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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Vic Smith Date: 21 Nov 11 - 03:38 PM I wrote some way above this:- "Whatever is wrong with both these forums, they are pretty much 100% spam free. Long may it remain so. " ... and wouldn't you know, I have just spotted my first ever Mudcat spam posting in this thread....bet it is not there for many minutes! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: BTNG Date: 21 Nov 11 - 03:16 PM Yeah Ken, sorry about that, I probably wasn't prepared to wade through all the mudcat-related nonsense |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: GUEST,Ken Date: 21 Nov 11 - 02:50 PM I think you will find that was last week's message - you need to use the scroll bar through a swamp of Mudcat-related stuff and a supportive message from Max. Today's one says "This board went AWOL again over the weekend. Mondomix who host it have today moved it to a new server and IP address, which took a little while to propogate around the net (which would sound jolly authoritative if I knew what it meant, I'm just being parrot-esque). Hopefully recent flakiness now sorted." |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: BTNG Date: 21 Nov 11 - 02:32 PM It all looks nice and clean, sparkly infact Mr Anderson says: "Apologies. The fRoots Forum has been AWOL for a couple of days, presumably as a result of server glitches over in the Eurozone. Normal service hopefully now resumed. *touches wooden stake and consumes garlic . . . " |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Vic Smith Date: 21 Nov 11 - 06:33 AM It looks like the dusting is now complete - for the moment. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: GUEST,Ken again Date: 21 Nov 11 - 05:54 AM I spoke too soon, now it says "Froots is down for maintenance. Please excuse our dust... Please check back shortly!" So that's it then. Froots just needed a bit of dusting. Not unreasonable after 30 odd years I suppose, though a bit of a redecorate wouldn't do them any harm either, some new carpets and curtains and a lick of paint, clean the windows, fix the roof, stuff like that. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: GUEST,Ken Date: 21 Nov 11 - 04:35 AM It was working again when I looked at it just now. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: GUEST,Jon Date: 20 Nov 11 - 03:18 PM Mondomix host the fRoots Forum from Paris and presumably are still working on the maintenance that I mentioned in an earlier post (though there is a much less helpful notice on the site at the moment). That notice is coming from the froots phpbb software and is complaining about a database table being broken. There is a chance Mondomix are not aware of this one. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Vic Smith Date: 20 Nov 11 - 02:17 PM Mondomix host the fRoots Forum from Paris and presumably are still working on the maintenance that I mentioned in an earlier post (though there is a much less helpful notice on the site at the moment). Mondomix host a number of folk/world/roots music forum including the Charlie Gillette:Roots Around the World forum, a really useful forum for world music fans though since the death of Charlie and the demise of the BBC Radio London programme that was only continued for a few months after his death, it has less vitality than previously. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: BTNG Date: 19 Nov 11 - 03:58 PM well Mondomix could be: http://www.mondomix.com/ an essential online resource for worldwide music and culture. Music, cinema, literature, society, travel, events, reports, artists. but in this case I think it's just a piss take of Asterix The Gaul |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Western Suze Date: 19 Nov 11 - 03:53 PM What is Mondomix? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: GUEST,999 Date: 19 Nov 11 - 11:52 AM Honi soit qui mal y pense. Old French It means (loosely) 'fu#k them wot thinks bad of it'. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Dave Hanson Date: 19 Nov 11 - 09:27 AM Honi Soi Qui ? ah fuck it. Dave H |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Vic Smith Date: 19 Nov 11 - 09:22 AM Ah but, Dave, you have to pay attention to Victorix when he describes how Mondomix affects fRootsixtisix... Gaul Almighty! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Will Fly Date: 19 Nov 11 - 09:17 AM Ah but, Dave, you have to pay attention to Victorix when he describes how Mondomix affects fRootsixtisix... (with apologies to Goscinny and Uderzo) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Dave Hanson Date: 19 Nov 11 - 09:10 AM I don't speak much French Vic but when I posted earlier the 503 error wasn't there, just an, ' unavailable ' message. Dave H |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Vic Smith Date: 19 Nov 11 - 05:26 AM Dave Hanson écrit:- "It's gone again, looks like because of the current economic climate fRoots message board is being turned off at weekends to save electricity." Mais non! Á http://froots.net/phpBB2/index.php, il dit:- Serveur dédié Dedibox en maintenanceErreur 503 - Service temporairement indisponible ou en maintenanceLe site internet que vous contactez est actuellement en maintenance, merci de renouveller votre demande ultérieurement.Vive Mondomix! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: GUEST,Jon Date: 19 Nov 11 - 05:17 AM It's giving "Erreur 503 - Service temporairement indisponible ou en maintenance" so it probably is down for maintenance. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: GUEST,Sam Date: 19 Nov 11 - 04:22 AM Looks as though. FFS. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Dave Hanson Date: 19 Nov 11 - 04:04 AM It's gone again, looks like because of the current economic climate fRoots message board is being turned off at weekends to save electricity. Dave H |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Stewie Date: 18 Nov 11 - 04:15 AM My apologies to BTNG. --Stewie. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Max Date: 18 Nov 11 - 01:53 AM SPAM, not a troll. We deleted it right after your previous post Stewie. BTNG was talking about that. Very different by the way, spam and troll. Spam has a rational intent and no emotions; trolls are insidious sociopaths who believe only in your discomfort. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Stewie Date: 17 Nov 11 - 11:55 PM I'm not a bloody troll! I was simply echoing the remarks you made to Max. Get a grip! --Stewie. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: BTNG Date: 17 Nov 11 - 10:07 PM Oh dear a troll.... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Stewie Date: 17 Nov 11 - 07:18 PM What Sam just said. --Stewie. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: BTNG Date: 17 Nov 11 - 07:11 PM I was kidding and you know it, Max. You do a fantastic job with this site, there are not enough thanks in this world to offer you for providing the service. Sam (BTNG) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Nov 11 - 07:05 PM ;-D |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Max Date: 17 Nov 11 - 05:43 PM Boy, do I know how to close down a thread. Don't even have to use the Close Thread button. Just like my personal life, they scatter. This is why I keep my dog on a chain. Well, my mama says she loves me... but she could be lying too. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Max Date: 16 Nov 11 - 06:59 PM No, but it does self destruct... so we got that going for us. And quit teasing me. If you had any idea how much I type in day, you'd be amazed I got anything right. I used to have a volunteer just to correct my spelling errors. I'm growing. And I got pull around here, you should be careful, I got a big red button here that must do something dangerous that I'm just itching to push. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: BTNG Date: 16 Nov 11 - 05:54 PM Polite Manor, is just off the by-pass, on the other side of Basingstoke, many a fine house party was hosted there. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Stewie Date: 16 Nov 11 - 05:45 PM Max, will it also automatically correct such lapses as 'polite manor of speech'? --Stewie. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: BTNG Date: 16 Nov 11 - 05:00 PM I just noticed that..." a dim and distant folk war...?" What you been smokin' then? Where do some people get their ideas? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: GUEST,999 Date: 16 Nov 11 - 04:50 PM LOL, Max. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Max Date: 16 Nov 11 - 04:33 PM and therefore and colour... we just had a meeting about the differences of our languages and how to build room for that into the mudcat 2.0 system just yesterday. I won't have to learn, the system will automate it. HA! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: GUEST,999 Date: 16 Nov 11 - 03:04 PM AND, Max is gonna learn how to spell honour real soon, too. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Max Date: 16 Nov 11 - 02:37 PM They are what you make them, just as anything else in life, they'll reflect what you bring in with you. An aside, if I may. Lurker, it would be a travesty if you just lurked. I am blown away by your insight, intellectual compassion, skillful, perhaps purposeful use of brevity, and your eloquent, articulate and polite manner of speech. It is just smart without making me feel stupid, bravo. We would love to have you as a member if you would care to consider it. We would be made richer, and the honor would be ours. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: BTNG Date: 16 Nov 11 - 01:12 PM Thanks for that erudite observation, Uncle Boko. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Bonzo3legs Date: 16 Nov 11 - 01:01 PM However Folk Roots magazine is well produced, even if many of the toothless wonders about whom articles are written are quickly passed over! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: BTNG Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:35 PM Vic, I read Ian's posting, and it's a shame about the spamming, on both boards. I have a Yahoo account, but, I dunno, I keep hearing the security issues about them as well, funnily enough the same security nightmares, as GMail supposedly has, I say supposedly because, I must be one of the lucky ones, I've not had a problem yet. Now, you watch, having said that, I'll get a problem *LOL* Cheers! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Spleen Cringe Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:32 PM I was avoiding this thread as I had made a few assumptions what it would be like, which was an example of Mudcat, ahem, not at its best. Actually I was wrong - with a few honourable and predictable exceptions, it's not that bad. As another person who posts both at fRoots and Mudcat, I don't see why there has to be any sort of dick swinging contest between the two, and I'd hazard a guess that neither Max nor Ian would want that either. Both fulfil different functions and that's ok: I certainly use them differently. I don't see any evidence that the fRoots board is peevish and supercilious as Lurker suggests (but then I would say that because I post there!). I reckon that's just a misreading of Ian's sometimes waspish humour. I also don't agree with the suggestion made elsewhere that Mudcat is full of deranged lunatics (though there are obviously a few: no names, no pack drill, don't feed 'em). I've overwhelmingly met some really decent folks here. Not that anyone asked, but I actually find that some of the posts I most enjoy reading (at either board) are by people who post on both - Vic and Matt springing to mind, for instance. Anyway, for something completely different, now I'm off to the Terrascope forum for a spot of psychtastic weirdness. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Edthefolkie Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:29 PM Er, regarding Vic's question up the thread somewhere - I didn't see Juldeh Camara with Boka Halat but I did see Musa, and Zem Audu, several times. How is Roger Watson these days? I have just been reading his Model Railway Club notes from our old school mag - 1964, oh God. And now, back to the fray chaps? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Vic Smith Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:17 PM BTNG wrote:- "well apparently fRoots does ban something other than people, the use of a GMail account as an e-mail address, when registering for boards membership, something about a security nightmare". Not my position to, I realise, but could I try to explain this? GMail is a favoured by the almost unbelievably high number of spammers that try to post their trash adverts etc. on the fRoots forum. (Copies of these attempts to register come to me, so I know). Attempts to join the forum are filtered manually by a volunteer who does this in her spare time. This sometimes does mean that there is a delay between attempts to register to join the forum but genuine posters do get through to join in the end. So yes, it is a "security nightmare" but the upside of that is that no spam posts appear on that forum.... .... or on this one for that matter, though how the adminstrators here manage to keep them out - especially with the ability to post as GUESTS - I really don't know. Actually, I don't want to know, because if the persistent spammers found this out, they may find a way around it. Whatever is wrong with both these forums, they are pretty much 100% spam free. Long may it remain so. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Steve Shaw Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:17 PM Well that puts me in my place. Say goodnight to the folks, Gracie... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: BTNG Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:01 PM The plot's fine from this point of view. Thank You...next |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: GUEST,Folknacious Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:00 PM Plot. Lost. Nurse! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: BTNG Date: 16 Nov 11 - 11:46 AM well apparently fRoots does ban something other than people, the use of a GMail account as an e-mail address, when registering for boards membership, something about a security nightmare...I. Anderson waffles on at great length about it, far more than is needed in my opinion, but in the same breath recommends the use of Hotmail! or Yahoo Mail!! Now talk about your security nightmares. Wasn't it Hotmail that got hacked into a few years back and it took Microsoft some fairly great length of time to realise it?....and Yahoo? well enough has been said about them to fill volumes. No, No, Anderson, it simply won't do. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: The Sandman Date: 16 Nov 11 - 11:26 AM let us get things straight, I have no problem with froots, Iam not very interested in their board and i rarely look at it, i have no ill feeling to ian anderson and i think his magazine does a GOOD job in promoting popularising and inevitably playing a part in roots music and its commercialisation. Im pleased that those people who enjoy his board are once again able to do so, each to their own, I agree with Ians international approach to trad music, and hope his magazine continues for along time. However,I take exception to people like steve shaw, who seem to delight in flaming and trolling and regurgitating ancient irrelevant trivia from other discussion forums. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Morris-ey Date: 16 Nov 11 - 11:15 AM From Max:"And for the record, my "refusal to moderate in even quite extreme cases" is called freedom of expression. And I am quite happy for my belief in this to be seen by the wider world. I understand how some are offended by this, as it forces a higher standard of accountability than some are capable of Plus, it requires the bravery and humility to hear other peoples opinions without a filter, and it demands prudence to remain civil while disagreeing with those opinions and defending your positions." "higher standards"?; "to remain civil"? Epic fail then... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: GUEST,Folknacious ex cook Date: 16 Nov 11 - 10:57 AM The problem seems to be between the editor of Folk Roots and about three people who contribute prolifically to Mudcat, I read it slightly differently in that the thread on Froots implies that the three individuals may have been banned from there because of complaints from other users about their behaviour. Laying the entire blame on their Editor seems a bit rich, then, even though the three in question seem to, but I suppose he's an easy target. But I do agree about individuals who spoil things for everybody else, like often happens on threads here. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: fRoots message board down? From: Bonnie Shaljean Date: 16 Nov 11 - 09:52 AM > It's folk music's very own Schleswig-Holstein Question Brilliantly put, Lurker. Hope you can be enticed out of the dark kingdom of Lurk to post more often - |
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