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Songwronger 28 Dec 11 - 07:42 PM
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Sandra in Sydney 28 Dec 11 - 09:02 PM
DougR 28 Dec 11 - 09:06 PM
artbrooks 28 Dec 11 - 09:22 PM
Bill D 28 Dec 11 - 09:32 PM
GUEST,999 28 Dec 11 - 09:37 PM
Rapparee 28 Dec 11 - 10:20 PM
Crowhugger 28 Dec 11 - 10:34 PM
Songwronger 28 Dec 11 - 10:43 PM
GUEST,999 28 Dec 11 - 10:44 PM
Songwronger 28 Dec 11 - 10:51 PM
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Crowhugger 29 Dec 11 - 10:34 AM
Bill D 29 Dec 11 - 10:42 AM
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Subject: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Songwronger
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 07:42 PM

Searched "news sources" and didn't see anything.

I'd be curious to know where people go on the internet for their news. Especially their first stop. My first stop of the day is What Really Happened. I don't agree with all that the owner of the site says, but he posts a wide variety of stories that you won't likely see anywhere else. If war breaks out, this site will call it war, instead of "enforcing democracy" or a "relief effort."


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 07:52 PM

Washington Post, Richmond Times Dispatch, Charlotte Observer, Morning Joe, Rachael Maddow plus Wikipedia and Google for things I get curious about...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: bobad
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 08:15 PM

Al Jazeera, BBC, The Raw Story and CBC.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 08:46 PM

Two Canadian news sources that I find informative:

Canadian political news

Bourque News


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 08:49 PM

An interesting side news article, though a big drift:
Slime


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 09:02 PM

I don't have a TV so I get my news from Sydney's broadside daily paper (our other daily paper is named the Daily Telecrap & I only ever see that if I find one in the train & don't have anything to read!) & listen to our national broadcaster & read it's website.

The Australian Broadcasting Commission is like the BBC, & has 3 stations I listen to - Local Radio, Radio National & News Radio. RAdio National has many documentary programs fro past & present news. News Radio has constant news updates & has local news programs in the day & evening, & takes BBC, NPR, Deutsche Radio & other stations overnight.

I also get a lot of news here

sandra


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: DougR
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 09:06 PM

Fox News (of course)

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: artbrooks
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 09:22 PM

AP feed, CNN.com, MSNBC.com, Wash Post once in a while.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 09:32 PM

Start here... http://www.refdesk.com/, then scroll down on the right.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 09:37 PM

The Onion. They have better writers than most others.

Happy New Year, Doug.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 10:20 PM

Al Jazzera
CNN
Associated Press
UPI
International Herald Tribune
BBC
NPR
CBC
ABC (both of them)
CBS
NBC
Global Post

and a bunch of others I too tired to remember right now. It depends on what's happening.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Crowhugger
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 10:34 PM

My only daily "news": Local weather forecast online from Environment Canada. I especially like the weather radar to plan outdoor activity when rain is broadly forecast--I've become pretty good at estimating within 15 minutes when rain will hit the dog park.

Current affairs and sometimes inter/national (and whether I want it or not, Toronto news) from CBC radio. CBC never covers Durham Region. But nor do CTV, Global & CITY, unless there's a major crime. The only local news for my area (east of Toronto) comes from the thrice-weekly junk newspapers--4 pages of badly written news, 1 page of worse-ly written editorial, and 40 pages of ads and kiddie sports scores (hundreds of pages of ads in the weeks pre-Xmas & Boxing week). It has never, ever occurred to me to visit their web site.

For occasional big-picture national and international affairs I check out The Walrus online.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Songwronger
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 10:43 PM

RefDesk looks interesting. It has a lineup of international news agencies. I used to go to the Drudge Report for that lineup, but I got tired of his site.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 10:44 PM

In defense of The Onion, here are their headlines over the past while:

Bumbling Ragtag Regiment Achieves Heartwarming Victory In Iraq

Iraq War Memorial Planners Forced To Revise Length Again

Unmanned Military Drone Briefly Grasps Senselessness Of War

White House Announces Best Way To Support Troops Is To Never Mention War In Iraq

Iraq Declares Partial Law

Infographic: Where Did U.S. Money Go In Iraq?

Bush Announces Iraq Exit Strategy: 'We'll Go Through Iran'

Iraqis Arming Selves For Independence

Proposed Bill Would Bring 4,000 Troops Back To Life

Infographic: Iraq's Little Victories

Abu Ghraib Inside Joke Lost On Rest Of World

Last Corner In Iraq Turned, Forming Dodecahedron

Vital Info On Iraqi Chemical Weapons Provided By U.S. Company That Made Them

Gay War Hero Awarded Posthumous Dishonorable Discharge At White House Ceremony

Obama Declares Victory, Sort Of, Depending On How You Look At It, In Iraq

U.S. Plans To Give Every Iraqi $3,544.91 And Let Free Market Do Rest

New Fox Reality Show To Determine Ruler Of Iraq

Iraqi Cop Moonlighting As Terrorist Just To Make Ends Meet

Point/Counterpoint: This War Will Destabilize The Entire Mideast Region And Set Off A Global Shockwave Of Anti-Americanism vs. No it won't by Bob Sheffer

Local Mom Whips Up Some Of Her Famous War Pie

Network News Satellites Collide Over Iraq


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Songwronger
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 10:51 PM

My favorite Onion story


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: andrew e
Date: 29 Dec 11 - 08:47 AM

Songwronger, What Really Happened is my first stop too, and I just about go with all of Michael Rivero's comments.

I also check local news sites, ABC[Australia] and The Courier Mail.

Also David Icke, Information Clearing House and The Truth Seeker.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Crowhugger
Date: 29 Dec 11 - 10:34 AM

999, is The Onion typically that Iraq-centric or does the list represent the subject material you have in mind when you go to their site?


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Dec 11 - 10:42 AM

Interesting, Songwronger... RefDesk is maintained by Matt Drudge's father.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Dec 11 - 10:53 AM

By the way... if you scroll WAY down at RefDesk, you find links to most of the online newspapers in the world.
When there are earthquakes in New Zealand, I read about them from N.Z. papers.
It can be interesting to read about Korean or Russian news from English language papers published in Korea or Russia.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Dec 11 - 10:55 AM

BBC every time


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Dec 11 - 10:59 AM

I get BBC America on my TV, and they cover a wide range of topics... but they talk funny and everyone seems to sign off by saying "bye-bye for now".

;>)


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 29 Dec 11 - 11:54 AM

DougR - you sound rather proud. You are aware that numerous studies have shown that the more you watch Fox, the less you know (in terms of actual facts, not just opinions). It is not just a slogan.

Keep watching your Fox (as I do), but please mix in some other sources as well.

Do you have a local paper?
How about some BBC?


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 29 Dec 11 - 12:00 PM

I allus check out the bulletan board at the Iron Horse Tavern, eh? They've got, like, stuff up there abowt the next Wet T-shrit Contest and other inporatnt things that peple need to know abowt.

- Shane


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: DougR
Date: 29 Dec 11 - 04:17 PM

Yes, TIA, I read our local newspaper and subscribe to the Wall Street Journal, but all my television news comes from Fox News because it is the only conservative leaning cable network available.

What the heck would I learn listening to MSNBC or any of the other liberal cable networks or regular "main stream" networks.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Dec 11 - 04:19 PM

The truth?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 29 Dec 11 - 04:27 PM

BBCamerica(24hr.), Aljazeera, NYTimes online, Washington Post online.
Local, Canada- CTV, Global, Shaw.ca
Google search

Never look at blogonews


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Dec 11 - 04:35 PM

I simply take a quick look at the headlines twice a day on Google. If there's anything there that I think is worth reading more about, I look further into it. The latter (things worth reading more about) usually comprises only about 5% of what is termed "the News" in this society...if that.

I also take a quick look at the daily newspaper. I find print journalism far more comprehensive and worthwhile than listening to a radio broadcast or watching the TV.

Have you noticed that about 90% of what is termed "the News" on radio and TV is bad news? A great deal of it is gossip, sensationalism, politically partisan infighting, and crime and disaster stories. Focusing on it does not help people's general state of mind, and most of it is about stuff they can't do anything about and which has nothing directly to do with their own lives...but they still get upset about it! This results in a population that commonly feels helpless, imperilled, angry, and frustrated much of the time...not to mention powerless. I don't see that as being beneficial. I see it as an empty exercise in achieving a certain level of mind control (from the government's point of view), pushing conformity, and marketing commercial products by attracting listeners who will then get to hear some advertising along with "the News".

One can avoid most of that by reading print journalism instead of tuning into radio and TV.

I do find myself occasionally hearing a News broadcast on CBC radio (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation...where there are no ads), and by about halfway through it I think, "Now why did I just waste a couple of minutes of my day listening to this?" and I walk away and do something else instead.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 29 Dec 11 - 05:10 PM

CBC? What is that?

Sorry to ask that, because it used to be a good service.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Dec 11 - 05:35 PM

Canadian Broadcorping Castration....no, wait! ;-) Sorry! Canadian Broadcasting Corporation! It's an organization that hurls loose women across provincial borders, using gigantic trebuchets that are mounted near the provincial borders. In this way each province attempts to preserve a certain measure of social decorum whilst imperilling the decorum of the neighbouring provinces. Newfoundland and B.C. and P.E.I. are disadvantaged in this respect, because they are all only in effective broadcasting range of ONE other province, whereas Ontario or Quebec, for example can both reach THREE other provinces AND the USA with their trebuchets! This has led to regional arguments which may yet result in secession by the disadvantaged provinces. Newfoundland in particular is becoming absolutely overrun with loose women! This makes it a fun place to visit, but is quite embarrassing to Newfoundland politicians and clergy. I hardly dare think where it all may end!


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Dec 11 - 02:05 AM

Inter-Galactic Space Telephone!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 30 Dec 11 - 02:40 AM

I like to eat my breakfast in peace and quiet, so the first official news I get is normally from BBC Radio 4 on the way to work in the car. After that it's the Daily Telegraph and BBC Radio 4 again on the way home. Everything on TV seems to be endless repeats of the things I've already heard during the day.

When it comes to breaking news of events such as earthquakes, volcanoes and famous people dying, that often comes right here on Mudcat as I scan the threads while I'm eating my porridge. Doesn't work for politics or long running wars and conflicts, though, as I avoid those threads where possible.


DC


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Dec 11 - 03:01 AM

Yes, Doug. I also use Mudcat as an excellent Early Warning System for pretty much all fast breaking news events. ;-)

For international politics analysis, I find Eric Margolis' weekly column quite handy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Dec 11 - 03:27 AM

Don Firth: "The truth?"

Don Firth


I couldn't have said it better!!!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Dec 11 - 05:29 AM

I qualify my previous remark, by saying BBC Online, AND, BBC Radio 4


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 30 Dec 11 - 06:16 AM

I appear to be the lone wolf.
FT.com. Financial Times of London
WSJ.com
thenational.ae
gulfnews.com
Arabnews.com
2600.com (the hacker quarterly)

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 30 Dec 11 - 06:29 AM

BBC News Channel (but only once round the cycle) and BBC Radio 4.

And it surprises the hell out of me how many people are unaware that "News"papers haven't dealt in either news or truth for more than forty years.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: autolycus
Date: 30 Dec 11 - 06:46 AM

BBC
Reuters
Guardian
Talkboards acting as early warning systems, as someone said upthread.
Miscellaneous.

At least as important as the sources is having learnt about the mass media to know something of how they work and how to evaluate them.

I did this via interests in communication itself, politics, economics, philosophy, sociology and psychotherapy. That last is useful for things like cognitive dissonance, which helps to explain why people can't see what's right infrot of them sometimes. The psychotherapy was also useful for understanding my own biases. That list of subjects gives me a framework for trying to understand what goes on.

Miscellaneous includes things like the prog now on Beeb radio 4 "U.K.Confidential 1981", a first look at the government documents released now under the 30-year rule.

In it we learn e.g. that when Thatcher said "We don't negotiate with the IRA cos they are criminals", she and her government were actually doing just that - negotiating. Thus, by extension, we can see that when democratic governments make definite assertions, that is not proof that they are telling the truth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: kendall
Date: 30 Dec 11 - 07:03 AM

NBC, CBS, BBC, Maine Sunday Telegram, Yahoo, Time magazine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: number 6
Date: 30 Dec 11 - 07:17 AM

Der Spiegel Online

Huffington Post Canada


biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: lefthanded guitar
Date: 30 Dec 11 - 12:26 PM

Daily News, which used to be quite a reactionary rag when Tom Paxton was singing about it, but considering the seismic shift to the right the country's undergone; it's almost the Nation (yes I'm kidding)

any major network- CBS, ABC, etc.

Whatever pops up on my computer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Dec 11 - 01:17 PM

Don't go to the media for "the truth." decide that for yourself. Get information from the media.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Joe_F
Date: 30 Dec 11 - 04:42 PM

Google News (personalized) allows me to choose my source for each story. After going thru that, I bring up the Boston Globe for local news.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which news sources do you use?
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Dec 11 - 04:49 PM

On my local NPR affiliate (having said THAT, there are some here who are so self-appointedly "open-minded" that they will dismiss the following entirely), every Friday morning there is an in-studio discussion (KUOW-FM's studios in Seattle' University District) which includes several media reporters of varied political positions talking about events during the preceding week.

Interesting program. In addition to my own channel-surfing, dial-twisting, newspaper-reading, and internet-combing, I have a chance to listen to knowledgeable people with differing opinions and differing philosophies discuss and evaluated current events and attempt to defend their viewpoints.

It gives me a fairly broad and varied perspective from which to form my own views.

Also, last night I watch Charlie Rose's interview with Harry Belafonte, who, for those who don't know, is quietly politically very active. When asked about Obama, Bellafonte's comments were somewhat restrained, but it was obvious that he was deeply disappointed. But, he cautioned, "When you consider the alternatives . . . (shudder!!)."

Heard on another radio program:

Interviewer:   "What would you consider to be a good campaign song for the Republicans in this coming election?"

Interviewee:   "Send in the Clowns!"

Put it in circulation.

Don Firth


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