Richard Gillis - music from Cable Hogue

Subject: Richard Gillis - music from Cable Hogue
From: Songwronger
Date: 08 Jan 12 - 08:01 PM

Couldn't find the name Richard Gillis in a Mudcat search.

Watched a movie called "The Ballad of Cable Hogue" a few days ago. Directed by Sam Peckinpah. Jerry Goldsmith did the score, apparantly in collaboration with a songwriter named Richard Gillis.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065446/soundtrack

A link to a page with information about the soundtrack.

An interview with Stella Stevens (female lead in "Cable Hogue") was on the DVD I watched, and she talked about the music briefly. She said something about Gillis playing in a bar where Peckinpah and his people drank, in Hollywood, I assume. She said Peckinpah liked Gillis' music and it ended up in the film.

Anyone know anything about Richard Gillis?

Subject: RE: Richard Gillis - music from Cable Hogue
From: GUEST,A H White
Date: 07 Apr 12 - 03:31 PM

I know all about Richard Gillis. I managed him during that period. Why are you interested in Richard Gillis.

Subject: RE: Richard Gillis - music from Cable Hogue
From: GUEST,A H White
Date: 13 Apr 12 - 07:43 PM

Richard sang and played at the Olive Branch Bar, in Burbank, near Warner Bros Studios, as well as Jason's in Toluca Lake. Not Hollywood.
The guy that introduced him to Peckenpah was Gorden Dawson through his friend Bud Davis, via yours truly.

Subject: RE: Richard Gillis - music from Cable Hogue
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Apr 12 - 10:46 PM

Guest, A H White, this is a music discussion forum. We're interested in lots of performers and their music.

A Google search on Richard Gillis comes up with some information.

This talks about the movie of reference specifically. From the site:

Peckinpah decided to utilise the songs of Richard Gillis for his movie. You may not have heard of Richard Gillis. This is because he was a bar singer the director just happened to come across, and he hired him there and then on a whim. He was even going to get him to write the movie's score, but wiser heads prevailed and Goldsmith got the gig.

Saddled (pun intended) with having to work with Gillis's songs as a centrepiece, Goldsmith did not get much of a chance to make an impression with his score. (Indeed, of the 37 minutes of music on this album, which is a complete musical representation of the picture, only about 20 minutes make up original score - then there's six minutes worth of Goldsmith songs and eleven minutes of Gillis compositions.) Probably the most impressive contribution by Goldsmith is his song, "Tomorrow is the Song I Sing", a laid-back western ballad sung, reasonably appealingly, by Gillis. Not one to stick in the memory, but pleasant enough.

His score is exceptionally low-key, performed for the most part by a tiny ensemble at any one time. There's a lovely piece for flute, guitar and harmonica - "The Rattlesnakes" - "Three Hours Early" is a real barnstormer, over far too quickly - and when the melody from Goldsmith's song is worked into the score, it works a treat. The music struggles to leave much of an impression, however - it is an acquired taste for sure, much more along the lines of the subtle, bucolic sections of Wild Rovers than the wild, wild west Americana of Rio Conchos.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0319311/ is the first place anyone should look for movie information in this day and age. (And on a personal note, I haven't seen Cable Hogue, but many years ago I saw the dystopian drama A Boy And His Dog and didn't notice the music, so I'll have to go back and give it a listen.)

SRS

Subject: RE: Richard Gillis - music from Cable Hogue
From: GUEST,mike bishop
Date: 25 Jan 13 - 10:48 AM

anybody knows how to get in contact with Richard Gillis ?

Subject: RE: Richard Gillis - music from Cable Hogue
From: GUEST,g. anderson
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 01:54 PM

don't know where he is now, but I do remember going to listen to him sing at Jason's in Toluca Lake with his girlfriend, Karen. Many wonderful songs, a unique voice and good times.

Subject: RE: Richard Gillis - music from Cable Hogue
From: GUEST,billtkd
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 03:52 PM

Richard Gillis' address is on the liner to his CD, 'Blow the Gates to Heaven'. It is [e-mail] and
4000 W Magnolia Blvd
Suite D-#144
Burbank CA 91505-2827
The theme song from 'The Ballad of Cable Hogue' ('Tomorrow is the Song I Sing'') is on the CD.

Subject: RE: Richard Gillis - music from Cable Hogue
From: GUEST,billtkd
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 03:57 PM

I forgot to add, the soundtrack CD for 'The Ballad of Cable Hogue' was a limited edition of 3000 but the whole album is available to download in high quality (FLAC) with artwork from http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/jerry-goldsmith-ballad-cable-hogue-1970-2002-a-120724/.

Subject: RE: Richard Gillis - music from Cable Hogue
From: GUEST,Guest Rick Martin
Date: 22 Apr 14 - 04:31 AM

Loved the movie, But the song I really liked is Wait for me sunrise. I would like to know where I can find that song.

Subject: RE: Richard Gillis - music from Cable Hogue
From: GUEST,Henry Stanny
Date: 06 Aug 14 - 01:17 PM

I've been looking for the sheet music from "Tomorrow is the Song I Sing" forever. Neither Warner Bros. nor Carol Goldsmith seems to have it. I wonder if Richard still has his?

Subject: RE: Richard Gillis - music from Cable Hogue
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Oct 19 - 08:33 AM

Richard Gillis died on 31st July 2019:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/richard-gillis-dead-ballad-cable-hogue-songwriter-was-80-1231501

Apart from 'The Ballad of Cable Hogue' soundtrack and 'Blow the Gates to heaven', these are only other records I can find (all 45s):
'Tomorrow is the Song I Sing'/'Butterfly Mornings' (Promo for the movie. The first track is different from the two versions in The Ballade of Cable Hogue and the second is Gillis' vocal rather than Stevens/Robards on the soundtrack.)
'CB Santa Claus'
'Think It Over'/'Yesterday's Gone'