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Subject: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Nov 11 - 09:50 PM

???

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: gnu
Date: 05 Nov 11 - 09:54 PM

No. It's a Canuck plot. Yer welcome.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: olddude
Date: 05 Nov 11 - 10:01 PM

It actually is a railroad plot I believe ... don't mess with RR time Bobster, us old RR watch collectors will be throwing food at ya :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: GUEST,Uncle_DaveO
Date: 05 Nov 11 - 10:03 PM

Of course not. It was proposed, as I understand it, by Benjamin Franklin, and I've never heard him characterized as a Red (although he was, of course, a revolutionary).

Regardless of who "invented" it, it's a very workable system, of great benefit to the nation.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Nov 11 - 10:15 PM

Benjamin Franklin was a commie...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Nov 11 - 10:29 PM

Bobert, you're only annoyed with DST because you have to reset all the clocks and things and you have to read the manuals every time you do it.

But think -- you're getting an extra HOUR of sleep, of life! Why, if you set your clocks back far enough you could even be six years old again!


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Nov 11 - 10:39 PM

I'm all over that, Rap... Ya' know, I always wanted a 2nd chance at 1st grade...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Nov 11 - 10:44 PM

Might not take you six years this time, huh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: GUEST,mark-s(on the road)
Date: 05 Nov 11 - 10:59 PM

Just don't mess with the clock in the barn.
Cows need to be milked at the same time every day and the chickens
get confused.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Nov 11 - 11:34 PM

Daylight Savings Time is just fine. I love the extra hour of daylight, and I'd like to have it every day. Why not abandon Standard time? I think it's Standard Time that's a Capitalist plot.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 05 Nov 11 - 11:38 PM

I think it is really wrong to even think of doing it..it is messing with something too primal and built into our biology..plus not all the world goes on and off it so it will confuse other countries and inconvenience them for no benefit that I can think of..other than kids walking to school..but that is offset in the afternoon..does my computer know this is going to happen or do I have to reset it? mg


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Beer
Date: 05 Nov 11 - 11:42 PM

Dead on Guest Mark...
Oh!!! I can hardly wait.... I have time to drink another 6 pack.
ad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Nov 11 - 11:51 PM

Actually, clock time is a capitalist plot. In pre-industrial times, only a handful of people in specialized occupations needed to know much more than a rough approximation of the time. A farmworker's day was determined by sunrise and sunset. But a factory worker needed to be at work when his boss told him to be there, even if it was in the middle of the night. It was the capitalist factory owners who forced workers to be dependent on clock time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Gurney
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 01:09 AM

Mark, from what I've seen, confusion is the default state for chickens.

I understand that Britain went onto double daylight savings during WWII, two hours forward. I also understand that it saves a noticeable amount of power, making industrial workers go to bed earlier.

Here, the people who complain loudest are dairy farmers, because the milk-truck comes earlier, and they have to wake the cows up earlier. Why the issue them with wristwatches is beyond me!


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 01:02 AM

My dad, who really wasn't religious, said Standard Time was "God's Time" and good enough for him. Me, too.:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: GUEST,Donal
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 01:25 AM

I don't what happened above, the damned thing took off on its own, but the mention of double daylight saving took me back to WWII when we kids had to go to bed at eight o'clock and it was still broad daylight for seemingly ages after that, we hated it and played up in consequence. On the broader subject, we've been fighting about it - daylight saving - for years here in W. Australia, four referenda with trials, in twenty years and all, I'm happy to say, defeated.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 02:38 AM

I have never had difficulties with understanding which way the clocks have to be turned thanks to the mnemonic 'spring ahead, fall back'. The headache for me is caused by trying to figure out which of the seasons is which.

##############################

"Might not take you six years this time, huh?"

Rapp, that ain't very nice to say. Bobert told me it only took him three years!

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Years ago a buddy of mine after a lengthy period of wassail grabbed an axe and went after the rooster shouting, "The %$^#&@* sun's not up yet ya stupid &%^ #$ % *^&$%. You are breakfast and ^$%& Colonel Sanders, etc, etc." Funny as all get out to those of us who were still awake and wassailing. To top it off, he couldn't catch up to the rooster. Well, all his shouting got the ducks quacking, geese honking, dogs barking, horses whinnying, hens cluck-clucking, and the rooster kept up his cockadoodledoo-ling. Even some coyotes chipped in. If the cows hadn't been in the east forty, they'd have been mooing away, too. It got noisy enough to wake the half dozen of us to the fact it was pretty nippley outside in just t-shirts, so we moved indoors and over the next half hour or so nodded off to sleep in the living room, variously sprawled on couches, chairs and pieces of floor. By 6:00 am, silence reigned, interrupted only by occasional snores. At approximately 8:00 am we were jarred awake by the most gawd-awful gut-wrenching screeching cacophany of sound y'ever heard. It seemed like all the banshees of Hell had been loosed in the room. Six guys literally left their sleeping positions and jolted up shaking and trembling. There stood 'George' with an electric guitar on treble and a big Marshall amp on full reverb and maximum volume singing Wild Thing. After 30 seconds, he put the guitar away, gave us all a dirty look and went back to sleep. After a few minutes we stopped shaking enough to crack open a few beers, have some smoke(s) and ponder the events of the past few hours. Thirty-six years later, every time the clocks need changing I wonder what finally happened to that rooster. I heard from George a few months back, but I didn't ask. Some things a guy just doesn't want to know.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 03:49 AM

Commie plot? Don't know. I'm a night owl, so early darkness and late light make me happy. On Saturday when time is going to change I set my clocks for Sunday's time but don't change my watch until bedtime Saturday night. If one adheres to the old spring watch idea that it is better to move a clock or watch ahead than back, it is much easier to set clocks and watches one hour ahead than one hour back. With digital clocks, it is not too bad to set them 11 hours forward, which is really one hour back. With analogs, I just unplug them for an hour (or deactivate my watch's battery). How do I know when the hour is over? Well, I look at my digital clocks or i set a windup kitchen timer!


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 04:27 AM

It's flashing 12:00 on my old VCR, if that helps.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 06:24 AM

I hope it is. We could do with some.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 06:27 AM

Do with 'Some what', Richard? Daylight; savings; time; commies; or plots?

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 06:36 AM

I'm with Joe. And I never seem to get that extra hour. I was wide awake for an hour in the middle of the night, then my dear husband woke at his usual hour and wanted to chat. Grrr.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 07:16 AM

Commie plots - preferably successful ones.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 07:23 AM

What do you call a successful one? ~~ the Russian sub-continent 1917 - 1980s. Oho, highly successful, I'm sure. That why it has survived to this day so successfully.

Er...

Or the Cuban paradise? Maybe. Well, that's successful in a way, I suppose. Wouldn't you be happier living there,maybe?

In general, tho, they haven't been that 'successful', have they?

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 07:59 AM

It doesn't matter what Time you pick as long as you stay with it and don't keep putting the wretched clocks back and forward. I still haven't adjusted to our clocks going back last week. I wake at MY usual time, only to find it's 5am, not 6am. By 9pm my eyelids are drooping. The evenings are now black as the hakes by 5pm. Horrible!


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 09:28 AM

I picked Sidereal Time for my own personal time years ago.

If you don't know, Sidereal time is the hour angle of the vernal equinox, the ascending node of the ecliptic on the celestial equator. The daily motion of this point provides a measure of the rotation of the Earth with respect to the stars, rather than the Sun. Local mean sidereal time is computed from the current Greenwich Mean Sidereal Time plus an input offset in longitude (converted to a sidereal offset by the ratio 1.00273790935 of the mean solar day to the mean sidereal day.) Applying the equation of equinoxes, or nutation of the mean pole of the Earth from mean to true position, yields local apparent sidereal time. Astronomers use local sidereal time because it corresponds to the coordinate right ascension of a celestial body that is presently on the local meridian.

I use it because I'm a celestial body.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 10:13 AM

Ahem... may I offer my services? My personal parlor trick is resetting VCRs, digital clocks, microwaves...etc. to the correct time without using a manual.
I can come twice a year to adjust all those pesky gadgets to your local time. All I require is transportation, a couple meals and a few songs (from those who can sing).

Such a deal!


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 10:49 AM

Sounds like a deal, Bill. Don't understand it myself. It was fine in the department store. Kept perfect time there. Got it home about twenty years ago, plugged it in and it's been flashing like that ever since. Finally had to put tape over it because the flashing was bugging me. I just scraped the tape of and yup, sure enough, it's still flashing 12:00. Otherwise the VHS works OK.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Amos
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 11:20 AM

I believe the driving force behind time standardization was the railroads, who needed it for obvious reasons--they connected all the local zones and couldn't change their schedules for everybackwater's neighborhood opinion.

As for DST, I don't think it makes a whole lot of sense. After all, if you want to sleep another hour, why not just get up at 5:30 instead of 4:30?

Do the cows care?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 11:35 AM

MtheGM - Hey, I'd be absolutely delighted to live in Cuba...if I had a means of making a living there and the other basic legal and practical arrangements in place there. The weather's nice (with the exception of an occasional hurricane), the people are wonderful, the social life is marvelous, the attitude to life is relaxed and friendly, the elections are honest, and it's altogether a really nice place to be.

However, my job, my property, and all my practical and legal basics are presently established in Canada. Therefore, I am glad to live in Canada, because it's a pretty nice place to be too. (except for the winter weather)

If all my practical and legal basics were established in France, I'd be happy to be there too.

Ditto for Vietnam, Norway, Denmark, Germany, Sweden, Italy, and a variety of other places I can think of.

Communism's got nothing to do with it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 11:45 AM

Amos, the cows do care. They are very compassionate creatures. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 11:59 AM

If DST had been a commie plots, it would have been dragged before the Senate in the HUAC hearings.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: BTNG
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 12:09 PM

There are parts of North America, where it doesn't matter...the time never changes so we don't have to worry about changing the time on the clocks, twice a year!


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 12:24 PM

"TIME SYSTEM IN SASKATCHEWAN
FACT SHEET

The provincial government (of Saskatchewan) received requests to adopt Daylight Saving Time, has examined the issue in detail and has decided to retain the current time system established under The Time Act for all of Saskatchewan. This issue is a divisive one with no consensus apparent within the whole province.

Saskatchewan is naturally located within the Mountain Standard Time (MST) zone which runs from just west of Winnipeg, Manitoba to just east of Lethbridge, Alberta.

Under The Time Act, Saskatchewan adopted Central Standard Time and therefore shares the same time as Alberta during the summer months and the same time as Manitoba during the winter months.

Prior to the implementation of The Time Act in 1966, the question of time was the responsibility of municipalities. Under The Cities Act and The Towns Act of the day, bylaws could be passed at any time through the conduct of a plebiscite on the question of observed time. This resulted in a patchwork of time zones in Saskatchewan with communities using Central Standard Time, Mountain Standard Time or Daylight Saving Time as their local time.

The Time Act of 1966 was a compromise solution that allowed all of the province to observe Central Standard Time. During the summer months all of Saskatchewan observes Central Standard Time. Only the Battle River (Lloydminster) Time Option area follows Mountain Standard Time during the winter. The rest of the province is on Central Standard Time year round."

Lloydminster has a neat history.

The History of Lloydminster

The Lloydminster area was first settled in April, 1903 with the arrival of the Barr Colonists, approximately 2,600 people from England. The new settlement was named in honour of Rev. Lloyd for his efforts in leading the colonists.

Lloydminster is derived from Rev. Lloyd and the word "minster", meaning "mother church". The newly founded hamlet of Lloydminster was located astride the 4th Meridian in the Northwest Territories. When the provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan were created in 1905 and the 4th Meridian selected as the inter-provincial boundary, the Village of Lloydminster was split in two. The Alberta portion of the divided community was incorporated as a Village in Alberta in July, 1906, while the Saskatchewan portion was incorporated as a Town in Saskatchewan in April, 1907.

This peculiar situation resulted in the duplication of all municipal functions such as the creation of two separate municipal councils, two municipal offices and two fire departments. Common sense prevailed and the two communities were amalgamated into a single municipality - the Town of Lloydminster, by an Order-in-Council of both provinces on May 20, 1930. On January 1, 1958 the Town of Lloydminster received its charter as the City of Lloydminster and became the 10th City in both provinces."

(I know a fellow in Quebec who lives in a house that straddles the Canada-US border. He watches TV in Canada but gets snacks from his fridge in the US. Don't know what will happen to him and his home when Homeland Security builds the wall.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: BTNG
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 12:27 PM

yup that Saskatchewan for you...I know, I live here LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 12:45 PM

you're getting an extra HOUR of sleep

Rubbish. They just take it back from you in the spring.

It's a bloody silly idea anyway. I think governments do it just do it so that twice a year they can feel important, with everybody doing what they are told, even though it makes absolutely no sense.

Here is a world map showing where it's done (th e blue bits)and where it's not done. The encouraging thing is the orange part, showing where they have given up doing it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: gnu
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 01:27 PM

"...other than kids walking to school..but that is offset in the afternoon..."

Not here.

Think of the children! >;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Bert
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 01:46 PM

I'm with GUEST Eliza on this as I wake up an hour earlier and can't get back to sleep for weeks after they put the clocks back. I think that we should all get the home phone numbers of our representatives and spend that hour every day calling them.

And what McGrath says is really the truth of it and it bears repeating.

"It's a bloody silly idea anyway. I think governments do it just do it so that twice a year they can feel important, with everybody doing what they are told, even though it makes absolutely no sense."

It is really a Bureaucratic Plot. And unrestrained bureaucrats are the biggest threat to modern society.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Bert
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 01:49 PM

And isn't it funny how just by changing the name of something they can get people to agree to it.

If they were to come out and say "Everyone has to get up an hour earlier" there would be worldwide protests and the whole idea would die quickly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 02:24 PM

Where's "here" gnu? Not where moist people live, I think. Maybe up near the Arctic Circle it might make sense. So that's where to keep on doing it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Gurney
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 02:44 PM

Well, that's Bobert's assertion that DST is a commie plot shot down in flames! One glance at McGrath's map shows that the commies don't do it.

I suppose he could mean that they are trying to bring down the western world by making them get up earlier. But they'll have to get up earlier themselves if they want to do that!

All DST means to me is that I get an extra hour of sleep in Spring. Sounds silly to say that, but it is the Morning Chorus of birds that wakes me up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: GUEST,Arkie
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 02:47 PM

All available from the internet for the curious. Here are some shortcuts for the semi-curious who want to avoid the search.

Rationale

B. Franklin Essay


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: gnu
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 02:53 PM

In Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada and in a great percentage of the world, DST optimizes the use of daylight for working, saves energy and also allows children to walk to school more safely. I cannot understand why some people think that such a simple concept which has such benefits is SUCH an inconvenience to them. It's not all about you... is it?

Oh, I suppose we could change the time of work and study and whatever to acheive the same results but it's the SAME thing. Suck it up people. It ain't rocket science. If ya wanna change the time ya hafta be at work, go for it... petition the governments so you don't hafta spring back and fall forward. Just remember... it's still gonna be the SAME to acheive the SAME benefits. The ONLY difference is that you don't hafta change yer clocks and that businesses will have to put up new sign's for their hours of operation, change their adds in the yellow pages, change their telephone ansering machines... need I go on? GEEZE OH EH?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 03:18 PM

New Brunswick, gnu? That's way south of us here in England. The same as the middle of France. You must have fiercely early school hours if the kids would be walking to school in the dark if the clocks didn't go back in the autumn. Or they must be walking an awfully long way to go to school.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 03:22 PM

I'm with you, gnu. Try running a business when yer in St John's and yer customer is in Victoria. And if a place like the UK thinks it has difficulties, imagine living in Russia:

"Russia Reduces Number of Time Zones

Published 23-Mar-2010. Changed 4-May-2010

Update: Russia will most likely make a final decision on time zone changes in the fall (autumn) of 2010, First Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov announced on Friday, April 30, 2010. There are currently three time zones in the Russian Far East, and the presidential envoy to the federal district, Viktor Ishayev, believed that one more should be dropped.

Starting Sunday March 28, 2010, Russia will have nine time zones instead of 11. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin recently signed decrees to abolish the time zones of four Russian regions."


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Ed T
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 05:41 PM

I suspect North Korea and Cuba are the only true "commie" countries, anymore. Cuba does DST, North Korea does not. So, it's a 50-50 "commie plot", at best.

Who does it and who does not


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Joe_F
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 06:29 PM

Noncommie comment


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: Bert
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 06:30 PM

gnu says "I cannot understand why some people think that such a simple concept which has such benefits is SUCH an inconvenience to them."

Because it is an even simpler concept to get up and go to bed when you need to or when you want to and not when the Government decides that you should. Then nobody is inconvenienced, and the benefits will be reaped by only those who want them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: BTNG
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 06:40 PM

oh right it's a government plot now, not a "commie plot"

Conspiracy theorists unite you have nothing lose but sleep!


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Daylight's Savings Time a Commie Plot
From: gnu
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 07:50 PM

Oh come on, read my lips.. or my entire posts? Do you honestly believe that this has been adopted by MANY jurisdictions around the world because they are stupid or want to control you?

Unfuckingreal to me.


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