7, 1970 William Allen Egan December 7, 1970 December 2, 1974 Democratic Jay Hammond December 2, 1974 December 6, 1982 Republican 2 Bill Sheffield December 6, 1982 December 1, 1986 Democratic Steve Cowper December 1, 1986 December 3, 1990 Democratic 1 Wally Hickel December 3, 1990 December 5, 1994 Alaskan Independence Republican Tony Knowles December 5, 1994 December 2, 2002 Democratic Frank Murkowski December 2, 2002 December 4, 2006 Republican Sarah Palin December 4, 2006 July 26, 2009 Republican Sean Parnell July 26, 2009 Incumbent Republican |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 15 Sep 11 - 03:40 PM The book has all the usual old garbage that can be dredged up about most people. And most of it is unprovable (he said, she denied). I don't hold any brief for Palin, she would be a useless leader, but muckraker book plus Enquirer = 0. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: pdq Date: 15 Sep 11 - 04:07 PM For those who don't know about the Enquirer, it once ran the headline "Carol Burnett's daughter gives birth to two-headed cow!". Real reliable news source, eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Wesley S Date: 15 Sep 11 - 04:25 PM And look how innaccurate that story was - we all know now that it was actually Carol Channings daughter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 15 Sep 11 - 04:33 PM Q... "And most of it is unprovable (he said, she denied)." But, if that is the case, is the writer liable for libel in a court of law? That is my point. This guy would not have written it if he couldn't prove it. However, as I stated above, I don't give two shits from Tuesday if she snorted cocaine or fuck her brains out with some basketball player. All I care about is that some brain dead twit actually was BROUGHT IN, ran for VP and might run for P... and that she got some votes!!! The National Enquirer had NOTHING to do with book except to boost it's sales so it's not even in the discussion as far as I am concerned. The discussion shouldn't even be about whatever she or her husband or her family did in the past... it should be about the fact that she as stunned as me arse. Although, I must say again, I like 9's take on her getting "what comes around". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Wesley S Date: 15 Sep 11 - 05:26 PM "But, if that is the case, is the writer liable for libel in a court of law? That is my point. This guy would not have written it if he couldn't prove it." That's what tabloids count on is people thinking that way - it makes them rich. Very few people in the public eye want to go into a court of law and sue. Because then you set yourself up to be crossexamined in open court. A lawyer can go where ever they want to looking for dirt. Better to just ignore it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,MarkS(on the road) Date: 15 Sep 11 - 05:37 PM Sarah Palin is this year a political non-entity. Expect her exposure and influence to decline in step with rise in certainty about whomever will be the next Republican nominee. Expect this current book about Palin to be shortly as germaine as the book by whatshisname last Spring about Obamas' birth certificate! Like the birth certificate issue, seems to me that Sarah Palins' celebrity has been "overtaken by events!" Mark (Who is still waiting for his own 15 minutes of fame!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,Emjay -- lost my cookie Date: 15 Sep 11 - 05:46 PM I was talking to a friend of my niece -- and said something about the reliability of anything in the enquirer. He laughed and said, "That piece was well documented -- and I got paid a lot of money for it." I have no idea what piece he wrote (He's the editor of a weekly paper in Anchorage) or if he wrote about affairs and cocaine use. The book by Joe McGinnis isn't due to be released until Sept. 20. I've also talked to him and read most everything he has written and find it well-documented. I know many people he talked to about Ms. Palin, and they are people who knew her and would have been truthful. When a story about Sarah Palin's alleged infidelities came out a few years ago, it was laughed at, especially by those who knew the alleged partner. I didn't vote for her as governor. She defeated a good, well-qualified former governor. I was horrified when she was named vp candidate but glad because I knew it assured an Obama victory. Martie -- I live in Palmer, not Wasilla. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 15 Sep 11 - 06:22 PM Soooo... if he prints sommat that ain't true and gets sued he can pay the damages because he got paid off big time by whoever? I don't buy that for a minute. Go try to sell that story to the National Enquirer. I bet they won't print it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,999 Date: 15 Sep 11 - 06:35 PM The NI is a rag. It's also made of straw on this thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 15 Sep 11 - 08:04 PM ' I was horrified when she was named vp candidate but glad because I knew it assured an Obama victory.' Maybe, but if the photos of Obama in bed with a choirboy had turned up, and then McCain caught a bullet - she might have been president. Playing with fire......I think you did it when you elected Reagan and he was obviously too old, you'll do it once too often. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Bobert Date: 15 Sep 11 - 08:21 PM Me thinks that Ms. Sarah needs another few night with the basketball player... And more pot!!! BTW, loved Brucie's observation that a lobotomy would improve Ms. Sarah's IQ... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Ron Davies Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:04 PM "assured an Obama victory" . Dream on. The only thing that killed McCain was his deer in the headlights/ headless chicken approach to the financial crisis. Bringing her on brought the passion McCain sorely needed--though he needed it at the top of the ticket. Ask yourself where the passion was in the 2008 general election. As for Sarah: only real point to make of this is that, as the country song says: "It Makes No Difference Now" since she is, as I noted ,"Yesterday's Girl" (Hank Snow, I think. Whether she did coke or slept around is at this point just a meaningless trivia question. I suspect the book will be a flop. At this point, who cares? And for the reason I cited: Rick Perry has used up all her oxygen. She waited too long. I read something that put it quite well: 2011: she strings it out as to whether she will run. 2012: she strings it out as to when she endorses Perry. She will have no other choice. Now she's just another rich celebrity. She may have some influence with her would-be supporters in influencing their choice. But she can never be that choice. And she will eventually have to support Perry. Only question is when. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,999 Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:14 PM Thanks, Bobster. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Bobert Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:29 PM No, thank you... That was one that I will "borrow" from time to time... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: akenaton Date: 16 Sep 11 - 03:23 AM Well, I think if Sarah decides not to run, America will have lost a real chance to save itself from the disaster waiting down the road. In the UK, the political parties have degenerated into squabbling factions....none of them have any idea how to address the economic mess which envelopes the "developed" West. Politics simply cannot react to what has happened, their system has been shown as worthless.....a sham. Ron...a good commentator on US politics is right, what is needed is passion and inspiration,for our problems can only be mitigated by us as individuals.....this is the endgame for the West and we need a leader who will tell us that only we ourselves can dig our way out of the hole that we all have made. Over the past few years, I've re-evaluated my left wing beliefs and found that they have become too complicated and too devisive,we need unity and cohesion over issues like our survival, rather than all the petty squabbling we have seen from politicians determined to keep a failed system in power. I cant believe you folks cannot see the qualities that people like Mrs Palin possess....forget the petty gripes and see the bigger picture. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 16 Sep 11 - 04:00 AM Interesting Ake....! I'm surprised you didn't twig that being a left winger sort of implied there is an active right wing. And being a member of the left wing - well it was almost a definition of 'divisive'. As for the other stuff .....well you were never all that keen on the two main parties anyway. Why you think America has missed out not being run by a coke sniffing dingbat, who poses in a bikini with combat rifle and whose family spend their leisure hours playing with electric tazer guns - well that one beats me. I think the world came uncomfortably close to being run by a halfwit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Wesley S Date: 16 Sep 11 - 07:06 AM "I cant believe you folks cannot see the qualities that people like Mrs Palin possess...." Actually - we do. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,999 Date: 16 Sep 11 - 11:22 AM "forget the petty gripes and see the bigger picture." Just what the world needs. Jaysus, Ake, ya know? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 16 Sep 11 - 02:09 PM "who poses in a bikini with combat rifle" Wellll... it ain't a combat rifle but I kinda see yer point. I'll say it again... my kinda gal but not much better suited for employment other than sloppin joe at Tim's. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Don Firth Date: 16 Sep 11 - 06:38 PM Sarah Palin complained that Tina Fey on "Saturday Night Live" exploited her and tried to make her look ridiculous. Tina Fey said that one of the very easy things about doing a take-off on Sarah Palin is that she, Tina Fey, didn't have to write a routine. She just memorized a couple of Sarah Palin's speeches and recites them verbatim. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 16 Sep 11 - 06:52 PM Sad shit Don. Very sad. On SO many levels. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 16 Sep 11 - 09:43 PM Yes I think maybe its a hunting rifle with telescopic sights. You're right. I still think she's crazy. WHAT can the Republicans be thinking of, choosing someone like her to be Governor of a State? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Bobert Date: 16 Sep 11 - 10:09 PM Heck, the Queen of PR oughtta just pose for Playboy and have all the attention she craves... I'd buy a copy... For the articles, of course... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,gillymor Date: 17 Sep 11 - 08:54 AM Heck, she was just doing was just doing what all republicans do, screwing black men. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,999 Date: 17 Sep 11 - 09:58 AM Naw, gilly. You likely don't recall the old saw: "In the north they don't care how close you get as long as you don't get too big. In the south they don't care how big you get as long as you don't get too close." The real story is not with whom she slept--because basically that's no one's business. The real story's that there IS a god and Palin has finally got some of what she's been dishing out coming back to bite her. I think it's about time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,josepp Date: 17 Sep 11 - 01:11 PM I wouldn't be so quick to buy into this stuff. I smell another rightwing trick--pay someone to write a nasty tell-all, watch her haters buy into it and then shred all the "evidence" in the book and expose it for fakery. I think the "liberal media" has been right to trash this book. I don't trust it. It's a trick. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 17 Sep 11 - 01:25 PM Trick? But, as I stated above, she could sue his ass off. Now, my comment on him being paid to do it... how would he get around the IRS? Swiss bank account or elsewhere? And, why would he need more money? He's got money to burn from previous work. So, what's the motive? Can you be jailed in the US for libel? or just sued for damages? Hehehehee... defamation of character might be difficult to prove... ya gotta have it first. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,LOL Date: 17 Sep 11 - 01:54 PM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Ron Davies Date: 17 Sep 11 - 02:42 PM As I said earlier, the whole thing is not worth anybody's time. She's yesterday's girl. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,josepp Date: 17 Sep 11 - 03:31 PM ////Trick? But, as I stated above, she could sue his ass off.//// Not if all this was agreed on beforehand. ////Now, my comment on him being paid to do it... how would he get around the IRS? Swiss bank account or elsewhere?//// He could have accepted gifts. He could have accepted a pat on the ass. ////And, why would he need more money?//// He doesn't necessarily need anything. He's a shill in a dirty tricks campaign for the same reason other people become shills--he believes in what he's doing. ////He's got money to burn from previous work. So, what's the motive?/// The last time a "liberal journalilst" fell for a dirty trick was Dan Rather when he bought those phony miltary documents about Bush. Everything in them was true but the documents themselves were bogus and easy to debunk as forgeries. Rather believed them because he knew the info in them was true. He was tricked. It ruined his career and killed any interest in the highly questionable version Bush handed the world wabout his military service--it got him sympathy and therefore votes. Sarah Palin no doubt has many dark secrets and all are in that book along with complete rubbish. But into the book and the rubbish will be exposed as false and will completely kill any interest in ANY of the info in the book. It worked once, no reason it wouldn't work again if fools buy into it. Sound like motive enough? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 17 Sep 11 - 10:09 PM Sorry... I must be sleepy tis late at night... I read that twice and still can't make any sense of it. Maybe tomorrow. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,Ebbie Date: 17 Sep 11 - 10:52 PM Writers do not necessarily have ethics but *all* of them are concerned about their reputations. Does josepp truly think that McGinnis would risk his? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,josepp Date: 18 Sep 11 - 12:16 AM McGinnis has already trashed his cred with this book which has been shredded by several "liberal media" outlets including the NYT. I haven't read it but from what I understand it has few if any footnotes and is therefore all hearsay--if true, that's not anything a writer would put out if he were interested in his reputation. If anything in it were true and provable then why would NYT trash it? Doesn't make sense. NYT learned its lesson with Judith Miller and Jason Blair--another writer so interested in his rep that he blatantly made up stories and then laughed and bragged when they were exposed as lies even though it meant his career was over. I'll guarantee the stuff about her having sex with a black basketball player is false. She's not the type. She's the kind of white woman who would never sleep with any man that wasn't white. It would never occur to her to do otherwise. She only finds white men attractive and the rest are scarcely human as far as she is concerned. But it's precisely the juicy kind of tidbit that rightwing spin doctors would put in the book hoping it would stir up prurient ideas in liberal minds. Other stuff in the book might be true, but they're going to make sure the stuff that really stands out most and titillates liberal sex fantasies overshadows it and gets all the attention so they can then expose it as false which will then destroy all interest in anything else that appears in that book so that even when the true stuff in it is brought to light, the public will go "YAWN! It's a dead issue!" It's worked before and it will work again but only if the "liberal media" have a field day with it. Well, they did but not in the way the RW kooks had hoped. They're not about to be taken in twice and they are wise to think that way. They are right to try and suppress the book. It needs to be investigated and whatever in it that's true then exposed to the public BEFORE this book is ever seen. Not hard to imagine why they feel this way if the book has nothing provable in it and it obviously doesn't or it wouldn't have been received so badly by a media that loves to put this woman on the spot. They know a rat when they smell it and so do I. Do you? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 18 Sep 11 - 12:22 AM I think certain people on the 'left' who still feel compelled to focus in on Sarah Palin, at this point..must have a 'Jones' for her!..Maybe they keep thinking everyone else, like themselves, is going to vote for her with their 'little brains'!.....and it terrifies them!.......(because they 'understand'). Smirking, GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,Ebbie Date: 18 Sep 11 - 02:34 AM "She's the kind of white woman who would never sleep with any man that wasn't white. It would never occur to her to do otherwise. She only finds white men attractive and the rest are scarcely human as far as she is concerned." sheeeeeeesh Just how do you come by this knowledge? She has three children with her husband, who is half Eskimo. (Does that make Todd Palin 'Eskimo'? Obama is called Black.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 18 Sep 11 - 06:01 AM Well the media (liberal and otherwise) trashed Princess Diana's account of her marriage told to Andrew Morton. Some journo's actually called Princess Dianne insane and deluded. All turned out to be true though. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,gillymor Date: 18 Sep 11 - 09:21 AM 999, I was just passing along a joke told to me by a self-described "Nubian Princess" but thanks for relating that old saw, I was unfamiliar with it. To me, news of a publicity-hound, corporate shill like Palin should only be carried in the NE and like publications. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,Ebbie Date: 18 Sep 11 - 12:05 PM Hmmmmm Last night I wrote that Palin has *three* children with her husband. Don't know where that came from. There are *five*. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,999 Date: 18 Sep 11 - 12:25 PM "To me, news of a publicity-hound, corporate shill like Palin should only be carried in the NE and like publications." With you 100% on that, Gillymor. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,josepp Date: 18 Sep 11 - 01:36 PM ////sheeeeeeesh Just how do you come by this knowledge? She has three children with her husband, who is half Eskimo.//// Does he look Eskimo? No. There goes your theory. ////(Does that make Todd Palin 'Eskimo'? Obama is called Black.)//// Depends on what you look like--bottom line. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 18 Sep 11 - 01:45 PM Only white? That is a far worse thing to say about her than saying she cheated. And, obviously unfounded... say, isn't that libel? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,josepp Date: 18 Sep 11 - 02:22 PM It is not a worse thing to say than she cheated. Good god, I have no problem with her feeling that way. She has a right to feel that way. She simply isn't the type. But the bottom line is, the book is probably a trick and I urge people not to believe anything in it until an independent and impartial source can prove it. After all, if it was written about you, that's what you would ask of people, isn't it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,Ebbie Date: 18 Sep 11 - 03:08 PM josepp, you say that Todd Palin doesn't *look* Eskimo. Put him in traditional Inuit garb and you might possibly change your opinion. As someone has said, you are titled to your own opinions and biases, but not to your own *facts.* So far as I can tell, your *facts* were born in your own head. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Stringsinger Date: 18 Sep 11 - 05:43 PM You can hear Tom Paxton's great song on YouTube. "First she was for the bridge to nowhere then she wasn't".................. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Stringsinger Date: 18 Sep 11 - 05:45 PM Tom Paxton does it again |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 18 Sep 11 - 06:23 PM Good God? You don't even know if she feels that way. Seriously jo, you need to evaluate your previous posts. That's simply advice and not meant to be nasty. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Don Firth Date: 18 Sep 11 - 09:14 PM Todd Palin His father, a native of Seattle, Washington, is a former general manager of Matanuska Electrical Association. His mother, a former secretary of the Alaska Federation of Natives, is one-quarter Yup'ik, and his maternal grandmother, Helena (Bartman) Andree, is a member of the Curyung tribe. His paternal grandfather, Frederick William Palin, was born in Hartney, Manitoba, Canada in February 1905. In 1982, Palin graduated from Wasilla High School, which is the same alma mater of his wife and their eldest two children, son Track and daughter Bristol. He has taken some college courses but does not have a degree. Palin was a union member and belonged to the United Steel, Paper and Forestry, Rubber, Manufacturing, Energy, Allied Industrial and Service Workers International Union (United Steelworkers). For eighteen years, he worked for BP in the North Slope oil fields of Alaska. In 2007, in order to avoid a conflict of interest that related to his wife's position as governor, he took a leave[12] from his job as production supervisor, when his employer became involved in natural gas pipeline negotiations with his wife's administration. Seven months later, because the family needed more income, Todd returned to BP. In order to avoid potential conflict of interest, this time, he accepted a non-management position as a production operator. He resigned from his job on September 18, 2009, with the stated reason as a desire to spend more time with his family. He is also a commercial salmon fisherman at Bristol Bay on the Nushugak River.Info easily found by Googling. I'd be considerably more interested in looking into the "potential conflict of interest" thing than I am in Todd Palin's lineage. Hell, I'm half Scottish, half Swedish. Some people find that kinda weird (I'm always torn between the haggis and the lutefisk*). *Lutefisk = the piece of Cod that passeth all understanding. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,josepp Date: 18 Sep 11 - 09:26 PM So Todd Palin is 1/8 Alaskan native then. That seems more reasonable. If he was half, why doesn't ANY part of that heritage show up? You'd see...something. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,josepp Date: 18 Sep 11 - 09:29 PM ////Good God? You don't even know if she feels that way.//// Actually, I do. But, as I said, I wasn't attacking for it--just stating a fact. Far be it from me to attack someone for preferring to marry people of their own racial or cultural background. I'd be attacking an awful lot of people in this world. And no, Todd Palin in Inuit garb would only make me laugh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: akenaton Date: 19 Sep 11 - 05:21 AM Thanks to "ringer" for posting this on the "conservative" thread Sarah totally "gets it" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 19 Sep 11 - 06:24 AM Her party wrote more trillion dollar thankyou notes than anyone else. Starting wars in countries no one gives a shit about to say thankyou to the armaments industry. Add to that a lousy record on human rights, and promisory notes to every right wing religious nut on the planet - you've got the reason she needs hitting with every rotten kipper you can throw at her. Good luck with it, for the sake of your country. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,999 Date: 19 Sep 11 - 10:18 AM Ake, get real. She reads the words. There is NO way she actually wrote them. She'd have contradicted herself in the first part of the speech. It's true that she makes Bush seem absolutely erudite, but sayin' a paramecium is brighter than an amoeba really ain't sayin' much. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 19 Sep 11 - 01:40 PM I say paramecium you Sarah Palin... let's call the whole thing off. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 19 Sep 11 - 01:55 PM "////Good God? You don't even know if she feels that way.//// Actually, I do." josepp... Can you prove it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,Ebbie Date: 19 Sep 11 - 03:10 PM I agree- I was wrong. Somehow and where I got the one-half figure. In addition, I'm wrong about his heritage- he is part Yup'ik, not Inuit. Distinct geographical, racial, cultural and historical difference. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: akenaton Date: 20 Sep 11 - 03:35 AM In Scotland, last winter was thecoldest in living memory, in the west, we had temperatures of minus 20......the coldest I remember was minus 12. Getting back to the thread...Nader praises Sarah! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 20 Sep 11 - 05:07 PM Cold enough to freeze a witch's tit? I can't understand any other reason... did I miss sommat? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 20 Sep 11 - 07:55 PM Well Ralph certainly has an eye for the winners.....never known to be wrong. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: akenaton Date: 21 Sep 11 - 03:07 AM I dont think it matters to much who wins what Al, or even the result in 2012.....What is important, is that our respective electorate start to understand what has happened to us economically, why it had to happen, how there is no painless answer and especially why there is no answer at all without systemic change. Unless we are prepared to write off a couple of generations of young people. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,999 Date: 21 Sep 11 - 05:25 AM Well said, Ake. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 21 Sep 11 - 12:34 PM I can remember having conversations like this with marxists in 1979. They said it made no difference who won the election. Tory or Labour, they said, like a choice between a dose of the pox and a dose of the clap.... Good old Mrs Thatcher proved them wrong however, she proved there WERE definitely differences. Its okay saying it makes no difference if you're in a position where it doesn't make all that much difference. But if you're at the bottom of the pile - believe you me, it matters who wins elections. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Richard Bridge Date: 21 Sep 11 - 05:13 PM It also matters if you have a conscience or a brain. There are people here in the UK saying that after Blair/Brown and the current frauds they cannot take a political choice. All that does is give the hucksters a better chance. |
