BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!

Subject: RE: BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 02 Jan 12 - 12:18 PM

There are no computers, televisions or radio telescopes in the Bible - therefore I refuse to believe that they exist! But, hang on ... I'm typing this on a computer keyboard ... which doesn't exist ...Oh, never mind, I'm sure that God knows all the answers!

Subject: RE: BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jan 12 - 12:08 PM

There are many differing views of "God". Some are useful to society. Some are not. I could give examples, but I'd have to go on typing for days...and I don't have time for that.

Subject: RE: BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!
From: Stringsinger
Date: 02 Jan 12 - 12:04 PM

Jack, there are sweatshops extant in the US today, we don't have to worry about working for the Chinese. We certainly aren't going to stop this practice through another "creationist" doctrine.

If we learn anything from theology, it should be that of liberation theology, not scientific in application but a model for how we can equal the playing field for the have-nots and those cheaters who are hoarding taxpayer dollars for themselves.

Again, a doctrine just to define someone's view of a god is not useful to society.

Subject: RE: BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jan 12 - 12:03 PM

One has to wonder why "God" (assuming the existence of such an intervening entity in the first place) would bother creating a whole bunch of misleading scientific evidence to make His (or Her) created human beings believe they were living on a planet far older than it really is!

What would be the purpose of such sleight of hand? To make both atheists AND religious people happy?

AHA! That must be it! God wanted everyone to be happy and to get to be "right" (or at least feel that they were) even though they disagree with each other about really basic stuff.

Animals don't have to worry about any of that. God must like them even better than He (or She) (or It) likes us human beings...although we are (in the view of some)...animals...ummm...

Hmmm. Gets a bit confusing, doesn't it? Now where DID Adam's sons find those women they went off and married?

Christianity's only been around for about 2,000 years. That's a very small chunk of time in the overall tale of humanity on this planet. It's amazing that a cultural phenomenon that's only been around since, relatively speaking, last week can exert this much power over people's minds, but hey....look at the effect Justin Bieber is having! And he's only been around about as long as a fruit fly.

So anything's possible.

Subject: RE: BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!
From: GUEST,Shining Wit
Date: 02 Jan 12 - 11:57 AM

Good idea.

Whilst we're there we can also ask them what scientific evidence they have to support the YE/creationist fallacy. Show me a horse in the Solnhofen limestone alongside Archaeopteryx. Show me a whale fossil amongst the numerous ammonite fossils that contain the extinct reptile fossils amongst them. You'll need several, but if you're right those fossils are there. Somewhere amongst the Burgess Shale you should find a modern, bony fish.

Make yourself the most famous person in the history of science by proving, by turning scientists own tools against then, that dinosaurs existed alongside horses, or rhinos or whatever. Unequivocally. Think of it! You would change the world. You'd be immortal! Palaeontologists would love you for this massive advance in our knowledge. You'll have statues of you in the halls of the world's great museums.

Subject: BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Jan 12 - 11:46 AM

Somehow I got sucked into reading about half of a year old thread about an ages old argument until I skipped to the end and found that the thread had been updated to report recent news on the subject.

But I did not skip until I had read the original poster opine that like an artist, the creator of the universe had created his work of art, the universe, with an "ideal time line" (His explanation of "ideal" has something to do with The Macbeths being married when the play starts) of 14 billion years a few thousand years ago.

But isn't this the solution to the "evolution vs creation" debate. Can't we just go to New Hampshire and all those places trying to teach "Creation Science" and say to the school boards something like, "Hey we get that you believe that God created us and all that and have no problem with you as a school board telling kids that you believe that, but we believe that God created all of this evidence and if we don't teach it as science then in a generation or two your kids will be working in sweat shops making technology for the Chinese."