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Lyr Req: Steamboat Bill (Shields/Leighton)

rdginfsv@biblio.org 28 Apr 97 - 03:52 PM
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Subject: Steamboat Bill
From: rdginfsv@biblio.org
Date: 28 Apr 97 - 03:52 PM

Looking for the lyrics to the folksong Steamboat Bill.


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Subject: RE: Steamboat Bill
From: Bob Henrickson
Date: 29 Apr 97 - 06:20 PM

I'm looking, too. All I can remember is "Steamboat Bill, steamin' down the Mississippi, Steamboat Bill, a mighty man was he.Steamboat Bill,steamin' down the Mississippi, tryin' to beat the record of the 'Robert E. Lee.'"


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Subject: Lyr Add: STEAMBOAT BILL (Shields/Leighton)
From: Gene Graham
Date: 05 Jun 97 - 05:14 PM

STEAMBOAT BILL
Words, Ren Shields; music, Leighton Bros.
New York: F.A. Mills, copyright 1910

1. Down the Mississippi steamed the Whippoorwill,
Commanded by the pilot, Mister Steamboat Bill.
The owners gave him orders on the strict QT
To try to beat the record of the Robert E. Lee.
"Just speed up your fire; let the old smoke roll.
Burn up all your cargo if you run out of coal."
"If we don't beat that record," Billy told the mate
"Send my mail in care of Peter at the Golden Gate."

CHORUS 1: Oh, Steamboat Bill, steamin' down the Mississippi,
Steamboat Bill, a mighty man was he.
Oh, Steamboat Bill, steamin' down the Mississippi,
Gonna beat the record of the Robert E. Lee.

2. Up then stepped a gambling man from Louisville
Who tried to get a bet against the Whippoorwill.
Billy flashed a roll that surely was a bear.
The boiler it exploded, blew them up in the air.
The gambler said to Billy as they left the wreck,
"I don't know where we're going but we're neck and neck."
Said Billy to the gambler, "I'll tell you what I'll do:
I'll bet another thousand I'll go higher than you!"

CHORUS 2: Oh, Steamboat Bill, he tore up the Mississippi.
Oh, Steamboat Bill, the tide it made him swear.
Oh, Steamboat Bill, he tore up the Mississippi.
An explosion of the boiler got him up in the air!

3. The river's all in mourning now for Steamboat Bill.
No more you'll hear the puffing of the Whippoorwill.
There's crepe on every steamboat that plows those streams,
From Memphis right to Natchez, down to New Orleans.
The wife of Mister William was at home in bed
When she got the telegram that Steamboat's dead.
Said she to the children, "Bless each honey lamb,
The next papa that you have'll be a railroad man!"

CHORUS 3: Oh, Steamboat Bill, missing on the Mississippi,
Oh, Steamboat Bill is with an angel band.
Oh, Steamboat Bill, missing on the Mississippi,
He's a pilot on a ferry in the Promised Land!


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Subject: RE: Steamboat Bill
From: GUEST,harpgirl
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 02:52 PM

anyone know the chords?


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Subject: RE: Steamboat Bill
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 05:32 PM

Ain't hardly a folksong--composed for a movie to tune of Casey Jones.


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Subject: RE: Steamboat Bill
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 06:00 PM

Steamboat Bill was a classic film starring Buster Keaton in 1928.

Who wrote the lyrics?? Appeared about 1940?. Riley Puckett recorded it in 1971.
There is a 'folk' version from 1958 in the Wolf Collection: http://www.lyon.edu/wolf collection/songs/daughertysteamboat1248.html


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Subject: RE: Steamboat Bill
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 06:11 PM

Whoops! I is wrong.
"Steamboat Bill," lyrics Ren Shields, Music Leighton Bros., Leighton bros. Publication, 1910, by F. A. Mills, NY.
Music at Levy Collection.
"Down the Mississippi steamed the Whipperwill, commanded by that pilot, Mr. Steamboat Bill."


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Subject: RE: Steamboat Bill
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 06:13 PM

http://levysheetmusic.mse.jhu.edu/Box_154/fullgifs/154.160.001.mus.JEPG for full sheet music.


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Subject: Lyr Add: STEAMBOAT BILL (Shields, Leighton, 1910)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 01:26 PM

Lyr. Add: STEAMBOAT BILL 2
Shields and Leighton Bros. 1910

Down the Mississippi steamed the Whippoorwill.
Commanded by that pilot, Mister Steamboat Bill.
The owners gave him orders on the strict Q. T.,
To try and best the record of the "Robert E. Lee."

Just feed up your fires; let the old smoke roll,
Burn up all your cargo if you run out of coal.
If we don't beat that record, Billy told the mate,
"Send my mail in care of Peter to the Golden Gate."

Chorus:
Steamboat Bill, steaming down the Mississippi,
Steamboat Bill, a mighty man was he,
Steamboat Bill, steaming down the Mississippi,
Going to beat the record of the "Robert E. Lee."

Up then stepped a gambling man from Louisville,
Who tried to get a bet against the Whippoorwill.
Billy flashed a roll that surely was a bear,
The boiler exploded, blew them up in the air.

The gambler said to Billy as they left the wreck,
"I don't know where we're going but we're neck and neck."
Says Bill to the gambler, "I'll tell you what I'll do,
I'll bet another thousand I'll go higher than you."

Chorus:
Steamboat Bill, he tore up the Mississippi,
Steamboat Bill, the tide it made him swear,
Steamboat Bill, he tore up the Mississippi,
The explosion of the boiler got him up in the air.

River's all in mourning now for Steamboat Bill,
No more you'll hear the puffing of the Whippoorwill.
There's crepe on every steamboat that plows those streams,
From Memphis down to Natchez down to New Orleans.

The wife of Mister William was at home in bed,
When she got the telegram that Steamboat's dead,
Says she to the children, "Bless each honey lamb,
The next papa that you have will be a railroad man."

Chorus:
Steamboat Bill, missing on the Mississippi,
Steamboat Bill is with an angel band,
Steamboat Bill, missing on the Mississippi,
He's a pilot on a ferry in that Promised Land.

Steamboat Bill, words Ren Shields, music Leighton Bros., copyright 1910 by F. A. Mills, NYC. Original sheet music at Levy Sheet Music.
Steamboat Bill


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Subject: RE: Steamboat Bill
From: harpgirl
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 02:05 PM

thanks Q


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Subject: Lyr Add: CASEY BILL (from Earl McDonald)
From: RWilhelm
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 02:18 AM

Maybe not a folk song but it has been folk processed. Here is Earl McDonald's version recorded in the 1920's, staring both Bill and Casey.

CASEY BILL

Now, down the river came Steamboat Bill,
Spied Casey Jones coming over the hill.
The engine was a-puffin' and the boiler was hot
While the folks on board done the turkey trot.

The railroad run down 'longside the bank.
Casey crawled out from behind the tank.
Bill said to Casey, "You're a racing man.
Get up your steam and go as fast as you can."

Casey 'n' Bill, down the Mississippi,
Casey 'n' Bill, all full of glee,
Casey 'n' Bill, down the Mississippi,
Tryin' to break the record of the Robert E. Lee.

Now down the river about a mile below
Was the place where they had to go.
They both were running neck and neck.
When they reached the bridge gonna be a wreck.

So Casey reached up. The whistle he blew.
The drawbridge opened to let him through.
They both come together and they both must die,
'Cause the race was over and it was a tie.

Now in the wreck it was a shame.
There was no one that knew their names.
When the wives got the message their husbands was dead,
They both raised the river with the tears they shed.

The little kids didn't seem to bother
When someone told them that they lost their father.
One said to the other, "Now, don't cry and fret.
We don't need no daddy; ma's a suffragette."

And when they died, no one know.
Up to heaven is where they wanted to go.
St. Peter said, "Boys, you must relate
Something good you done to get through this gate."

Bill said, "I know at one time
We gave 20 cents to a man that was blind."
St. Peter said, "You know that don't go, Bill.
So you can take your 20 cents and go to Jeffersonville."


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Subject: RE: Steamboat Bill
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 01:32 PM

In The Traditional Ballad Index, an early recording by Arthur Collins, 1911 (Columbia A-1005), is listed. The Index names Mills as composer of the music but he should be listed as the publisher (see above postings).
Collins and Byron Harlan also recorded "Casey Jones" for Columbia (A-907), in 1910.
(Casey Jones was copyright 1909 by Newton and Siebert, but first appeared in print in 1908 in "Railroad Man's Magazine." See threads on Casey (Kassie) Jones)

Earl, what company recorded "Casey Bill"? Date?


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Subject: RE: Steamboat Bill
From: masato sakurai
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 02:10 PM

Arthur Collins and Ed Meeker's reacordings [audio] are here (The Cartoon Pop Music Page), with Mickey Mouse's whistling of "Steamboat Bill" in Steamboat Willie.


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Subject: RE: Steamboat Bill
From: RWilhelm
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 04:13 PM

Q,

It was recorded by Earl McDonald's Original Louisville Jug Band and I think the year was 1927. I don't know the company. I have it on the Yazoo compilation "Ruckus Juice & Chittlins, Vol 2." A great CD but the notes are a little light on specifics.


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Subject: RE: Steamboat Bill
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 08:57 PM

I will have to look for that cd next time I get a few bucks together. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Steamboat Bill
From: masato sakurai
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 12:32 AM

From Blues and Gospel Records 1890-1943, 4th ed. (p. 572):
EARL McDONALD'S ORIGINAL LOUISVILLE JUG BAND

Lucien Brown, as; Cal Smith, bj; Benny Calvin, md; Earl McDonald, j/v-1; ensemble v-2.
Atlanta, Ga.                   Wednesday, 30 March 1927

143806-2    Casey Bill - 1                         Co 14371-D


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Steamboat Bill
From: GUEST,Capt. Randy
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 11:19 PM

I have a player piano roll for Steamboat Bill, but there are no lyrics on the roll. Anyone collect piano rolls?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Steamboat Bill
From: RWilhelm
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 12:11 PM

Not a collector but I've got a bunch if you're buying.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Steamboat Bill
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 26 Mar 13 - 12:08 PM

The old cylinder recording of Steamboat Bill can be heard here:
http://cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/search.php?queryType=@attr%201=1016&query=Steamboat+Bill&num=1&start=1&sortBy=&sortOrder=id

There are two verses and a chorus missing in the DT and on this thread.
It is the 2nd and 3rd verse and the second chorus.

Bill he gave the signal for to ------ on steam
Loudly blew his whistle just to clear the stream
The sky along the river was a-getting mighty black
From the smoke that came a-rolling from the old smokestack

Listen says the fireman to Steamboat Bill
We haven't coal enough aboard the boilers to fill
Billy quickly told him as he gave the wheel a turn
Feed the boilers with the ------ 'till we get coal to burn

Steamboat Bill tearing down the Mississippi
Steamboat Bill, my how Billy cussed
Steamboat Bill tearing down the Mississippi
Got to beat that record if the boilers bust

There are a couple of words that I can't catch so I would appriciate
someone filling them in!
         Thanks,
                Sandy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Steamboat Bill
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 26 Mar 13 - 12:15 PM

Sorry clicky failed
Steamboat Bill


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Steamboat Bill
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Mar 13 - 12:30 PM

The cylinder recording found by Sandy differs in lyrics from the 1910 lyrics published by Shields and Leighton Bros.
A copy of the sheet music also is at American Memory.

Can't help with the lyrics on the cylinder recording. My ear couldn't catch it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Steamboat Bill
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 26 Mar 13 - 12:40 PM

Thanks for trying Q!
Also a correction; it is the third and fourth verse on the recording.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Steamboat Bill
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 26 Mar 13 - 01:58 PM

Bill he gave the signal for to crowd on steam

The other line sounds like:

Feed the boilers with the crew until we get coal to burn

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Steamboat Bill
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 26 Mar 13 - 02:00 PM

I was going to add, that seems a bit heartless! (I accidentally unclicked preview when I submitted).

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Steamboat Bill
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 26 Mar 13 - 03:42 PM

There are in fact two versions of Steamboat Bill recorded by Edward Meeker in the cylinders at The Cylinder Preservation And Digitization Project. Both were recorded in 1911.

Number 2 in the list (10513: Edison Standard Record) is virtually identical to the sheet music listed above (Steamboat Bill 2), differing in only a couple of words. (Incidentally the transcription should read: Try to beat the record...).

Number 1 in the list (728: Edison Amberol) is the version Sandy linked above and is (again virtually) identical to the sheet music version given above, but with the 2 verses and chorus inserted after the first chorus of the sheet music.

I've looked at several copies of the sheet music online and they all omit this new addition, so I don't know where they came from (yet!)

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Steamboat Bill
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 26 Mar 13 - 04:24 PM

Thanks Mick!
I think you aced it with those missing words although "crowd on steam" sounds a strange term. I also did more research and found those two releases by Edward Meeker as well. The first was in Feb. 1911 as below and the second that I linked to earkier with the extra verses was in April 1911. Arthur Collins' release was in June 1911 with the original verses but became the bigger hit.
Meeker Feb.1911


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Steamboat Bill
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Mar 13 - 07:45 PM

Crowd; crowd on. To put pressure on, fill up, etc.
Not uncommon as a slang expression. Here are a few from J. E. Lighter, Historical Dictionary of American Slang.

1836, Weingartner "Slang Dictionary: To put the pressure on (someone or something)
1867, General Stuart- Crowd 'em with artillery.
1867, Mark Twain- She crowded Lewis until he swore.
1908, New Broadway- I crowded Guiseppi a little.... (to explain something to me)
1929, Hammett, Maltese Falcon- Don't crowd me.

To give forcibly:
1899, Ade, Fables- The Boss met her as she went out and crowded three dollars on her..
1912, N. Y. Tribune- To crowd the bases (baseball)

To crowd one's luck:
Runyon- I was wondering if I could crowd my luck....

Crowd the mourners
1841, To add to one's difficulties. Several quotations on this one.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Steamboat Bill
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 26 Mar 13 - 09:42 PM

Yeh, thanks Q! That makes sense as slang of that time.


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