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B.S.? Special feeling? floating?

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Subject: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 09:55 PM

Some years back (way back) we were playing at a friends parents 50th wedding aniversery. I was sitting in the back of a pickup truck and playing "June Apple" clawhammer style on the banjo. There were around five or six other people playing and the way it often happens with Old Timey songs we kept it going for around 20 minutes. Somewhere around half way through the song I had the most wonderful feeling come over me. It was sort of like the banjo just took off and was playing itself and I was just an observer. The feeling was extremely intense, better than anything I had experenced before.

The experience of floating seems to occur more frequently when playing in a group and everything is really clicking. Quite a few people share the feeling of floating with a song, however it seems this other more intense feeling seems to be extremely rare.

Am I ready for the "luney bin" on this one, or is there anyone else out there that has had a similar experience?

Cap't Bob


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: harpgirl
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 10:05 PM

...it sounds like "flow"...have to get out a reference book to give a didactic explanation...anyone got one handy?


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: j0_77
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 10:07 PM

Very common in fiddling or with fiddlers stuff, also in group playing, I can get it from the Guitar - but then I played that since I was a kid. Oddly I do not flat pick tunes that well - I sorta make a rhythm and mess with it. hmmmmmm

I envy your location, here the air is rarely suitable to Old Time Banjo, though I have played in Florida and it sounds/feels great there, again I donn't know why it should sound great in one place (same tune etc) and not in another.


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 10:29 PM

Cap't Bob, If you are ready for the "luney bin", I reckon that a great number of other musicians are ready for it as well.

I doesn't happen often for me but I find that when everything is really going well in a session that you can just sort of go into autopilot with your own playing and just feel caught up in the magic instead.

Also, very rarely, I can play with somebody that I have not played with before (or not played with for a long time) and an understanding seems to happen that makes me feel like I've known and been playing with them regularly for years.

Jon


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: SeanM
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 11:11 PM

Most definitely with you Cap'n. I get that a lot with my group... 'specially on the heavy music, or tight harmonies... it's always great. After the song, we usually descend for a moment, and it's that shared glance that says "YES!". Honestly, those are the moments I do this for.

The money is nice though...

M


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 11:37 PM

Moments like thatone, too often rare, are what I play and sing for. When you hear the fifth voice and you sing in a quartet. Or you and the other guitarist match note for note as if second guesses were a way of living.

Thats the wonder of it all.

Don


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Escamillo
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 02:09 AM

My main musical activity is choral (masterworks with Symphonic orchestras, and some a cappella songs) and have experienced that magic moments many times. But there is another moment of wonder, another which is much more rare: it is when you have been feeling that magic in the air for minutes, and then the song ends, and then comes an absolute silence. No applauses, nobody moves, lots of faces stare at you in quiet comunion. After some seconds which seem to last for hours, the first applauses break the fine cristal. Then you have gained another year of life. If it seems that music has driven me a little insane, well, it is true. :) Andrés Magré


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 02:14 AM

If this weren't such a wonderful topic, the jokes here are just phenomenally abundant!!! However..........

Gawd that's a feeling isn't it? You did a good job describing it too Cap'n!!! I think it happens in other activities too....things though that you feel the "passion" for..................For me, sailing hits that level too. Bob and Plimsole.....does sailing hit you that way at times?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 08:01 AM

years ago, I heard Tom Paley describing learning the fretless banjo, and trying to describe the feeling of just sitting in a rocking chair on the porch and playing a tune over & over until it was no longer a matter of thinking about his fingers, and feeling totally into the music.....I guess that is similar


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: WyoWoman
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 09:00 AM

Escamillo, et al, I've had that feeling several times and it truly is shared magic, when the music lingers out over the audience in silence and the finally someone "breaks the crystal" (lovely imagery, simply lovely) with applause, then the applause washes over you in waves. SOme people think musicians /performers do what they do for the applause and that's an egotistical thing. (And I'm sure that's so for some.) But for me, it's the sense of having carried other people with me, or having gone with someone else, to a place that transcends our ordinary abode. WHERE we go, I don't know, but we certainly leave Everyday and go Beyond.

Mmmm scrumptious.

WW


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 11:01 AM

I certainly appreciate all of the comments on this feelings you get associated with playing music. It's really difficult to explain all of this to someone who has never experienced it themselves. "The magic", "the fine crystal", "the fifth voice in a quartet", or the feeling of timelessness when playing with others, are all wonderful ways to describe this feeling. I'm sure it would be a much better world if more people could get together to make music and share these feelings.

Spaw ~~~~ I do get a similar feeling while sailing. One feeling takes place when there is a gentle breeze and seems to be the result of the sounds of the rigging, feeling the boat going through the water. Sometimes I accompany nature with a tune on the guitar or pennywhistle. The other happens when there is a good strong breeze and the boat has a bone in her teeth ~~ surfing down the waves. Don't know why but sometimes I just let out a scream Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaahhhhhhhhhhh! It seems to be catching because if there is anyone else sailing with me they usually end up doing the same thing..Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeahhhhhhh! Come to think of it I've also heard people (including myself) let out a bit of a scream while playing Old Timey music....

Thanks again ~~ Cap't Bob


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 11:41 AM

I used to get that amazing totally detatched feeling of floating when I was very young. I could barely reach the top of his desk, but Charlie McCarthy (his real name) and Frank, another fellow who worked at the building where I grew up, would tell me stories of their lives and that feeling would overtake me. It was a warm, floating and wonderful feeling that seemed almost addictive. I often went down to their work places to try to "make it happen"---but it would never happen that way. You couldn't make it occur.

Strangely, I don't ever remember feeling that on stage. I always was a bit too tense--too intense--for it to occur while I was concerned about doing the song WELL.

I do know about what Harp called FLOW. It happened for me all the time. It still happens for me even though I'm no longer able to play. It is a concept first given voice by Mihaly Csilszentmihalyi (pronounced Mee-hi Chick-sent-meehi-yee) and put forth in his book "FLOW---THE PSYCHOLOGY OF OPTIMAL EXPERIENCE"---published by Harper Perrenial--a division of Harper Collins. The author is a professor at the University of Chicago. There are many amazing observations and insights regarding our human behavior here.

If you've seen the film "LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL" you know exactly what the book's main premice is. Csiksz. was wondering how some people got through the experience of imprisonment, in a concentration camp (and even in a bad job, marriage or a terribly dysfunctional family) with fewer problems. Some even did it with seeming ease. One fellow even, as I said in another thread a few years ago, after being a prisoner of war and then released, said his main wish was to play golf. When he did get around to playing golf, he did a very good job of it--even better than he'd ever done before. To keep himself sane in an insane situation, he played 18 or more holes of golf in his head every day of his captivity. Every lay was vividly seen by him--every contour of the land and the course. Every club he used was picked specifically for the shot he was facing. Even sand traps and water hazards. He credits that "flow experience" he created in his mind as the grounding mechanism that allowed him to endure the terrible years of torture, deprivation and terror. Others who couldn't thusly occupy themselves often perished from a lack of a certain kind of mental fortitude---the ability to, when given lemons, make lemonade. In many ways, I personally know that the computer---connecting with friends on the web---has given a purpose to some down times. As with most FLOW experiences, time just about disappears. You might be pickin' on stage for 3 hours and it will seem like 20 minutes.

Another personal obsevation: I use FLOW to get to sleep often. When the thoughts are racing all around my head and keeping me from getting needed sleep, I just start a long ballad in my mind, and before I finish, I'm asleep. Other than being pissed off 'cause I failed to finish the song, it usually works. When it doesen't work it's from am inability on my part to stay focused that particular evening.

Abby, thanks for reminding me of the concept of flow. (I'll be answering your private letter real soon.) Csiksz.'s book is not a self-help book in the sense that other books are. It's a scholarly discussion by a well-thought of man of a basic concept that we might've overlooked. It shines a beacon on something I already knew on some level--only because it's pretty much accurate to see tings in this light. The instructive aspect of this book, for me, is a treatice on on how to attain flow. It's a way to maximise our personal experiences.

Does it fit this thread? I think so! Different but definitely connected concepts. FLOW can be worked toward. The "floating feeling" may happen as a RESULT of flow. But maybe it's a separate aspect -- like yin is an aspect of yang and vise-versa.

Just one guy's gut feeling...

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Davey
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 11:46 AM

Wonderful thread, and I've experienced the group 'oneness' a couple of times, but it also brought back a moment of pure tranquility I experienced about 12 years ago. I was driving around the coastline near St. Johns Newfoundland, and I stopped to enjoy the sight and sound of the waves on a rocky beach in a secluded cove. As I was preparing to leave, I noticed a worn path leading up over a cliffside meadow, so I followed it for a couple hundred yards to where it ran along the edge of a cliff, with the coastline and the beach now a hundred feet below.
The moment was compelling, and I took out a harmonica (always travel with an instrument), sat with my feet over the edge, and started to play. I almost played myself into a trance with the music flowing, the sound of the surf, the wind in my hair, and the solitude.. A half hour passed before I was aware of anything else, and with regret (and a strong feeling of inner peace) I went back to the car and headed back into the 'other' world.


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 12:17 PM

Music has the capacity to touch the innermost reaches of the soul and give flight to the imagination.


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Chet W.
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 11:14 PM

This is most definitely not BS. Once you've had the experience it becomes the point of the whole thing. What is even more special is when you find someone (rarely more than one) that you can feel that with every time. There's not much more intimate than making that kind of music with someone that you really care deeply about. I advise, for the long term, don't depend on being in a "band"; they never last. Find one person that could be your best friend anyway and the music will come. And don't try to analyze it too much.

Fortunately, Chet


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: WyoWoman
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 11:18 PM

Spaw and Capt.Bob -- When I'm sailing the only thing I'm thinking is, "Oh, dear God, please don't let me hurl in front of all these nice people who like to sail..."

ww


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 01:04 AM

Chet, I was somewhat apprehensive about even doing this thread in the first place. Most of the people that I've tried to talk to about this experience don't quite understand what it's all about. It is rather difficult to describe the feeling although there have been some very good discriptions right here in this thread. I usually don't even talk about it, however, I got to thinking that people here on Mudcat, if anywhere, would be most likely to have had similar experiences. I guess I just stuck in the B.S. to cover myself just in case the thread took off in some other direction.

ww ~~ Sailing is definitely not for everyone although I seem to find a lot of similarities between sailing and music. Don't ask me to explain ..... it seems to be that feeling thing. I'm going to try to locate a copy of that book that Harpgirl and Art mentioned just to see if I can't get a better handle on whatever it is that I'm talking about.

Cap't Bob


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 02:53 AM

Athletes (Michael Jordan) call it, "Being in the groove."

Ellie Wiezell (or whatever his name is) calls it "MESSIANIC MOMENTS". He meant (I think) touching the divine for a moment--or longer--getting a glimpse into transcendance.

It happened for me once while driving---I-80---going east through the Illinois corn fields--turning brown like they are now. Everything took on a glow--an incandescence. I felt very light---that fuzzy feeling. At that moment I knew that what everyone calls religion is the same thing. I knew that the power of the universe--is what we are ALL trying to comprehend and explain and we get bogged down in trying to concretize the metaphors that cannot be grasped intellectually or grasped at like snowflakes in the wind except to be seen, for an instant, as having distinct patterns---and then they melt---just like my glowing landscape and world lost that mesmerizing aura after some several minutes. It was me who was lucky enough to've been enlightened in that "messianic moment".

And it felt like when I was listening to Charlie and Frank tell their stories.

Art


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 04:02 AM

Sometimes it happens when I'm playing with others--three weeks or so ago it happened when the Once Born guitarists and I were playing a bluesy version of "Just a Closer Walk with Thee," without even thinking about it passing the lead from Charlie's vocals to Josh's guitar to my harmonica to Charlie's guitar, playing soft rhythm behind each other--we went on for maybe ten minutes and when we finished just sat there in silence until one of the other members of the group finally said something that both acknowledged the spell and closed it.

This afternoon I found the tune in G--I had always played it it C--and picked it over and over, discovering ornaments I'd never found before: It's much easier in G--and it fits my voice well, and I started singing "The Lover's Return," which uses the same tune. This was just me in my backyard, and I might still be there in the zone if one of my dogs hadn't started demanding I play with him, instead.

Being in the zone in music or in sports, it seems to me, involves not concentrating harder but slipping into a state of exalted concentration where what you're doing becomes clearer: a hitter in baseball starts seeing the ball better--it looks larger and is easier to hit; a basketball player sees a larger basket or a moving teammate, or gets a half-step earlier jump for a rebound or a block.

--seed


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 08:27 AM

I am loving this thread and hoping that others will share some of their experiences or feelings. Here is one that sticks in my mind.

I met a friend who I had not played with for about 5 years in a local folk club. She normaly played with her boyfriend but he wasn't there and she asked me if I would play a couple of tunes with her and I agreed.

I normally hate playing in front of people "on stage" (I am very much a session person these days. What I tend to do if I go to a local folk club is play if they are short of floor singers but otherwise pass - unless I can get a bit of a jam going at some point) and tend to be very tense as I don't do it very often.

When it came to our turn, the first set we played was the Lark In The Morning with some other jig that I can't remember. We started off very shakily but things quickly improved and we developed that kind of understanding that I mentioned in my previous post.

By the time we did our second set, Farewell To Ireland, to me it felt like the audience simply wasn't there. There was just Annie and myself. We had trust in each others playing (felt like one would rescue the other if a bum note was played), I was going for ornaments that I would not have normaly attempted (and ones that I'd never thought of before) and she was doing the same on her concertina.

It is only a small club - say about 100 people but the applause was amazing when we had finished - people standing up shouting for more etc. but we just looked at one another, smiled and walked off - we both knew the eperience we had shared and didn't want to spoil it.

Jon


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 02:30 PM

Arthur Schopenhauer once said.......Music is the answer to the mystery of life; it is the most profound of all the arts; it expresses the deepest thoughts of life and being; a simple language which nonetheless cannot be translated.


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: WyoWoman
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 04:02 PM

BSeed-- "exalted concentration" -- mmmmm. Love that. I guess what happens for me is that I finally reach a moment when I stop thinking and just am doing. (Attention Sixties Generation: We're about to have a Ram Dass moment.) It is the experience of being here now, and I think in all the examples listed it is the common element, just the doing of the thing instead of all the mental maneuvering we humans seem to bring to just about everything we do.

Art, Wyoming is full of opportunities for moments such as you described. It's three hours (or more) between towns, with plenty of amazing scenery on the other side of the windshield. And one of the reasons I've gotten back into music so much lately is that my job requires some travel and I have ample time to just sit, drive, listen and look. It's truly a religious experience for me, and I'm so often filled with deep gratitude for the beauty before me and around me.

(And Capt.Bob, intellectually I like sailing. It looks like something I OUGHT to like. But I have SUCH motion sickness. A real problem for me, which I'm right in the face of today because I'm flying to Memphis Monday and am facing the dilemma of drugging myself with dramamine to the point that I'm afraid I"ll pass out and drool on my nice business suit or spending the entire flight with my head in the ter-let, which I have done distressingly often. I have a sailor's heart and a landlubber's inner ear.)

WW


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: bobby's girl
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 05:09 PM

Earlier this year at Whitby Festival I was involved in a performance of "Picking Sooty Blackberries" which was a celebration of the life of Keith Marsden, who wrote many of the songs performed by Cockersdale. The band had been doing the presentation themselves, but decided that at Whitby which was one of Keith's favourite places, they would add a choir. Graham Pirt, Val Marsden and John O'Hagan took workshops all week, teaching us the harmonies, and one evening we performed with them. That was one of my most majical moments, though I shed a few tears, as Keith had been a friend. My husband who watched the performance also found it absolutely wonderful, and moving.


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 05:33 PM

Wyo Woman, your so on the mark about 'just doing and not thinking'. I have that feeling when canoeing in solitude. I'd love to feel it in the music but my struggles of being so new at the banjo leave me far from 'just doing' Little Neo


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: wildlone
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 06:42 PM

While taking part in an re-enactment at Battle Abbey I went into the undercroft and played my bowed psaltery.
There was little light and it was very peaceful I just switched off and played what came into my head,I was finally disturbed by some visitors who said they had "been listening to the music for ages ".
I still do not know where the time went or even what I was playing,but I felt so at peace.WL.


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 07:03 PM

I usually call it "transcendence", a melding with the Cosmic, or whatever you want to call it. I've often felt it with music, either alone or with others, playing or listening. Over the twenty years we've been together, Rog and I have "melded" several times, esp. when out driving through the wondrous open landscape of Wyoming, as Wyo Woman wrote about. It might be a breathtaking scene or a piece of music we are listening to, but the most intersting thing is that it never requires words on our part. Suddenly we both just reach out to one another and hold hands, or smile at each other, and at that moment, it feels as if we are ONE with the each other and the Universe; the whole of Creation is within us and we are within it. No divisions of any kind exist in that moment.

From an article my brother, the classical composer, wrote calling on the classical world to be aware of the effects of music, called, The Restoration of Music:

...humans are dual beings, spiritual-psychic and physical. An aura of high vibratory rate surrounds and permeates each one......music (written through Inspired Selection© i.e. divine guidance, or even guidance from one's heart, with good intentions) arouses an exaltation and uplifting vibration in the auric and physical centers of man/woman. This is sometimes called the "I got a chill up my spine" feeling. All music either darkens or brightens the aura, expressing all moods and emotions.

and, from Music of the Fourth World & Symphony No. 2, Novus Ordo Seclorum (written LONG before the paranoid right started talking about a "new world order")*BG*:

I have emphasized that the universe is a vast scale or keyboard of vibrations and that each being, however small, has not to sing, a part to play....(in a) oneness with the Creator and Creation.

He has much more, on mathematics and vibratory rates, Pythagoras, ancient Egyptian sages, and ancient Chinese concepts on this. The important point is they all recognised the power of music to transform and transcend.

When he wrote those articles, we were both dismayed at the direction classical music had taken, with serialism and atonal compositions, which we felt, lost the spiritual connection one can have with music.

I think it is significant to note that trad music has never lost that connection, so it is not surprising, to me, to read of these wonderful experiences you've all had.

Wonderful thread.

katlaughing


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 07:51 PM

Errata: should read has a note to sing, a part to play....(in a) oneness with the Creator and Creation.

sorry.....kat


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 08:45 PM

It's interesting how many of us have had similar wonderful experiences, yet how many of us feel hesitant to share them, fearing it may sound strange or unexplainable. I am reminded of this thread where much of the same was discussed.
Allison


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 08:51 PM

Dang!!! There I go AGAIN!!?? When will I get the hang of this??? Try again: your 6th sense


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: wildlone
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 09:11 PM

Many thanks Animaterra. There was a girl Playing Accordian at the club the other night and you could tell she was transported. When she finished a particularly sad tune it was so quiet and still for about 5 seconds before the applause,as if to do so was sacrilege.
Now That's Music!


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Chet W.
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 09:55 PM

I guess the question that begs is, is it better than sex. I'll go out on a limb and say, sometimes, definitely. The question would have to be more specific.

Don't make too much fun of this one, please.

With open heart, Chet


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 12:36 AM

I don't think it is fair to compare them, Chet. One can find transcendence with a certain partner, when everything just "clicks", much in the same way that we've all described the feeling of "clicking" when singing or playing.

One can also have that feeling with a partner without ever being physical. Rather than compare or be in a situation of "either/or", I woudl say, from my experience, that the feeling we are all talking about can happen in other situations, with music or without. The contaxt here, of course, has much more of an emphasis on music than might be found elsewhere.

Now, having pontificated too much, I have to say, I want both! At the same time!**BIG GRIN**

katblushingsorta


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Chet W.
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 01:00 AM

OK, you're right.

Chet


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 01:11 AM

No, No No, Chet! I am never "right", always a lefty!**BG** Hey, there's gotta be more than one opinion on this! let's hear 'em!

kat


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 01:07 PM

As John Prine said in his uniqe song, "Donald And Lydia"----"...but mostly they made love from 10 miles away!"

Alas--it happens here at Mudcat on occasion I suspect. ;-)

Love (any way you can),

Art


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: Penny S.
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 01:26 PM

Wildlone, I really needed to hear that. Last time (some years ago) I went to Battle, I felt something really unpleasant in that undercroft, so I'm glad to hear that you had a different experience. You will have left something of that behind.

Penny


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Subject: RE: B.S.? Special feeling? floating?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 09:08 PM

There is a transendence of the mind and body when ever we hit the right stride. When all things move in a proper balance. It happens to all people in diferent ways. I feel it most often when playing and singing but I've felt it at other times too.

Catspaw may understand this one. Surfing an open boat like a Flyin' Scott or an E Scow ahead of a following sea and knowing the danger behind can't equal the thrill ahead .

A perfect cast to a rising fish just in the shadow of a rock so the water explodes in diamonds as it strikes the air.

A piece of clear pine and the sing of a good hand saw. The perfect edge on a Marples Chisel bitting into some quartersawn Walnut.

A good days work done well.

All things "float" for the person with that "love" in them.

Don


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