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Tech: Computer virus

gnu 12 Oct 11 - 10:43 AM
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Subject: Tech: Computer virus
From: gnu
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 10:43 AM

Should I / can I do anything about this ?...

File: C:\Users\Gary\AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java\Deployment\cache\6.0\2\4a5c3582-464b55b1 Action: This file could not be disinfected. It was quarantined instead.

Virus: Java.Exploit.CVE-2010-0840.E
Virus: Java.Exploit.CVE-2010-0840.E
Virus: Java.Exploit.CVE-2010-0840.E
Virus: Java.Exploit.CVE-2010-0840.E
Virus: Java.Exploit.CVE-2010-0840.E


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Subject: RE: Tech: Computer virus
From: Kevin Adams
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 11:04 AM

this is what it sugests on the Java site -

1.From the Start button, select Control Panel.
2.In the Control Panel, open the Java Control Panel.
3. Click on Settings button under Temporary Internet Files.
4. Click Delete Files button at the Temporary Files Settings window.
5.Click on OK button at confirmation dialog


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Subject: RE: Tech: Computer virus
From: gnu
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 11:45 AM

Then it tells me it can't proceed with my internut settings. Odd to me.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Computer virus
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 02:11 PM

Disinfected means that your AV was able to remove the malicious part of the file so that you could safely open/use the file.

Quarantined means the entire infected file was placed where it can't be opened or run.

Most AV programs won't just delete a file, since the infection might be contained in a file that's important to you and you might want to attempt disinfection using other methods - or you might just need to know what it was to work around its removal, perhaps by getting a clean replacement for it. Your AV program should provide a way for you to look at what's in the quarantine folder so that you can decide what to do if blocking use of the file affects your computer.

Quarantine has the same effect as deleting/removing the file, so you shouldn't really need to do anything more to assure that the machine is safe.

If an infection got into a Java applet that you need, you should be able to replace the applet by updating Java, or you can wait for Java to offer it when it updates automatically. (Check Control Panel|Java to make sure you're set up for scheduled - monthly - updates.)

Removing files in quarantine is not usually necessary, since they're safely "out of operation on the machine" and knowing what's been removed - by looking at the list of quarantined objects - might be helpful if a problem with machine operation appears later.

The Microsoft Malware Protection Center indicates that this infection exploits a vulnerability in older Java versions, so an update of your Java might prevent a recurrence.

Microsoft previously provided Java updates with Windows updates, but due to a copyright dispute Java is now available only from Sun Microsystems/Oracle. It's recommended that you install "Java Update" (this is the Windows version) to allow automatic access to updates.

Many sites offer free Java downloads, but not all are safe. You should get "anything Java" only from java.com.

John


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Subject: RE: Tech: Computer virus
From: gnu
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 02:33 PM

Okay... but I can't update it as per my post above. It says to check my server and proxy settings but they work for all the other stuff... like Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Computer virus
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 02:46 PM

Hey, gnu. That's the point where Chongo normally levels a loaded gun at the CPU (he's not so stupid as to aim it at the monitor) and says, "Okay Mister Virus, you got 5 seconds to come outta my computer and get outta my life or I'm blastin' you straight into eternity. One! Two! Three! Four! Five!"

BLAM!!!!

He's gone through a lot of computers, so I don't really recommend this method, but he does seem to enjoy it. Elvis did something similar with the TV once, I'm told.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Computer virus
From: gnu
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 03:42 PM

Can I / should I uninstall Java and reinstall?


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Subject: RE: Tech: Computer virus
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 04:05 PM

Java just overwrites itself and updates....no need to uninstall first.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Computer virus
From: gnu
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 04:21 PM

But,,, once again... it will NOT update. It says my internut settings are messed up and it cannot access the internut.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Computer virus
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 04:23 PM

I can't see any harm in you trying your uninstall then install, gnu.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Computer virus
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 04:32 PM

At one time keeping some older Java versions was recommended because some websites required an obsolete version. Java now says all updates are "backward compatible" so the latest is all you need.

The update site (or the installation program) may ask for permission to uninstall old versions before installing the the latest. If they ask, I'd let them.

In IE, managing applets like Java is usually done in the browser. You can turn applets on/off easily, but that doesn't really remove them. I don't know how other browsers manage them.

You have to go to Control Panel to actually take them off the machine. As with AV programs, once you install the latest version it's a good idea to check to see if there are updates available for that version, since they don't necessarily update the downloadable base file everytime they post an update patch.

John


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Subject: RE: Tech: Computer virus
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 04:43 PM

It says my internut settings are messed up and it cannot access the internut ...

Maybe that's why in Control Panel | Java almost all the things you can change say "only advanced users should make changes here, because it can f**k up your machine."(?)

Removing/uninstalling Java might let the computer revert back to letting the browser control web access(?) or you may need to reset browser settings. If necessary, remove Java, and then you might run through your browsers' controls and look for "restore Defaults" buttons. Since you've probably made other "preference" settings, you'll then want to trim things up, but starting from default settings probably will be easier than trying to back out things from where you are now. If you figure out what to "change back" it will probably be by accident, working from your current position.

John


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Subject: RE: Tech: Computer virus
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 11 - 02:04 PM

Ahhh... it wasn't the settings. It was, ahhh, welll, me. A while back, there was a scam going around about the auto update checker and I blocked it in the firewall while awaiting advice from a geek. I blocked both versions and didn't turn one of them back on. I don't "see" as well anymore even when I have my glasses on.

It was a PICNIC error... Problem In Chair Not In Computer.

Thanks for all the comments and advice.


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