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GUEST,Stephen Canner 15 Nov 11 - 12:35 PM
Spleen Cringe 15 Nov 11 - 01:45 PM
Victor Mourning 15 Nov 11 - 03:05 PM
Spleen Cringe 15 Nov 11 - 03:22 PM
The Sandman 15 Nov 11 - 05:28 PM
Victor Mourning 17 Nov 11 - 11:13 AM
GUEST,Stuart Reed 18 Nov 11 - 05:33 PM
GUEST,Phil Beer 18 Nov 11 - 09:36 PM
moecurlythanu 19 Nov 11 - 10:56 AM
Mick Tems 20 Nov 11 - 06:11 AM
Victor Mourning 20 Nov 11 - 01:24 PM
GUEST 24 Mar 12 - 09:17 AM
bill\sables 24 Mar 12 - 09:04 PM
GUEST,Pete Bethell 29 Jan 14 - 10:48 AM
GUEST,Dean Van Jones 04 Jul 14 - 11:57 AM
GUEST,Stuart Amesbury - Folkal Point Music 31 Mar 15 - 11:14 AM
GUEST,Clive Pownceby 19 Mar 16 - 09:16 AM
GUEST,Stuart Amesbury - Folkal Point. 11 Aug 16 - 05:32 AM
GUEST,Pete Bethell. 03 Jul 17 - 11:36 AM
Bugsy 04 Jul 17 - 03:32 AM
GUEST,Stuart Amesbury / Folkal Point. 06 Sep 17 - 03:19 PM
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Subject: Folklore: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: GUEST,Stephen Canner
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 12:35 PM

Hi, folks,

I'm currently researching Alan Green's late 60s/70s UK family of labels: Folk Heritage, Westwood, and Midas. I'm currently just finishing up "framing" the info I have, which includes tons of info on the various artists and the records themselves (with a few holes still left to fill, of course) and am about to start reaching out to folks who appeared on the labels to arrange interviews etc, but before I did I thought I'd tap the Mudcat knowledge base first.

To keep the first question basic and to the point: I know much (much!) more about many of the artists on these labels than I do about Alan Green himself. Besides learning that he died a while back, rather young, in his late 50s, most of what I know about him is discographical and related to the records themselves, I don't know a lot about his background, etc.

Anyone out there from the old North West folk scene remember Alan and care to share any memories?

Thanks in advance,

Stephen Canner
The Victor Mourning
Austin, Texas


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 01:45 PM

Steve, have you an email address we can contact you at - or could you join so we could PM you?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: Victor Mourning
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 03:05 PM

New Mudcat name is Victor Mourning. I just sent you a PM with my e-mail address.

Thanks in advance!

Steve


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 03:22 PM

Ha! Beat you to it. Just emailed you via your website!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: The Sandman
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 05:28 PM

the best person to contact is joe stead, he lives in sowerby bridge west yorkshire, and sings with kimbers men


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: Victor Mourning
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 11:13 AM

Thanks, Joe was already on my short list of people to contact, I've now done so and he's been very helpful!

Steve


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: GUEST,Stuart Reed
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 05:33 PM

The Brighton Taverners recorded two albums for Alan in the late 70s. He
one of those producers who wore his expertise lightly and gave you the credit for what he miraculously recovered from some dud sessions.


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: GUEST,Phil Beer
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 09:36 PM

If you'd like to contact me through www.showofhands.co.uk I can provide you with large amounts of info regarding Alan and his label and can put you in touch with Paul Downes who probably spent more time there than any other musician.


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: moecurlythanu
Date: 19 Nov 11 - 10:56 AM

^ Interesting! I recently purchased an album by Paul Downes & Phil Beer called 'Dance Without Music.' It contains a song written by the wonderful Colin Wilson. Great stuff.


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: Mick Tems
Date: 20 Nov 11 - 06:11 AM

I remember recording a debut album called Gowerton Fair, with Sweet Folk All owner Joe Stead and Alan Green recording. Session musicians were Peter Davies on oboe, Mike James on melodeon, and Paul Downes and Phil Beer. It took only a day to record it!

Mick Tems


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: Victor Mourning
Date: 20 Nov 11 - 01:24 PM

Thanks, Mick. I've been in touch with Joe Stead and he's been amazingly helpful on getting at least a framework to start filling in the details on the whole Alan Green/Folk Heritage tale. I also do have your quote on Alan from your on site in my files:

'Alan Green was no slouch, but he insisted on a completely "dry" sound for folk records - a somewhat old-fashioned way to lay down tracks, methinks.'

Steve Canner


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Mar 12 - 09:17 AM

All I know is that my Folk Heritage album is now being sold on Amazon by a company called Lumi Entertainment - including my original material!

I don't know anything about this company or what they have to do with my album but certainly I've never had the courtesy of a single email telling me what was happening to the material - nor have I been paid anything in respect of royalties owed on the original material - which is MY copyright!


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: bill\sables
Date: 24 Mar 12 - 09:04 PM

I recorded with Alan Green way back in the late 60s or early 70s on his Westwood label WRS 027 The title was Bill Sables


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: GUEST,Pete Bethell
Date: 29 Jan 14 - 10:48 AM

You will have seen my name on many of Alans recordings.
Spent many weekends in Cheadle and later Mid Wales adding backing
to solo singers and duos.He worked for ICI as a chemist,working on
Savlon before setting up his own studio with redundant equipment from the BBC.


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: GUEST,Dean Van Jones
Date: 04 Jul 14 - 11:57 AM

the two four track machines he linked together were form ICI from the stories I remember. He designed and built his desk personally long before the standardisation of mixing consoles with optical limiter compressors on every single channel, being the first of its kind built in the UK by years! By the very early 80's Alan had moved onto Apple computers and had no need for his console, which had Neve bits in it lol. As it was built in the room where it was used for many years it could not be simply removed. One day Alan took out all the boards, passed me a pair of snips and told me to cut all wires near the soldered joints, which I did of course and will forever regret, I was only 11 so I've forgiven myself lol. Safely now in smaller bits Alan proceeded to bury it in a field on a mountain top in Mid Wales precisely where I can still remember. I know that he didn't want to sell it, he was a unique man, both determined and self motivated and a sound engineer in the truest sense of the word. The desk I believe often broke down in one way or another so he would get in there and fix it what ever it was and sound engineers today are just not capable of this kind of behaviour!He the last of his kind.


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: GUEST,Stuart Amesbury - Folkal Point Music
Date: 31 Mar 15 - 11:14 AM

Yes - how did Lumi Entertainment exactly acquire the ' rights ' to Folk Heritage and Midas Recordings artists and material?
The Folkal Point album has been available on iTunes since 2011 via Lumi.
I discovered this only today!
But it is not just Folkal Point, other artists that have contributed to the thread are equally aggrieved.
Nobody has received any notification of circumstances or any royalty payments.
Worse still - it seems as though Lumi sold their rights to this revenue stream in January, 2014 to a much larger company: One Media IP Group PLC.
Anybody involved, such as Folkal Point, need to be able to register their interest somehow, in order to receive their rightful royalties.
How could this have happened?
Does anybody have any positive suggestions?


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: GUEST,Clive Pownceby
Date: 19 Mar 16 - 09:16 AM

Whilst clearing out my loft, discovered an album with a wonderful erm, 'tacky' sleeve called "I Dreamed Of Highways" by the Rye Whisky Road Band.
How I got it, where it came from I've no idea. Folk Club raffle win?
1970s UK Country band - am I sitting on a fortune here!? Probably not huh?


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: GUEST,Stuart Amesbury - Folkal Point.
Date: 11 Aug 16 - 05:32 AM

Another company, Zeitgeist, is offering a CD version of Folkal Point for sale, via Amazon.
The quality is absolutely awful.
Be warned - DO NOT BUY THIS PRODUCT.
Zeitgeist claim copyright from 2015.
To date, Zeitgeist appear to have released ten albums.
Please can anybody identify who Zeitgeist might be?


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: GUEST,Pete Bethell.
Date: 03 Jul 17 - 11:36 AM

Hi LL.

I spent many weekends providing backing for Alan and Gordons
artists,if there is anything i can add to your list of contacts
let me know.

Do you know where i could find Bill Summersall ??.

Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: Bugsy
Date: 04 Jul 17 - 03:32 AM

Looks like the Zeitgeist/Lumi issue deserves a separate thread, don't it?

CHeers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: Alan Green & Folk Heritage label etc
From: GUEST,Stuart Amesbury / Folkal Point.
Date: 06 Sep 17 - 03:19 PM


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