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Obit: Steve Jobs (1955-2011)

open mike 30 Oct 11 - 08:51 PM
open mike 10 Oct 11 - 02:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs (1955-2011)
From: open mike
Date: 30 Oct 11 - 08:51 PM

This eulogy was given by Steve's Sister...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/opinion/mona-simpsons-eulogy-for-steve-jobs.html?_r=2


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs (1955-2011)
From: open mike
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 02:45 PM

"Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most importantly, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary." - Steve Jobs.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs (1955-2011)
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 09 Oct 11 - 11:13 PM

I certainly wouldn't classify Steve Jobs as a technical genius (leave that crown to Stephen Wozniak). I wouldn't even classify him as a visionary ... he was without doubt, the greatest marketing genius of all time.

biLL


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs (1955-2011)
From: Genie
Date: 09 Oct 11 - 10:30 PM

What The Lamenting Whelk said.
It's not that Steve Jobs was a technological genius. What he had was vision - vision about what we, the end users, needed our gadgets to DO. Plus the ability to find and motivate the tecchies who could make that vision reality.
That is the essence of what "human factors" research and development is about. And we, the end users -- even if we aren't fortunate enough to be Mac users -- are much the better for it.

Genie


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs (1955-2011)
From: Genie
Date: 09 Oct 11 - 10:22 PM

@WillFly, I have an even earlier one than the Mac SE. I have a Mac Classic - which I intend to keep, not just as a keepsake, but because it's probably the most 'bug-free' computer I've ever used. Not much good for them there internets, but very reliable for things like simple word processing and spreadsheets.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs (1955-2011)
From: Musket
Date: 07 Oct 11 - 09:55 AM

I use a Mac. Have done for years, even when I company I owned diversified into assembling and selling PCs, (back in the 286 / 386sx days...)

I have always liked the "it works" philosophy and the tight rather than open programming / copyright arrangements may have stifled software and hardware for macs in the early days but that delivered a stable platform.

I bought my sons the first iPods. I had....   It goes on.   Even now, let's look. I have one of the new iMacs and bought my wife a new Macbook Pro at the same time, both replacing Macs that have cascaded down the family. We both have iPhones, we both have iPods linked to our cars and I pose around with an iPad.

How much of that lot could we live without?

That's the question Jobs asked himself a long time ago, and I reckon he not only came up with a different answer but convinced us our answer was wrong. That is sheer marketing genius. Even to the extent that knocking Apple and its products only serves to advertise them.

He also showed us that a company, even one as large as the second largest in the world, can rise and fall on personality, and that products don't just sell themselves.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: gnu
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 10:16 PM

Did not know that Mick.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Big Mick
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 09:28 PM

No argument that he was brilliant, but let's not forget that he moved production of his product offshore to a Chinese sweatshop that has a suicide rate that far exceeds the nation average for China due to it's production practices. He also was foursquare in the corner of busting the teachers unions. I might applaud his creativity and vision on how to use technology, but he was a long way from a Saint.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Joe_F
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 08:56 PM

As Tom Lehrer might have put it, it is a sobering thought that by the time Steve Jobs is my age, he will have been dead for 18 years.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: gnu
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 05:27 PM

And, let's not forget... he's the guy that made it possible, in the first place, for YOU, the guy/al in your home, to sell YOUR own music on the net without signing with/out to a big label. That should certainly count with Mudcatters?


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: gnu
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 03:53 PM

A great loss after such a great gain for having him and his buddy give the world windows to open. RIP.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 03:38 PM

A brilliant man--one who did much to use new technology to give computational access to the world. But also one who managed to dumb down the computer using world to the point where a powerful tool is largely reduced to a mere entertainment center.
Many years ago, Dr. Ken Iverson tried to use technology to provide a "tool for thought"; Jobs tended to make it a replacement for thinking.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 02:57 PM

This is the NY Times Bits Blog post that I meant to link above -- it links to highlights of remembrances around the web, starting with xkcd's "Eternal Flame". (If you're not familiar with xkcd: be sure to position your cursor over the comic's image to read the added note.)

~ Becky in Long Beach


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 11:06 AM

From NPR - that the Apple of Eve, the Apple of Newton, and the Apple of Jobs/Wozniak were the three that changed the world.

That he is among Ford and Bell as great Americans who brought out a physical product which profoundly changed the way people interact.

Man, this was way too soon. So sorry.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: bbc
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 09:29 AM

When I opened Google this am, there was a simple, dignified birth & death date entry for Steve. That was my notification of his death. On the Apple site, one is greeted by his picture, not ads for products. I thought both were very appropriate. Even though I am not a Mac user, I am saddened by his death. He was a visionary of our generation, a great man. Who knows what impact history will assign to his work? Like many, I was, also, struck by his age at death--in this case, 2 years younger than me. Each day counts, folks; use them well!

best,

Barbara


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: SINSULL
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 08:54 AM

Can't help but wonder what else he had up his sleeve. Jobs was always thinking twenty years ahead. An amazing man and a sad loss.
Mary


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 06:23 AM

ditto

sandra (iMac user)


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 05:12 AM

One of the greatest men of our generation. His life was too short.

Rest in peace, suffering is now over.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 05:07 AM

I was so sorry when I heard this sad news yesterday. I opened Safari on my Mac this morning and a large photo of him appeared.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: GUEST,Wolfgang momentarily without cookie
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 04:57 AM

English headline in a German newspaper:

"7 billion people without Jobs"

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: GUEST,The Lamenting Whelk
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 04:56 AM

As a graphic designer, the first time I saw a Mac Plus in action I new my life would change. It's hard to recall just how profound a paradigm shift the Apple Mac caused in the 1980's. I knew I could concentrate on the job in hand rather than spend hours doing finished artwork and paste-up, have all those typefaces at my disposal . . . it was a wonderful feeling.

I've used Macs ever since. A total Apple fanboy and proud. Where Jobs lead, others merely followed in his wake. He was responsible for all these wonderful Star-Trek gadgets that we now take for granted, driving innovation even so his competitors struggled to keep up. They might have had faster components, better this and that, but it's what they did with them that matters and no-one comes near Apple for innovation. Jobs understood that getting the job done and making things easy was important, he made powerful technology simple to use.

I doubt we'll see his like again. In today's crass commercial world innovators like Jobs would be pushed out by bean counters and the countless, talentless hangers-on in middle-mamagement, sales and projects who thrive in large corporations these days, feeding on the abilities of the talented few for their own benefit.

Steve Jobs has passed, RIP. A golden age of technological innovation has passed, and that should be mourned too.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Will Fly
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 03:56 AM

The first time I ever came across one of these I was amazed. Still am, in a way...


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 12:27 AM

Amazing how much he did in his short lifetime. A lot of people are going to really miss him.

SRS


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 11:56 PM

The response is really quite amazing. Here is the NY Times Bits Blog with live updates on the reaction to Steve Jobs death. The NY Times front page (online) has the story featured, along with this and a number of other items, including readers' comments scrolling.

~ Becky in Long Beach
writing on my MacBook


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Charley Noble
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 11:18 PM

Far too young to die.

But he certainly made a major contribution to the world.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 10:49 PM

The first Apple commercial, during the 1984 Super Bowl game.

I've rarely used Apple products, but I am glad that keeping up with Apple has made a lot of the products that I do use much better.

RIP

SRS


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 10:42 PM

Becky, thanks for the Apple Magic link and the quotation. Our first computer was a TRS80, but I later worked for an agency which had MACS and I really did love it.

Saddened to learn he has died and that it came too damn soon, imo. What wonders he wrought.

RIP,

kat


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: GUEST,999
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 10:14 PM

"Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 09:26 PM

Sorry - that was me above...
Sincerely,
Gargoyle"

Gargoyle, I knew it was you when I saw the first post, and I loved it.

At times, you are alright.

Peace.

999


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Alice
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 10:09 PM

It was hard for me to find the words to describe how Steve Jobs' genius impacted me in the way he brought elegant design to the world.
This is my blog post, Rest in Peace, Steve Jobs, and thank you for the Mac I love.

Alice


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 10:06 PM

Obituary in the San Francisco Chronicle

"Death is very likely the single best invention of life," he said. "Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life ... have the courage to follow your own heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become."

~ Becky in Long Beach


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 09:54 PM

NY Time obituary, which runs to an unusual 5 screens.

A friend at Microsoft shared Bill Gate's Facebook post:

"I'm truly saddened to learn of Steve Jobs' death. Melinda and I extend our sincere condolences to his family and friends, and to everyone Steve has touched through his work. Steve and I first met nearly 30 years ago, and have been colleagues, competitors and friends over the course of more than half our lives. The world rarely sees someone who has had the profound impact Steve has had, the effects of which will be felt for many generations to come. For those of us lucky enough to get to work with him, it's been an insanely great honor. I will miss Steve immensely."

And I saw this earlier today:

Apple magic

~ Becky in Long Beach


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 09:26 PM

Sorry - that was me above...

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Sorry...so sorry....so veeerrrrryyyy sorry....no aspburggins to the GLBT community .... "the sark" is intended for the English monarchy of the Mudcat (My Facebook was flooded with OVER-WHEELMMING negative thoughts/feelings/vibes/F..U..s/ A clarification was necessary.

Consider yourself lucky 999 spoke up for you --mudelf


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 09:18 PM

the queen is dead ... long live bill gates
Long Live BILL GATES


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Genie
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 08:53 PM

Oh, no! I guess this is not earthshattering news, but I did not expect it quite so soon.   I feel like I've lost a friend, even though I did not know him.    And, yes, I am a devoted Mac user, pretty much from the first times I ever used a home computer of any sort.   But I think I'd consider his death a loss even if I were not.

RIP, Steve, and thanks for all your vision and persistence.   Spaw said it well.

Genie


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: BTNG
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 08:44 PM

Even if you're not an APPLE acolyte or product owner, it was one hell of a ride, Jobs gave our world, and massive thanks for that is due

RIP Steve Jobs
(February 24, 1955 – October 5, 2011)


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: GUEST,999
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 08:20 PM

Amos, you're so right.

He gave Apple a new meaning, even more than the Beatles ever did.

One seriously bright individual.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 08:20 PM

Legacy and Impact..............Steve Jobs. Thanks for having one and leaving the other for generations to come.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: Amos
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 08:07 PM

THis is a great loss to the world. His career was an amazing series of tumbles and soaring leaps, and his brilliance and sheer demanding insistence on seeing his visions come true were legendary in the industry.

RIP, Steve. It was great.



A


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Subject: Obit: Steve Jobs
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 05 Oct 11 - 07:52 PM

Apple says Steve Jobs has died

Associated Pres
05 October 2011

CUPERTINO, California — Apple says the company's co-founder Steve Jobs has died. He was 56.

In a brief statement the company said Jobs died Wednesday. He had been battling pancreatic cancer.

John


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