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Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe

GUEST,Jeremy C-G 05 Oct 11 - 04:38 PM
Bainbo 05 Oct 11 - 04:53 PM
Bainbo 05 Oct 11 - 04:53 PM
GUEST 05 Oct 11 - 05:04 PM
Bainbo 05 Oct 11 - 05:08 PM
Tradsinger 05 Oct 11 - 05:50 PM
Folkiedave 05 Oct 11 - 05:53 PM
RTim 05 Oct 11 - 06:57 PM
GUEST 06 Oct 11 - 05:28 AM
squeezeboxhp 06 Oct 11 - 07:20 AM
Tradsinger 06 Oct 11 - 07:36 AM
Susanne (skw) 06 Oct 11 - 06:05 PM
GUEST 08 Oct 11 - 07:42 AM
GUEST 13 Oct 11 - 04:51 AM
GUEST 29 Oct 11 - 01:27 PM
Jim Martin 30 Oct 11 - 09:14 AM
YorkshireYankee 30 Oct 11 - 11:16 AM
Mitch the Bass 31 Oct 11 - 05:14 AM
C Stuart Cook 01 Nov 11 - 02:13 AM
Jim Martin 01 Nov 11 - 09:10 AM
GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler 01 Nov 11 - 11:53 AM
YorkshireYankee 01 Nov 11 - 09:58 PM
GUEST,George Frampton 02 Nov 11 - 04:16 AM
Sue Allan 02 Nov 11 - 06:26 AM
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Subject: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: GUEST,Jeremy C-G
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 04:38 PM

This is my first time using this group, so hello to all! I am a dancer from Boston, MA, USA and I am currently traveling around Europe for a year collecting and learning different hilt and point sword dances on a fellowship. I started in August and have been in France, Italy, Basque country, and Spain (where I found several dances with choreography very similar to italian dances!) and will be continuing throughout Europe until the end of next July. I am taking lots of pictures and videos as well as collecting as much of the history and literature about these dances as I can. I would love to know about any contacts that members of this group may have on the continent! When I return I look forward to sharing these findings with those who are interested. You can follow my travels at starofswords.wordpress.com , which also includes my non-sword specific days (can't see dancing every day!)
I would be excited to hear thoughts, questions, or suggestions as this research progresses!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: Bainbo
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 04:53 PM

That link doesn't work - try this: Chasing the Star of Swords

The trip looks fascinating, Jeemy. I trust you'll be coming to North East England to see some rapper dancing .


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: Bainbo
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 04:53 PM

Jeremy, even.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 05:04 PM

Yep, I will be in newcastle starting in 2 weeks, and spending a good chunk of time dancing rapper and longsword! are you involved in either?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: Bainbo
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 05:08 PM

Only as a spectator! I've danced both Cotswold and Border Morris in the past, but nothing with swords.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: Tradsinger
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 05:50 PM

Contact Angel Vallverdu in Cambrils, Spain, who has done a lot of work compiling a database of Spanish stick/sword dances email: tiorom (at) hotmail.com. He speaks good English. Mention my name

Tradsinger
(Gwilym Davies)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: Folkiedave
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 05:53 PM

Jeremy.

I am sure you know that the centre of the folk universe is Sheffield and all things sword dancing are here! We have two traditional sword teams, Grenoside and Handsworth!

Contact me via a private message on Mudcat please or via Facebook where I have a page too.

I am sure I can help!

Dave


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: RTim
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 06:57 PM

Folkiedave - Jeremy comes recommended by Jan & I - a good guy!!
So if he makes contact, treat him well!!

Best - Tim Radford (& Jan)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 05:28 AM

@folkiedave Unfortunately I am not yet a Mudcat member (it is by email at the moment) but you can find me on facebook Jeremy C-g. I would love to come and check out sheffield!
@tradsinger, I will definitely contact Angel, thanks for the tip! I am in spain right now, and have seen all of the dances from this time of year, but I may come back next summer! Thanks!
@RTim, Hi! and thanks for the vouch! :)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: squeezeboxhp
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 07:20 AM

check out Kirkburton Rapier Dancers. we are near Sheffield dancing our own sword dances in the village usually New Years Day.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: Tradsinger
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 07:36 AM

I'd be very interested to see the results of your research.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 06:05 PM

There used to be a sword dancing team in Dithmarschen, on the north west coast of Germany, dancing a local ritual dance I think. If you're interested I'll find out a contact for you.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Oct 11 - 07:42 AM

Hi Susanne,
I would love to know a contact, I will be in germany around march-april You can contact me through starofswords.wordpress.com or starofswords at gmail dot com!
Thanks!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Oct 11 - 04:51 AM

I'm sorry i can't private message you, I don't yet have a real membership (just started with this site) @susanne If you see this, i would love to know about Dithmarschen


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Oct 11 - 01:27 PM

Sorry to bump this again, trying to get ahold of susanne about this sword tradition.
Thanks! Jeremy

Also, sword dance in Galicia!
https://starofswords.wordpress.com/2011/10/29/chain-sword-dancing-in-marin-also-sevilla-was-splendid-but-travel-was-terrible/


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: Jim Martin
Date: 30 Oct 11 - 09:14 AM

When I was in the Czech Republic with this organisation on a folk dance holiday, we learnt a dance which was not unlike a NE England long sword dance. They may be able to help you:

http://www.dvorana.cz/dance/


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 30 Oct 11 - 11:16 AM

Jeremy, are you already aware of DERT (Dancing England Rapper Tournament)?
The next one is 30 March - 1 April 2012, in London.

There is also an international sword dancing gathering which (I think) occurs every 3-4 years. I don't know much about it, but I know people who do. Will get back to you when I've had a chance to find out more.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: Mitch the Bass
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 05:14 AM

Take a look at the sword dancing in Madiera care of the Grupo Folclore e Etnográfico Boa Nova. I was there with the Manchester Morris men in 2008, see
http://mmm.minusmoney.org/events/2008madeira.php

Someone at MMM will be able to give you a personal contact.

Howard


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: C Stuart Cook
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 02:13 AM

There was a serious documentary a few years ago on either BBC 3 or 4. Very good.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: Jim Martin
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 09:10 AM

Was this it?

http://www.rapper.org.uk/people/frantisek_pospisil.php


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 11:53 AM

There's always this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEtOZ6sIMVg
A remarkable piece put together by a local young man, which we (Spen Vally LS) thoroughly enjoyed watching at our practice last night!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 09:58 PM

Hello again -- Have heard back (via e-mail) from Ron Day, who says he thinks you know each other "slightly", and that you probably already "know about the sword spectacular" and "may even have been to one????"
So that's cool.
Unfortunately, he also says, "the last word from T'committee, is that it is unlikely to happen again as the cost has become prohibitive, that combined with ever more onerous regulation of anything done in public." What a shame...

Anyway, good luck to you; sorry I couldn't be more helpful.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: GUEST,George Frampton
Date: 02 Nov 11 - 04:16 AM

You are very welcome to look at the references from my article 'Three Men go to Venice - Via Korcula' in the Summer edition of 'Morris Matters' which features the tradition in Croatia. Various websites, and planty of links to YouTube thingies.
Copies are available from Beth Neill.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: Sue Allan
Date: 02 Nov 11 - 06:26 AM

Get yourself along to see Frank Lee in Brampton, Cumbria - maker of the finest rapper swords in the world. Or are you he who is working with him at the moment (I know there's a guy from the States studying what he does ...)? If you want info on Cumbrian sword dance traditions - there was one once - then PM me.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sword dance Research in Europe
From: Folkiedave
Date: 02 Nov 11 - 08:22 AM

And I have contacted you on Faceache.


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