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'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)

Dave the Gnome 04 Oct 11 - 12:06 PM
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Dave the Gnome 05 Oct 11 - 09:08 AM
GUEST,A N Organiser 05 Oct 11 - 11:24 AM
Dave the Gnome 05 Oct 11 - 11:47 AM
Dave the Gnome 10 Oct 11 - 03:24 PM
Dave the Gnome 10 Oct 11 - 05:56 PM
GUEST,Ivan Kelsall 12 Oct 11 - 05:06 AM
Vin2 12 Oct 11 - 08:50 AM
Vin2 12 Oct 11 - 11:43 AM
Llanfair 12 Oct 11 - 06:50 PM
GUEST,Guest TF 12 Oct 11 - 07:23 PM
GUEST 13 Oct 11 - 10:48 AM
Vin2 14 Oct 11 - 08:28 AM
GUEST,Derek Schofield 14 Oct 11 - 10:29 AM
Vin2 18 Oct 11 - 08:47 AM
Dave the Gnome 30 Oct 11 - 07:25 AM
GUEST,John Bailey 31 Oct 11 - 06:10 PM
Dave the Gnome 31 Oct 11 - 08:18 PM
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Mark Dowding 01 Nov 11 - 08:16 AM
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Bernard 08 Nov 11 - 12:36 PM
Mary Humphreys 08 Nov 11 - 01:53 PM
Mark Dowding 09 Nov 11 - 03:03 AM
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Les in Chorlton 10 Nov 11 - 09:32 AM
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GUEST,Dom 14 Nov 11 - 03:21 PM
Mark Dowding 15 Nov 11 - 03:24 AM
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Subject: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 12:06 PM

I will transcribe the leaflet I have been given verbatim. Be careful with the later wording is all I will say... :-)

"A NIGHT AT THE MSG"

SAT 12 NOVEMBER (7:30 PM)

AT THE UKRAINIAN CLUB
SMEDLEY LANE
CHEETHAM HILL
MANCHESTER

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A CONCERT TO CELEBRATE THE ICONIC
1960'S AND 1970'S MUSIC VENUE
THE MANCHESTER SPORTS GUILD

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FEATURING
A HOST OF LOCAL AND NATIONAL
FOLK SINGERS

AND NOSTALGIC MEMORIES FROM
MSG ARTISTS THAT INCLUDED:-

Paul Simon, Billy Connolly, Jasper Carrot, Mike Harding,
Julie Felix, Christy Moore, Martin Carthy, Barbara Dixon
and many, many more.

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TICKETS £6

FROM 07968 116910/ 07765 527358/ 07760 430577

All proceeds to the James Cheetham fund
http://jimbocheetham.webeden.co.uk

ENQUIRIES / MEMORIES / OFFERS TO PERFORM ETC TO:-

Stanacc62@hotmail.com or phone 07884 396444

Me again - Enjoy :-)

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: frogprince
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 12:37 PM

Monosodiumglutomate?


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 12:44 PM

So do you know who's on the bill? I take it it won't be any of the folks listed... ;-)


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 09:08 AM

Who knows Mr C :-) I thought it quite clever. As Stanley Accrington seems to have a lot to do with it I think we may assume he is on. Possibly Chris Harvey and Phil Brown but I am not sure of that.

Cheers

D


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: GUEST,A N Organiser
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 11:24 AM

The Night at the MSG idea came from comments in this thread.

No, we won't have Paul Simon et Al (you can call him that), but a number of artists local to Manchester who used to play at and visit the MSG in its heydays have said they will come along and play.

These include: Marie Little, Arthur Wakefield, Tony Downes of the Beggarmen, Pat Ryan, Pete Ryder, Gary and Vera Aspey, The Hometowners, John Howarth of the Oldham Tinkers, possibly Alan Bell, possibly Tony Kelly ... and we're still taking names. (Stanley Acc will be one of the MC's)


In addition, we have contacted a lot of the guests of the MSG and have received messages, stories and some CD's for Raffle Prizes from such people as Rosie Hardman, Mary Humphries, Christy Moore, Chris Simpson of Magna Carta, Barbara Dickson ..... and more will follow, I hope.

It should be a good night with a whole load of nostalgia. We may also be producing recordings of the songs and the memories ...


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 11:47 AM

Nostalgia ain't what it used to be...

I hope to be there though. Makes me wish I had pinched the old MSG sign when I had chance

:D


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 03:24 PM

Refresh


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 05:56 PM

Just had confirmation of another act - Harry Ogden.

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: GUEST,Ivan Kelsall
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 05:06 AM

This is a fantastic idea & a resounding thanks to 'whoever' put it together. I'll certainly be there (without Banjo),& i look forward to seeing many old(er) & familiar faces,
                                     Ivan
http://youtu.be/CWGqNZeVld8 - me in the pink shirt !


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Vin2
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 08:50 AM

Looks like a great night in store with some fab names already promised to show. What about Mr Jenks if he's still with us ?


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Vin2
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 11:43 AM

Ivan, i think you should bring your banjo and mando

Hope to see you there !


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Llanfair
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 06:50 PM

I'd love to go, but it would be difficult for me. Anyone recording the event? I'll order a copy now.


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: GUEST,Guest TF
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 07:23 PM

I wish I could be there. I have some great, if hazy memories of the MSG in the 60s & 70s.


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Oct 11 - 10:48 AM

I think it#ll be an amazing night - full of nostalgia!
Ali x


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Vin2
Date: 14 Oct 11 - 08:28 AM

Well if nostalgia's goin i'll defi be there :-)


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield
Date: 14 Oct 11 - 10:29 AM

I was a regular around the 1970-72 period (when at university), but regret I can't make the reunion ... hope it goes well.
Derek Schofield


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Vin2
Date: 18 Oct 11 - 08:47 AM

Anybody from the Pennine Folk or Dando Shaft perhaps


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Oct 11 - 07:25 AM

Well, I have had confirmation that I will be in Ulverston that night so no Ukrainian MSG for me. Still, it does have it's benefits and I have refreshed the thread:-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: GUEST,John Bailey
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 06:10 PM

As a regular and often singer on Mondays in the mid to late 60s - looking forward to this. Apologies in advance to everybody I will not remember or recognise - alzheimers r us?


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 08:18 PM

Hey John! I wish I could ermmm, errr, thingy...

DtG


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: johnadams
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 08:43 PM

Bugger. With a bit more notice we might have got a quorum from The Druids.

I enjoyed doing the MSG. We always seem to be booked for a double header with Hamish Imlach!


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 08:16 AM

Chris Harvey and myself have been tasked with recording the event. Chris will be taking a feed out of the desk to record the concert and I'll be doing the "roving reporter" bit with my Marantz digital audio recorder asking the artists about their memories of the MSG (which was before my time). I'll also be going round the audience at the break asking for their (brief) memories if they were regulars at the time. If anybody wants to bring a video camera and take film of the evening then that would be appreciated. Not sure how good the sound would be but if anybody can bring a camera and they need to borrow a tripod then let me know.

Cheers
Mark


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 08 Nov 11 - 02:51 AM

Has the final line-up been decided for this concert?


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Bernard
Date: 08 Nov 11 - 12:36 PM

Alas, I cannot be there... charity 'do' in Betws-Y-Coed at the same time...


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Mary Humphreys
Date: 08 Nov 11 - 01:53 PM

I am otherwise engaged in East Anglia on the night, but would love to hear how it goes.
Mark Dowding, are you telling me you weren't part of the days at MSG? Are you really that young? Or am I really that old?
Don't answer that one......


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 03:03 AM

Hi Mary! My days in Manchester started in 1981 when I went to various clubs including The Star Inn in Salford (Martin Gittins' club), The Unicorn in Manchester (Harry Boardman's club), Tony and Marge Hill ran a club at the Blackfriars I think on a Friday which I went to on a few occasions and there was one on a Sunday Night at the White Swan (I think the pub was called) in Prestwich a mile or so over the M62 on a Sunday Night run by a couple called Andy and Siobhan if my memory serves me right.

For the people who are coming then prepare to be accosted by a bloke with headphones and a big microphone who will be coming round asking lots of questions about what you remember of the old days!


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 08:31 AM

Speaking of the Black Lion. Anyone remenber the fab nights held regularly there years back by Pet Farrow (bass drumm, symbols and guitar all at once!)? J.C. Clarke used to pop in regularly, Mary Asquith & many more - folk, blues, poetry the lot - brilliant!


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 08:31 AM

Sorry last contribution was meeeee Vin2


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Vin2
Date: 09 Nov 11 - 08:33 AM

Pain the neck these 'cookie' thingy's


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 10 Nov 11 - 07:20 AM

Has anybody asked Mike Harding? Chris and I did an interview with him a few years ago for a programme we made about Harry Boardman and Mike gave us a good description of his early days in the folk world which included his memories of the MSG.


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 10 Nov 11 - 09:32 AM

Paul Simon was on the box the other night. I'm sure he mentioned turning up to this amazing gig

L in C#


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Nov 11 - 04:42 AM

It's tomorrow! But I will be in the depths of the west Lake District in about 8 hours so I am refreshing the thread now :-)


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: GUEST,A N Organiser
Date: 11 Nov 11 - 12:28 PM

Thanks to all who have contributed to the thread.

It looks like being a great evening of unashamed nostalgia. A late addition to the line-up is Chris Simpson of Magna Carta.

The full list of performers is: Gary & Vera Aspey, John Bailey, Alan Bell (Taverners), Phil Drane, Hometowners & Tony Downes featuring Gerry Brady (Beggarmen), John Howarth (Oldham Tinkers), Marie Little, Harry Ogden, Pete Ryder, Chris Simpson (Magna Carta), Malcolm Thorpe, Arthur Wakefield (Tony & Arthur). A huge thanks to all of these "local and national" artists in advance.

With lots of stories and reminiscences, it will be a packed night. Audience numbers look promising too. We are recording the event (including the stories) for posterity and beyond.

Reminder: A night at the MSG at the Ukrainian Club, 31 Smedley Lane Cheetham Hill, Manchester M8 from 7 30pm Saturday 12 November

We should be able to squeeze in anyone who wants to come along.


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: GUEST,John Bailey
Date: 11 Nov 11 - 05:56 PM

To DtG - Give me a wave - I'm coming down from Ulverston - hope I'm not missing an even better gig at home!


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Vin2
Date: 13 Nov 11 - 12:12 PM

Well it came and went just (like the Guild itself). But what a fab night eh folks. Lots of memories and nostalgia and great guests, from the Beggerman's Gerry Brady, the lovely Marie Little all the way from't North East, Pet Ryder and the great Chris Simpson of Magna Carta fame and loads more. Many thanks to Stan Ackrington and Martin Gittins. Can we do it again next year or, as Martin suggested, maybe a more regular gathering as it is a great gig venue.

I got MSG remenicencies booklet but forgot to fill in and hand in the back sheet re dvd etc. Anyone know where i can send it to.


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: GUEST,Brenda Keyes
Date: 13 Nov 11 - 02:32 PM

In a moment of madness way back in 1969, Jenks decided that the old place needed a lick of paint. I was at art college at the time, so myself (as a regular at the guild) and two others - Mike Cosgrave and Graham Ralston were given the job in the Easter holidays. Jenk's reasoning being that if we were art students we should be able to paint!
Two days later and the worst paint job in the history of paint jobs, we were told to 'buggar off', and in true Jenks style he didn't pay us a penny.
My memories of the guild are all fond though. Best folk venue ever, then and now.


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: GUEST,Dom
Date: 14 Nov 11 - 03:21 PM

What a great night.
When I first started going to the MSG much of the time was spent avoiding Jenks as I was under age and warned by friends whatever happens don't let him catch you!
In those days I didn't sing nor did I know lots of people but I loved it as much as anyone. I certainly didn't realise at the time what an important part of my life it was.
Those of us who were around at the time were we privileged to have been a part of it or what?


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 03:24 AM

From what I saw of the concert it was a great night and a big crowd. We got a recording of the whole concert, I got two hours worth of interviews with artists and audience which need distilling down into soundbites - I could have a CD's worth of memories of Jenks alone!Thanks to everyone for taking the time to stop and be interviewed. I know Martin had a video camera going as well so the evening was covered from all angles.


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Vin2
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 08:29 AM

It was great to see so many people turn out especially many who were far too young to have attended the Guild. Was at the 'Owdum Civic Hall last night to see the Tinkers with Bernard Wrigley and it was packed. So great to see the interest is still there.

So with the demise of Saddleworth Festival (no sign of return spose ??) it would be nice to see more events like the MSG re-union (p'raps that could be an annual thing?) in local halls.

Maybe a Unicorn re-union in memory of Harry B - what d'ya think Mark ?


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 03:19 PM

It's certainly possible Vin! I think there's enough people from those days knocking around to put something together. Not just in Harry's memory of course as we've lost Paul Connor, Tony Hill and Joe Kerrins who were regular performers at the Unicorn. I can probably knock a song or two out of Harry's old banjo which I bought off him 30 years ago and having had it looked at to straighten out the neck it's playing as well as ever.
Martin was talking of having a Star Inn Folk Club reunion as well. I wonder if he's still got the raffle ticket bag from the Trustee Savings Bank or TSB which was rechristened The Star Bag! I've got a load of tapes of nights at the Star and the Unicorn - I must get them sorted out.
Cheers
Mark


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Vin2
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 10:23 AM

Funnily enough i was talking about Paul Connor and Joe Kerrins (fabulous voice eh) last night at a brilliant gig at the Castle Inn, Oldham st in Manchester. There used to be a regular Friday night (i think) of folk/blues/poetry there in the seventies run by the great Pete Farrow. Methinks Tony Hill was a regular too - sadly all three no longer with us.


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: GUEST,Roger
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:22 PM

Only managed to get there for the fist half hour due to prior commitments but sounded like a great night!

A few photos as they got under starters orders:

http://www.folkimages.com/msg/


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: Vin2
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 09:29 AM

Nice one Roger, exellent snaps!


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: GUEST,Steve Leonard
Date: 28 Aug 17 - 01:10 PM

Mark,
Only just cottoned on to the Mudcat website and enjoying it tremendously, especially as I was a regular down the MSG on a Monday or Saturday nights in the late '60s.

Loved the Newcastle Browns (with the date stamped on the label) and even sang a couple of times on a Monday, and later on my girlfriend was once Jenk's secretary.

Missed the reunion of course, but if you have a cd or any recording of the night, or of any such memories I would love to have access to it and happy to pay (or make donation to the James Cheetham Fund)

Keep up the good work,
Cheers,

Steve (now living in Isle of Man)


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Subject: RE: 'A night at the MSG' (Manchester, UK)
From: GUEST,Mark Dowding
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 03:14 AM

Hi Steve
I don't have copies of the CD but if you get in touch with Stanley Accrington (Google his name for his website) he should be able to help you by getting you in touch with Martin Gittins who organised the event for the charity.
(Are you the Steve Leonard I used to work with by any chance?)

Cheers
Mark


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