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Subject: Texas swing for mandolin From: Hokumsheik Date: 29 Dec 11 - 12:18 PM Recently came across some Pete Martin arrangements for "solo" mandolin. http://www.mandolincafe.com/petemartin.html Melody chords over moving bass line Wonderful stuff Does anyone know of any others? |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 29 Dec 11 - 12:24 PM The Fiddler's Fake Book has swing pieces with chords. No tab. |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: Hokumsheik Date: 29 Dec 11 - 12:34 PM Thanks for the suggestion but I'm looking more for arrangements for 1 instrument accompanying itself, in this case the mandolin |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: pdq Date: 29 Dec 11 - 12:55 PM Kenneth "Jethro" Burns (yes, of the comedy act of Homer and Jethro) was essentially a Swing musician and the greatest exponent of the mandolin ever known. Lotsa stuff by "Jethro" on David Grisman's record label Acoustic Disc. |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: GUEST,FloraG Date: 30 Dec 11 - 03:56 AM I dont want lots - just recommend a ' must do ' piece. At the moment I tend to use my mando for rags and a few classical bits - so a swing tune with chords would be good for my lovely gentle underused mando. Thanks FloraG. |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: GUEST,Hokumsheik Date: 30 Dec 11 - 08:16 AM Hi FloraG I think that we're looking for more or less the same repertoire. So far I've collected from Peter Martin ; www.petimarpress.com Texas Style D progression Little Rock Getaway Chord Voicing & Ragtime Annie From Mandolin Magazine : http://www.mandolinmagazine.com/workshops/ Burns arrangement of Just A closer Walk with Thee I've also started checking out 4sting banjo sites The Hunt Is On !!! |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 30 Dec 11 - 11:02 AM "a swing tune with chords would be good for my lovely gentle underused mando." Look at 'The Fiddler's Fake Book." (Try your library.) It has tunes and chords. There aren't a whole lot of swing tunes, so I wouldn't recommend buying it just for them. |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: Leadfingers Date: 30 Dec 11 - 01:21 PM Not 'Tab' and not solo , but some excellent Western Swing from this lot |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: GUEST,FloraG Date: 30 Dec 11 - 01:47 PM I play ragtime annie on the fiddle - great tune but not very well known at the sessions I go to. I like to do tunes others can join in with. Do you do it in 3 parts? I've got the fiddlers fake book - picked up sones rag and Dallas from that. Both good on the mandolin - but again - not well known. I like sweet georgia brown - I might try that on the mandolin, but currently working on Take 5. FloraG |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 30 Dec 11 - 04:10 PM Take 5 by Brubeck? I'm impressed. |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: GUEST,FloraG Date: 30 Dec 11 - 05:48 PM Yep. I thought I'd find out who the real drummers were with that one. FloraG |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: Hokumsheik Date: 31 Dec 11 - 09:01 AM re ; Bad Quote - 'It ain't what you play it's the way that THEY play it' The reason I'm looking for Tabs & not just chord names & melody is to understand other peoples approach to Texas Swing Think Joe Pass - Freddie Green etc One bass note, two or three note chord, melody note on top... |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: Hokumsheik Date: 31 Dec 11 - 09:04 AM & yes I do know that Joe Pass & Freddy Green are not considered to be Texas Swing Mandolin Players - That will teach me to re-read before I hit send ! LOL |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: GUEST,John Foxen Date: 31 Dec 11 - 10:04 AM Check out Evan Marshall, The Lone Arranger. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCIJPCbAO1U OK, so the William Tell Overture is no more Texas swing than Joe Pass and Freddy Green but it may give you some ideas. |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: JohnInKansas Date: 31 Dec 11 - 04:31 PM "Western Swing," according to some, is what happened when fiddles were allowed in "Western Bands." This was a pretty radical move at the time, but people accepted it fairly rapidly, at least in the radical West Coast area (hence the name). Several bands also did the unthinkable, and added a drummer, which caused an even more bitter divide for a while. Since a band that has a fiddle, and especially a band that had a drummer doesn't need a mandolin (as they're usually played in genres close to those who did it, where the "chops" are just an imitation snare drum), some older devotees would say that playing "Western Swing" on a mandolin is therefor sacriligious, but you'll be fine if you avoid old people. Younger generations have pretty much accepted the migration of the genre into a "sort of jazz" rather than as "bastardized country." For a good collection of representative tunes, I'd suggest Stacy Phillips' Western Swing Fiddle. It has notated fiddle lines, with chords named. It does not, in the version I have, include TAB, although the publisher did produce TAB versions of quite a few of their music books. Full citation: Western Swing Fiddle, Stacy Phillips, Oak Publications, 1994, ISBN 0.8256.1122.9, Oak Order No OK 64907, paperback, approx 160 pp. If you don't read dots, and can't find a TAB version of this book, even the table of contents might be a help for what to look for, and is: ROOTS OF WESTERN SWING FIDDLE Wild Dog —1928 After You've Gone — 1936 Harmony —1935 Peor Es Nada — mid 1930s SWINGING THE BLUES Black Rider — 1938 Swing Blues #1 — 1936 Corrine, Corinna — 1934 Crafton's Blues — 1935 Milk Cow Blues —1941 Milk Cow Blues — 1937 Milk Cow Blues Milk Cow Blues — second solo New Falling Rain Blues — 1940 Corrine, Corrina — 1936 THE BOB WILLS LEGACY Corrine, Corrina — 1940 Corrine, Corrina-1940 Corrine, Corrina — 1970 Bob Wills Special — 1940 Bob Wills Special Take Me Back to Tulsa — 1941 Take Me Back to Tulsa —1941 Take Me Back to Tulsa — 1941 Take Me Back to Tulsa —1970 Stay All Night —1946 Stay All Night —1973 Miss Molly —1942 Miss Molly —1942 Miss Molly —1942 Miss Molly —1942 Miss Molly —1942 Miss Molly —1942 Fat Boy Rag —1946 Spanish Two Step — 1935 San Antonio Rose —1938 Maiden's Prayer —1946 Faded Love —1964 Lone Star Rag 1 —1940 Lone Star Rag 1 —1940 Cotton Eyed Joe — 1946 Osage Stomp — 1949 Osage Stomp — 1977 HOT FIDDLE MUSIC, TEXAS STYLE Train Song — ca. 1935 Lone Star Rag 2 —1949 Let's Go —1937 Rainbow — 1938 Silver Bells — 1981 Hi Flyer Stomp — 1937 Hi Flyer Stomp — second solo Pussywillow — 1940 Tulsa Twist — 1941 Draggin' the Bow — 1936 Draggin' the Bow — 1949 Draggin' the Bow — 1981 Draggin' the Bow — ca. 1960 Draggin' the Bow — early 50s Dirty Dog Blues — 1937 Gulf Coast Special — 1942 Sagebrush Shuffle — 1942 Sometimes-1941 THE WEST COAST SOUND AND THE SECOND GENERATION Texas Crapshooter —1935 Texas Crapshooter — 1940 Cajon Stomp — 1935 Cajon Stomp —1937 Three Way Boogie — 1946 Maiden's Prayer — 1937 Panhandle Rag — 1949 Panhandle Rag — 1956 Panhandle Rag — 1977 Milk Cow Blues —1973 I'm Gonna Get Mad — 1946 Guitar Boogie Woogie — 1948 Lady Be Good —1983 Sioux City Sue —1946 THE NASHVILLE VERSION Fiddle Patch —1965 Maiden's Prayer — 1978 Panhandle Rag — 1974 Cactus Set Up —1978 JOHNNY GIMBLE Swing '42 — 1981 Rainy Day Monday Blues —1981 Rainy Day Monday Blues — second solo Columbus Stockade Blues — 1981 Beaumont Rag —1974 Don't Let Your Deal Go Down — 1974 Corrine, Corrina —1970 Take Me Back to Tulsa — 1970 Fat Boy Rag — 1981 End of the Line — 1950 End of the Line — 1976 An Old Watermill — 1985 Kansas City Stomp — 1984 THE DANCES Old Madeira Waltz — 1935 Homecoming Waltz — 1941 Churning Butter —1935 Topeka Polka — 1948 Bon Ton Schottische — ca. 1935 Hop, Skip and Jump over Texas — 1947 Tableau Clog Dance — 1938 Phillips is a pretty well known fiddle, but he was still a juvenile when I first heard him. His selections possibly are a little more inclusive of the current state of the "type" than you might find in some other collections, but shouldn't steer you into directions that will result in bodily injuries when you run into the few Note that Phillips is a very good fiddler so some of his melody lines may need some adaptation for the heavier mandolin fingering. Variations are generally appropriate in the style. John |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: Hokumsheik Date: 03 Jan 12 - 08:41 AM Thank you JohnInKansas & a happy new year A most impressive list... Meanwhile - here I am on my own with mandolin & harp-rack ! LOL |
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Subject: RE: Texas swing for mandolin From: zozimus Date: 03 Jan 12 - 05:27 PM Tiny Moore is the man to listen to for Western Swing, and also Johnny Gimble. Tiny played in the Bob Wills band and can be heard to great effect on the "Tiffany Transcriptions" L/Ps set. The problem with swing is the need for a guitarist playing backup "Sock" chords. I don't think it works for solo mandolin. Tiny Moore released a book and tape on his method many years ago, which is now out of print. If you cannot locate it in your library, send me a PM nad I'll see what i can do. Jethro's star pupil, Don Sternberg has made some wonderful CDs. You should also seek out a CD by Johhny Staats and Robert Shafter called "Pickin' Up Steam". If you have to work solo, you need Jethro Burns Book ( Mel Bay) and get a hold of his classic CD "Tea For One". Look up Mandolin Cafe for further material by the likes of Dix Bruce. Happy Pickin' |
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