Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5

Subject: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: evansakes
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 04:55 AM

Starts tonight....but only on BBC2 Scotland for the moment.

Here's the details for Episode One

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Episode 1 of 6, Series 5
DURATION: 30 MINUTES
Transatlantic Sessions once again brings together the best of Nashville, Ireland and Scotland in an award-winning format that affords, in the words of one critic, a unique insight into the sheer joy of making music.
Recorded in a beautiful old hunting lodge at the entrance to Glen Lyon near Aberfeldy in the Perthshire Highlands, top vocal and instrumental exponents of the Country and Celtic traditions gathered to rehearse and play together with no audience except themselves and a resident house-band of their peers. As with previous series, music co-directors were Nashville's Jerry Douglas and Shetland's Aly Bain.
Leavening the intimacy of the music-making through each of the six programmes in the series is a strong element of spectacular Highland scenic photography while this time around a greater emphasis on informal backstage conversations and stories serves to highlight the series genuinely historic qualities of collaboration and performance.

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Episode Guide

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 05:18 AM

Which reminds me that ALL of the series including the 'lost' series 1 are all on TheBox.bz I expect series 5 will soon follow.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Will Fly
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 05:21 AM

Wonder if there'll be any English musicians in the series... nah - too much to hope for.

I have all the previous series on disc and love 'em to death - but I do wish the handle "Transatlantic" wasn't so biased. It isn't as though all the music was pure folk music anyway - much of it is material composed by the artists.

Anyway, I'll look forward to seeing the new set.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: doc.tom
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 05:45 AM

ALL of the series... are WHERE?

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Peter C
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 06:52 AM

I complained today to the BBC about it only being on BBC Scotland, but am not holding my breath! Apparently the DVD will be available in December

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: terrier
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 06:52 AM

I thought there were English, Irish and Scots musicians in all the series? I don't remember seeing any welsh musicians though.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 07:17 AM

If you have Freesat, you can receive BBC2 Scotland wherever in the UK you happen to be.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Frank Lee
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 07:29 AM

Will Fly wrote:- 'Wonder if there'll be any English musicians in the series... nah - too much to hope for'.

Dead right!   They claim it'll be a mixture of American, Scots, and Irish.

I've travelled the world a fair bit in the last 30 years and folks look astonished when I tell them I don't (to my knowledge) play Irish music, even though I'm English. They simply look puzzled if I tell them I play English music.
Moreover, the assumption is made that everything I play MUST be Irish, because I'm English (makes sense doesn't it?), it's just that I play Irish music they've never heard before!

There's a PhD in this I'm sure, and I expect this has been discussed at length here in the past. The Irish/Scottish 'folk industry' - an oxymoron IMHO if ever there was one - probably has too much at stake to admit there's other folk music within these shores.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Commander Crabbe
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 07:30 AM

doc.tom

Here: TheBox.bz

CC

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,matt milton
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 07:53 AM

"I complained today to the BBC about it only being on BBC Scotland, but am not holding my breath! Apparently the DVD will be available in December"

BBC Scotland stuff is put up on iPlayer though, no? I watched all of the "World Accordion to Phil" series (presented by accordionist Phil Cuningham) on iPlayer, and that was a BBC Scotland-only programme.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: doc.tom
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 08:00 AM

Thanks Commander

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: evansakes
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 12:24 PM

Danny Thompson is English....and he's been in it since the first series.

But that's not the point for me. As I see it the programmes have always been a celebration of the results when Celtic music was transplanted by the Irish and Scottish emigrants and subsequently adapted into something quite different but essentially the same (bluegrass, country). The programmes were devised, commissioned, produced and filmed north of the border so it's hardly a surprise that they get broadcast there first. I'm sure they'll get a nationwide airing within the next few months (presumably on BBC4)

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 12:40 PM

Good point re ENlgish music. I would like to see and hear more. I am not too aware of English immigrant groups to U.S. other than Cornish. Was there much immigration after early colonial days? Did people tend to go to Canada instead perhaps? What were the patterns? Obviously they could assimilate very easily due to language etc. I would think post-colonial there might have been unpleasantness towards them but I don't know. I can think of towns in my home state that have a Welsh or German or Dutch orientation, but I can't think of English..of course north in Canada Victoria is famously British...I don't know..how much immigration was there, where did they go, what did they do..where are they now? I know a lot came to the early colonies like Virginia, many many as indentured servants. mg

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Brit
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 12:59 PM

The English were the majority, particularly in the years after the ending of the Napoleonic Wars - see Charlotte Erickson's 'Invisible Immigrants', for example. Although the Breitish government preferred em,igrants to go to Canada, huge numbers went to the United States.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 03:01 PM

20.01 hours on Orkney. It has just finished. It was superb and should be broadcast nationally.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 03:06 PM

Superb.
Can't wait to see Alison Krauss & Union Station in November in Birmingham. And hopefully another 'Transatlantic Sessions Live' tour in the new year?

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 03:09 PM

sorry to..ummm..rain on the parades of the Anglos and Anglophiles, but the point to this series was and is the interaction between Scots, I rish, American, and yes, even Canadians got involved (The McGarrigle sisters with Kate's children, Martha and Rufus Wainwright is incredble to watch)Kate & Anna McGarrigle - Hard Times Come Again No More

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 03:12 PM

sorry to..ummm..rain on the parades of the Anglos and Anglophiles, but the point to this series was and is the interaction between Scots, I rish, American, and yes, even Canadians ..............

And the point is?

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 03:13 PM

Well, hidden within your American subgroup above, there had to have been a lot of English-origened people. We do speak their language, with a Dutch accent it is claimed. mg

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 03:23 PM

"American subgroup"...Canadians will not thank you for that
and my point is. We have an incredible series of series happening and the English tradition is not directly involved

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 03:24 PM

PS there's alot of the Transatlantic Sessions available on You Tube

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Commander Crabbe
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 10:01 PM

If you missed it and have access to Sky Player you can watch it there.

CC

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: evansakes
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 02:58 AM

Blissful telly....as ever. I think the location this time was the same as the previous series...and thy haven't changed the formula one bit (but then again why would they?).

It's now on the BBC iplayer at that link in the first post above.

ps Great to see Eric Bibb is one of the guests this year....is he the first Afro American to feature on Transatlantic Sessions?

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: LesB
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 03:30 AM

Thanks for the link to the box.biz but unfortunately it goes straight to a login page, with no other info on it. So can anyone tell me what the box is?
Cheers
Les

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,The Lamenting Whelk
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 04:10 AM

I love the Transatlantic Sessions, but the bias against Welsh and English artists is more of a political anachronism than because of any genuine musical differences; all the traditions of our islands are interconnected whether the supporters of some outdated folk apartheid like it or not.

Here's an excellent article on the subject by Irish musician Toner Quinn:

Toner Quinn - What About England?

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Will Fly
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 04:30 AM

Thanks for the article by Toner Quinn - he sums the situation up beautifully.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 07:03 AM

Just as the folk music of England has many regional variations within it, at the same time it has a great deal in common with the music of its neighbours. I can't believe that the English emigrants didn't take any songs with them. Perhaps the Cecil Sharp Project - touring England and Scotland in January - will shed some light on this. Folk music in Wales has had a profile perhaps even lower than folk music in England, so I was stunned to hear the Welsh group Calan earlier this year.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: bubblyrat
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 09:35 AM

I LOVE the TS programmes , and now play "Shove The Pig's Foot etc " ,and other tunes as a result, but I ,too , fear that the time when someone from Sussex appears , playing Scan Tester tunes on English concertina, or Rob Murch plays "Jacob or Enrico" on his banjo , is a long way off !!
      Still , that's the bias of the programme-makers against English music for you ( the bastards !!).

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Edthefolkie
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 11:45 AM

During the last series Danny Thompson made a humorous aside about feeling a bit lonely. I can see his point!

I guess as RTE put a lot of money into the programme, and since nobody has coughed up any cash for an equivalent involving a few more people from south of the Tweed, we're stuck with it. Not that it's not brilliant of course, just that it's not enough.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: TopcatBanjo
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 12:10 PM

Here's the direct link to Episode 1 on iPlayer as there seems to be some confusion in the posts above.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b015frjm/Transatlantic_Sessions_Series_5_Episode_1

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 12:48 PM

I downloaded the wmv file from the iplayer and so far it is converting to DVD compliant VOB format in SUPER © - never used to be able to do this without a clever little programme, and for the last year or so not at all!!!

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 04:50 PM

No, it failed again.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Commander Crabbe
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 06:26 PM

Blicky for the above link

Transatlantic Sessions Episode 1

CC

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Stanron
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 10:16 PM

I have enjoyed all of the Transatlantic Sessions programs I've seen on BBC 4. Any chance to see Aly Baine and Jerry Douglas playing on TV is welcome.

It has also been obvious from the outset that there is a strong anti English bias to the program. This has not stopped me enjoying what I actually got. Obviously Danny Thompson is English, but his role is in accompanying rather than playing a lead role.

Have I seen one of the Lakeman brothers on the prog? Maybe being Cornish absolves him of his Englishness.

Michael McGoldrick and Dessie Donnelley are from Irish descent but were they born in Manchester? I don't know. Could they actually be English?

We all know that the Irish and the Scottish hate the English. The political heritage of the last 2 millennia is unavoidable. None of us actually are responsible for any of it but we all seem to keep on dramatising it.

There are some fine traditional musicians in England. Perhaps we should make our own programs.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Effsee
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 10:34 PM

Stanron..."We all know that the Irish and the Scottish hate the English. The political heritage of the last 2 millennia is unavoidable."...that's one helluva sweeping statement!

I'm a Scots born chappie, with both Irish and English genes so I take offence at such a statement!

I've sung all genres of British folk music in various clubs world-wide, and find that comment quite uncalled for.

The Transatlantic Sessions are exactly what they are...by definition.

The programme is produced by a combination of Scots/Irish companies...what do you expect?

..."There are some fine traditional musicians in England. Perhaps we should make our own programs."... Agreed! So why doesn't the format appeal to English TV producers?

Personally, I enjoy the ensemble playing very much, but I wouldn't expect to see it in any folk club soon, too many performers, but the show they take on the road for concerts are very well attended I believe.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Stanron
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 10:53 PM

It might be a sweeping statement, but might it not also be correct?

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Effsee
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 11:14 PM

Absolutely not...the idea of a population of one nation hating the population of another is absurd. My aunt died of malnutrition in a Japanes prison camp...am I to hate the whole Japanes nation ?

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Stanron
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 11:23 PM

I hope not. But explain to me why lots of wonderful English folk musicians never appear on these programs.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: michaelr
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 02:31 AM

Anti-English bias? What nonsense. As was explained before, the series explores the connections between Scots/Irish and American music. `Nuff said.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Tradsinger
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 03:19 AM

But the series perpetuates the myth that all American music is derived from Irish and Scottish music,which is certainly not the case. Americans like to see their folk/country/old timey music as all coming from Ireland and Scotland, and so American music gets this dubious 'Celtic' label. It is not surprising that the Transatlantic sessions musicians can blend their music; after all they are top musicians and ought to be able to. I would like to see some Trans North Sea sessions, where Shetland fiddle players got together with top Swedish/Norwegian musicians. After all, their music has a lot in common. It's all an anti-English musical conspiracy!

Rant over.

Tradsinger

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: evansakes
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 07:11 AM

"It's all an anti-English musical conspiracy!"

Anglo and celtic music are essentially separate traditions. This is 'apples and oranges'. Both taste fine but they're not the same. This programme concentrates on the celtic music links and it's funded and made by them. Not much point trying to fit square pegs into round holes. There's no bias and no conspiracy. Let's all get over it and move on. Be grateful and acknowledge the series for all the good things it IS rather than things it isn't even trying to be.

Why not concentrate instead on lobbying to get something similar set up which properly investigate and celebrates English musical links with the Americas? I'd be interested to see a series like that as would most other followers of folk music...maybe the EFDSS should use some of their Arts Council funding to try to make it happen.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BanjoRay
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 07:23 AM

If the included brass bands and morris music I'd probably stop watching.....(leaves hastily)

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Ian Burdon
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 10:00 AM

Stanron, rants work better if they don't contain duff information. Pedantic, maybe, but Sam Lakeman *has* been on Transatlantic Sessions - Season 3. You'll find it on YouTube - for example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PZDD_Zt6MA

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 10:36 AM

Aren't the Lakeman brothers from Devon, not Cornwall?

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 10:50 AM

The Lakeman Brothers originate from the village of Buckland Monachorum, near Yelverton, Devon (this info courtesy of a little bit of Googling)

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: The Maverick
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 12:39 PM

Would be better without the Americans IMHO!

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Will Fly
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 12:52 PM

Would be better without the Americans IMHO!

Mmmm... well, I've watched the first programme on the iPlayer and have to say that the highlight for me was the penultimate song, played by US banjoist and mandolinist Dirk Powell and Sam Bush - "Boats Up The River", with some fine Uillean piping to boot.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Tradsinger
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 01:41 PM

TwickFolk wrote:

Anglo and celtic music are essentially separate traditions. This is 'apples and oranges'.

I can't accept that, I am afraid. There is no such thing as a Pan-Celtic music style that binds all 'Celtic' areas together. The nearest musical tradition to Irish and Scottish is, in fact, English, in terms of reportoire, style, stepping, etc, so there is a strong cultural link. Elements of all of these cultures crossed the Atlantic and formed the varied American folklore that we have today. But we are doing a disservice to folk music if we continue to perpetrate the American-Celtic myth.

I won't post any more on this subject as I am sure it will generate more heat than light.

Tradsinger

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Auldtimer
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 03:16 PM

Was it just me or was the sound a bit off. What I was listening to just did not seem to be what was being played. Other wise it was all good, Big Edna included, although she went off on her own with her hands flaping.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 03:26 PM

For those of you with Sky you can watch it, it doesn't matter where you live as all the regional BBC channels are available even though you'll probably be tuned to your local station.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: mg
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 04:22 PM

I have never thought of American Music as being basically Irish and Scottish..or pan-Celtic. I think it most undoubtedly has huge English roots, as that is the language that was settled on and as you enforce the speaking of English only in schools, only English songs would be sung, in addition to bad translations of Funiculi Funicula. With an occasional French song thrown in.

German songs were probably somewhat suppressed in WWI. Some town in the midwest had tunnels for German-Americans to get about in as they were so discriminated against in that time.

Certainly huge African and Carribean influence.

Some big pockets of Scandinavian music that still exist.

Spanish.

French.

Melungeon influence huge but unrecognized..read up on old-time and Melungeon music. Appalachain music in general. It does not sound Scottish or Scots-Irish (never quite sure what that is) to me. Sounds totally distinct with Arabic influences, and they claim history in Turkey and Portugal.

I actually don't think of this mountain music as The American Music. It is part of the overall picture. Lots of stuff was music hall and parlor music..some Irish, some Hebrew/Yiddish.
Cowboy..I presume Irish, African-American, Spanish all influenced.

Poles and Czechs...most of us did not speak their language..but we still like the polkas and other instrumental music.

But I would side with people who do believe that their is either ignorance about English music or some bias against it. Some of what we sing without thinking too much about is quite insulting to the English and they certainly are not individually responsible for all the woes of the world..they were serfs and conscriptees and coal miners and factory workers and did not have much to say about how their nation was conducting its business...mg

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 04:39 PM

I have never understood why people need to pigeonhole folk music. All I know is that a lot of so called Celtic folk music can be just as mind numbingly boring as a lot of English and USAian folk music. And yet I have never found any Argentine folklore music to at all boring!!!

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: ChrisJBrady
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 04:55 PM

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Bonzo3legs - PM
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 12:48 PM

I downloaded the wmv file from the iplayer and so far it is converting to DVD compliant VOB format in SUPER © - never used to be able to do this without a clever little programme, and for the last year or so not at all!!!

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But this failed .....

Unfortunately any official download from the iPlayer web pages also comes with DRM which time-life's the file for about 30 days. Then it gets deleted from your hard drive, or the file wont unscramble when played. Either way after 30-days the file is unwatchable and is simply wasting space.

Within the 30 days though you can watch the programme. The sound track can be recorded with Audacity using 'Stereo Mix' then saved in FLAC, WAV, or MP3 format.

The video and audio can be captured by a 'screen scrapeing' app. such as one from NCH or Applian. This basically records the data from the graphics card that is mirrored on the screen.

You'll need a fast and rock steady broadband connection for this.

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Or you can use Get_iPLayer which downloads the raw file from the iPLayer server in WMV format sans DRM.

From overseas you'll need to set up a VPN with ExpatShield first.

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Or you can try GetFLV or StreamTransport. I have better luck with GetFLV.

Again overseas users need ExpatShield first.

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Or the episode is already on TheBox.bz as a free leach.

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Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 05:43 PM

Didn't Sam Lakeman get in by marriage? To Cara Dillon (Irish).
(Sorry, I'm following the rather cynical trend here, slightly tongue-in-cheek): no offence to Sam, who is a fine musician).

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 06:14 PM

and Sean Lakeman is married to Kathryn Roberts, I believe. I have no idea what their favourite colours or favourite foods are though

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 06:23 PM

What do people in other countries think of as American music?

I would guess most people here would think of Stephen Foster, cowboy songs, music hall songs...not sure what else. That would be the most widespread. mg

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 07:24 PM

who do I think of when I think of American music? Iris Dement for one, Emmylou Harris for another, The Flatlanders, Wilco,

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Stanron
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 07:29 PM

What do people in other countries think of as American music?

Ragtime
The Great American Songbook(s)
Origins of jazz
Country
Blues
Bluegrass
The unfortunate tedium of most modern jazz
In the same way that psychology has a silent P, rap has ......

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 07:53 PM

Tradsinger wrote "Americans like to see their folk/country/old timey music as all coming from Ireland and Scotland,..." So you know ALL of us then? Funny, I know some who like to think their music has African roots, or French, or, dare I say, English. We have so many twigs from Child ballad branches growing here. We have murder ballads, sea shanties, hymns and other types of song, and many are linked with English music.

The more I read here, the more I think any anti-English bias (when it comes to music) is perpetuated mostly by English people. Either you simply don't think your music is good enough, or you think that's how other people see it. It baffles me. I love English music. I also believe that music lovers who judge a song by its nationality are idiots.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: michaelr
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 08:15 PM

Well said, Jeri.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: ChrisJBrady
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 08:46 PM

Well - not as good as the other programmes by a very long way. The aims and objectives of the series is now beyond me, and the agenda of demonstrating the similarities of American (whatever that is) with Scottish and Irish folk music and song was well diluted. AND what a bunch of male chauvinists - ALL the musos were male. The few females (3?) were relegated to singing one song each. Also I don't think any English trad. musos or singers would have a place in the proceedings. I simply couldn't see the likes of the Watersons or Carthys or Coppers or Bellowhead or any of the likes of Oyster or Albion etc., fitting in at all. The first programme demonstrated a dire ignoring (ignorance?) of anything remotely English. What on earth is the Beeb thinking of. Poor start to the new series.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 09:18 PM

CJB you're paranoid. How can the first programme demonstrate "a dire ignorance of anything remotely English" when the subject is not touched upon? You're reading stuff into it which is not there. Be thankful that there's a folk music programme on TV at all. Or should Scots complain about there being no Scots on the Percy Grainger prom?

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BobKnight
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 09:57 PM

Where were all the Scots on the "Folk Britannia" programmes last year? To say there is some sort of anti-English bias is nonesense - they probably didn't even think about it.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 10:54 PM

Seems to me that the English feel that their tradition needs to be included in every facet of folk music (folkie colonialism?)

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 04:10 AM

Well I thought it was fine, a great start to the new series and I'm looking forward to the next programme.

I can only apologise for such uncalled for positivity.

And yes it would be fantastic to see a similar setup involving more English musicians, but I'm afraid I've certainly not got the experience, expertise and contacts to get such a programme commissioned.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Will Fly
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 04:16 AM

Seems to me that the English feel that their tradition needs to be included in every facet of folk music (folkie colonialism?)

Well now you're drawing from the particular to the general - which is not what I meant when I made my initial comment about the lack of English music/musicians in the Transatlantic Sessions.

Given the cross-cultural musical links between England and the US, and given the cross-cultural musical links between all parts of England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland - links which go back hundreds of years, I'm just mildly irritated that the Transatlantic Sessions weren't truly "transatlantic" when they were devised, and haven't evolved in their attitude since then. As I said clearly, I love the sessions (on the whole), but I think they've missed an opportunity here.

I certainly don't believe that "my tradition" needs to be included in every facet of folk music - why on earth should I? "My tradition", by the way, includes ancestors from Lancashire and East Anglia in England, Kildare in Ireland and Kinross and Edinburgh in Scotland. Remember - when you say "English" think of that, because it applies to a huge number of my fellow "Englishmen".

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,The Lamenting Whelk
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 07:26 AM

"Seems to me that the English feel that their tradition needs to be included in every facet of folk music (folkie colonialism?)"

Yawn - change the record - the folkie equivalent of Godwin's Law. Those days are gone, and very few English hold a candle for colonialism, just the tory toffs and their cohorts running the country. We just want to join in on an equal footing (actually, I don't as I love Irish trad bestest) because it looks great fun. I love the American musicians, and can watch Lunny and McGoldrick until the cows come home. Jerry Douglas is brilliant.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Commander Crabbe
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 07:43 PM

It might be interesting to consider the following:

A great many numbers of Irish and Scottish people emigrated to America (Some would consider they were forced by English oppression). Quite a number of my own ancestors were displaced and made the journey across the pond from Scotland. And to my knowledge most of the songs of exile, transportation and emigration have their origins in such. That said I'm sure there are some of english origin which somebody will popint out to me before long.

There were undoubtedly some English who made the same journey. However, I have no idea what percentage in relation to Scots and Irish were forced to make the journey through oppression in England. (No doubt someone will know)

If by any chance that percentage is very small compared to the Scots and Irish. Then maybe that's why there isn't much English music incorporated in the programme.

Regards from someone who was born in Germany to an English mother and Scottish father who spent the first four years of his life in China followed by various short sojourns in Scotland and England with fourteen years in Wales three years in Shetland followed by another three years in Wales and who now lives in the Sovereign country of Yorkshire.

CC

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Commander Crabbe
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 08:23 PM

Point!!

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: melodeonboy
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 03:04 AM

I really enjoyed it. Good all round, but I particularly liked the Dirk Powell/Sam Bush song, the lady with the wonderful voice singing in Gaelic (sorry, I can't remember her name!) and the Bela Fleck tune.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Johnny J
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 09:40 AM

Now you all know how we felt after the Folk Britannia series....

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 30 Oct 11 - 07:13 PM

No matter which part of the world you live in, you can view, in their entirety, the first four programmes of the 5th series of Transatlantic Sessions by visiting the following links.

Programme 1
Programme 2
Programme 3
Programme 4

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 08:51 PM

The best singer of this series for me has to be Muireann Nic Amhlaoibh from Danu: beautiful voice and totally unaffected delivery of songs.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BobKnight
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 09:12 PM

I said virtually the same thing on the thread about "The Leaving of Liverpool," TB. With her song on programme five, the "Leaving of Limerick," being very similiar.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Peter C
Date: 02 Nov 11 - 06:06 AM

Thanks Murray MacLeod for the links - they will keep me going until the DVD is released!

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 02 Nov 11 - 09:14 PM

Hi BobKnight,
Hadn't seen the post to which you refer, and haven't yet watch episodes 4 or 5 - got them to look forward to as I've recorded them!

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BobKnight
Date: 03 Nov 11 - 06:32 AM

Well TB - you're in for a treat Muireann sings the song beautifully and Sharon Shannon has a lovely melodeon solo too - prefect.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BobKnight
Date: 03 Nov 11 - 06:34 AM

Ooops - sorry about the typo, I meant "perfect."

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: melodeonboy
Date: 03 Nov 11 - 07:51 PM

Don't be sorry. A female melodeon player dressed as a prefect might do things for me! :)

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 05 Nov 11 - 12:37 PM

Programme 5 now available to view

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: michaelr
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 03:21 AM

Brilliant stuff, great musicianship. It doesn't get better than this.

I think the drummer, James Mackintosh, is a model of taste and restraint.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 07 Nov 11 - 04:35 PM

He's a great bloke too: he was percussion tutor at the recent Blazin' in Beauly week.

I'll watch out for the prefect tonight then! (Of course Sharon Shannon is one of my role models!)

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Folky
Date: 08 Nov 11 - 07:36 PM

I have just found this link to the whole series which is in MP4 format....pretty good quality.....great show

Link Here

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 08 Nov 11 - 08:00 PM

The first link goes to something called Stairway to Heaven (I suspect that this site belongs to GUEST,Folky)There are further links on the front page those links go to a torrent download site each file is 163.70 MB I went in with my firewall up, just in case, I personally wouldn't advise anyone to access these files,as you never know what special free gifts (the ones that keep giving and giving) might come down with the files. Ultimately, though, it's up to the individual.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: michaelr
Date: 08 Nov 11 - 09:13 PM

Yes, I felt the same way, and decided not to download from that site. I'll just wait for Murray's link to Episode 6 (thanks, Murray!)

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 08 Nov 11 - 10:25 PM

Programme 4:

A brilliant, rendition of Richard Thompson's Dimming of the Day sung by Alison Krauss

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 03:33 AM

Alison and Union Station were superb at the Birmingham Symphony Hall last Friday. 'Dimming of The Day' was one of the highlights.
Might Jerry twist Ali's arm to come over for the Transatlantic Sessions Live tour? We can always hope.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BobKnight
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 05:11 AM

I've thought all the way throough this series that the vocals were too submerged in the mix, until it came to programme number five, when they were very clear. "The Dimming Of The Day" suffered from this in my opinion, especially when Alison is on the lower notes.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 05:49 AM

All sounded fine on my TV through the Home Cinema system, Bob. Maybe it's something to do with the way the sound is 'engineered' - possibly to suit one type of setup, but which makes it less suitable for another (a bit like the way films and music sound great through my HCS, but speech programmes are better direct through the telly's own little speakers)?

All too tecknickle for me!   :-)

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 10:37 AM

I've had no problems with my sound, but such things, like backwoodsman r wey tu teknickel fore mee...

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Folky
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 07:01 PM

Guys there is nothing wrong with the links, I can assure you I don't own the site or have anything to do with it. It's just I found these links when I was searching the internet for the series and have downloaded them myself and have checked them for viruses....all clear.Someone said they were Torrent Files, they are nothing of the sort, obviously you don't know what a Torrent file is!! The site appears to be a Music Download site which has mainly music (from folk to jazz on it but mostly rock music) If you don't want to download them then that is up to you but you truly are missing a great show. The only thing wrong with them is that they are mp4 versions but still are great quality from a quality Series. I hope, like you they get money to make another series. I have already bought the 4 series on DVD and have booked the fifth but this will do in the meantime till I get the fifth series on DVD.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Folky
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 07:07 PM

Here are the links again:-

Episode 1

Episode One Fileserve Link
Filesonic Link

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 07:07 PM

I've already watched them except for episode six and I've ordered the DVD I can wait.....

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Folky
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 07:10 PM

Episode 2
Filesonic Link
Fileserve Link

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Folky
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 07:12 PM

Episode 3
Fileserve Link
Filesonic Link

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Folky
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 07:13 PM

Episode 4
Fileserve Link
Filesonic Link

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Folky
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 07:14 PM

Episode 5
Fileserve Link
Filesonic Link

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Folky
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 07:16 PM

Episode 6
Fileserve Link
Filesonic Link

ENJOY

PS Sorry I had to upload them on individual posts but this thread wouldn't let do it completely in one post.... I promise there are no hidden nasties in this Post....just great Music

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 07:21 PM

Murray MacLeod has already provided reliable links to all the episodes currently available, and you've already posted those links once.

I know what torrents are, I've downloaded a fair number of films oh and music videos too.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 07:23 PM

BTNG.....sorry but I just posted them because maybe someone might like to download them and watch them that haven't seen them before. You must admit, the Series is SUPERB and well worth watching again and again. I just hope the BBC and RTE repeat the series but this time instead of hiding them away in some late night spot or some channel like BBC 4 they put them on BBC1....were they should rightly be

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Barb'ry
Date: 10 Nov 11 - 01:11 PM

Thanks for posting those. I must have missed Murray's previous posting and appreciate the chance to see them

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Charliebrown
Date: 10 Nov 11 - 07:30 PM

Barb'ry.....thanks for your support. I would be very grateful if you would return and say what you think of the quality of these links....and that they don't have any virus's in them. This would help me greatly to prove to certain people (on here) that I posted these links with the best intentions......to share great music.

Thanks again Barb'ry

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Charliebrown056
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 06:47 AM

Here is Season One of this Great Series:-

Transatlantic Sessions 1

Episode 1

Fileserve Link

Filesonic Link

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Folk
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 06:50 AM

Transatlantic Sessions 1

Episode 2

Fileserve Link

Filesonic Link

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Folking
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 06:52 AM

Transatlantic Sessions 1

Episode 3

Fileserve Link

Filesonic Link

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Folkey
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 06:55 AM

Transatlantic Sessions 1

Episode 4

Fileserve Link

Filesonic Link

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Anybody but BTNG
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 06:58 AM

Transatlantic Sessions 1

Episode 5

Fileserve Link

Filesonic Link

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 07:01 AM

Transatlantic Sessions 1

Episode 6

Fileserve Link

Filesonic Link

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Folkie
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 07:03 AM

Transatlantic Sessions 1

Episode 7

Fileserve Link

Filesonic Link

------------------- Use a consistent GUESTname please. JoeClone----------------------------------

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: evansakes
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 10:39 AM

What's all this?

Are these links to free downloads?

If so why the hell are you doing this, Folky?

To the best of my knowledge each series of the Transatlantic Sessions is ommercially available on DVD. By that method it's safe to assume the artists, producers etc would get suitably remunerated. I have some of the DVDs and hope to be getting the rest soon.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Barb'ry
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 10:57 AM

I thanked the poster before but when I clicked the link there is a multi-coloured, ad-laden page with a very small link at the top. I didn't click the link, sorry.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: evansakes
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:24 PM

Me neither.....I wish he's peddle his pirate wares elsewhere rather than gatecrashing a thread I started to celebrate the new televised series.

If anyone wants to watch these things more often than they appear on TV or iPlayer they should do the decent thing and buy the DVDs.

Here's one worthwhile emporium that would be pleased to partake in an honest transaction whereby everyone can watch the programmes at their leisure

Musicscotland.com

The links represent the cost of sharing free files - they load slower and you have to look at advertising. That doesn't make them bit torrent files. --mudelf

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:30 PM

I have the DVD for this season on order, and if you can afford it, it's what I recommend others do.

slightly different name to the following website but they have The Sessions as well.

Music In Scotland

Thanks Twickfolk for your link

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 07:27 PM

OK guys, I've listened to what you have said and removed all the links and files.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 10:40 PM

For the record......my comments regarding sound quality referred to the original transmissions by BBC2 Scotland, which I recorded from Sky on my Sky+ box, nothing to do with any of the links above, 'torrent downloads' (whatever the fuck they are) or any kind of pirated shit.

I have not downloaded any pirated material, nor will I. I'll buy the DVD when it's available. I have already bought tickets for the 'Transatlantic Sessions Live' tour in early 2012.

Just wanted that understood.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 11:23 PM

I understood what you meant Backwoodsman, and have areally great time at the concert!

GUEST you don't have that ability, to remove the links from this thread, only a Mod can do that, so we have nothing to thank for, eh WAV.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: MartinRyan
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 03:56 AM

Looks like he/she has disabled the OTHER end.

Regards

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 05:29 PM

There you have the snarling BTNG looking a gift horse in the mouth and not taking the time to understand the dynamic of the free download. Too bad, they might have been interesting.

SRS

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 06:57 PM

Oh I understand the so-called "dynamic" it's theft. Still if you're that cheap that you won't invest in the DVD. These are folk who earn their living from playing music; or do you think they should be doing it for free?

Oh and before YOU carry on like a rather silly old woman, try checking
Murray Macleod's postings for October 30th and November 5th

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 07:15 PM

The programs are in different formats but they're all for download. Six of one half-dozen of the other. You simply have a hair up your ass about some members and are intent on making their participation here difficult. You camp out and have a smart answer because you're happiest when the thread is really more about you than anything else. It's a control thing, isn't it?

DVDs from different parts of the world won't play everywhere unless they're in an open format, so depending on where you're from and how and where they discs are released, the download may be the only way to see them for a while.

You're mentioning theft and cheap but you in fact know nothing about how people choose to sample or listen and then buy the product when it finally becomes available. I don't download unless there is no other option, I think many of our members behave that way.

SRS

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 09:33 PM

All Transatlantic Sessions DVDs are Region 0 ( playable worldwide)

available at various online locations including Amazon and http://www.musicscotland.com

all the links provided by Murray MacLeod are in one single format, Windows Media Video (WMV)

PS.old man There a few whose opinion I value highly, you aren't one of them AND you have no idea who Folky was, I do.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 10:58 PM

I do know who folky et al are, BTNG, and I know your guess is wrong.

And anyone who aspires to earn your good opinion is frankly, a fool.

SRS

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 11:15 PM

"And anyone who aspires to earn your good opinion is frankly, a fool."

if you say so.

Anyway this thread is about The Transatlantic Sessions

Series 5 Episodes One through Five are now available on You Tube, for you viewing (or whatever else you choose to do, if you have the right software) pleasure

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: michaelr
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 11:47 PM

Who Folky was? Why, did you kill him?

BTNG's assertion that the DVDs are playable worldwide is a bit disingenuous. As can be seen at Music Scotland, they may be labeled "Region 0", but they can only be played by machines that support the European PAL format. Which in my case, being in the US, means that I can only play them on my computer.

As it is, I'll be ordering Season 5 along with Season 2 which has just come out after (presumably) years of legal wrangling.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 12:25 PM

Yes I saw Series 2 DVD on sale in the music shop in Beauly (inverness-shire) when I was up there. On my Christmas list!
BobKnight - yes "Leaving Limerick" sung by Muireann was fabulous - was this song the inspiration for the (better known?) "Leaving of Liverpool"? I was gutted to find that tho' I'd recorded it on our DVD recorder, the disc ran out just as she started singing that song, but have been able to see it on iPlayer.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 12:35 PM

Who Folky was? Why, did you kill him? Yes

and my apologies for my misreading of the music in scotland site

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 12:43 PM

Some DVD players only play discs identified as NTSC or PAL, while others can play both standards

NTSC format is mainly supported in USA, Canada, South America & the Caribbean.

So whatever works for you, go for it.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 08:33 AM

Ah, the power of Mudcat! All it took was giving Alba a jolly good talking to about not showcasing English Folk Music on the Transatlantic Sessions, and they put fellow accordionist and all round good fellow Donald Shaw on the job to choose six decent acts rooted in the English Folk Genre (and I don't know how wide that envelope is!)to showcase in the 2013 Celtic Connections. Derek Schofield kindly put it up here a week ago, but seemingly nobody bit.

Here's the direct link

And here's Derek's thread