British Folkies and singer songwriters

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 28 Jul 19 - 05:09 AM

I took Azoic's post to contain at least an element of irony/satire, tho the third sentence is just plain nasty, offensive and unnecessary.

However, it is true that the current political fiasco has spawned a number of new political songs, both serious protest type, and satirical. Many may not see the light of day beyond sessions and folk club floor spots, or be enduring, but it's these situations that make some songwriters put pen to paper.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jul 19 - 04:15 AM

Is it really useful to post recommendation in reply to a question posed eight years ago, just because some nationalist, xenophobe revived the thread (possibly only because it came up in a search for 'BRITISH' that he could latch on to)

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST,Observer
Date: 28 Jul 19 - 03:59 AM

I'd second Brian McNeill without a doubt, Peter Coe, Keith Marsden, Robin Laing, Ian Bruce and Kenny Spiers.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST,DHB
Date: 28 Jul 19 - 03:18 AM

Unusually for a Brexiter, Azoic is capable of expressing themselves coherently and does not type everything in capital letters. I therefore assume this is either meant as some sort of humour or Azoic is one of those people who will be profiting personally as the rest of the country goes down the drain. If the post is genuine, he knows nothing about the UK folk scene.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 28 Jul 19 - 01:38 AM

No one thought to mention Brian Peters?

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST,Vic at home
Date: 27 Jul 19 - 10:18 AM

Two of the great 'unsung' singer/songwriters - Mike and Lal Waterson. Why not try Bernard Wrigley, great guitarist though better known as a concertina player.
From my own area, Pete Morton.
Vic.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST,Jerry
Date: 27 Jul 19 - 09:53 AM

I know I’m British through and through
So to me it was a shock
To learn that that’s not wholly true
Descended from some mixed stock

I checked my DNA of sorts
Being a man of desperate means
They said like blue denim imports
I had dodgy foreign genes

Despising all other races
I’m sure that’s not my ancestry
To rid myself of such traces
I’ve erased those parts of me

You might think it rather brutish
But I had such parts removed
My right hand for being Jutish
Then the left when Saxon proved

My right arm was largely Norman
And my left of Viking kind
My legs amounted to Roman
That’s why I walked in straight lines

I lost my head for being Spanish
My chest for being Huguenot
My buttocks for both being Danish
I’m no side of bacon you know

I’m proud to say I’m now pure stock
Though not much of me is left
My foreign bits are all chopped off
All I am now’s one dick head.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST,alan whittle
Date: 27 Jul 19 - 06:06 AM

I seem to remember an American exam paper said there are six types of irony in Pride and Predjudice, and the poor sods had to try and work out them all.

I wonder how we read the book without appreciation and failing to spot all that irony.

I had to teach His Last Duchess, a poem by Robert Browning. I was discussing it with a friend and he gave me this great definition of irony.

Irony is when you say something, but mean something else.

Now what the something else might be in this case....?
maybe he or she is saying our singer song writers are shit and we have nothing to be proud of.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: alanabit
Date: 27 Jul 19 - 05:43 AM

I think (hope?) that I detect a note of irony in Azoic's post.
Two songwriters, whom I have not spotted as I have read this post quickly, are the late Cyril Tawney and Allan Taylor. I would like also to give honourable mentions to the late Derek Brimstone and Miles Wootton. I believe Harvey Andrews is still with us and Jeremy Taylor too. I thought they were both worth listening to.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: David C. Carter
Date: 27 Jul 19 - 05:37 AM

Azoic,WTF have your ravings,disgusting as they are,got to do with the

subject of this thread?

Go preach your ill informed bile someplace else.

There is enough polution around without you adding to it.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST,JoeG
Date: 27 Jul 19 - 05:31 AM

What utter xenophobic drivel and totally unrelated to this thread

The current cabinet is probably the most evil group of people ever to be in charge of running this country and I fear for our future as we lurch further to the right and all the nastiness it entails.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST,Azoic
Date: 27 Jul 19 - 03:59 AM

Like so many BRITISH folk musicians, there is an immense wave of national pride sweeping the UK this week with the appointment of the Dream Team selected by the new BRITISH Prime Minister.

Boris is a true patriot and I was delighted to see Jacob Rees-Mogg appointed speaker, a true BRITISH gent.

Now all the Polish and Romanian leeches coming into the UK for their free houses and benefit handouts will know their days are numbered, they even bring their grannies over for free NHS treatment.

Right-wing politics are sweeping across Europe and America has the greatest President in a generation.

Embrace the new dawn, liberalism is a form of mental illness.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 22 Dec 11 - 04:46 AM

Then theres this bloke Anon. - he's really shit hot at the old songwriting. He's written several of my favourites.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: My guru always said
Date: 22 Dec 11 - 02:53 AM

Barrie Temple, Lucy Burrow, Mike O'Connor - all excellent UK song-writers!

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 21 Dec 11 - 06:43 PM

Protip: Don't listen to Martin Simpson if you're prone to jealousy about guitar playing. Damn him being better than me. I'd still third him though, I do think he's rather excellent.

Two others: Ray Hearne and Sam Carter.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST,Woodsie
Date: 21 Dec 11 - 06:15 PM

Certainly Roy Harper and Wizz Jones

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 21 Dec 11 - 11:42 AM

I second Martin Simpson.

Many speak well of Reg Meuross.

Try Jon Loomes first CD Dreadful Symmetry.

If you like guitarists (and from your list above it seems to be so) you could try John James.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: BobKnight
Date: 21 Dec 11 - 06:40 AM

I'm a singer/songwriter. Scottish, and since someone mentioned travellers, I have a few traveller relatives. See/hear some of my songs (mostly) and some trad ones too on youtube.com
http://www.youtube.com/bobknightfolk

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 21 Dec 11 - 05:47 AM

Guest, if you like guitarists then Martin Simpson is one of the best around today. And Show of Hands are always worth a listen.

Also, sign up and become a 'catter: you'll learn a lot here, especially if you use the search functions as recommended by SRS (second post, up at the top).

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: JohnH
Date: 21 Dec 11 - 03:42 AM

@ GUEST- Go to "The Music Well" and use the jukebox there. You will get a variety of styles and can choose for yourself!

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 21 Dec 11 - 03:36 AM

Sorry ~~ confused. Certainly not late at all! Sorry Nic & Julia & Helen & Joe, can't think what I was thinking of. But we have had some lates, e.g. MacColl, mentioned. Hence my question.

~M~

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 21 Dec 11 - 03:18 AM

Roy Harper!

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: cptsnapper
Date: 21 Dec 11 - 03:12 AM

MtheGM: the LATE Nic Jones?

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 21 Dec 11 - 01:07 AM

How far back are we going? We have had the late Nic Jones mentioned, but not SFAICS Peter Bellamy or the YT [Heather Wood, last time I saw her, was still singing in NY where she has lived now for many years]. Nor the Watersons, or Norma individually ~~ and has anyone mentioned Eliza Carthy?

~Michael~

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: mrdux
Date: 21 Dec 11 - 12:47 AM

Anne Briggs is also worth a listen.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST,Azoic
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 11:11 PM

You might find a little known English singer named June Tabor worth your time.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Elmore
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 09:45 PM

Big Al: Living in New Hampshire, as we do, I was about to give you an argument, but realized you were absolutely correct. regards, Elmore

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 09:44 PM

to be honest, I can see others there mentioned that many listeners would find difficult to get to grips with.

Robin Williamson for example. I used to love the ISB, but I've taken other people to see his concerts in recent years - and without the memory of all the pleasure his ISB songs brought me, they have found the evening quite challenging.

Look, its just an opinion. I could easily be wrong, but surely you've had that experience of taking a friend to aconcert, and you just sit there wishing the artist would reach out and give the person you've brought some way to climb aboard.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 09:35 PM

They're very good - I've seen them. No denying. But I think someone whose previous tastes has run to guitarist/singers might find it a little difficult to get a handle on their style.

People need to absorb at their own rate. And if you live a long way from the English folkscene, with all its warmth - I can imagine that might be a challenge.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Elmore
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 08:41 PM

Attn: Big Al. Okay, then, How about Dave Webber and Anni Fentiman Live? My wife likes them a lot, and her favorite folk singers are Eric Clapton and Steely Dan.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 07:17 PM

Its a big jump from what this guys been listening to, to someone like Dave Webber.

Its easy for us to appreciate Dave, cos we've been around for ever and we know where he fits into the scheme of things.

Theres such a thing as drawing people gently into the folk revival - I think some of you guys sort of like to confront people. And say, this is where its at. If you don't get it - you're an idiot.

He says he's listened to Carthy and I know Martin has performed and recorded at least one of Dave's songs maybe more. Perhaps that might be a better way to introduce him to an artist. say if he liked those songs - that's where they originate from.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST,David E.
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 06:58 PM

That Nic Jones fellow is pretty good. The new Steve Tilston is excellent. Wizz Jones is always a treat. You're gonna be busy Guest.

David E.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Edthefolkie
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 05:51 PM

I might as well get him in....Sir Richard Thompson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdrG4tZf4uw&feature=related

He wrote that, but he'll try almost anything, he does a pretty terrifying "Season of the Witch" not to mention "Oops I Did It Again"

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST,fres malone
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 05:39 PM

Dick miles, ,of ballydehob,is very good imho

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: The Sandman
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 05:08 PM

E. MacColl,PeggySeeger, PeterBond,lEON Rosselson

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: peregrina
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 04:51 PM

Scots: Archie Fisher, Karine Polwart, David Ferrard
Northeast and Yorkshire: Ed Pickford, Keith Marsden, Graeme Miles, Roger Davies, Ewen Carruthers
Scots transplanted to Yorkshire: Ewan McLennan, Wendy Arrowsmith
Travellers: even if you think you want singer-songwriters, it is worth exploring the great richness of traveller singers singing unaccompanied songs--mainly traditional songs, but not entirely. The cross-over feature for a person with singer-songwriter taste is the expressiveness of each word, phrase: Lizzie Higgins, Sheila Stewart, Tommy McCarthy (site: the tin folk), Stanley Robertson...

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: pdq
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 04:49 PM

Someone who likes Nick Drake might appreciate Emitt Rhodes self-title album. It was done at the same gerneral time that Drake was working and by a young man of about the same age but is more positive.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 04:20 PM

Andrew McKay

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 04:15 PM

Robin Williamson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3jEwwni2lg

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: My guru always said
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 04:10 PM

Graeme Miles, George Papavgeris, Les Sullivan.... Oooh, loads of other!

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Elmore
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 04:01 PM

oops misspelled John Conolly. See above

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 04:00 PM

Bob Pegg.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 03:43 PM

Chris Wood

L in C#

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Elmore
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 03:42 PM

Pete Coe, Vin Garbutt, Leon Rosselson, Dave Goulder, John Connelly, Dave Webber, John Tams, etc., etc.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 03:12 PM

Keith Marsden, Brian McNeil.

Dave H

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 03:10 PM

well the other Brit big hitter in that little group is Ralph McTell.

But overall - my advice would be - don't confine yourself to Brits.

we have some good blokes and women - but so have other countries.

Subject: RE: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 03:06 PM

There are many threads here that discuss excellent British folk singers, Guest. Have you used the search feature to look for them? Such as this?

SRS

Subject: British Folkies and singer songwriters
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Dec 11 - 02:56 PM

Over the past two or three years I've really gotten into John Renbourn and Bert Jansch. I'm aware of Davie Graham, Martin Carthy and Nick Drake. Overall I'm a relative newbie to British folk and British singer songwriters. Besides the prople I've listed, who should I be checking out?