BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out

Subject: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 02:29 PM

A long last these trouble makers are to be kicked out.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: gnu
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 02:41 PM

GOOD! It's about time.

Who are they?

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: gnu
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 02:41 PM

Where is St Paul's?

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 02:50 PM

gnu, there is a St. Paul's in Toronto on Bloor Street.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 03:02 PM

They are everywhere. He is a popular Saint.

Apparently the "wasters" are the "Occupy" protesters. For a folk forum, we see a lot on right wing, reactionary statements. Perhaps some of our members would appreciate artists like Toby Keith and Hank Williams Jr.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 03:05 PM

gnu, maybe he means the town of St. Paul here in the "Little Ukraine" of Alberta. Are they going to kick out the Anglos?

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: redhorse
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 03:06 PM

how did I guess this was one of bozo's threads?

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 03:12 PM

St Paul's Cathedral in London, England.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: BTNG
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 03:19 PM

well Bozo I', sure you'll be pleased to hear that Graeme Knowles, the dean of St Paul's, has stood down with immediate effect, saying his position has become 'untenable'

if you can read, here are further details (not the Daily Mail I'm afraid)

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 03:31 PM

But the Dean is a religious man who follows teachings of justice and honour. He is therefore by definition a dangerous leftie wastrel and beneath the contempt of bonzo.
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: gnu
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 03:40 PM

They are camping out on church grounds? It is beyond decorum and it is disrespectful. Unacceptable.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 03:50 PM

They were invited by the church you plonker.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: gnu
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 04:02 PM

Oh? I guess I didn't read the fine print. The gist of it that I scanned briefly seemed to say the Church didn't want them there.

What's a plonker dickhead?

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: BTNG
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 04:08 PM

The Dean resigned because he basically supported the protesters, hence mt question to Bozo The Clown

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 04:43 PM

Oh, that English church. In Canada, the one in Toronto usually is the first one thought of. In the U.S. it is St. Paul's Chapel (Episcopal) in New York, on Broadway, where George Washington once worshipped.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Wesley S
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 05:32 PM

Maybe it's the St Pauls that's at the center of the universe and we're all supposed to know where it is. But details are always appreciated.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: GUEST,999
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 05:40 PM

St Paul's Cathedral, London, England

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: gnu
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 05:42 PM

Easy... easy... I wouldn't have even bothered to ask if I thought it was gonna be such a point of contention.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 05:45 PM

Yeah, gnu, looks like there are preferences.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Wesley S
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 05:48 PM

Oh - THAT St Pauls. I've been there before. It's pretty nice - but it's getting old. Any chance they'll tear it down and build a new one in it's place? Something with a more modern look? Something that will attract the tourists?

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: BTNG
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 06:16 PM

The city was thinking of demolishing St Pauls Cathedral, London, beside the River Thames, in South East England, Northern Europe and building another stadium for The Olympic Games, it's too late now, but the matter is still under consideration.

By the way Toronto, Ontario, Canada is considered to be the centre of the world (at least by Torontonians anyway)

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 06:16 PM

A lot of money in selling stuff from outmoded ball parks but I don't know about churches.
The NY Times Store offers "Authentic Yankee Stadium freeze-dried grass sod" in a glass case for $99.95, and bricks for $179 and up. An authentic seat back is $275.00.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 06:53 PM

" ... but it's getting old. Any chance they'll tear it down and build a new one in it's place? Something with a more modern look? "

A bank, perhaps?

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: gnu
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 06:58 PM

"By the way Toronto, Ontario, Canada is considered to be the centre of the world..." No, of the universe. Ferriners eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 07:06 PM

Could the highly insulting title of this thread be changed, by any chance?



Where many of the St. Paul's Protestors can be found:

'Occupy The London Stock Exchange' - Facebook

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: ollaimh
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 12:13 AM

i don't love toronto but i have to say it gets way too much slagging.it's a big city with all that brings both good and bad but i found in general people there were much more polite than out west. and i never saw any sign people thought toronto was the centre of the universe. that's a western insecurity. a lot of peple have angst there about not being nearly as advanced culturally as new york.

now it's a big city and it can be cut throat at times. but really guys have anyonf you who trot out that crap about torontonians thinking they are the centre of the universe have you ever actually lived there?

as i say people are polite, very genreous to musicians and very tolerant of diversity. a bit cold but the cultural oportunities are vast.

if you are on the wrong side of the ethnic and class divide vancouver calgary and regina are violent and nasty places.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 01:19 AM

Well, it does not look like the plan to demolish St. Paul's is being taken very seriously. The demolition plan comes from some group that wants to protest something, and they figure that demolishing St. Paul's will make their point clear.

All of us Mary Poppins fans would be so upset if St. Paul's were to be torn down. It's where I fell in love with Julie Andrews. I wonder if the birdseed still costs tuppence a bag...

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 03:40 AM

Hopefully the scum who are there will be gone very soon!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: theleveller
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 03:45 AM

The eviction of the demonstrators will be the pinnacle of this brave and poular demonstration - what more effective way could there be of showing just how deeply the invidious influence of money has infiltrated our society? It shows that the Church of England is still 'the Tory party at prayer' and that the moneylenders are not just welcome in the temple but are, in fact, controlling it. So. well done demonstrators - today St Paul's, tomorrow Westminster Abbey?

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 04:04 AM

"Hopefully the scum who are there will be gone very soon!!!"

Oh, are you going there to protest today then? I had no idea. Yes, I most certainly hope you will be gone, very, very soon, Bonzo.

The Dean of St. Paul's has resigned, for he does not want them gone. You see, he believes that Jesus would be out there with them, carrying their beliefs for a better world....

A world without the arrogant, up their own arses, financially contented and bugger everyone else, selfish, cold, opinionated, arrogant prats.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Penny S.
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 04:10 AM

Since scum is what rises to the top, I suspect it is better applied to others.

Steve Bell had a very good parody of "Feed the Birds" on his cartoon on Saturday, which I will seek out.

Found instantly...

"All around the Cathedral the pigs and the fat cats look forward to clear each tent,
And though you can't see them you know they are laughing at a rise pushing 50 per ce-e-e-e-ent.
Feed the Rich, 2 million a bag etc etc..."

Which also counters my own perception that the right tend to use dismissive insults of those they don't like more than the left.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 04:11 AM

The St. Paul's here is gone now. It was raffled off by the American Buick Dealers Association and is now owned by a Jewish proctologist from Pawtucket named Seymour Heinie.............


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 04:46 AM

Joe, I was talking to the lady in our local pet shop the other day about the cost of bird food...She told me that the peanuts, in particular, have almost doubled in price this past year, due to The Corporate Bastards holding back the stock, which they buy en masse, then stash away in their warehouses for a few months, years, until they can get the price they want...

I reckon The Bird Lady of St. Paul's would have a tough job selling those bags today. ;0)

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Lox
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 05:45 AM

There has been a spate of resignations from the St Pauls clergy who support the protesters rights to be there.


It is only the banks that don't want them there.


Its the Gospel in reverse ...

Book of Bonzo chapter 1 verse 1

And the money Lenders did cast out the prophets from the temple ...


Ironic no?

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Arnie
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 06:21 AM

I still can't see why the Dean and Registrar of St Pauls have resigned. It's possible to voice a bit of opposition to your boss (the Bishop & Chapter in this case) without resigning. They could have joined the protesters in camping out for a day or two which would have made their point just as effectively. However, I doubt either of them will be down the job centre on Monday swelling the ranks of the 2m unemployed. No doubt the good old Church of England will relocate them to other ministries. The pay may not be great but you get a free house plus some fancy workwear - oh and a new job when you resign the old one.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 06:39 AM

Same inane drivel!!

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: David C. Carter
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 06:52 AM

They should knock it down and build a campsite!

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 07:26 AM

The Church elders who aren't backing the protesters want to watch their backs.
During the Peasants Revolt of the 1300s, the Archbishop of Canterbury was one of the first to get the chop ( i.e. his head chopped off!)

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Lox
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 07:54 AM

The clergy at St Pauls probably wouldn't be allowed to join in as they can't be seen to have political allegiences.

However they would be free to resign positions of status any time they chose.

The resignation is the closest thing they can do to expressing allegience with the protesters and I think it is both a very powerful statement and a sign of great sincerity and courage ... I admire them a lot!

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Wesley S
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 07:56 AM

Sorry Lizzy but the price of peanuts has gone up due to drought. I live in peanut country. Besides - if they stashed away their peanuts for years what they would end up with is - old nuts. And they already have those in abundance.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 08:38 AM

Tescos Jumbo salted peanuts cost a mere 43p for a 200gm pack a couple of years ago, and now cost more than double. The Waitrose 200 gm pack however seems to have been reduced in price!

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: andrew e
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 08:51 AM

Well I must have missed that news item.
I read two of them have resigned. When are all the others going?
Hope the choir stays there though.

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Lox
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 09:02 AM

Well i think the Dean and the Canon Chancellor is enough to be starting with.

It ain't the janitor!!

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 09:25 AM

Is that the cleaner by another name?

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: DMcG
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 09:37 AM

The thread title made this spring to mind:

"God bless the King, I mean the Faith's Defender;
God bless—no harm in blessing—the Pretender;
But who Pretender is, or who is King,
God bless us all—that's quite another thing."

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 10:10 AM

Great video here:

BBC's 'Inside Out' - Occupy The London Stock Exchange

They even have a University Tent! :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 10:25 AM

Did anyone know that entry to St Paul's is £14:50 per person? That's a lot dearer than a packet of peanuts!

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: Mayet
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 10:27 AM

The Right Rev Graeme Knowles. has become the third cleric to leave his post as a result of the Occupy London protest, after the canon chancellor of St Paul's, Giles Fraser, and the part-time chaplain Fraser Dyer

The land that the tents are camped on is owned by The City of London Corporation who are expected to serve legal papers on the protesters today after a warning to remove their tents

So who are 'The City of London Corporation' exactly?

The City has a unique electoral system. Most of its voters are representatives of businesses and other bodies that occupy premises in the City. Its ancient wards have very unequal numbers of voters. In elections, both the businesses based in the City and the residents (who constitute about 3.5%) of the City vote making it analogous to the historical 'rotten boroughs'

The Corporation has been described as existing 'outside many of the laws and democratic controls which govern the rest of the United Kingdom' Several governments have tried to democratise the City of London but all, threatened by its financial might, have failed.
More information about this
'medieval unaccountable' organization

You would be correct in assuming I support a campaign against the rewarding of risky (and bad) investments etc by the financial institutions and ordinary people reaping the result

But I don't feel that any cause is assisted by exaggeration or inaccuracy, it may even cause harm.

In the interest of which may I point out that commodity trading, while a form of investment, is directly affected by the current relationship between supply and demand for a given commodity. Any factor that limits the supply may cause the value of the remaining quantities of the commodity to gain in value very quickly. (and vice versa of course.)
True, there was a rise in peanut commodity trading in May and June this year of just under 10% - as reported elsewhere
"Scorching heat, little rain and the draw of more lucrative crops could produce one of the smallest peanut harvests in recent memory." thus pushing the price up."
As also confirmed by Wesley S
Be careful storing peanuts too as even unshelled, they will only keep from four to six months in refrigeration.

Also - not quite Disney

It is unlikely to find vendors selling small packets of bird seed these days as the number of feral pigeons in Britain's towns and cities has doubled over the past few years despite attempts to encourage people to stop feeding them as it is felt they could constitute a health hazard Some counties have introduced culling

However, unless you wish to employ your own method of culling birds around St Pauls or anywhere else, please take the advice of the RSPB for spring and summer feeding and
'avoid using peanuts, fat and bread at this time, since these can be harmful if adult birds feed them to their nestlings. If you feel you MUST put out peanuts, only do so in suitable mesh feeders that will not allow sizeable pieces of peanuts to be removed and provide a choking risk'.

Facts are really just so boring, and should never get in the way of a 'story'. LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 11:04 AM

Boiled and canned peanuts will keep for years.   The key thing here is that they are boiled properly in brine. It doesn't matter if they're canned properly because they already taste like shit when they're freshly boiled!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Wasters at St Paul's to be kicked out
From: GUEST,999
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 11:23 AM

"Did anyone know that entry to St Paul's is £14:50 per person? That's a lot dearer than a packet of peanuts!"

Ya think so, Shimrod?