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USA Ancestry Records - help please

SussexCarole 28 Jan 12 - 11:42 AM
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Subject: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: SussexCarole
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 11:42 AM

I am in UK and trying to locate the record of my Great-Grandmother's birth. Unfortunately our Ancestry subscription to Ancestry.co.uk can't help because she was born either on a ship called the Indiana or in the state of Indiana in 1873 while her father was working as a groom taking horses across from UK to USA. It's puzzling that her birth was a few months before the maiden voyage of the SS Indiana...

Is there anyone with a USA Ancestry membership who could help me? I can offer searches on UK records in return.

Thank you    Carole


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: Will Fly
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 12:15 PM

Carole - just a thought: have you tried the International Genealogical Index (IGI) for the birth? You can check the birth/baptism entries for Indiana in 1873...


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: SussexCarole
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 12:32 PM

Hi Will

Thanks for the thought. As you say, IGI is record of baptisms - my GG was baptised in UK when they returned to Lincoln area. I have checked anyway just in case - nothing there.   Cheers!


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: Noreen
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 06:26 PM

AFAIK, the Library edition of Ancestry which may be freely available at your local public library (it is in Worcs and Lancs, I can't say for elsewhere), allows access to all US as well as UK records.


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: SussexCarole
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 06:35 PM

Thanks Noreen. I'll check that out in Swansea on Monday. I know that the archives/library have a subscription to Find My Past - it would be great if they have AFAIK as well.


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 11:14 PM

Check and see if there's a Family History Library branch of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormons or LDS) somewhere nearby. They have the best records around, including census and military records.


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 11:36 PM

And, they are very helpful for free unlike their Ancestry.com website.

They do ahve a free website, too, though, I think this is it: HERE. Or, this one is definitely connected to them with some free stuff listed CLICKETY. Here's the resources list for Indiana's resources.

If you'd like to send me the info by PM, I can look her up an ancestry in the USA, but I don't have a subscription any more, so all that would tell us is is they have a listing for her.

Here is an old thread which gets updated with new resources from time to time: New Genealogy Resources.

I love this kind of thing. Good luck!

katancestor-worshipper:-)


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: SussexCarole
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 07:18 AM

Oh dear Noreen, I'm still laughing at myself!!   AFAIK !! Just glad I didn't get as far as asking for that at the archives.


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: Noreen
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 07:36 AM

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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: SussexCarole
Date: 10 Feb 12 - 05:35 PM

Thanks for everyone's help.
Swansea's Archive Service did have the library (AFIK :) version of Ancestry but unfortunately there's no record of my great granny's birth on board ship or in Indiana. Tried a few other ideas too but no results.


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Feb 12 - 07:48 PM

I'm still looking, Carole. I have a photo to send to you that I found on ancestry.com here. Watch for an email this weekend.:-)

kat


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: mg
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 11:56 AM

I can look too, although I am far from expert, if you send me her particulars.

Anhd I would love it if sometime you could search for an Irish girl from County Kerry..Eliza Crean or Crehan, born around 1840, immigrated 1847 to 1850. Know nothing of her family. THought she somehow escaped alone but in her death notice it said she was from County Kerry and traveled with relatives. Later, a Bartholomew (Batt) Crehan shows up..I think he was born arouy Cnd 1830. His wife Hanora was definitely from County Kerry. He usually went by Crean but it is spelled every whcih way for both. They both ended up in Clermont Iowa and he was at least an occasional grave digger. Eliza married John Devery but first worked for someone who would be speaker of house for President McKinley I think...forget the name. many poeple who ended up in Clermont seemed to come from Dingle area..and many Creans (including the famous Arctic explore Tom ACrean) seem to have come from Anascoul and some from Blasket Islands so I would love to know more. mg


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: SussexCarole
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 12:38 PM

Thanks mg. I'll pm the details later

Andrew (Crane Driver) will dig into Eliza Crean's records for you - we'll keep you posted


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: mg
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 01:12 PM

That would be so great. We know nothing about her...or Batt for that matter..they always said she never saw anyone in her family again but all of a sudden Batt shows up with the same name and I think lives next to her..I suspect that we are related to Tom Crean...so many of the Creans were from Annascoul...and actually several families..Dulin comes to mind..ended up in Clermont..they tended to travel in clusters...

Maybe you can keep your eyes and ears open for leads..I am doing a very superficial and genealogically horrifying to experts collection of Irish who ended up, or perhaps just passed through, Fayette County Iowa...what is neat about iOWA is that if you get a child who is in the 1925 census you get the mother's maiden name..so I have a lot of male and female names coming from Ireland, many from County Kerry and so we can go back and look for matches. lI should just post a spreadsheet somewhere. What is interesting is that another town in the county, Eden, has people from an entirely different area..County Monaghan i BELIEve, and they are incredibly well documkented..Lots of Duffys, Brannons, Lynches..entirely different names than Clermont, which is not documented well at all..but..an archivist from a university is a descendent..actually of the Dulins.. and has some original papers etc..it is all getting interesting..she is going to take my rough and probably quite often inaccurate work and perhaps make something of at least some of it...

In Naselle, WA, USA..lots of FInnish families..so many named Wirkkala..they dominate the local paper..sports teams are half Wirkkalas etc..someone has done a big study of them...they are named after the town in Finland apparently...but this concept of doing a whole town is very interesting.

WHAT else is interesting is that you will see a genealogy with only one name...so they would take all the Patrick Murphys from everywhere they could find them...or maybe they woulod do Ingrid Nelsons..and just list them. That is fascinating to me...

Well, sorry to ramble on in your thread..let me know if I can look anyone up..but I am not very sophisticated at this...plow wide or plow deep and I tend to plow wide. mg


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: mg
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 03:04 PM


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 06:23 PM

Carole,

Just sent you an email with some links plus a photo I found at ancestry.com of Fanny and Eleanor "Connie" Pattinson. Hoep some of what I sent helps. Ancestry.com doesn't seem to have much, but I still have the free trial for a few more days.

kat


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: SussexCarole
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 06:49 PM

Hi Kat

Thank you - will reply by e mail. The piccy you sent is of my granny & great granny which we posted to Ancestry.co.uk (AJMk is Andrew). Isn't it lovely...we're so pleased that it reaches across the pond. xx


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 07:12 PM

Oh! Here I thought I might have found a new one! That's funny and lovely, yes. Thanks.

kat


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: SussexCarole
Date: 12 Feb 12 - 07:27 PM

We are so pleased that this thread has linked us up with so many other people who are interested in their family trees.

Andrew & I have both been researching our family trees for many, many years. I knew that my great, great grandfather was a drover(in UK & USA) I now know that his wife was a miller's daughter, and so was her mother, and her mother too. (Dorrington mill, Lincs). Wow! So I am descended from a miller's daughter!!!

We've also been researching the family tree of Michael Turner of Warnham, Sussex who was very much a part of my family. If anyone else is interested in our research please get in touch


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Feb 12 - 07:48 PM

It is so much fun, isn't it?

If you ever run across any Hudsons or Forsythes, esp. Hudson, I'd be interested. Can't trace back from upstate New York where my great-granddad was born, but they supposedly came from England.


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: kendall
Date: 13 Feb 12 - 07:38 PM

Does anyone know the name of Henry Hudson's ship without looking it up?
Oooops, wrong thread.


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Subject: RE: USA Ancestry Records - help please
From: EBarnacle
Date: 14 Feb 12 - 12:06 AM

Kendall, you know it's the Half Moon [probably due to splinters on the seat of ease].


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