Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Mark Ross
Date: 18 Aug 17 - 06:09 PM

Joe, that would have been around the time he wrote it. Actually, he wrote the words, Paul Kamm & Eleanor MacDonald put it a tune to it.

Mark Ross

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Aug 17 - 01:20 AM

Somehow, our publisher Hal Leonard got 1975 for the publication date of the song, "Singing Through the Hard Times," and that's the date in our Rise Again Songbook. A friend from Nevada City (California) thinks the song is more recent. He remembers Utah saying it was a brand-new song he wrote for the homeless shelter in Nevada City. I found a performance of the song by Utah on a 2003 episode of Prairie Home Companion. Does anyone have access to anything that would give firm information about the publication date?
Thanks.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Aug 17 - 03:12 AM

What's the publication date of "Singing Through the Hard Times"? Did Utah Phillips ever record it? When?

I did find a performance by Utah Phillips on A Prairie Home Companion in 2003.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: deepdoc1
Date: 12 Nov 11 - 02:43 PM

Might it be Arkansas Red?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: kendall
Date: 12 Nov 11 - 12:47 PM

And you are?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Nov 11 - 10:53 AM

I dedicated my CD Last Train Out to the Golden Voice of the Great Southwest, Utah Phillips. RIP.

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As stated below, poster appears to be Arkansas Red.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST,Dave Sweetapple
Date: 09 Nov 10 - 03:44 PM

The Utah Phillips song, Dog Canyon (Canyon Del Pero) is not that far from the truth. I live n Dog Canyon and just a short two mile jaunt from my place is the ruins of Old Frency's cabin. He did in fact shoot a man over water rights.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: MikeT
Date: 03 Nov 10 - 12:32 PM

oops, that last post was from me, I didn't realize I wasn't signed in.

Mike

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Nov 10 - 12:27 PM

I think 'Ship Gonna Sail' is a masterpiece. I first heard Bruce sing it at the Champlain folk fest in 2005. I was able to visit with him when he was in Saratoga after that, and asked him for the words. He said he would send it to me, as well as the introduction. Bruce's introductions were composed as carefully as his songs, and I believe he wanted the intro performed with the song. I have performed this few times, first at his remembrance at Old Songs a few years ago, and found the audience responds to the intro as well as the song. Here is the text of the recitation I put together for the intro, which is a combination of the sister's of the road article and the live recording. I sure miss Bruce, and this is a song for our and all times.

"They were starting a peace center in Nevada City, where Bruce lived. The day after the last presidential election, the Peace organizers came into a general meeting to discuss what went wrong, and they were draggin' their tails, just so depressed. It was so awful. Some people dissolved into tears. There was a lot of loose talk, I'm gonna go to Canada, I'm gonna go to New Zealand. Bruce just couldn't let that happen. He thought back on old Fred Thompson, the editor of The Industrial Worker. The man did hard time at San Quentin federal prison as a political prisoner for the IWW. Fred talked about the first World War, and the espionage act and the mass deportations without any due process, and the 5,000 union brothers and sisters in jail, the beatings, the lynchings, he said worse than anything we're going through right now see, but we still came out of it with the structure of the 8 hour day, mine safety laws, child labor laws, and you roll on up into the Great Depression, grinding oppression, I mean right down on the bottom, but you have the birth of the CIO, and the progressive movement, and what came out of that awful time: Social Security, workmen's compensation, minimum wage, unemployment insurance, things unheard of anywhere, You come up through the War and into McCarthy times, the Red Scare, Korea and the beginning of the cold war when they tried to destroy the labor movement completely, and we came out of that, we did, and we survived. We came out of that with the civil rights movement that worked, and the largest peace movement that the country has ever seen. So knowing that, I know that we're going to get through what we're going through now, and we're going to come out of it better and stronger and you can count on it.

We've got a lot of help, we've got a lot of help to do that you know. When you think back down that road, we got people like Sojourner Truth, and Mother Jones, remember Mother Jones? The miner's mother lived to be 100. Mother Jones in Philadelphia, speaking at a mill, and they brought little kids to her, the workers with parts of their hands missing, cut off by the machines, scalped, hair caught in the machines that pulled their scalps off. She flew into a rage, went down to the Philadelphia Inquirer, and said, "We've got to expose this!" and the editor said we can't do it because the people that own the mill own the paper. Hasn't changed much has it? Did she write a letter to her congressman? Did she start a petition? No, she got 100 of those kids together and marched with their parents and chaperones, marched overland 100 miles to New York City, caught the ferry across to Long Island, and those kids camped on President Theodore Roosevelt's lawn to embarrass him into coming out in favor of child labor laws. Direct action gets the goods. And Eugene V. Debs, who founded the Socialist Party of the United States. I love the man. There was never a man more loved in this country than Eugene V. Debs. There in court, telling the judge as he was on his way to jail for objecting to the First World War as a bosses' war. He looked at the judge and said, "While there is a lower class I am in it. While there is a criminal class I am of it. While there is a soul in prison I am not free." And on up to Maurice Sugar and the sit-down strikes of the 1930's in Detroit and Flint, Michigan, and on and on.

These people, I see them as building a boat. They were building a ship, and none of them believed that they would ever sail on it, but that was no excuse not to build it. When they got too old, and broken, too tired to build any more on that ship, they passed the tools and the skills on to the younger ones, and they kept building the boat, and now those tools are passed on to our times. They are in our hands, and we keep building that boat. When our turn comes, we'll pass those tools along, and someday that ship is gonna sail. Some day that ship is gonna sail to a world of economic justice and peace. You can count on that too."

Then sing the song

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 09:55 PM

Hi, Greg -
Thanks for posting. At the time I posted the lyrics, I was going from what I found on another Website. I had heard the song in concert, but couldn't find a recording. Today I found a recording on a 2006 compilation album called Hail to the Thieves, Volume III: Songs to take our country back!. Using your corrections and what I hear, I've added corrections to my post above. Thanks for the help.

-Joe Offer, Colfax, California-

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 01:29 PM

Actually, doing the "ship gonna sail someday" only once is my way of singing it. Utah did sing "Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday" both times. I also added "Ella Baker said, 'We will not rest.'" It's a song you can tweak for any given occasion.

Dan

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST,Greg Artzner of MAGPIE
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 05:17 PM

Joe Jencks asked about this through Local 1000. Here is the email I sent him.

Hi Joe,
We know that song. Heard Utah sing it at Champlain Valley in '05 and beseeched him for it.

Went to the Mudcat link and there are some errors in the lyric there. I have made corrections below

One important correction that runs throughout is that the "call and response" is a set response, and line 2 is different from line 4 in each verse
The first response is
"Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday."
The second response is
"Ship gonna sail someday"

The Mudcat transcription has "Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday" every time. That's not right.

Then the "Workin' on a ship" part is the chorus, always ending with "Gonna build it anyway."

For our rendition we added
"John Brown said, "Let our motto be action" right at the beginning.

Dan Schatz added, at the end:

"Utah Phillips said, "Singing through the hard times,"
        Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday
"Working for the good times" and "One Big Union"
        Ship gonna sail someday.
–Greg & Terry

http://www.magpiemusic.com

SOMEDAY THAT SHIP GONNA SAIL
(U. Utah Phillips)

Sojourner Truth said, "Ain't I a woman?"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Mother Jones said, "No child labor!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Joe Hill said, "Don't mourn, organize."
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Gene Deb said, "Well, there's a soul in prison!" (union leader Eugene V. Debs?)
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday
       correction: Yes it IS Gene Debs, not "Deb" And it's not "Well" it's "While there's a soul in prison..."
We're working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Gonna build it anyway.

Marie Sugar said, "Sit down, sit down!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday
correction: Maurice Sugar, not Marie. Sugar was a famous Union attorney in the early 20th century

Paul Robeson said, "I won't stop singin!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Martin Luther said, "I have a dream!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday
correction: Make sure you say, "Martin Luther KING". Luther was a different preacher altogether.

Malcolm X said, "Power to the people!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

We're working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Gonna build it anyway.

Cesar Chavez said, "Viva la Huelga!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Dorothy said, "Swords into plowshares!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday
correction: It's "Dorothy Day"

Judy Barry said, "No compromise!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday
correction: It's just the spelling, but it Bari, not Barry

Daniel Berrigan said, "No more atom bombs!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday
Working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Gonna build it anyway.

They're all gone, and we're still building,
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday
With hand and heart, and mind and muscle.
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday
Working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Gonna build it anyway.

Subject: Canyon Del Perro (Dog Canyon) - Utah Phillips
From: Genie
Date: 10 Oct 10 - 07:51 PM

Bob Clayton and Pete Kraemer ("Sidekicks") did a fine rendition of this song (complete with a small lyric memory lapse on one verse) at this year's Getaway. If given their permission, I will make the video available on YouTube.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: kendall
Date: 08 Sep 10 - 06:28 AM

If anyone should ask me what I have done to make this a better world, I will say, helping to produce a double CD of Utah Phillips' songs.
It is available from Righteous Babe records, and it is one I will not lend.
Buy it; you will be glad you did.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 07 Sep 10 - 11:18 PM

Bruce's son Duncan is working on a new edition of the songbook with some additional material - it should be out early next year if all goes well.

Dan

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 07 Sep 10 - 10:53 PM

Here's what Utah was quoting from in SOMEDAY THAT SHIP GONNA SAIL, verse 4:

From Walls and Bars by Eugene Victor Debs (Chicago: Socialist Party, 1927), page 11:

MY PRISON CREED.

While there is a lower class I am in it;
While there is a criminal element I am of it;
While there's a soul in prison I am not free.

Subject: Lyr Add: SINGING THROUGH THE HARD TIMES (Phillips)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Sep 10 - 03:13 AM

I couldn't find the CD booklet since I put all my recordings on my hard drive, so I had to do a by-ear transcription. Any corrections?
-Joe-

SINGING THROUGH THE HARD TIMES
(U. Utah Phillips)

Sometimes our living gets so dark and lonesome,
It seems like there's nothing we can do.
So we reach out to each other, and raise a song together,
And let our voices carry us through.

CHORUS:
We are singing through the hard times,
Singing through the hard times;
Working for the good times to come.
We are singing through the hard times,
Singing through the hard times;
Working for the good times to come.

And when the war clouds gather, it's so easy to get angry,
And just as hard not to be afraid;
But you know in your own heart, no matter what happens,
You just can't turn your back and walk away.
CHORUS

So hand in hand together, we help each other carry
The light of peace within us every day;
If we can learn to live it, to walk and talk and give it,
That world of peace won't be so far away.
CHORUS (twice)

From the Utah Phillips tribute CD, Singing Through the Hard Times, produced by Mudcatters Dan Schatz and Kendall and Jacqui Morse.

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And here's a YouTube Video of the song, with a lot of familiar faces...

Subject: ADD: Someday That Ship Gonna Sail (Utah Phillips)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Sep 10 - 01:48 AM

Somebody asked me for lyrics of this song, so I thought I'd post it here. I found it in a very interesting article, so I thought I'd post the entire article:

Someday That Ship's Gonna Sail (article by Orion Gray)



By popular demand, we are printing the lyrics to a song
that Utah Phillips sang in February at Winterfolk 17, "Ship's
Gonna Sail Someday." By way of introducing it, he told a
story about his experience helping to start a Peace Center in
his home town, Nevada City. The day after the last presidential election,
the peace organizers came into a general
meeting to discuss what went wrong, and they were "draggin'
their tails . . .just so depressed . . . it was so awful, some
people dissolved into tears. And I just couldn't let that
happen," he said.
He got fired up and reminded the group that early
organizers like Mother Jones and Joe Hill who had fought for
women's rights in the 40s, for the 8 hour-day, and for safe
working conditions, had all had to fight year after year: "It
took a long time. We're in it for a long haul, it's not as simple
as a change of administration, but a systemic change, the way
that we do things, the way that we use our lives, the way that
we use our labor.
"And there's a lot of loose talk: 'I'm gonna go to Canada!
I'm gonna go to New Zealand!' And I think about those
women in the Lawrence textile strike, in 1912, immigrant
women . . . dying at the average age of 26 because of dust in
the weave rooms. Did they walk away from it, did they go
back to Canada, to their homelands? No sir, they fought, and
they organized, and they won . . . We can win! We can win!
"And then I got them all singing that song . . . and I
wanna sing it, especially now. About Sojourner Truth, and Joe
Hill, and Eugene Deb . . . They were all building a ship: a nail
here, a plank here. None of them ever believed they were
gonna sail on that ship, but it was no excuse to not build it.
When they got too old to do that anymore, they passed the
tools and the skills on to the younger ones, and they kept on
building. And those tools and skills got passed on to us. And
someday that ship is gonna sail. It will!"

SOMEDAY THAT SHIP GONNA SAIL
(U. Utah Phillips)

Sojourner Truth said, "Ain't I a woman?"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Mother Jones said, "No child labor!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Joe Hill said, "Don't mourn, organize."
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Gene Deb (Debs) said, "Well, While there's a soul in prison!" (union leader Eugene V. Debs?)
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

We're working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday
Working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Gonna build it anyway.

Marie (Maurice) Sugar said, "Sit down, sit down!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Paul Robeson said, "I won't stop singin!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Martin Luther King said, "I have a dream!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Malcolm X said, "Power to the people!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

We're working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday
Working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Gonna build it anyway.

Cesar Chavez said, "Viva la Huelga!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Dorothy Day said, "Swords into plowshares!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Judy Barry (Judi Bari) said, "No compromise!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Daniel Berrigan [or Phil] said, "No more atom bombs!"
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday
Working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Gonna build it anyway.

They're all gone, and we're still building,
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday
With hand and heart, and mind and muscle.
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday

Working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Ship gonna sail, gonna sail someday
Working on a ship, may never sail on it,
Gonna build it anyway.

Article by Orion Gray, www.sistersoftheroad.org/images/2005_Spring.pdf

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Note from Joe Offer: this transcription contains some mistakes. Some were from the transcriber, and some were most probably mistakes made by Utah Phillips. I've corrected the more glaring mistakes above. For clarification, see the discussion below.
2 November 2010

Subject: Lyr Add: NEW COLORADO STATE SONG (Utah Phillips)
From: Mark Ross
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:44 PM

Here they are, with my comments.


Back when I first visited Utah at his then home in Spokane, there was a letter framed, and prominently displayed, from U.S. Rep. Pat Schroeder thanking him for having written this song.

Mark Ross


THE NEW COLORADO STATE SONG
Bruce "U.Utah" Phillips



I understand that Boeing lost a contract,
They're laying off a thousand engineers,
And they all want to move to Colorado,
And open up a charge account at Sears.

Chorus;
Well you can visit now and then,
Bring your money, bring your friends,
Bring your campers and your Winnebagoes too.
Bring your festivals and dope, and we all sincerely hope,
That you don't forget to leave when you get through.

Oh, you see 'em standing out along the highway,
With their big red packs and long shaggy hair,
And they all want a lift to Colorado,
But I don't care I'll leave them standing there.

Chorus;

We've had a lot of trouble with the Jetset,
Those lazy, no good bastards love to ski,
And they all want to fly to Colorado,
And tear up all our mountain greenery.

Chorus;

So as I travel all around this country,
I've seen many different kinds of bums,
And they all want to move to Colorado,
And make it just like all your Eastern slums.

Chorus;

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Mark Ross
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:42 PM

Just posted them on the other thread you started, hang on a sec and I will cut & paste them here.

Mark Ross

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST,pace
Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:20 PM

does anyone know the lyrics to
"the new Colorado state song"

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Mark Ross
Date: 28 May 07 - 09:44 AM

If you check out Utah's website, his songbook STARLIGHT ON THE RAILS is online. NEVADA JANE is there.

Mark Ross

www.utahphillips.org

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST,Brian Feldus
Date: 27 May 07 - 11:36 PM

I heard a song, about 30 years ago, and I believe it was Nevada Jane. Off and on, since that Timw, I've been looking for they lyrics. Does anyone know this song and where I could get the lyrics?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: fumblefingers
Date: 15 Mar 07 - 07:18 PM

I have "Moose Turd Pie" in mp3 format if anyone wants it. 8.3megs.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 15 Mar 07 - 06:16 PM

Art,
You weren't thinking of "The Ballad Of Tom Joad" by Woody were you? It used the tune of John Hardy and took up both sides of the record (78)to tell the story of Steinbeck's "The Grapes Of Wrath".

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 28 Dec 06 - 12:26 AM

I never heard a song by Utah called "The Ballad Of Joe Hill" ---- but Phil Ochs did one called that I think -- to the tune of "John Hardy"----a long ballad telling the whole story of Joe Hill.

Could that've been Phil Ochs you heard?

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: OtherDave
Date: 27 Dec 06 - 09:25 PM

I know for sure that someone sang The Balled of Joe Hill at Walter Reuther's funeral in 1970, because I watched the service on television. I can't say for certain, but my guess is that the singer was Utah Phillips.

...Regarding the Wolverine, Amtrak's train 350/351 bore that name back in 1979, and a quick check of the Amtrak website shows me they're still running a Wolverine. (That was the morning departure from Detroit to Chicago, and vice-versa; the afternoon counterpart was The Twilight Limited.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Mark Ross
Date: 27 Dec 06 - 07:12 PM

He still plays that big blond Guild. The 1st song is OLD BUDDY GOODNIGHT, and the 2nd is called GOIN' AWAY, they're both in the songbook STARLIGHT ON THE RAILS both on line at Utah's website and in his new audio songbook of the same name, a 4 CD set.

Mark Ross

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 27 Dec 06 - 12:14 PM

I first heard Utah about 25 years ago at the Owen Sound Folk Festival. He appeared there a few years in a row. He and Gamble Rogers put on the best story telling workshop I'll ever see.
There are two tunes that stick in my head. I can't remember the titles, but they start out:
I was there when they opened the boxcar,
And found him stone dead on the floor...
and:
Is that the moon I see over there in the west,
Or just a headlight's glow, C&O Express?

He also did a bunch of trad songs like Cannonball Rag, Big rock Candy Mountain, Hallelujeah I'm a Bum...
A great performer. He was playing a big blonde Guild at the time.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: open mike
Date: 27 Dec 06 - 11:57 AM

ok, great! let's sing it in Toledo next year@!!
that's what i thought (red ball)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Mark Ross
Date: 27 Dec 06 - 10:05 AM

GIVE ME A TRAIN WITH AN ALL NIGHT BAR is also known as TALKING WOLVERINE, which was a train that ran between Chicago and Detroit. Utah wrote it just after Amtrak took over the passenger system. A red ball was a RR term for a train that had a high priority on the rails, i.e., it would take precedence over any other train on the road, the other trains would hve to pull into to a siding to let the red ball pass them.

Mark Ross

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 10:00 PM

Hey all--

There are lyrics for "Starlight on the Rails and Other Songs" including several the original requester was asking for at this site.

Includes:
The Telling Takes Me Home
Ride Away
Hey Boys, Let It Ring
Paddy Welcome Back
Goodnight-Loving Trail
Johnny Thurmond
Scofield Mine Disaster
Miner's Lullaby
Little Dugout Soddy On the Plain
Arvada
Nothing Gets Old Anymore
Top Faller's Song
All About Preachers
Jesse James' Farewell Blues
The Pride of Northern Mexico
She'll Never Be Mine
Jungle Sermon
Dump the Bosses Off Your Back
Wobbly De-Horn Crew
Nevada Jane
The Two Burns
Pie In the Sky
Power In the Union
Daddy, What's a Train?
Starlight On the Rails
Phoebe Snow
Queen of the Rails
Wabash Cannonball
No Round Trip Ticket
Green Rolling Hills
Union Bingo
Relocation Blues
Frisco Road
If I Had a List
Larimer Street
Tom Horn
The Big Diamond Mine
John D. Lee
Jesse's Corrido
If I Could Be the Rain
I Think of You
Rocksalt and Nails
Goin' Away
Hymn Song

Good stuff! :>)
Lin

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 08:43 PM

Recently I sent some cassettes to Utah of shows he did in February of 1972 or 73. Saul Broudy (who shows up here at Mudcat occasionally) was playing harmonica on the road with Utah then. Fred Holstein and I made the tapes back then directly through the house P.A. system at the old landmark Chicago folk club called the Earl Of Old Town. One entire set was songs Bruce rarely sang --- mostly because Fred wanted to learn some new songs, and also because Utah liked what he figured Fred might do with them. It was that night that Utah sang Carl Oglesby's "The Cherokee Queen." --- I learned it from those tapes back then, but the song, as done by me, finally made it to one of my CDs in 1998.

Those old cassette tapes deteriorated over the ensuing 35 years, so I dubbed off what I could save. ---------------- Twas surely great to hear them again ...

What a time that was...

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: kendall
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 07:10 PM

Poetic license, Dave. It happens all the time. For instance, in the song,"Reuben James" the writer said 'twas the last day of October" No, it was the 30th of October, and no where near 500 men went down. Destroyers never had that many crew members.
We don't look to Hollywood for the facts, we shouldn't look to songs for them either.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 06:05 PM

My understanding is that John D. Lee was a scapegoat. He had been Brigham Young's commissioner of Indian affairs, or some such. He was around in the early stages of the confrontation with the wagon train, and managed to get the hotheads quieted down, with the understanding that the people of the wagon train were to be let go.

Lee left, and after that the massacre by "Indians" took place.

Some time later, the US put tremendous political and legal pressure on the Deseret administration in Salt Lake City, and the US District Judge gave some sort of ultimatum to Brigham Young, to resolve the crime. Since it was almost impossible to pin the whole thing on any of the real culprits of the massacre, and they needed something to show the Federals, they threw John D. Lee to the wolves.

ONE of the inaccuracies of the song, "The wagons, they still smouldered"--it was about six months after the massacre that Lee's execution took place, and it may not even have been at Mountain Meadows.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: kendall
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 04:26 PM

I believe that the Mountain Meadows massacre was out of pure revenge.Mormons were attacked before, so they just got even. What ever happened to forgiveness and turning the other cheek?
I have no use for organized religion.

Subject: ADD: I'll Ride the Trains Again (Phillips)-partial
From: open mike
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 03:13 PM

I am in the process of transcribing another Utah Phillips song
I learned form Rosalie Sorrels on a recent Cowboy Train trip.
"I'll Ride the Trains Again"


Here's what I have so far..
there may be other verses..
can any one fill these in?


I'll Ride the Trains Again
        By Utah Phillips

I'LL RIDE THE TRAINS AGAIN
(Utah Phillips

Give me a train with an all night bar
Wherever I go it can't be too far
Rock me to sleep in a Pullman Car
And I'll Ride the Trains Again

You got that black smoke, Rolling from the stack
Pull the switch, clear the track
I'm gonna throw my guitar right up on the rack
I'll ride the trains again

Now when a passenger train was a red ball on the line
You never wound up side tracked all the time
Now all you do is hurry up and wait
And you're all stacked up for some damn freight
I think they're trying to make me late
That's a hell of a way to run a railroad

Give me a train with an all night bar
Wherever I go it can't be too far
Rock me to sleep in a Pullman car
I'll ride the trains again

You've got the black smoke rolllin' from the stack
Pull the switch , clear the track
I'm gonna throw my guitar right up on the rack
I'll ride the trains again



also--can anyone desribe the term "red ball"
and does it have a connection to the
Red Ball Jets shoe brand?

---

See Wolverine 14 Talking Blues (click)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: open mike
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 12:03 PM

As I recall there was also a factor involved in the massacre
that the attackers who were NOT native americans, dressed up
to LOOK like Indians so that the original blame was place on
the tribal people. Any one else hear about that part?

http://www.mtn-meadows-assoc.com/

The wagon train was going from arkansas to california.

http://members.aol.com/tnf49/mm.html

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 11:15 AM

Mark Ross:

I'm aware that some versions of Hiram Herbert render it as Hiram Hubbard.   I know and sing a version I learned from Dwight Diller. (On CD, that is, not in person, although I've had banjo classes with him.)

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Amos
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 10:30 AM

The Mountain Meadows massacre, interestingly enough, was a cooperative effort between Mormons and Indians who combined forces to pull a ruse on, and then slaughter, the settlers in question. However, it was not ordered by Brigham Young, whose orders were NOT to molest the setllers; those orders arrived several days after the massacre, unfortunately.

A

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Mark Ross
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 10:23 AM

Uncle Dave, Actually, the song Utah got the tune for JOHN D. LEE
from is HIRAM HUBBARD, which he learned from the singing of Jean Ritchie.

Mark Ross

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: kendall
Date: 26 Dec 06 - 08:26 AM

The Mountain Meadows massacre. 1857 A group of pioneers headed for California stopped on land claimed by the Mormons. Some of them were recognized by the locals as men who had attacked the Mormons on their way west, and they slaughtered them, men, women and children.They were talked into giving up their arms for safe passage, then, unarmed, they were all murdered.
I've had Mormons come to my house preaching their religion who never heard of the Mountain Meadows incident. I wonder why.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 25 Dec 06 - 09:38 PM

I goofed in posting the words to John D. Lee, above. I didn't put in the title, and I didn't make some comments I'd intended to.

Phillips has slightly adapted the tune of a song from Civil War times, called "Hiram Herbert", about a man mistakenly accused of murder by the Confederates, and hanged.

"John D. Lee" is based on a famous historical incident of the Old West, but not too closely. Phillips admits it's not quite historically accurate, but it's still a powerful song.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: Lyr Add: JOHN D LEE (Utah Phillips)
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 25 Dec 06 - 09:19 PM

JOHN D LEE
(Utah Phillips)

Here's news come to the city about a wagon train;
Here's news come to the city about a wagon train;
How men and all their families by John D. Lee was slain.

Brigham Young sent out a runner, bid Squire Wells to come;
Brigham Young sent out a runner, bid Squire Wells to come;
Go down into that country and see my justice done.

He gathered up a posse, a dozen men or more,
He gathered up a posse, a dozen men or more,
They tracked across the desert to the Colorado shore.

No sooner they crossed over than John D. Lee was found,
No sooner they crossed over than John D. Lee was found,
Down in the Indian village the squaws was camped around.

The horses from Missouri was found in his corral;
The horses from Missouri was found in his corral;
The Squire read him guilty the facts we find here tell.

A wagon and a coffin, they make a heavy load,
A wagon and a coffin, they make a heavy load,
To haul up to the meadow along the black ridge road.

Way up in Mountain Meadows they made him dig his grave,
Way up in Mountain Meadows they made him dig his grave,
Though loudly he protested, his life he thought to save.

The wagons they still smoldered, their ashes blew around,
The wagons they still smoldered, their ashes blew around,
In sight of this mute evidence, they shot their victim down.

Some say he was not guilty, so I have heard it said,
Some say he was not guilty, so I have heard it said,
The deed fell to his captors who should have died instead.

His grave is undiscovered, the grass it grows so tall,
His grave is undiscovered, the grass it grows so tall,
Such was the Saints' own vengeance on John D. Lee did fall.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: kendall
Date: 25 Dec 06 - 07:33 PM

Starlight on the rails is also my favorite Utah production, and not just because I'm on one of them. There are other folk singers as well, such as:
Kate Wolf
Rosalie Sorrels
Mark Ross
Kate Breslin and J. Stecher

This is a real treasure, one you will never loan!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST,Arne Langsetmo
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:04 PM

I'm so tired of looking for what would seem obscure folk artists and never finding them.

I'd venture that Bruce "Utah" Phillips is far from being some "obscure folk artist[]" ... at leaat to those of us that read the labels. ;-) By my nonprofessional and ad hoc count, he may well be one of the most recorded songwriters ever in folk circles (with IIRC some 20 songs of his at least recorded by others). I can only think of a few, such as perhaps Ewan McColl, Pete Seeger, or Malvina Reynolds, that have exceeded his output (at least as measured by the number of people that think his songs are worth enshrining in vinyl/CD). Feel free to correct me on the numbers, anyone that knows more....

Then there's the pleasure of seeing him live, with his 2 minute songs wrapped around 20 minute stories that will leave you busting a gut or bawling your eyes out.

Did I say that he's also one of my favourites? (Unfortunately, my SO thinks his voice sux and refuses to listen to him....)

Cheers,

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: jacqui.c
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 02:38 PM

Starlight on the Rails is my favourite album at the moment. Not only are the songs good but Utah provides so much information on his America that it also becomes a modern history lesson.

Highly recommended.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 11:53 AM

His Starlight on the Rails: A Songbook CD box set is available for about $35 at Amazon and "other fine stores"...
I especially like the part where he says some guy named Kendall Morse, a sea captain from Maine, is the greatest folksinger who ever lived - or something like that. But anyhow, the "songbook" is four CD's full of songs, with Utah's explanations of the stories behind the songs. He said he put the songbook on a recording because the singers he knows don't read music.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST,Tommy Boy
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 11:50 PM

Soooooo good to hear that there's somewhere I can sample Utah's music. I'm so tired of looking for what would seem obscure folk artists and never finding them. It seems like Amazon has become my new music source. Thanks so much for your help. It's strange to say this, but Utah's musci has touched me in a way I never thought possible. Matching that up with Ani DiFranco's eclectic style was pure genius in "The Past Didn't Go Anywhere." I'm so glad to find an artist, not a singer. If there's anything that you can do to point me in the right direction as far as more of his work, let me know. mailto:[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 02:22 PM

He has several songs on the Amazon free music download site..go to Amazon.com and look for free music downloads and somewhere in folk, can't remember which category, he is there. I think my favorite (not in downloads) is Nevada Jane. mg

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST,Tommy Boy
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 02:20 PM

I've just found Utah, and I'm freaked out and happier than I've been in a very long time. I was given "The Past Didn't Go Anywhere" by a firend, and told simply, "Just listen to it." Nothing more, nothing less. I;m hoping to find out if there's any way to get the lyrics for this album. Does anyone know where to go?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 19 May 03 - 12:55 PM

Randolph + Legman "Blow The Candle Out" was still available from Amazon 3-4 months ago, new. It has a comprehensive index to both volumes that is really helpful. Also the full bibliography.
The price was $60 US; expensive, but the used sources all turned up dry when my request went in.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Stewie
Date: 19 May 03 - 02:01 AM

Q,

The search function seems to work in mysterious ways on occasion.

The track listing for 'El Capitan' is:

The Telling Takes Me Home
The Goodnight-Loving Trail
Old Dolores
John D. Lee
Dog Canyon
The Star of Bannock
Sitting by the Old Corral
Johnny Thurman
Scofield Mine Disaster
Rock Me to Sleep
I've Got A Home Out in Utah
Jesse's Corrido
Enola Gay
Larimer Street
Pig Hollow
Yuba City
She'll Never Be Mine
The Sweet Briar


'Johnny Thurman', 'Scofield Mine Disaster' and 'John D. Lee' are in the Phillips online songbook. Thus, as far as I can ascertain, the ones from this album still missing from the DT, forum and online songbook are:

The Star of Bannock
Sitting by the Old Corral
I've Got A Home Out in Utah
The Sweet Briar

I do not have any of those. My copy of 'El Capitan' disappeared years ago, and I have only the tracks that are on 'The Telling Takes Me Home' compilation.

BTW, I just received 'Roll Me In Your Arms', the first volume of Randolph's 'unprintable' Ozark F&F - an impressive tome and a work of considerable scholarship on Legman's part!

Cheers, Stewie.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 18 May 03 - 11:10 PM

Stewie, entering dog canyon brought up the info that it was not in the DT or the Forum.

Entering phillips in search-forum brought up a number of threads about him or containing his songs (a number of them not listed in the Related Links), but not the recent thread 58068 where you posted the El Capitan songs.
I remember that some time ago you warned of this problem with songs that you had posted and I should have checked further. Sorry for the duplication.

It does appear in the Related Links of this thread as you point out (but not in all Phillips threads)- I should have checked them but I assumed (wrongly) that phillips in Forum Search would have brought up all threads on Phillips.

Some single song entries came up. Phillips song "Tolono" is posted in thread 7526 (Wabash Cannonball) but it is in the Forum list brought up with -phillips-.

Did you post or check posting of all of the El Capitan songs? Too bad that these were deleted from his web site. It does make the point that no website can be depended on to last.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Stewie
Date: 18 May 03 - 10:04 PM

Q,

I posted 'Dog Canyon' and several others from 'El Capitan' some time ago. The thread is the third in the 'Related threads' linked at the top of this thread:

Click Here

Regards, Stewie.

Subject: Lyr Add: DOG CANYON (Utah Phillips)
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 18 May 03 - 08:35 PM

The El Capitan songbook, which used to be part of the utahphillips.org website, has disappeared. I wish I had copied it.
One of the songs which I liked very much was "Dog Canyon," which I did copy because it concerned my home State. Phillips embroidered the story "a bit" (considerably), so it is not "history."

DOG CANYON
(Utah Phillips)

Ten thousand shorthorns are moving in fast,
They drink lots of water, they eat lots of grass;
Your penny stockbrokers have made quite a change,
Now our old outfit's drove to the edge of the range.

In Canyon del Perro there's grapes on the vine,
The water runs sweet as an old Spanish wine,
The high Tularosas they make a fine home
For a man who don't mind living up there alone.

Young Perry Altman was burned out last night,
They shot George McDonald 'cause he wanted to fight,
The days of the longhorn are over I guess
When your syndicate gunmen have run out the rest.

Way up in Dog Canyon old Frenchie holds out,
Half-blind and crippled but he never knows drouth;
He has good water. Tell me what would you do
If you had to protect it from Billy McNew?

He dreams of a village where the sun always shines,
And he dreams of his family when it comes Christmas time,
Now he dreams in his doorway with a gun in his hand,
And Oliver Lee says "You crazy old man."

Well Frenchie he fires but the shot it goes wide,
He falls to the floor with a hole in his side,
And his water runs down to the ranches below
When the high Tularosas are covered with snow.


Utah Phillips, from the El Capitan songbook.
The Tularosa Mts. of southwestern New Mexico are partly in the Gila National Forest, partly in ranching country, the highest point about 9800 feet.
@West, @cattle, @ranching.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Art Thieme
Date: 12 Dec 02 - 11:42 AM

...and then there was

I believe if I saw my wife again
I'd still be here with you...

Art

Subject: ADD Version: Hymn Song (Utah Phillips)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 12:50 PM

HYMN SONG
(Bruce "Utah" Phillips)

cho:
I believe if I lived my life again
I'd still be here with you
I believe if I lived my life again
I'd still be here with you

You know I think if Lady Luck was blind
That old sun would never shine
You know I think if Death really held a knife
We'd all be beggars of life

Sometimes I wish that I could close my eyes
To some things I don't want to see
But I believe if you lived your life again
You'd still be here with me

I'll never see the ending of my mind
Everything will have a time
Why should I ask for things that I don't need
Or pretty lies to hide my greed

Copyright 1981, On Strike Music

This is in the Digital Tradition as I BELIEVE IF I LIVED MY LIFE AGAIN. The lyrics I found in Rise Up Singing are slightly different, most notably in the line about Death holding a knife.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Stewie
Date: 03 Nov 00 - 06:50 PM

Art, there's a second CD with Difranco. It's called 'Fellow Workers' Righteous Babe RBR016-D. There's also a Philo CD consisting of selections from 'El Capitan' and 'All Used Up' - 'The Telling Takes Me Home' Philo CD PH 1210. It contains an excellent booklet with notes and lyrics.

--Stewie.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 03 Nov 00 - 06:08 PM

Some of us were there, Art ...

He never did any of the Eamon Hennessey and Catholic workers stuff in bars, that I am aware of, and I heard him every time he came to chicago after I moved there in 1970. He once commented that that crowd wouldn't dig it, but I am not so sure. I think you can't say too often how you come home from war so scarred you crawl into a bottle and stay there until something or someone drags you out.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Stewie
Date: 03 Nov 00 - 02:28 AM

The songbook is available on line:

Songbook

--Stewie.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Art Thieme
Date: 02 Nov 00 - 09:57 PM

Bruce is working on a new book I do believe. All of his albums are on CD now. A few were only available on CD.

Utah Phillips--The Moscow Hold and other stories--not music but fine tales (Red Hopuse Records CD RHR-118)

Making Speech Free---a CD--pretty heavy political songs and polemics---distributed by The Pittsburgh General Membership Branch of the I.W.W.--- P.O.Box 42777---Philadelphia, PA 19101

Utah Phillips--ONE BIG UNION--a CD----I.W.W. union songs (Philo PH-1076)

The Long Memory--Utah Phillips and Rosalie Sorrels--a CD from Red House Records--P.O. Box 4044--St. Paul, MN 55104

The Past Didn't Go Anywhere--Utah Phillips with Ani Difranco---Utah doing recitations and tales from his concerts and writings over the years with Ani Difranco doing the instrumental background to this CD which is pretty much a WORD JAZZ type of production. It's an attempt to bridge the gap between Ani's audience and Utah's---between then and now and to show that what went down then isn't so alien after all. Ani produced this CD because she wanted her audience to find Bruce Phillips and his valuable view of the U.S.A. and its past -- I.E. the title The Past Didn't go anywhere -- it's still here with us RIGHT NOW.

Loafer's Glory---U. Utah Phillips and Mark Ross--Red House Records CD-103 -- songs of the hobo road... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce's first LPs are also available on CD---probably from Philo who issued the LPs back in the early 1970s. These have great versions of so many fine Phillips songs that I'm probably too tired to type 'em out.

Utah Phillips--GOOD THOUGH is probably my favorite of all his recordings. It contains his famous story "Moose Turd Pie". (The LP was Philo-1004 ) Also: Queen Of The Rails, Going Away, Frisco Road, Tolono, Wabash Cannonball, Old Buddy Goodnight, Daddy What's A Train and two thoroughly amazing songs--Starlight On The Rails and Phoebe Snow. These are all songs of the "shiny irons".

Utah Phillips--El Capitan---was also a Philo LP with songs like The Telling Takes Me Home, The Goodnight-Loving Trail, Old Dolores, Rock Me To Sleep, The Star Of Bannock, Larimer Street, Enola Gay and Yuba City---ALL are awesome songs.

There was another LP that, for fear of incurring his wrath. I hesitate to mention. It was simply titled U. Utah Phillips----It was on Prestige Records and came out in the '60s. The unique paean to the actual first man to orbit the earth, the Soviet Union's Yuri Gagarin, was on this album that Utah has been trying to live down ever since. The song was called, simply Yuri Gagarin. In recent times, whenever Bruce mentions it he calls it "Gargle Your Urine".

All of these are wonderful records for all kinds of diffent reasons. Still, I do love some live tapes I've got that we made of Bruce at the old Chicago folk bar THE EARL OF OLD TOWN back in those halcyon days of the folk scare---circa early 70s. I wish you folks could've been there...

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: bigchuck
Date: 02 Nov 00 - 09:33 PM

Utah was offering reprints of the songbook a couple of years ago when he was at Old Songs. I don't know if there are any left. If you do a net search, you will find a site called Utah Phillips: a short jog through a long memory. If I get time, I'll post Faded Roses in a day or two.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: kendall
Date: 02 Nov 00 - 09:12 PM

I also recommend Stetcher and Breslins tape or cd of Utahs Heart Songs. It is one of my favorites.

Or, it was until I me him.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: GUEST,Roses
Date: 02 Nov 00 - 07:45 PM

Any idea where I can get a copy of that songbook? I would sure love to see it. Thanks. I might not find my way back here so if you know how i can get a copy, please email me [e-mail] thanks

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Davey
Date: 06 Oct 99 - 12:02 AM

I really appreciate all the responses, and thanks for digging out the book, Barbara.
Stecher & Brislin's liner notes talk about some previously unreleased songs, which must be the ones that I can't find in the DT or in Rise Up Singing. Those are the ones that I'm mainly interested in, so I think I'll have to try to pick up all the lyrics from the CD.....

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Gene
Date: 05 Oct 99 - 07:16 PM

*UTAH PHILLIPS SONGS IN DIGITAL TRADITION - CLICK *

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Barbara
Date: 05 Oct 99 - 05:33 PM

And, Kath, the songbook is copyright 1973, 26 years ago, amazing how time flies when you're having fun, right?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Barbara
Date: 05 Oct 99 - 05:27 PM

I've got the aforementioned songbook, Davey.
Orphan Train -- check the forum for this.
In the book are:
Scofield Mine Disaster
Miner's Lullaby
Rock Salt and Nails
Green Rolling Hills of West Virginia
John D. Lee
I Remember Loving You

You'll have to wait a while if you want me to type these in, tho, I'm pretty busy for the next few days. You could try bribing me. (grin) Surely there's a website out there someplace?
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Mudjack
Date: 05 Oct 99 - 05:20 PM

What happenned? I had it and it's gone and Joe showed it on my thread. Once more for drill. Thanks Joe.
Utah Phillips
Mudjack

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Mudjack
Date: 05 Oct 99 - 03:21 PM

There is a Hobo site that features many "BUP" and I hope this Clickie Thang works. If it works, credit goes to Easy Rider. If it don't, it's back to the drawing board.
AAHhhh. Utah Phillips, one fo my most favorite human beings. http://www.hobo.org/radio.html
Mudjack

<a href=http://www.hobo.org/radio.html>Click here</a>
(Here's how it should look - Joe Offer)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Oct 99 - 03:07 PM

"Utah" Phillips has been sticking pretty close to his home here in Northern California, so I get a chance to see him once or twice a year. He does have a very few dates planned for other areas, including a performance at Wolf Trap (Virginia) on January 15, 2000 - Click here for a schedule. He used to have a Web page, but I can't find it just now - this (click) may be it, but it's not working just now. I'm still looking for an Internet site that has an archive of his weekly "Loafer's Glory" radio show.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Davey
Date: 05 Oct 99 - 02:44 PM

Thanks for the information, Roger. I have RUS so I'll be sure to check out his other songs there. I had the pleasure of seeing Utah at a folk club in Toronto a few years ago, and I knew he wasn't touring very much any more. He is a wonderful entertainer and storyteller. If you haven't heard Heart Songs by Stecher & Brislin, I HIGHLY recommend it.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 05 Oct 99 - 02:10 PM

Davey,

You missed Rock Salt and Nails. It is in the DT, I just checked. I remember a thread on it some time ago, may have been me asking for the lyrics.

The Green Rollin' Hills of West Virginia is in Rise Up Singing I believe (I'm at work and I'm relying on memory).

I am happy that there is another recruit in the Utah Phillips fan club. I am sorry to tell you that you may not get a chance to see Bruce perform. He is one of a kind. However,he has serious heart troubles and he limits his personal appearances.

He has shown up on two CD's with Ani Di Franco, one quite recent. I have never heard them, so I can't recommend them.

Much of Utah's recorded work is still available and he does a fine job on his songs (not all song writers do, you know).

Roger in Baltimore

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: KathWestra
Date: 05 Oct 99 - 12:48 PM

Many of these songs are collected in a small Utah Phillips songbook, lyrics & music, self-published by U.Utah probably 20 years ago. I'm at work and don't have the bibliographic info. here, but will get it and add it to this thread tonight (if somebody else doesn't jump in with the facts before then.) Kath

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Davey
Date: 05 Oct 99 - 12:20 PM

Thanks Barbara, I did check the Data Base, and the only song that's on the CD is 'I Remember Loving You'..
Here is the list of songs from the CD.. If anyone has words to them I'd be appreciative..

Orphan Train
Walking Through Your Town in the Snow
Hood River Roll On
Scofield Mine Disaster
Miner's Lullaby
Rock Salt and Nails
Green Rolling Hills of West Virginia
A Ragged Old Man
The Jury Set Him Free
Faded Rose
John D. Lee
Golden Mansion
I Remember Loving You

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Barbara
Date: 05 Oct 99 - 11:49 AM

Uhm, Davey, I don't know which Bruce Phillips (U. Utah Phillips, Golden Voice of the Great Southwest) songs are on the recording, but you DID look in the database, right at the 20 or so songs of his we have there? Put 'Phillips" in the search box, and see what that gives you, and then post the names of any others you want, OK?
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: Lyr Req: Songs by Bruce 'Utah' Phillips
From: Davey
Date: 05 Oct 99 - 11:35 AM

The newest recording by Jody Stecher and Kate Brislin, "Heart Songs" contains all songs by 'Utah' Phillips. I'm strongly drawn to several of them. Does anyone know where I can get lyrics for them? Much appreciated.