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RangerSteve 27 Sep 11 - 02:54 AM
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MGM·Lion 27 Sep 11 - 05:59 AM
GUEST,999 27 Sep 11 - 06:15 AM
Roger the Skiffler 27 Sep 11 - 06:39 AM
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Subject: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: RangerSteve
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 02:54 AM

I start noticing things that are wrong. On Law and Order and its offspring - suspects always seem to have work places or apartments with spectacular views of Manhattan. The writers know nothing of NY geograpy. In one episode, the cops drove to the Canadian border (the scenery suggested around Plattsburg, the extreme northern border) picked up a suspect and got back to NYC on the same workday. The trip, one way, is at least 6 or seven hours. I driven it. When ever there's a college student involved as a criminal or victim, they use the fictitious Hudson University as a setting. I understand not using a real college name, but with three variations of L&O, it seems that once a week, someone at Hudson is killed or raped or arrested. Can't they come up with another fictitious name?

On "Everybody Loves Raymond", if Ray and Deborah are in the kitchen, Ray's parents come to the back door. If R and D are in the living room, the parents come to the front door. How do they know?

"Barney Miller" - the cops never relieve an earlier shift, nor are they relieved by a later shift. It's New York City. I'm sure they have a 24 hour police department.

On any show, where the characters are sitting at a table, no one ever sits on the side closest to the camera. If there are four people, two people will share one side.

The interior of a house rarely matches the exterior. "Raymond" again as an example.

Seinfeld - in one episode, Kramer kidnaps an annoying dog and drops it off in Upstate New York. The dog is seen returning via the Brooklyn Bridge. The BB connects Manhattan with Long Island, not the mainland, but there are no attractive bridges connecting Manhattan to the rest of the state.

I could go on, but I'll let the rest of you add your gripes.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 03:52 AM

Have you also noticed in ' Law and Order ' etc, the suspect ALWAYS confesses when confronted, this never happens in reallity.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: autolycus
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 04:45 AM

from The Bigger Little Book of Hollywood Cliches by Roger Ebert, about 800 of them.

People in movies always undress from the top down. Especially women.

Every time anyone uses a microphone in a movie, it feedbacks.

Every single airport and train waiting room in the movies contains both sailors and nuns.

Dawning Light Moment. The words,"So tha-a-a-t's what this is about" invariably translates as "you're cheating on me with someone else."


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 04:46 AM

Ever see a film or tv play in which someone arriving at their destination failed to find a convenient unrestricted parking space right outside the entrance to the building they intended to visit?

Ah, if only! ·····

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 05:59 AM

And all the anachronisms in period stuff ~~

Watching recent reruns of The House of Elliot, setting the 1920s, in which characters state their intention to go and see 'musicals' ~ they would have been 'musical comedies' at the time; and get 'cheesed off', a 1930s onwards usage {Partridge}.

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching any TV
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 06:15 AM

is that yer brains rot.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 06:39 AM

I only saw a couple of episodes of Sex in the City,but I thought Sarah Jessica Parker had begun to look like a drag queen...and she always wore more in bed in her, presumably centrally heated, apartment than she did in the middle of Manhatten in the small hours of the morning.

RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 06:48 AM

However, that aside, without TV I would be unaware that Canada will be allowing incarcerated individuals to serve their prison time via computer. The cash savings will be astronomical. The Correctional Officers' Association has gone ballistic, and the various contracts awarded to companies for the construction of modern 'correctional' facilities are now in question.

This new program will provide opportunities for hackers to free their friends while increasing the sentences of people who were mean to them in grade school. Government officials have assured the public that the computer systems involved are as safe as putting "money in the bank."

The bill will be brought before parliament in 2012.

Special thanks are due 'The Onion' for this perspicacious, bold and innovative idea.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Wesley S
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 08:00 AM

Between the movies and TV I never knew that two people { one male and one female of course } who couldn't stand each other and had nothing in common - could lock eyes for a moment and end up in a kiss.

And everyone on TV and in the movies looks fabulous { but a little rumpled } when they wake up in the morning.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 08:21 AM

It can be so depressing through the week with gloom and impending doom and mind numbing at the weekend with Omnibus length soaps and not much else.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 08:57 AM

See 999's first comment.

Also, on the "survivor" shows -- doesn't anyone realize that there is a whole camera crew and rescue operation behind that Man Alone Against The Wilderness?

And I love some history shows:

Grunt, groan, We're the first people in 10,000 years to enter this part of the cave! This is said as the camera records them entering that part of the cave.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 09:31 AM

And only in American films can people have sex fully dressed.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Stringsinger
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 09:53 AM

T.V. script writing is made to be compressed for time slots that are open for selling advertisements which interfere with any dramatic continuity and reduce the shows to
banal Punch and Judy cut-out casts. Even the good David Kelly shows don't have the impact of good theater or a great motion picture, although the subject matter is often relevant and "hip".

T.V. is a kind of drug, an addiction that pulls you in when you should be doing other things. It's only value is in it's alternative news coverage such as Amy Goodman, Thom Hartmann, Keith Olbermann and Al Jazeera.

When you have a medium whose raison d'etre is to sell products, you can't expect great art to ensue.

The problem with watching too much TV is that the watcher allows other people to do their thinking for them by their "willing suspension of disbelief" that influences subconsciously.

TV drama or sit-com is not much more than reading a comic book as opposed to a well-written literary novel or journalistic essay.

TV has denigrated folk music for the most part, even the warmed-over informational programs on PBS which caters to the public's interest pattern rather than presenting necessary factual material.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 10:29 AM

I haven't checked recently, but in the past some of the "soaps" actually did slice-n-dice the plots so that they could include all the plot development necessary. When a friend, who was a real fanatic about one of them, was sent out of town on business, he lamented that he'd miss learning whether the pregnant character would deliver a boy or a girl, but when he returned 17 months later she was still pregnant, so he didn't miss a thing. (And since he insisted that his "roomie" record the soap while he was gone he had the tapes to prove it.)

John


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Becca72
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 12:13 PM

"On any show, where the characters are sitting at a table, no one ever sits on the side closest to the camera. If there are four people, two people will share one side."



One side of the table


Surely it's the same rule as in a play - no one should have their back to the audience...


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: RangerSteve
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 01:06 PM

MtheGM - I loved House of Elliot. One the the great things about British TV here in the U.S. is that any anachronisms probably won't be noticed by us.

Another thing about soaps - my roomate was a fan of All My Children, so I saw a few episodes. In one scene, a female character was lying in a hospital bed with a bandaid on her forehead. My friend explained that she was the victim of an attempted murder, someone had dropped a cinder block on her head. Because she was beautiful, wrapping her head in bandages was out of the question.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 01:20 PM

I've spared myself all of this by not watching TV since the early 90s. The computer, on the other hand, has had me struggling in its little electronic grasp for years... ;-)

One pointless behavioral addiction has been replaced by another! (kind of like when I quit drinking coke at age 21 and took up coffee)(much later I quit coffee too...took up posting on Mudcat!)


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Will Fly
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 01:27 PM

Got Freeview (UK free digital box) in a new TV. More channels than ever before available. Less TV than ever watched.

Because of: soaps, docusoaps, makeovers, cookery programmes, talent shows, quiz shows, antiques programmes, home improvement programmes, gardening programmes, crime series, reality shows, blah blah blah...


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: olddude
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 01:30 PM

watching too much TV make ya horney .... I am teasing geeze no sense of humor


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 02:43 PM

Little Hawk, I'm fascinated that you don't watch TV. Wish I could do the same, but my husband likes to watch it, and I sit with him! Do you find that people's conversations revolve around TV programmes, and do you feel a bit left out? And what about historical moments such as the Chilean miners' rescue, Presidential elections, Royal weddings etc. Don't you like to see them as they happen? I must say, usually I'd prefer to read (mostly non-fiction), sew, paint or knit.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 04:17 PM

Eliza - It started when I was just a kid (in the 1950s and early 60s)...my father was opposed to television for some reason (I suspect that he thought it would waste time...he was the kind of man who always wanted to be doing something productive...a workaholic, in other words). So he was absolutely against having a TV in the house, and my mother didn't really care at that point, so we had NO TV in the house until I was about 18 years old!!!!!!!   We also had no cigarettes in the house, again due to my father's wishes. This was truly incredible, given the nature of the society all around us, but that was how it was. Everyone else lived a large part of their lives watching TV and smoking tobacco, and we didn't. Yeah, I was constantly hearing people discussing TV shows I had never even seen (although I occasionally saw a wee bit of one at some friend's place).

What I did with my time instead of watching TV was I read books and played outside. We also listened to CBC radio (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) which is Canada's national radio show. It was programming without commercial advertising, and it had a lot of interesting music and conversational shows that you would not find on commercial radio stations.

This made for a very unconventional childhood, one free of most mainstream marketing propaganda, and it has resulted in me consciously being an "outsider" from the social mainstream for the rest of my life. I was a lot more serious than most other children, I was more interested in adult stuff, and I read a ton of books as a kid, mostly what could be termed "British literature". I read a lot of adult-level books when I was young.

We finally got a TV when I was 18, and I watched a fair bit of it in my early 20s, but not a lot of it after that except when living with this or that girlfriend who wanted to watch TV regularly.

I don't know if I feel "left out" when other people discuss TV programs...not really...but I do feel left out when they can't be bothered to talk about philosophy or spiritual evolution or cultural norms or history! ;-D

I also grew up entirely without religion. We went to no church and we believed in nothing spiritual or religious. My dad was an engineer, and both my parents were atheists. I later got very interested in spirituality, and I'd say it's my number one interest now, but that has little or nothing to do with belonging to an organized religion....unless you want to...in which case, fine with me. ;-)

What about viewing historical moments? Well, if it's something really overwhelming, yeah, I might look at it on TV, but I'm far more likely to look it up on the Internet or read the daily paper to find out about it.

What I like to do is this: Question and re-examine absolutely EVERYTHING I've been taught to believe and do by parents/teachers/culture/government/etc since I was a child. I mean EVERYTHING. Look at it all with a fresh perspective. Decide whether it makes any sense and whether it's worth believing in and acting on. A great deal of it makes little or no sense and is in fact arbitrary. A good deal of it is downright harmful, in my opinion. There are many possible alternatives to the standard approaches.

Take nothing for granted. Think for yourself. Consider the possibility of a completely different take on things than the conventional or popular one of your time. Try out different ideas. Realize that much of what you "believe" could be wrong...or just foolish...and try to keep evolving into a better understanding of who you REALLY are...rather than who everyone else is telling you you should be.

Freedom. That's what I want. Freedom to become who I truly am. And who I am is subject to change...if I'm willing to change. If I'm not, then time and circumstance will eventually change me anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: autolycus
Date: 28 Sep 11 - 09:10 AM

"Got Freeview (UK free digital box) in a new TV. More channels than ever before available. Less TV than ever watched.

"Because of: soaps, docusoaps, makeovers, cookery programmes, talent shows, quiz shows, antiques programmes, home improvement programmes, gardening programmes, crime series, reality shows, blah blah blah..."



That's the odd outcome of the Western World's [foisted?] demand for more and more choice. Well, we've got plenty of choice.

It's a funny old do.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 28 Sep 11 - 09:35 AM

RangerSteve ~~Wasn't saying a word against The House Of Elliot ~ we loved it too, & are enjoying the reruns. Just pointing out one or two minor continuity or anachronism blips which make tiny little contusions on its otherwise perfect surface.

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 28 Sep 11 - 01:39 PM

Little Hawk, I admire you very much for having the courage to question and re-evaluate all tenets handed down to you over your life. A bit like Jonathan Livingstone Seagull! But I'm also wondering if this approach isolates you a little from others. Not many people in my (admittedly limited) experience are as philosophical and analytical as you, and sometimes you must I'm sure feel there aren't many people in your 'tribe'. I have been similarly engaged during most of my life, even as a child I didn't see the point or the validity of much of what 'the others' did or said. I wasn't rebellious, but questioned inside whether what I was told to think or do was worthy. To get back to this thread, I feel much of what is presented on TV is wonky to say the least. I often don't feel I can relate to it. That's why I only watch documentaries, geographical or science progs etc. I marvel that literally millions of folk are enchanted by the soaps, reality shows etc and I feel quite lonely, as they mean nothing to me!


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: gnu
Date: 28 Sep 11 - 01:45 PM

LH... "My dad was an engineer..."

So THAT'S what happened!

gnu, M.Sc.Eng., P.Eng. (I understand... poor boy.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Sep 11 - 01:56 PM

Yes, exactly like Jonathan Livingston Seagull. And I was re-reading that book just a couple of weeks ago.

It has isolated me some from other people. I was an only child, and I became accustomed early to being alone, so the isolation doesn't trouble me much. The way I've dealt with it is mostly by acquiring friends with similar interests, namely music and spirituality. While there are relatively few people around I can connect with on the spirituality thing, there are actually more of them out there than you might think....you just don't notice them, because they don't show any outward signs of it. I frequently encounter people who are quietly studying the same things I am, maybe I see them reading a book I've been reading or it just comes up in conversation.

I don't feel I can relate to most of the stuff that's on TV either...or at least I don't particularly want to...but there are some worthwhile programs there, of course, if you take the time to search them out. I decided to just quit on the whole thing rather than get hijacked by the "idiot box" any longer....but now I find myself hijacked by the computer! ;-D So I still have a great deal to learn about not getting hijacked and distracted, that's for sure.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Sep 11 - 03:45 PM

i see even the 100 million dollar movies need better continuity editors.
When scenes are flimed, far too often the latter scenes do not reflect the prior scene with accuracy or believablity.

TV is not always a mindless endeavor. It depends upon how and what you use.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Sep 11 - 04:27 PM

" ..that Man Alone Against The Wilderness?"

Rap... there are two of those. One makes the point..often... that there IS no camera crew with him. He carries his own cameras. (He does have some preparations for extreme emergency, but in several episodes they had trouble finding him, even with no emergency.)

The other is that British guy who doesn't pick up a stick until the camera crew gets a good angle! I think they film leaping across rushing waterfalls several times until it looks unstaged..(ahh...Bear Grylls)"In some of the earlier episodes, Man vs. Wild / Born Survivor was criticized by some sources for misleading viewers about some of the situations in which Grylls finds himself. Discovery and Channel 4 television subsequently pledged production and editing transparency and clarification related to the criticism."

I object to the one called "Manhunter", in which a team of two on foot tries to elude Manhunter and his partner on horses and get to a designated finish line. Camera crews follow BOTH teams, and the 2 who are on the run, trying to hide in the bushes, are being filmed by crews who, presumably, are NOT hiding in the bushes.

"Hey Mike...let's cut down this gully, I think I see the sun glinting off a camera lens."


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 28 Sep 11 - 05:45 PM

Little Hawk, you give me hope that perhaps there are a few others who tend to 'walk by themselves'. Many years ago one of my friends, who was a bit like me, used to call us the Refuseniks! I sometimes get paranoid and wonder if the Government tries to influence the population by the content of TV programmes. Look at all the 'food' programmes, how to cook wholesome meals, how not to become obese, etc. There seems to be dozens of these all of a sudden. You're right about the computer, one can easily get slightly addicted to it. One can also get too 'involved', treating it as real life and not 'virtual'. I foolishly got upset when a certain poster on Mudcat seemed to find me unacceptable for some reason, and his/her comments were removed by the site-master. It was silly of me to mind, because that person exists only on a screen, I'll never meet them and they can't harm me. TV is rather like that. I often see articles in newspapers discussing characters in soaps as if they really exist. I think some folk live in the 'virtual world' and not in the real one!


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Sep 11 - 06:08 PM

There's a chance, Eliza, that even the "real" world we take for granted is in truth a virtual world which we are caught up in because we fully believe it's real. In any case, there's no point letting one's emotions get hijacked by other people's negative opinions of oneself...whether it's on a computer screen or in "real" life. Every time that kind of situation arises, it's another opportunity to learn how not to give your power away by getting sucked into the usual defensive reactions.

There are plenty of people out there who are learning to walk by themselves, as you put it, and I mean in a loving way. Most of them live quiet lives and go quite unnoticed.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: RangerSteve
Date: 28 Sep 11 - 09:55 PM

Another Law and Order gripe - When the detectives are questioning suspects, and they're not in a police station, the suspects seem to be able to brush the cops off to easily.
Cop: Where were you last night?
Susp: Here.
Cop: do you have any witnesses?
Susp: I don't have time for this. (closes door on cop)

And the detectives let it go at that.

Oh, according to L&O, there are only about a dozen working detectives in all of New York City. And only 3 Asst. District Attorneys.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Sep 11 - 11:24 PM

And not a single chimp private detective! New York loses out to Chicago on that one.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: autolycus
Date: 29 Sep 11 - 04:12 AM

"The problem with watching too much TV"

There are many.

One is that watching much, never mind too much, stops you from reading all the books you'll ever want to, hearing all the music ditto, ditto plays, ditto films, ditto art, ditto visiting all the place it's viable to go to, ditto meeting people and seeing friends and relations, ditto learning languages,........need I go on?

Music is my biggest thing, and, amongst much other stuff, I've begun making a speciality for myself of classical music by composers of Jewish descent. Just getting some layman-style expertise in that small part of the long list above seems a long way off; there's just so much. Some of the composers i've found wrote a lot. I'm trying to hear it all. Eventually.

I too learnt about questioning when doing a philosophy degree. One of my teachers once said, "To a good philosopher, nothing is obvious."

Except that it's obvious to me th't there's so much to do in the way of books, films etc.etc.as above that TV doesn't get much time unless it has something more important or enjoyable than any of the alternatives.

In my selling days I heard the line [to keep us working in the evenings] "TV is just watching other people being be successful."


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 29 Sep 11 - 04:36 AM

Exactly, autolycus. It's a 'spectator sport'. Like watching a football game on TV, surely it's better for a man to actually play in a match than watch others having the pleasure! You're right, TV takes up time we could spend doing things ourselves. But it can add to those pleasures. For example, I adore gardening and grow all sorts of things. It gives me exercise, fresh air and much pleasure. But I do watch one or two gardening programmes, and I get ideas, inspiration and tips from them.
Little Hawk, you're so right! I found I could 'get over' the rather insulting remarks by that poster with a bit of sensible thought and grounding. It WAS valuable and taught me quite a bit about being strong in oneself. Actually, most adversities, though horrendous at the time, teach us things and strengthen our defences.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 29 Sep 11 - 09:07 AM

I have poor vision and suffered from migraines for many years. I also hate TV and movies.

When most people talk about TV and movies, they talk about the content. Me, they bother me because of their electronic form. I can't handle the flashing, the going-too-fast and the loud noises. (Try closing your eyes sometime while watching TV and notice the erratic blasts of light that can be seen right through your eyelids.)

Recently my husband wanted me to watch a Fred Astaire movie with him. Hardly a violent form. But I noticed after a while that I was holding my breath for long periods of time and finally letting go in long, shuddering sighs. This is a characteristic of somebody in stress. So I quit watching and told my husband to let me know if it ended happily or not.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 29 Sep 11 - 09:47 AM

It's a 'spectator sport'. Like watching a football game on TV, surely it's better for a man to actually play in a match than watch others having the pleasure! ~~~~~

Indeed, Eliza ~ for young men. When I was 18 I used to play football regularly, for my school, youth club... Tennis & table tennis likewise.

Now I am nearly 80, it's nice to have the telly to watch the young men doing it in their turn ~ & working myself up remembering how much better I used to do it all...

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: melodeonboy
Date: 29 Sep 11 - 10:33 AM

Here's a song by Bruce Springsteen that sums it up nicely!

57 CHANNELS AND NOTHIN' ON

I bought a bourgeois house in the Hollywood hills
With a truckload of hundred thousand dollar bills
Man came by to hook up my cable TV
We settled in for the night my baby and me
We switched 'round and 'round 'til half-past dawn
There was fifty-seven channels and nothin' on

Well now home entertainment was my baby's wish
So I hopped into town for a satellite dish
I tied it to the top of my Japanese car
I came home and I pointed it out into the stars
A message came back from the great beyond
There's fifty-seven channels and nothin' on

Well we might'a made some friends with some billionaires
We might'a got all nice and friendly
If we'd made it upstairs
All I got was a note that said "Bye-bye John
Our love is fifty-seven channels and nothin' on"

So I bought a .44 magnum it was solid steel cast
And in the blessed name of Elvis well I just let it blast
'Til my TV lay in pieces there at my feet
And they busted me for disturbin' the almighty peace
Judge said "What you got in your defense son?"
"Fifty-seven channels and nothin' on"
I can see by your eyes friend you're just about gone
Fifty-seven channels and nothin' on...
Fifty-seven channels and nothin'


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Sep 11 - 11:27 AM

Right on, Bruce!

The thing I like about the computer, unlike the TV, is that I'm a participant on the computer. I provide input and express myself. In the case of the TV, I'm just a passive sponge sitting there and receiving stuff. I think that tends to produce a passive population who just sit there and watch...but never do anything themselves.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 29 Sep 11 - 12:25 PM

Thanks for the song, melodeon boy. It's all so true.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 29 Sep 11 - 02:25 PM

My old dad used to watch Rugby on TV, having been a keen player when young. He bellowed and cursed, stood up and sat down, cheered and hurrahed until he nearly drove my poor mum mad. This was in his late seventies. I like watching the showjumping occasionally, as I used to adore riding as a girl. But as you say, MtheGM, younger men should be doing not watching!


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 29 Sep 11 - 04:19 PM

It's okay for a while. Young people can get tired or overwhelmed and feel the need to 'veg out'.

TV can effect people in other ways. Here's an example. When our marriage was new, my husband's father kept making digs at me. I can't remember them now, but I definitely got the message he disliked me. I mentioned this to my husband, who talked to him. Turned out he was repeating so-called humor from TV shows he'd been watching.

He quit doing it, and we've been friendly ever since.

When people, especially young ones, suddenly start doing something dumb like wearing loafers without socks, maintaining three-days' growth of scratchy beard, or hanging their arms out the car door, we suspect somebody's doing it on prime-time TV and they are mimicking it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 29 Sep 11 - 05:26 PM

Eliza ~ Or, at any event, playing *as well as* watching. No harm watching some evening matches when they wouldn't be playing anyhow; and probably good to note some techniques from the professionals to improve their own game*. But certainly not to the exclusion of playing themselves, if good enough to get into a team: which, however, not all of them will be, of course.

~Michael~

*{though not the shirt-tugging and other such charming habits which are ruining the game these days; and which used not to happen ~ & that is not just old man's nostalgia}


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 12:59 PM

The one night I watch TV, I sit there and watch all the laws and orderses and CSIs and Bones' and all of those dead-body shows. I have unfortunately figured something out (spoiler alert):







Whoever has a line that doesn't further the plot, but rather develops character, is always the perp.

Think it's the parents who did it? Well, if a kid walks in and asks for something and then walks out, it's the kid. When the gaggle of cheerleaders are questioned, it's the one who has the line about her life. And so on.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: gnu
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 01:50 PM

"& working myself up remembering how much better I used to do it all..."

Hahahahahaa! I know what you mean.


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Subject: RE: BS: The problem with watching too much TV
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 02:42 PM

leeneia, it's true. People copy folk on TV and regard the characters portrayed as if they are part of their own extended family. It's odd that a whole bunch of strange folk on the small screen have an influence on dress, manners, attitudes, morals and much else. Don't the viewers appreciate that it's FICTION? I've seen articles where great concern is expressed for, say, a potential suicide in a soap, as if the poor lass lives up the road. Very weird to those of us who don't get wrapped up in these things!


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