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Subject: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 11:38 AM

I'd like to know how to record an internet radio programme. Can I do this direct onto the computer? Or can I somehow do it via my Zoom H2 recorder?

thanks


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 11:52 AM

It depends on where you're getting it from...sorta.

If you have a program like Screamer, RadioSure or Tapin (look them up)...which are all dedicated to nothing but playing radio from various sources... you can usually just push a button to have them record what you are listening to. These programs come with thousands of stations pre-set, and you can add any you find that they don't already know about.

You can also record whatever comes thru your sound card with programs like Audacity...and several others. You could possibly put your H2 into the loop, but by itself it won't directly access the radio program.

I'm sure you'll get other suggestions.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 11:56 AM

I just opened TapinRadio and it automatically added 700 new pre-sets it had found.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 12:04 PM

One more...but not free. Raima Radio has extra features.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: RTim
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 12:38 PM

I have successfully recorded by plugging in my Zoom H2, just like listening
thru headphones.

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Arkie
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 12:40 PM

Audacity is a free music editing program and with the proper settings will record anything that plays on your sound card. There is still much I do not know about Audacity including how to set the record sound level but it is fairly simple and works well enough for me. Once I have a recording, I highlight the sound waves and click amplify from the "Effects" menu. On the bottom toolbar you will find four boxes that will offer options which can be selected. In the first box I have "MME". The second will be the sound card which Audacity might find on its own. It should be one of the selections you get when you click on the little arrow on the right side of the box. The third box is the one that gave me some trouble. There are a number of selections available, but what works for me is the one naming my sound card followed by "Wave". The last menu box is a choice between Stereo and Mono. Audacity set three of the boxes for me. In the third box I did have to select 'wave'. However, when I downloaded the newer 'beta' version of Audacity I did not have change any settings. If you have not used Audacity there is an online manual that can be useful.

To record you simply click on the reddish round dot whenever you are ready.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 05:35 PM

Bill - are those programmes free to download?

Tim - which cable and sockets did you use? - surely not the usual ones used for transferring files (USB ports)?

I'll try Audacity, so many people recommend it for various things... but for the moment,I really want something that won't take me long to understand - that's why using Zoom would be ideal...

thanks


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 06:06 PM

Sue...all those except the last are free...I was just recording with Tapin earlier. (Radio Sure is said to be a 'bit' easier to operate, but Tapin seems to have plenty of stations and works fine.))


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Arkie
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 06:13 PM

I have used a Zoom to record church services and then run the recording through Audacity to split tracks and do whatever editing is necessary. Actually recording with Audacity will most likely be simpler.
1. Download Audacity if you do not already have it. If given a choice select the beta version.
2. Install on your computer.
3. Open Audacity and check the settings according to my earlier post.
4. Open the program you wish to record.
5. Click on the record button in Audacity.
And you are recording. If you have extraneous material at the beginning and end of the the recording it is simple enough to highlight and delete.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: RTim
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 07:33 PM

Suegorgeous - Just a single (Male to male cable) from the Line In on the Zoom to the Computer Earphone Jack input.

Tim


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 08:06 PM

Tim - I just tried it..... but the recording is far too faint, even if I turn the volume right down while recording.... :(


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 09:14 PM

It may require the sound levels on the computer AND the H2 to be adjusted.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 09:16 PM

Is there a specific program you are trying to get, or just the general ability. Someone might know an easy way.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Arkie
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 09:53 PM

There is an easy way after the initial set up. I just recorded a program broadcast on the Arkansas State Univ. station. I located the station, opened Audacity, clicked on record and turned it off when done. I did have to amplify the sound. I generally have a problem with volume when recording from the internet. Which may well be because I do not have much knowledge or skill in using recording software. But Audacity provides an amplification tool which seems to work pretty well to my ear.

Sue if you have Audacity or other sound editing software you might be able to adjust the sound with the mixing program.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: JohnB
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 10:54 PM

In Audacity. Highlight ALL of the wave. Click Effects, Normalize, set to -3dB if it is not the default and click it is done.
JohnB


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: GUEST,Bernieandred
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 10:55 PM

I've been using Total Recorder for a couple of years & I think it's great. Small charge, but well worth it.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 12 Dec 11 - 07:25 PM

hmm, after all that.... the show's presenter's just told me the podcast is downloadable, so I can get it that way (it's me on radio I'm wanting to record, by the way).

thanks though, cos I'll doubtless need all this info when I want to record from another station. :)


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 12 Dec 11 - 08:08 PM

... or are most programmes downloadable?


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 10:15 AM

The rule is... "If you can hear it over your computer, you can also save a copy." If there are ways to TOTALLY prevent one from getting a copy, I haven't seen them...yet.

Techniques vary because some sources make it 'easier', but it is always possible. (I sometimes get a program or video by finding it in the browser's cache...with a coded name... and renaming it and moving it.)


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 10:18 AM

Well, another thing I wanted to record was a friend's interview on Radio Bristol today. So at the last minute, with no other solution, I just stuck my Zoom in front of the computer speaker, with no wired connection - and it worked a treat! nothing like keeping things simple! :)


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Bainbo
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 10:24 AM

Audacity: I'm confused. I have it, and find it useful for editing and chopping up podcasts. But I still can't find a way of recording from the internet.

I'm running it on a Mac, and I've just downloaded the latest version. But, Arkie, I can't find anything about the soundcard, and I can't find the four boxes on the bottom toolbar. The only options I'm offered for input are Internal Microphone and Line In.

In that past, I, too, have had to resort to sticking the speakers in front of the inbuilt microphone and then leaving the room. Any advice?


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Will Fly
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 10:24 AM

If you're a Mac owner, there's a free utility called Audio Hijack. You select the sound source - Firefox, Spotify, etc. - and record as it plays. You can then split, top and tail if necessary with Audacity, Garageband or any other editor. The recording level is set automatically.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: peregrina
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 10:29 AM

wiretap studio--works well, easy to use. You can get a free trial for a certain amount of time, 30 days or something. Thereafter it still works but overlays recordings with an irritating sound track about free wiretap studio to induce you to buy the thing.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 11:40 AM

http://www.abyssmedia.com/isound7

I am using this which records and saves to file in real time in whatever format you require, for as long as you want. There is a 14 day tryout period, then it costs about £30 for the licence.

Seems to be very reliable indeed.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Bainbo
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 08:21 PM

Right. I think I've cracked it. For the Mac, anyway. Audacity doesn't seem to have the capacity on its Mac download to record what's playing through the computer, and Audio Hijack, as far as I can make out, is no longer free.

But Audacity recommends either using a loopback cable, to connect your line-out to your line-in, or using a free download called Soundflower - after pressing the Free Download button, go to Featured>Downloads>Show All in the left-hand column to decide which is best for your system. I've installed it, and it seems to work fine so far.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 10:10 PM

I still don't seem to be able to get Audacity to record from my computer's sound card. I think I was able to do it with my Windows Vista computer, but I've had Windows 7 for two years now. I think maybe there's something in Windows 7 that doesn't allow me to record from my sound card.
Anybody have any luck using Audacity to record from Windows 7?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Acme
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 10:56 PM

http://www.keepvid.com/. This one works very well.

SRS


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Arkie
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 11:26 PM

Joe, have you downloaded the latest Audacity Beta version. That is supposed to work, according to the Audacity site. I certainly cannot speak from experience. You have probably seen the link below but just in case:

Wiki


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 01:03 AM

Hi, Arkie-
Yes, I downloaded the latest Beta, and still don't seem to be able to record from my computer's sound card.
Has anybody had luck with Audacity and Windows 7, recording from the computer's sound card? I can edit audio files on my computer, but can't seem to find a way to record.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 03:25 AM

www.davee.com

It records everything in ...radio speeech...

Simple and free.

Sincerely
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 06:11 AM

You can record anything on your sound card with Freecorder, simplicity itself to use.

http://www.applian.com/freecorder5/


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: ChrisJBrady
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 07:00 AM

From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 10:10 PM

I still don't seem to be able to get Audacity to record from my computer's sound card. I think I was able to do it with my Windows Vista computer, but I've had Windows 7 for two years now. I think maybe there's something in Windows 7 that doesn't allow me to record from my sound card.
Anybody have any luck using Audacity to record from Windows 7?

-Joe-

====

Audacity works on XP and Win 7. Its just that you need to set up input as 'Stereo Mix' to capture the audio from your sound card.

'Stereo Mix' is usually already configured on XP. However with Win 7 you have to configure it yourself.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/39532/how-to-enable-stereo-mix-in-windows-7-to-record-audio/

====

Beware with Audacity that its default for input is 'Mic' and anything recorded will be distorted. You need to choose 'Stereo Mix' for sound card capture.

Also check Preferences that 'Software Playthrough' is unchecked.

If recording through an analogue-digital conversion device such as Griffin iMic then you need 'Software Playthrough' to be checked.

To adjust volume and levels you need to turn the sound up on the sound card. Then simply use the sliders for recording level and or o/p volume. But it the waveform that you need to watch. make sure that its not clipping on loud passages.

If you also install all the NyQuist add-ons (free) you can adjust the waveform for all kinds of audio effects. The most basic is to lift the volume, or do simple fade-ins or fade-outs. But these add-ons can also filter 'pops' or 'clicks' from say 78rpm records.

Incidentally you can record 78rpm records playing them at say 45rpm, then converting the waveform using a NyQuist add-on to increase the speed to 78rpm.

To save in MP3 format you'll need the Lame decoder - free. Try to save MP3 files at about 192kbps or higher.

[Links made live in this thread by MudElf---who wonders why it is too much trouble for posters to do it themselves.]


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 08:57 PM

JOE - O

go to davee.com -

try it



Sincerely,
Gargoyle

IT WORKS.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 25 Jan 12 - 09:23 AM

Just came across this other bit of software suggested by someone else:

Another way to record an internet radio programme

If anyone else tries this, do please let us know how it goes.

thanks
Sue


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 25 Jan 12 - 10:20 AM

Whether you can record from the internet or not is dictated by whether your PC has "stereo mix" enabled on the soundcard or not, and if indeed it can be enabled. It is on my work XP PC but is not on my home XP and Windows 7 PCs.

The only workaround seems to be a programme such as isound, mentioned above, which is not free. This programme saves in real time so you do not have to wait like you do in Audacity for a file to save.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 25 Jan 12 - 12:26 PM

Getting the link right helps:-

Davee.Com The official home of Scanner Recorder


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Jan 12 - 12:47 PM

unfortunately, that Davee software is very specific for 'voice', and handles only .wav files....not very useful for music. It is intended for shortwave radio enthusiasts.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: ChrisJBrady
Date: 25 Jan 12 - 12:52 PM

'Stereo Mix' can be manually enabled. Google 'enabling stereo mix' for hundreds of tips on this.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Baz Bowdidge
Date: 25 Jan 12 - 02:25 PM

For 6 years I've regularly used Total Recorder.
It records anything that goes through your computer as wav files. The TR pop-over resembles a hifi cassette recorder. Available worldwide UK c.£16.
Click Total Recorder
Early on I used Windows Movie Maker Audio for editing compilations but with restrictions and having to re-record to complete.
Now using Mixmeister Express everything is far easier with added EQ and tempo changes possibilities (I've added sound to videos, Youtubes, Mixclouds and done DJ mixes). c.£35
Click Mixmeister Express
For wav to mp3 I have a free converter (WAVToMP3).

~Baz~


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Subject: RE: Tech: How can I record from internet?
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Jan 12 - 02:43 PM

(Some nice software there... I know people who swear by Total Recorder. But we do need suggestions for freeware that do 'pretty good' for folks who only do occasional editing or capturing of this sort)
Audacity is one such...

Another is Wavosaur


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