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Origins: Help To Identify Song?

RTim 23 Sep 11 - 01:08 PM
GUEST,John Moulden 23 Sep 11 - 01:14 PM
RTim 23 Sep 11 - 01:31 PM
RTim 23 Sep 11 - 01:52 PM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 23 Sep 11 - 02:35 PM
Reinhard 23 Sep 11 - 02:37 PM
Reinhard 23 Sep 11 - 02:42 PM
RTim 23 Sep 11 - 03:13 PM
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Subject: Origins: Help To Identify Song?
From: RTim
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 01:08 PM

I am looking for help in identifying a couple of songs. I only have two lines to
go on.
They come from The George Gardiner Collection, and the two lines below appear only
in his original notebook No. 9 Page 109, and seem to be ascribed to Samuel Bull:

"On highland mountains so far away, there dwelt a lovely maid" - Tune Rambling Sailor.

and

"Come all you tender parents where ever you may be"

Does anyone know which songs these lines are from.

Thanks
Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: Origins: Help To Identify Song?
From: GUEST,John Moulden
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 01:14 PM

It's likely that the first is a version of Mary and her gallant soldier, it's in Sam Henry and there are various ballad sheet versions. More if you can't find it. The second is such a common first line form that I wouldn't venture.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Help To Identify Song?
From: RTim
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 01:31 PM

Hi John
I think you have it nailed - Mary and Her Soldier
- do you have a Roud Number for it?
Tim


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Subject: RE: Origins: Help To Identify Song?
From: RTim
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 01:52 PM

I think I have found the Roud No. provided it is a very of The Trooper & The Maid
- Roud 162.

Tim


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Subject: RE: Origins: Help To Identify Song?
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 02:35 PM

Tim

Re: On highland mountains...

If you search the Roud Broadside index there are 14 entries for that as first line with title as Highland Soldier or similar. There is no Roud Number given for the entries, which usually means no collected version known to him. The tune is given (on at least some of them - I didn't check all 14 entries) as The Rambling Sailor.

Having said that I've just redone the index search as a cross-index search and there is one extra entry with Roud No: 2496, collected in Co.Tyrone by James Foley from Tommy Quinn (source: Arts Council of N. Ireland: Harvest Home No.1). There are 16 entries in total for that Roud No.

This should give you the search results: Highland Soldier


Re: Come all you tender parents wherever you may be

The Roud cross-index search gives only 1 entry for that as 1st line: The Little Chimney Sweep, Roud No.1549. (There are 17 entries for that number, not all with exactly same 1st line).

This is the search: Come all you tender parents wherever

Mick


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Subject: RE: Origins: Help To Identify Song?
From: Reinhard
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 02:37 PM

This might also be Roud 2496 "The Gallant Soldier", one version of which starts with "On the lofty mountains far away".

The Traditional Ballad Index has this song as Gallant Soldier, The (Mary/Peggy and the Soldier).


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Subject: RE: Origins: Help To Identify Song?
From: Reinhard
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 02:42 PM

ah, cross posting, sorry


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Subject: RE: Origins: Help To Identify Song?
From: RTim
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 03:13 PM

Thank you all - I did find Roud 1549, and interestingly (at least for me)
a version on the song was collected in the next village to that where Samuel Bull lived!!

Tim


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