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BS: Wall Street Protesters...

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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: akenaton
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 11:16 AM

Be sensible guys....America is a deeply conservative nation, and that is what makes its people strong.

A collection of new agers and students will never rock the systen no matter how bad a state it is in.....cannon fodder!

You want to change the system, you have to carry the MAJORITY with you ....Sarah was your best chance, but you blew it....maybe you dont really want it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 10:35 AM

GfS: That comment--if it may be interpreted as one--about the Wall Street protesters is quite supercilious.

The people you denigrate are trying. You ain't. End of story.


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 10:06 AM

You got it, Bill... She's a right winger at heart...

But never mind her...

We have our own chapter up in Charlotte, NC, that is going to meet Saturday at 3:00... I'm scheduled to compete in a regional blues challenge Saturday not too far from the meeting place but don't have my time slot yet... Hopefully I'll be able to do both...

No matter... I will get involved with the Charlotte chapter...

BTW, progressives have been waiting 40 years for something to fire them up that is more comprehensive that the anti-war protests of 2002... This one has a lot of meat 'n 'tators to it and will end up exposing the real problems that unregulated and corrupted capitalism has created... 30 years of working class decline, education decline, infrastructure decline, public health decline, moral decline and increased levels of poverty, infant mortality, unemployment, underemployment and income disparity tells *US* that Reaganomics works only for the corrupt and wealthy...

I have predicted here at Mudcat just what we are seeing... The revolution is "on" and people will see the alternative to the corporate puppet Tea Partiers and see that what is really being said is that what the US is lacking is justice...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 09:49 AM

Hidden deeply in your message, GfS, I seem to detect an indication that you somehow disapprove of the protesters' motives, techniques and basic philosophy, and that you won't be going down to join them. It's SO useful to read a deep, sensitive analysis of the movement with such clearly expressed non-partisan views.


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 02:23 AM

I looked at all the visual 'news' media footage I could check out, and this is what I came up with....

..a bunch of young punks, who don't know jack shit about what they are doing, but have been whipped up by some manipulating shills, pretending to care. Anything to get Americans to immolate, the uprisings we see on the news, in the Mideast, and turn against each other, and that will allow the government to crack down, on us all, implementing all the police state crap, that they've just been waiting for an excuse, to do, for a long fucking time! THIS IS CONTRIVED...and bullshit!
If they wanted to march, and/or if they knew what they were really marching about, they'd be in Washington!
Most of these little punks look like they haven't even been out of the bathroom, counting their new pubic hairs with tweezers, and experienced anything in life, to even know what they are doing!..
....and any clowns in here, who are supportive of them, aren't spending enough time working on their music...and just want to relive their stupid youth...doing equally stupid bullshit!

Think I was clear, enough?....

Oh, and fuck the 'extension of the Arab Spring' shit! that is more nonsense, to make it appear to be some gigantic wonderful thing..that it isn't!
Peace,
GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 10:22 PM

Songwronger, the only place we differ on our view regarding the whole thing is this: the Tea Party never WAS a grassroots movement. It always had big bucks behind it.

I expect the Dems will do their best to co-opt this response. However, I think people are really Fed up, Tea'd off and the more it spreads the better off we all will be. I don't want a damned thing to do with either main party. I feel that way about this country's main parties, also. Too much bullsh#t for far too long from all of them.

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Etan: please post the lyrics to your version of WHB here, would ya? Love to read them. (S'what I forgot to say earlier.)

B


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 10:22 PM

This is what grassroots look like, Dick... There are a number of issues that all seem to agree on... Wall Street's risk being socialized while every one else twisting in the wind, for starters...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 10:14 PM

I'm baffled. I know what the 60s an 70s protesters were hoping to achieve, but this one is beyond me. What action (or actions)are they hoping for from Wall Street? Picketing Congess would seem to be more to the point.


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Etan
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 08:39 PM

I was with Occupy Wall Street on Saturday and Sunday, and I took part in the march across the bridge. It was a setup. I thought we were being allowed (and directed) to cross the bridge on the roadway. Luckily, I got away before they finished putting up the nets. NY Times reporters on the ground agreed with my view of events.

If you have questions that I can answer, I will.

BTW: I've brought my banjo down during good weather. My new version of "White House Blues" was well received. I've been talking to a few people here about creating an updated "Which Side Are You On". Banjos are great for playing louder than traffic noise, but shouting lyrics over it all is a bit tough on the throat.

If you are in the metro New York area, let's get together for some radical picking and singing this coming weekend. PM me with your email address if you would like to arrange things.

-- Etan


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Songwronger
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 07:31 PM

I was disappointed to see the usual liberal attention seekers coming out to support this movement. Michael Moore, Sarandon, others. The media will now twist this into a "liberal" answer to the Tea Party.

The Tea Party started out as a true grassroots movement but was soon co-opted by the Republicans. The Democrats will now do the same to the Occupy Wall Street movement. This is how the people in power remain in power, by seizing grassroots movements and polarizing.

A more promising movement is the "Occupy the Fed" thing. Where the Occupy Wall Street movement is diffuse and non-specific, the Fed approach has true purpose.

Hopefully, after the media finishes dividing people into the the Democratic/Wall Street and the Republican/Tea Party factions, both will be able to focus on the Fed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 05:42 PM

Why was it not on all front pages from the beginning? Perhaps there were other things in the world that needed the space. I don't assume that my idea of the "crucial news of the day" is shared by everyone. I use many sources for news...and pick what I want to read.

   Youu can get a pretty good idea of the range at http://news.google.com/


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Lighter
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 05:41 PM

CNN has also covered this from this beginning. And today it was one of their top stories.


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 05:38 PM

It is the American Spring... And a logical reaction to the corporate brown shirt Tea Party... It's about time... Have to check out what's happening locally...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 05:33 PM

from Wash. Post...Sept.25


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Lox
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 04:28 PM

I saw copies of the wall street journal online - the first stated that police had forced protesters on to the bridge where they then arrested them ... for being on the bridge ... this tallied with eye witness testimony ...

a later version, 20 minutes to be precise, omitted the police involvement in the move onto the bridge.

Corporate Media being economical with the truth ....

Blocking traffic? - only because thats where the police led them.

Police brutality has been an issue and i've been seeing a lot of reports about it over the last week or so.


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 04:14 PM

You might want to read Al Jazeera's spin on thigs - they see this tied into the Arab Spring. I can't find the NPR story I heard this morning, but here's a link to their coverage.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 02:33 PM

They are in Boston too. About time!


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 01:37 PM

Copycat in Toronto Bay Street. Receiving more coverage than it is worth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: EBarnacle
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 08:51 AM

Could this be the analog of the 60's anti war movement?


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 11:15 PM

NPR has had several articles. There is another thread that has been discussing this for a week or more. Here is the NYPD Police Brutality - or not? thread.

It sounds like it has taken a little while but people have caught the peaceful tone and it is growing.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 09:10 PM

Nothing real in the "liberal" Washington Post until Thursday... 2 weeks after it bagan... Maybe Page A-17. I donno... I read it on line...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: artbrooks
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 09:02 PM

Only if you watch TV, I guess. The web versions of the print media have had it covered pretty well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 08:31 PM

Until just 2 days ago night not one of the BIG THREE (CBS, ABC or NBC) covered it... That's a full force embargo...

Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: artbrooks
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 08:03 PM

Personally, I've been following this on cnn.com and hadn't noticed any embargo. There was a very peaceful support march here in Albuquerque yesterday; no streets blocked so nobody arrested.


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Subject: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 07:31 PM

Well, well, well...

Looks as if the "General Assembly" is breaking thru the BIG MEDIA blackballing...

Good...

Anyone have current info, please add it until we start getting even more thru the news embargo...

Bob


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