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Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort

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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 27 Sep 17 - 09:24 PM

Thank you for letting us know, Maeve, and it's good to hear from you.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 27 Sep 17 - 07:41 PM

You GO Nigel!!!! Give 'er all she's got and don't back off 'til she breaks, me son!

Don't know if you ever heard this before but it's the ultimate piece of humour I have ever heard.

Da Yammie


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: maeve
Date: 27 Sep 17 - 08:44 AM

Logging in briefly to joyfully report, as of an hour ago Nigel tells me "I'm back home?recovery time anything up to a month?pain control is the main issue at present."

If anyone would like to send encouraging notes, reasons for joy and laughter, and links to beautiful music, kindly post them here (or via PM to me) and I'll forward them directly to Nigel as well, since it may well be a wee while before he feels like accessing MC himself. Thank you. Maeve


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 25 Sep 17 - 05:12 PM

I've been away from MC for a few days. I just read about
Nigel's rescheduled surgery. It must be done by now! I hope all went well and look forward to reading that it did.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ranger1
Date: 24 Sep 17 - 07:30 PM

Will be sending good thoughts your way, Nigel.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 23 Sep 17 - 10:03 PM

I was wondering where you were as I opened this thread!

Best wishes for the surgery

sandra


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 23 Sep 17 - 05:41 PM

Good luck, Nigel.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 23 Sep 17 - 06:07 AM

Surgery rescheduled for Monday, 25th September. If all goes to plan, I should be 'drifting off' around 13:00 hrs, UK time.
                                           Much Love to All,
                                                                      Nigel.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Sep 17 - 08:40 PM

Reprise of the wit and wisdom of Spaw courtesy of Sandra of Sydney

5K page book


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Sep 17 - 01:09 PM

Sympathy for Nigel:
he cancels his holiday in Greece
and then the hospital cancels the surgery
that he was to have had instead of the holiday.

Expletive deleted.

Or should that be,

Murphy's Law?

Hang in there, sir.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 18 Sep 17 - 05:36 PM

I've got love and prayers no quick fixes.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Sep 17 - 03:54 PM

Dean is among the millions of kids who are depressed and suppressed by the internet.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Sep 17 - 03:50 PM

for all needing comfort and support who wear short shorts.

Ow


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 06:15 PM

Oh, dear! I hope someone will come into contact with Dean and give him the help he needs.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 05:15 PM

Update on Dean;
He attends a special school and a children's hospital out patient program.

To my surprise they seem to be ignorant in the treatment of the biggest mental health crises for children born after 1999.

read
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/darwins-subterranean-world/201707/the-mental-health-crisis-is-upon-the-internet-generation

or listen
https://ww2.kqed.org/forum/2017/09/12/psychologist-jean-twenge-on-how-the-smartphone-has-shaped-a-generation/

I believe the prescription treatment he receives is 180 degrees the wrong way. This is something that must be addressed.
At least Dean is in an enormous group that will be seeking similar strategies in life.

Old school advice of "you'll put your eye out" or "you will go blind" or "It'll rot your brain" is no better than new school advice.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: keberoxu
Date: 13 Sep 17 - 03:26 PM

An acquaintance who lives outside of Sarasota checked in, post-Irma.
Their property really suffered very little considering what they expected. They were able to restore power, so they are not deprived that way. Many old oak trees are on the property, around both house and barn; the trees, amazingly, still stand. Obviously a lot of branches are no longer on the trees, but the trees still stand.

Minor repairs are needed to the house and the property fencing.
The pet cats are well.
She says the bats are all right as well. Not sure, am I, regarding the bats: I suspect they are not pets, but that her property has ecologically approved bat-dwellings constructed, and that some bats have made themselves at home there.
And her colony of bees also survived.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 11 Sep 17 - 03:36 PM

Janie, I'm glad your family members are okay. I hope you soon learn that your friends are, too. I also hope their properties are undamaged.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 11 Sep 17 - 12:46 PM

Glad to report that all my Florida family have checked in as safe. Some can't get back to their homes yet to assess for damage - but all are safe, which is the main thing.

Still waiting to hear from friends on Little Torch Key who did not evacuate. I know Little Torch and Big Pine were hit very hard, both with wind and with storm surge. Very little info coming out thus far, but search and rescue missions are beginning to deploy. Hopefully more info will be coming soon.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 10 Sep 17 - 04:22 AM

Janie, best wishes to you & your family & others in the danger zone.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 09 Sep 17 - 12:15 AM

Janie, I hope your family comes through this safely. Let us know after things have settled down.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 11:27 PM

Most of my family lives on the east and west coasts of Florida. Satellite Beach and Melbourne on the east coast and Sarasota on the West Coast. Because of the tremendous gridlock on roads and at airports since Wednesday, evacuating the state has not been a reasonable option, combined with the inability to really predict just where this huge, monster storm will go. Family has not been able to ascertain which coast to shelter on, or even if sheltering much further inland is the best plan.

I'm nervous and fearful for them as can be. They have all been in Florida for many, many years and this is not their first rodeo, but they are all clearly scared about this one. Please hold all Floridians in your thoughts, meditations, and prayers.

I'm always concerned for them when hurricanes hit Florida, but right now I am really anxious and scared for them. Maybe more than is warranted. I'm not usually a hand=wringer, but can't help myself at this particular time.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: keberoxu
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 01:32 PM

No response other than to say goodnight back atcha, gnu, and hurry back soon; some of us will genuinely miss you.

Please be back in time for your next birthday, anyhow.
To whom else can I sing Flanders and Swann:

I'm a GNU spelt G N U
I'm g-Not a Camel or a Kangaroo
So let me introduce
I'm g-Neither Man or Moose
O!
G-no, G-no, G-no,
I'm a GNU
?

(okay I'll shut up now)


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Sep 17 - 11:07 PM

Red Green, it is you.

Do ya think the immune response is not just autonomic but has an emotional trigger as well? If so, dread, fear, desperation and giving up may be powerful healing positives. I have anecdotal evidence this may be so. This flies in the face of current "positive attitude advocates".


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 07 Sep 17 - 08:38 PM

Donuel, I'm glad you're feeling better.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 07 Sep 17 - 04:56 PM

Thanks for the PMs. I must clarify my last post.

Those of you who know me know that when I post "gnightgnu" it means I am gone. Well, ahhh, yeah. That's it for now. I may be back in future. Please, no more PMs.

I'll see ya when I see ya. That's all. At ease. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em.

Keep yer stick on the ice. Stop the puck first and worry about the pain later. And keep yer head up when yer comin' across the Blue Line. That Blue Line will fuck you up late in the game. So, keep your laces tight.

Ha! Don't know why I add this but some will understand. Tight lines and straight shootin'!

Again, don't respond and don't PM me.

gnightgnu


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Sep 17 - 05:51 AM

Yaaay after a four week cold, lost voice fever cough sneeze fest I woke up today after a drenching sweat and I emerged the victor over that little annual virus. I can swallow again without pain.
No medicine or suppressants this time. This thorny Rhino virus had a big horn.
It was as though I didn't get better until I got a bit scared.
Fear is a motivator when taken in moderation.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 06 Sep 17 - 08:21 PM

gnightgnu


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 06 Sep 17 - 08:08 AM

keberoxu said - Nigel, hope the hospital does not hang you out to dry for much longer.

I'll second that


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 06 Sep 17 - 12:01 AM

Up with the tide!


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Sep 17 - 01:50 PM

keep this vessel on the horizon


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 01 Sep 17 - 06:42 PM

gnightgnu


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: keberoxu
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 02:34 PM

Joining the rest, Janie, in thanking you for reaching out to us -- it is an honor to support a caregiver like yourself.

Nigel, hope the hospital does not hang you out to dry for much longer.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 03:58 PM

I gotta quit smokin....again


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 03:53 PM

Still chillaxin' in the Great Green Fly Infested North Woods. I check in but don't have the energy or will to post much. Carry on. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 12:03 PM

Paradoxically , Jamie , your worrying that you are thinking of your own needs is rather evidence of how caring you are , and I suspect you are a great help to people you are caring for . With a prayer that you will pace yourself , and have rest and energy for the rest             Blessings all          Pete


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 11:03 PM

Such lovely, and loving, word images you paint of your grandmother, Tami. Thank you.

I can barely stand to watch or read the news regarding Harvey. So much suffering all over the world.

I need joy.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 08:34 PM

Sandra, by now I've seen those Harvey images and videos on tv, and they're horrifying. I always wonder if I was told to evacuate, would I? I'm pretty sure I would as quickly as possible. And if everything I owned was lost, I think I'd have a nervous breakdown!

Nigel, having prepared yourself emotionally for surgery only to have it postponed must be draining. I admire your concern for the cancer patient. When you have a new date, please let us know.

Janie, please take care of yourself. I'm glad you could tell us about your situation. You are aware of the help available to caregivers in your area. Use it and don't feel bad that you can't do everything without help. Of course, whatever help is available can't possibly be enough. Take all the advice and comfort you have given others and apply it to yourself. And stay in touch with us. Even if we can't be "there" for you, we're "here" for you.

Tami, I'm glad you have a plan for your grandmother's ashes. Because of your work, you must have several beautiful sites in mind. Indeed, it sounds like you do. She's lucky, your gran.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: frogprince
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 07:44 PM

(((Janie))) amen to what Tami said. I don't know that one person could possibly do all that their heart might be tugged to do under these circumstances.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ranger1
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 05:44 PM

Janie, you need to have those "me" moments. Otherwise you can't be there for others. Self-care is needed in order for us to help take care of others. It's not selfishness, it's survival. And you know this, dear one. So make the post and absorb the comfort and love to be found here.

And on a totally different tack, my mom handed off my share of my grandmother's ashes to me Tuesday AM at our biweekly breakfast out together. I will scatter them in beautiful places that I know she loved or would have loved to visit. The first place will be on the island that is an osprey nesting sanctuary at the park I work at, once the ospreys leave for the year. And some will go to Popham Beach, where I once took her. She hated having her picture taken, but she was so absorbed in beachcombing and watching the breakers roll in that she never noticed me taking half a dozen photos of her. She was so cute in her little blue rubber boots and her rain jacket. And other places will call her name in time. In the meantime, her urn is on my kitchen windowsill, with the birds, wildlife, and wildflowers in full view.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 12:45 PM

So, Nigel, cozy up in that chair with this warm cup of tea while you wait. There are some youngster seabirds wheeling around and occasionally landing up in the rigging that are fine and fun to watch.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 12:31 PM

Thinking today of a book I read many years ago by Joan Borysenko, "Guilt is the Teacher, Love is the Lesson."

I'm a natural born caregiver. It is in my DNA. One of the hardest things for many of us so constructed is to ask for support for ourselves when we need it to be able to continue to care for others.

From my life as a social worker I am acutely aware of how abundant the circumstances of my own life have always been, even during personally difficult times. You folks are part of that abundance.

So I feel guilty and narcissistic reaching out to say that I can use some good thoughts and support for myself right now. I feel like I ought to be asking for good thoughts and prayers for those I am supporting instead of support for myself, but I'm gonna take the 'lesson' seriously, and ask for what I need. Since I retired from clinic practice I no longer have the support and ear of colleagues and friends in the same field and who are much like me to lean on and help me keep perspective.

4 people I am very close to are facing end of life issues. They expect and need for me to be fully present with and for them, and that is what I want and need to do for them. But I am often feeling overwhelmed with sadness and fear that I am not equal to the task and will fail them, or somehow try to meet my own needs through them to their detriment. I'm spending way too much time questioning myself and my motives, or feeling like a young child lost in the wilderness.

This is a hard post for me to make. Because it is about me and not about the greater needs of these 4, dear people. Thing is, I know I am up to the work I have been given to do, but only if I reach out to ask for the support I need.

Thanks, Y'all.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 11:47 AM

Thank you, all for your kind thoughts. My surgery was cancelled, early Friday morning; a cancer patient needed urgent attention. So, the waiting begins again...the hospital said they would endeavour to reschedule within the next week or two. I'm left thinking about the cancer patient...did all go to plan? Was this their first operation? Does the future now look brighter for them? I'll never know...just hope they are doing well.
          Thank you, once again,
                                                Much Love to everyone,
                                                                                     Nigel.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 10:10 AM

photos


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 10:58 PM

Great photos, Sandra. I only looked at the top set but will go back later. I did see one taken in Ballarat. I've been watching the Dr. Blake series which is set there.

My thoughts, too, are with Nigel, and I'm looking forward to his next post.

My thoughts are also with the people along our Gulf Coast, especially those in Texas. There's a new thread about Texas. I hope everyone can weather this storm. Hurricane Harvey sounds dreadful.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 08:13 PM

There is a cozy, soft chair and a cup of tea waiting for you on deck, Nigel, assuming the seas are relatively calm otherwise and the wind not too brisk. Otherwise, we will move it and you down into the cozy galley, near the song circle, so you can join in or simply relax and listen - whatever suits.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 02:03 PM

Thinking of Nigel today.


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 06:16 AM

it's 25th Aug already here in the land of Oz ...

beautiful photos to look at while waiting


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 23 Aug 17 - 10:30 PM

Refresh!


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From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 21 Aug 17 - 10:59 AM

Sounds like a worthy music project Nigel .


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Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 18 Aug 17 - 06:49 PM

I check in. Kinda busy. Nuff said. Keep the faith.


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