Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 10 Feb 14 - 06:11 AM

Gnu, I think this is the perfect thread for you to rant, rave, vent & release those angers that build up inside all of us at various times in our lives. I think it's the perfect thread because your chances of being castigated & vilified for expressing your anger, passionately & clearly are virtually nil. I think most of us aboard understand & recognise that anger is an essential part of the Human Condition. It's an honest, authentic reaction. It's only when the written or verbalised anger takes on physical expression...we act out our anger & lash out, that problems occur. Anger is a huge source of energy. Can you now redirect that energy into something creative, something that would leave you feeling content & satisfied? I recognise your anger, I respect your anger. There is space & a place for it here.
                                                                                    With Love,
                                                                                                   Nigel
                                                                                                   xxxx

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 09 Feb 14 - 05:16 PM

Love you, gnu, and appreciate your retrospective self awareness. We all cut loose every now and again, somewhere or another.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 09 Feb 14 - 04:42 PM

Thanks, pete. Means a lot to me.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 09 Feb 14 - 03:21 PM

sometimes it helps to get it off your chest ,gnu.
at least this is an empathy thread rather than one of the others where some posters want to be argumentative.
blessings    pete.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 09 Feb 14 - 12:08 PM

Hmmm... I have to develope a better method for watchin me mouth.

Hope things are looking up for all.

I checked in with the Mudcatter I mentioned above. He hasn't had any big problems since December but he's still working on getting back to normal.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 03:47 PM

The cold is the problem because it isn't cold. It's too bloody warm. When BP spills that much oil into the waters of the Gulf Stream from The Gulf, shit happens... bad shit... and it's just gettin goin. Wait until the oil shows up on the beaches of the eastern seaboard of the US and in the Bay of Fundy and on the shores of Iceland, Britain, France and Spain. They had to cough up $20B to Obama and that pittance will never pay for the people of the southern US who will die from this horrible and avoidable transgression upon Mother Earth. These people and the rest of those affected and those soon to be affected are SOL. Not to mention those immediately affected after the Gulf oil spill because BP's cash flow and stock dropped... Libya, Egypt, Syria... sickening.

Sorry for the rant but we are under the gun here in nb.ca on fracking, the pipeline, offshore drilling, the raping and herbicide spraying of our forests, and so on. Sometimes, I just get so PsO I wanna POST!!! even tho this thread is meant for other purposes. Does the/my care and concern for the Brits that are hard put by the weather have anything to do with my rant? Up to the reader, I suppose.

I'll shut up now.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 03:36 PM

heard today that its been the worst weather in terms of wind and water for 300 yrs.
wishing well for everyone and especially tam in her pain and discomfort.       pete.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 11:14 AM

Adding my own thoughts of care and concern. I was only peripherally aware of what a beating the UK has been taking this winter, and from a friend's postings in Wales, sounds like today is even more dreadful - sounds like the equivalent of a hurricane, only worse because it is winter and cold.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 11:11 AM

The day we learn to live in harmony with nature, respecting it's 'rules' & behaviours, instead of continually trying to bend or break them to suit OUR 'rules' & behaviours, is the day Humankind might actually grow up a little.
         Spaw nailed it: "Environmental tragedies abound. Perhaps one of the best things we can do is acknowledge that this is part of the world we have created and convince others such is the case. One of the biggest problems is the failure to believe what is happening". Eloquent, succinct & above all, the truth.
                                              Keep Safe,
                                                             Nigel
                                                             xxxx

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 10:47 AM

Well said, all.

I know a mudcatter near the west coast whose home was flooded badly and his power was out for far too many days. Sewage was all that came out of the power outlets. That was back in early December.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 08:32 AM

Environmental tragedies abound. Perhaps one of the best things we can do is acknowledge that this is part of the world we have created and convince others such is the case. One of the biggest problems is the failure to believe what is happening.

In the meantime, my thoughts and wishes are for those affected directly get what they can in $$$ and support from the rest of us.


Spaw

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: billybob
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 07:40 AM

Well said Nigel, we have been counting our blessings here on the east coast, cannot imagine how those poor people can be feeling? Weeks and weeks of water! How can anyone get over the stench ? Hate to think what is in the water, dead animals ,human waste etc . Has anyone started a fund to help? After the gas explosion in Clacton the local people were collecting clothes , toiletries, money within hours for the folks made homeless. That was just a few families, the Somerset disaster is so huge it is heart breaking.

Sitting here in the warm and dry wondering what we can do?

With love

Wendy xxxx

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 07:20 AM

Forgive me, but today I want to concentrate my thoughts on the Good Folk of Britain who are beset by floods. Houses & contents ruined, livelihoods ruined, the Farming Community: "Ripped apart" as one distraught Farmer wept into the reporter's microphone. Livestock lost, land so saturated that it will take 'forever' to drain, swollen, unmanaged rivers, bursting their banks again & again. Road & rail communications severely compromised. Thousands of exhausted, good people who really are "At the end of their tether", with no tangible end in sight. As each day passes, the weather forecasters apologetically promise more of the same: more rain, more wind, more high tides. And as if this wasn't enough, ministers & politicians, inept, inert & seemingly paralysed to act. The fact that action should've been taken years ago (and maintained), is a question to which one never gets a straight answer. A parting thought: has anyone from the UK Government been talking to anyone in the Netherlands Government? They know a thing or two about water & land management do the Dutch.
                                           With Love to You All & hoping you are all safe & dry,
                                                                                                                         Nigel
                                                                                                                         xxxx

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 06:57 AM

Glad to hear Tommy is progressing.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 06:32 AM

Janie.. Not much creative expression going on at all. All energy is for work, which actually is a boon because it is the most effective distraction from the pain. I suspect when (if) the weather gets better, so will I. Rain and I do not get on well.

Pete.. I have a walker/transit chair. I can't currently use as a walker because a) I can't get it downstairs from 1st floor flat and b) pain in hands a wrists is near as bad as in feet and hips. Nearly impossible to get evening appts which the only time husband could drive me.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 08:40 PM

Janie, Maeve's posted on the obit thread for Bob McQuillen which is above the line. I don't know if she's been posting on other threads.

Pete, it's good to read that Tommy is making progress.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 06:41 PM

funnies, gnu and frogprince.
I,m sure I heard once about a man who cured himself of a serious illness by getting a lot of comedy vids, booking himself into a hotel and laughing himself better...not sure if it was a true story or not.
tommy is still making good progress, and up and about on his feet much more, thanks.
thoughts and prayer, tam. sounds really bad for you. I reckon husband man is probably right. could he perhaps borrow a wheelchair.....just a thought.
blessings all    pete.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 09:21 PM

*chuckle*

Also, great idea, gnu! I grew flowers for market on a small scale for several years, have a lopper just like that one, and wondering now why I never thought about using them to trim the ends of bouquets! I would have been in bed well before 3:00am and much less bleary-eyed on Market day if it had occurred to me.

Are you having time and energy to make any music, VT? It often amazes me to realize you are still going into work. I can't say I know what your experience is like, only that I have a couple of friends and have had a number of clients over the years with some of these hard-to-diagnose-much-less-treat, auto-immune disorders, and from them have an inkling of how debilitating and frustrating it can be to live with the myriad symptoms, including the pain. Hard to come to terms with the reality that not much is really known yet, and the effectiveness of treatments, much less side effects, are still a bit of a crap shoot.

Linn....nothing really can be said. Continue to hold you in my thoughts.

Pete, how is Billy faring?

Anyone have word from maeve?

Feeling the whole crew gathered 'round. Some one lead us in a round to row to?

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: frogprince
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 07:46 PM

gnu used that to trim the roses, 'cause his kitchen shears are too dull from cutting the padlock off the tool shed when he lost the key.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 07:37 PM

As Valentine's Day approaches, I figure ye lads could use some advice. Ya know that job of trimming the rose stalks so that they will take water? Well, here ya go eh? That's TWO dozen roses and the Baby's Breath clipped in one swat! No chainsaw required. Efficiency I says, me.

My thoughts to all.

Keep yer stick on the ice... we're all in this together... I'm pullin for ya. So sayeth Red Green. (You Tube Red - cool guy.)

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,sandra in sydney still cookiless
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 04:17 AM

I'll second the previous comments

love to all

sandra

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 05 Feb 14 - 09:21 PM

VirginiaTam, ouch! A couple of weeks seems like a long time to wait when you feel pain. I hope you get it all sorted out.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 05 Feb 14 - 01:51 PM

VTam... got no words.. all I can do is listen and hope.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: frogprince
Date: 05 Feb 14 - 11:48 AM

Wendy, Virginia Tam, Pete...all of ya...You're all in mind each day. Thanks be that some folks here are better than I am at contributing some genuine helpful perspective for those here who are really hanging on to the rail for dear life.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 05 Feb 14 - 11:19 AM

Count me in as a member of the Wendy Admiration Society. What a terrible fix to be in. Feeling anxious that your health and Billy's health by proxy will suffer for it. I still can offer no advice. You can only do what you feel is best for you and all concerned.

Sending my love and good wishes to all here.

I've had 3rd injection of anti-TNF, last week. No change for the better as yet. Pain is as bad as ever. Feet and hands are showing deformity now.   In fact, I feel worse re unrelenting fatigue. I go to sleep almost as soon as I get home from work most evenings and can barely move on the weekends.   Add near constant sore throat and nightly nose bleeds, the husband man is worried and wants me to go to the GP.

I don't have the energy even to do that. Surgery too near to take taxi and too far to walk.

I see RA consultant in a couple of weeks. We shall see what she has to say.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: billybob
Date: 05 Feb 14 - 07:54 AM

Janie, from the bottom of my heart................
THANK YOU!!!!

With love

Wendy xxxxxxxx

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 09:11 PM

Janie, wish I'd written that!

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 03:10 PM

so much so well put Janie, but without any redundant wordiness. pete

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 05:08 AM

My Dear Wendy, I've read & re-read Janie's words, so redolent with knowledge, wisdom & experience. I hope you find them comforting, thought-provoking, enabling. As Janie also said: "Wendy, don't ever call yourself a coward". I can't reinforce that strongly enough.

Thanks Gnu...& Pete, yes, my own work. Wishing you a speedy recovery. As you often hear folk in the UK say: "There's a lot of it about!"
                                                                  With Love,
                                                                                 Nigel.
                                                                                 xxxx

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Janie
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 01:23 AM

Haven't been posting, but have been reading, sending good thoughts, chuckling, commiserating.

Wendy, don't ever call yourself a coward. Families can be so complicated. You have so much on your plate and I don't think you appreciate the courage it takes to engender and actually personify the sense of responsibility - the values many of us have, but don't necessarily put into practice when the going gets tough. What you have taken on with respect to caring for your mother is certainly about love, but also about putting your values regarding family responsibility into action. And those values also come into play with how to deal with your brother. It really is true that sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. It may also be the reality that you need your energy to care for your mother and husband and an overt dust-up with your brother is simply too overwhelming to contemplate at present. Particularly if your experience with him is that nothing would likely get resolved even if you confront him. Not dumping on or judging your brother, mind you, just sayin....Sometimes we have to choose our battles. However tense or conflicted your relationship with your brother may be, especially with regard to your mother, it is a relationship and is important. Families. Everybody has one. Personalities. Everyone has one. All of us have family members who present challenges to us either as a family or as individuals. They are still family, and there are no generic blueprints. Love and light to you and your entire family, Wendy. Just trust that you are awesome and will find your own internal wisdom regarding how you process this. Ain't no right or wrong or weak or strong in these matters. Just figuring out what seems likely to work best among a universe of imperfect solutions.

What I probably can best offer that might help rather than that long paragraph above is a very heart-centered {{{{{{{{{{{{hug}}}}}}}}}}}}.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 03 Feb 14 - 08:48 PM

What gnu said!

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 03 Feb 14 - 01:30 PM

Nigel... what art!

Wendy... glad for your respite and I hope you can cope with the problemS with more ease as time goes by.

Pete... sorry to hear that and I hope you get better soon.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 03 Feb 14 - 01:13 PM

good one , nigel. your own composition?
I just been to doctor....chest infection. lot of it about at the moment. hope you get some better sleep and feel brighter, wendy.
blessings all   pete.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: billybob
Date: 03 Feb 14 - 07:35 AM

Morning,

it is a lovely sunny day here, my car is out of action so I cannot go off for a drive, but I can walk round the garden and pick snowdrops and enjoy the warmth of the sun.

Billy took me to Lowestoft yesterday to see our son and his family, I took lunch and cooked a huge roast beef dinner in his very small galley kitchen , such a laugh ,too small for more than one helper at a time! It was really lovely to see Reuben age 6, who is growing taller by the day. He is the most beautiful boy ( why do they get the long eyelashes? )

It was so good to have a day away from home. I am afraid since the " bugging" incident ( I chickened out on the confrontation option so far, coward that I am ) everytime my brother visits , I am on edge and have to check everywhere when he goes home just in case!! I am not usually a nervy person, but I am sleeping very badly and I am feeling very unwell. I am sure he knows I found the recorder but nothing has been said on either side.I am afraid I am sure the motive was the cost of the carers but I had an occupational Therapist visit last week to assess mother and she has said she needs 24 hour care as she is at risk of falls or harm due to the dementia, she also agrees that she is happy and content in our home and residential care would distress and confuse her.

Just very worried about Billy as I am sure he is just as upset as me but also worries about how it is affecting me. Thank goodness we have just a brilliant and strong marriage. He really is my rock!

Enough of negative thinking, off to the garden, snowdrops to pick and feel the son on my face.
Lovely poem Nigel, love to Linn ( did you ever get a little package that I put in someone else's secret Santa?)

Love to all the crew,Spring is coming

Wendy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 03 Feb 14 - 06:09 AM

A few lines to help us through the vagaries of Winter.


                                                            JANUARY

January days, January greys, long to feel the warmth of the sun.
As each day goes past, a little longer than the last,
My winter blues will soon be on the run.

January cold, January bold, standing at the head of the year.
For some a fearful time, closéd windows etched with rime,
Ashen faces bear a frozen tear.

January stays, January's ways are fickle, challenge all to raise a smile.
But February's here, means that Springtime's joy is near.
And January's gone it's yearly while.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 03 Feb 14 - 05:27 AM

I can't type for laughing!

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 02 Feb 14 - 03:27 PM

Thanks, Nigel. Haven't been back to the joke thread after I was told that joke was offensive* to those without a sense of humour. Their loss... I got a million of em. Most are far more offensive than that and far less offensive than many I have read on the joke threads.

* It wasn't offensive at all unless yer a cranky SOB in a real foul mood and ya just stubbed all yer toes on a coffee table in the middle of the night while half asleep and then jammed all yer fingers in a door before ya sat on the toilet while the seat was up and got cold water up yer ass. A pox of piles upon them!

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 02 Feb 14 - 02:23 PM

bluegrass is not my usual fare, gnu, but I played a couple and was impressed, and bought a smile to my face.
btw, I thought your contribution on the joke thread was funny...can of peas too..

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 02 Feb 14 - 08:14 AM

The Cleverleys have many more YT vids than those on their playlist/channel. Search the name and you'll find over twice as many. You'll not be disappointed.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 02 Feb 14 - 06:16 AM

Thanks Gnu & thanks again. Having listened to/watched all the music links you posted, it's the Bluegrass/Country (unsure of my genres here) versions that hit the spot every time for me. Great singing (adore the close harmony), virtuoso instrumental accompaniments & breaks & perfectly timed, beautifully understated humour...what a winning combination. This uniquely American Art Form makes me want to unlatch my guitar &/or mandolin case, grab whatever lies within & leap up onto the stage & hopefully find the right key PDQ!
       Spaw....agree, agree, & thrice agree...WTF, time to 'tear it up a little' & launch the liberty boat. I've just had one of the most entertaining Sunday mornings in years, apart from the footage of Bruno Mars in his underpants. That 'collided' somewhat with my porridge!
       Very proud of all of you, my Dear Friends. Very proud of what we have achieved & continue to achieve. This moment of levity in no way detracts from our voyage & the course we have set ourselves. Indeed, my feeling is that it enhances our ability to reach out & be reached.
            Take good care of yourselves,
                                                         With Love,
                                                                        Nigel
                                                                        xxxx

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 01 Feb 14 - 09:40 PM

I'll echo Sandra!

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: frogprince
Date: 01 Feb 14 - 09:37 PM

I've been in a quiet mode for whatever reason for a while, but I've still been following you all, and "pulling for" you all, daily; all calm on this part of the deck just now; just have to see whether it will take a few minutes with the snow blower to get us down the gangplank in the morning. : )

             Dean

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 01 Feb 14 - 08:47 PM

what Pete said

love from sandra

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 01 Feb 14 - 10:50 AM

sometimes, linn, it seems like everything is just too much when so much crashes down on you. hope things sort out for you and you get some rest    pete.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 31 Jan 14 - 11:04 PM

It's not that planning this memorial is a hardship...I have plenty of resources. It's just that...I don't know. I'm having trouble getting going on it. I've thought about it . It's not as if this memorial is goodbye...Tom will be with me forever. And, quite honestly, after it's accomplished, I'll be Abe to get on with converting a lot of cubic footage into small green pieces of paper with historical figures on them. I might also be able to just figuratively curl up in thebfetal position and suck my thumb.

I was very weepy today. Memories were crowding in on me. And that's not a bad thing... Uncle Orin dying was One. More. Thing. I'm just feeling over extended. I HAVE been at a gallop since at least October.

My sister sent the photographs taken at Mom's funeral by my mother's cousin's daughter. I look tired... I wonder why...

I'm so glad I went over to see Cesar at Tangibles (antique shop) today. I hadn't talked to him since right after Tom died. We had a .lovely talk. he's been such a good friend to Tom and I. Unfortunately he'll be in the DR for the memorial.

Anyway, glad I got to Maine to see him. Was a little late for the Press Room session, but I really needed that, too. Where would I be without music? It was a good session.

I'm going back to my book and opera on Pandora...

Linn

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 31 Jan 14 - 09:27 PM

Aw, Linn, I'm sorry about your uncle.

About Tom's memorial, I don't know what you are planning, but I hope everything falls into place more easily than you anticipate.

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 Jan 14 - 07:28 PM

Yeah gnu, but as you well know, sometimes you need to take a break and say, "What the fuck!"..........Thanks

3200 --- Lots of posts on the best thread Mudcat ever had!


Spaw

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 31 Jan 14 - 05:53 PM

I know this thread is about healing and caring and consoling. But... others have posted music so I wanna share sommat that has simply lifted my spirits in music and also comedically... these guys are a treasure and a comfort... a distraction when needed. If you enjoy their entertainment, I have posted well. If not, well, nothing venture...

Here is the original... I like it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6tuzHUuuk


Here is the Bluegrass version... I like it a lot... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS0P7w4YCDI

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 31 Jan 14 - 05:38 PM

AND... at the risk of thread drift, check these guys out.They do covers of everything from you name it to rap and they do it well. Their musical abilities and comedic cover parodies are, in my opinion, unequaled. If you want a break from life, here it is. This is FAR from the best of their many cuts and vids but it follows my previous post. I am gonna post my fav next post but this one demonstrates some of what they do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyuTsquH9Q&feature=fvwp&NR=1

Subject: RE: Jane's Rainbow: for all needing support & comfort
From: gnu
Date: 31 Jan 14 - 05:26 PM

Friday night. Let's just chill... relax... take a moment... don't do anything at all.