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Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife

GUEST,kaneact 02 Feb 12 - 09:41 PM
Phil Cooper 02 Feb 12 - 11:23 PM
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mg 03 Feb 12 - 01:50 AM
GUEST,John from "Elsie`s Band" 03 Feb 12 - 06:02 AM
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Subject: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: GUEST,kaneact
Date: 02 Feb 12 - 09:41 PM

I am doing a show about connecting with someone after they've died and am interested in any/all songs about this in folk/blues songs. Not really interested in heaven, and a connection to God/lord, etc. but with Staying connected to a person after they've passed. Cheers, kaneact


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 02 Feb 12 - 11:23 PM

Off the top of my head check out Robin Williamson's song "Fare Thee Well Sweet Mally." Also "When I Go" by Dave Carter (and most anything else he recorded with his partner, Tracy Grammer). "Lay the Old Man Down" by Chris Smither. "Motion Song" by Susan Urban. There's a lot of songs on the topic around. Join and send me a personal message and I can get you more ideas. Or, I'm sure other folks will chime in here.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Reinhard
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 12:12 AM

"The Unquiet Grave" is about letting go: A woman laments long over the grave of her sweetheart, till he speaks from the grave and reproaches her for disturbing his rest.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 12:57 AM

Dylan's Death Is Not the End might work for you. The British group Cockersdale did a great recording of the song.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: mg
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 01:50 AM

And when I die there will be one child born etc..don't know the name of it.

Of course, Fiddler's Green. For humorous...Barmaids?? of Valhalla


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: GUEST,John from "Elsie`s Band"
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 06:02 AM

"And when I die,
Don`t bury me at all,
Just pickle my bones,
In alcohol.
Put a bottle of booze,
At my head and my feet,
And then I know,
My bones will keep"

TTFN,
John


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: nickp
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 07:08 AM

Richard Thompson's Egyptian ditty - My Daddy is a Mummy


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 07:15 AM

kaneact-

Could you tell us more about your show? What kind of people are represented in it?

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: GUEST,John Foxen
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 02:40 PM

Grandad by Jake Thackray is a prime example of life -- and a very good life -- after death.
Words can be found at the following link but its best to hear him singing it.
http://www.jakethackray.com/songs/the-lyrics-and-guitar-tabs/65-grandad.html


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 02:50 PM

There's that urban-legendy song which was a hit back in the 50s, about a guy who takes a mysterious girl out on a date or to a dance somewhere, and she gets cold so he loans her his jacket, which she wears home. The next day when he describes this beautiful girl to some friends they say, Oh that's so-and-so (Laura?), and then tell him that she'd been tragically killed in (?) a car crash. I forget the exact storyline, but he finds out where she's buried, goes to visit the grave, and sure enough, there's her name on a newly-carved tombstone. With his jacket draped over it. (What was that song called?)

That the sort of thing you mean?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 02:52 PM

And of course there's She Moved Through The Fair


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Bainbo
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 03:16 PM

Bat Out Of Hell - seriously.


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Subject: ADD: The Dundee Ghost (Matt McGinn)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 03:52 PM

Masterpiece by Matt McGinn
Jim Carroll

THE DUNDEE GHOST
(Matt McGinn)

Now a deid men seldom walks they very seldom talk
It's no very often you see them runnin aroon
But I am a refugee frae a graveyard in Dundee
And I've come tae haunt Some hooses in Glesca toon (repeat)

Noo the reason I arose was tae get masel some clothes
Fur it really gets hell o' a cold below the grun (ground)
But then I whispered tae ma sel' I think I might as well
Hang aroon fur a while and have some fun

A man put out his light on a cold and wintery night
I showed him one o' ma ees (eyes) and a slapped his heid
He said Oh and I said Boo He said who the hell are you
A said don't be feared am only a man that's deid

Noo the fella knelt and prayed and this is what he said
Why in the name o' God have you picked on me
So I pulled away his rug and slapped him wan on the lug
The reason fur that I'll very soon let you see

When he brought the polis in I battered him wan on the chin
The polis turned aroon and he blamed ma fren (friend)
He marched him tae the jail, he'll be in there quite a while
But I'll see naboby steals his single end (a wee house)

The polis thought him daft and a lot o' people laughed
When the fella said a ghost wis in his hoose
But whit the fella said wis true and a might be visiting you
Fur don't forget that I'm still on the lose


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: justice
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 06:24 PM

Ed Miller's song "When I Die" might be useful for you.

Ed's website.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: GUEST,kaneact
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 09:16 PM

Thank you all for your suggestions, I'll check them all out!
Charley- My show is just in the fetal stage but it will be about the relationship I have had with my husband in life and since his passing, but I was looking for some historical perspective as well. I will be exploring songs from all different cultures and thought Mudcat folks could help me with the 'folk' library. Again, thanks to all for your suggestions. -Kaneact Particularly fond of older Celtic and English ballads.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: mg
Date: 03 Feb 12 - 10:47 PM

Last Halloween in France...when the soldier ghosts come back to see their lovers. mg


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 08:52 AM

Kaneact, try to find The Holland Handkerchief (which I got from Packie Byrne). I have no time at the moment to even Google to see if the words are online (it's not in the DT), and can't remember where the copy that Packie wrote out for me is. I'll try to look later, but in the meantime if anyone finds it, please post.

Packie had a lovely air for it too, which has now gone hazy in my mind. I'm seeing him soon so I'll see if I can get him to sing it for me, and try to note it down if he does (he doesn't really sing anymore). It's a beautiful modal minor-key melody and I THINK Packie said he gave it to Martin Carthy (or someone? Nic Jones?) so maybe Martin/Nic has recorded it. Writing this off the top of my head in a rush so I haven't done any online searching. Worth pursuing, though -


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 09:17 AM

'Ere 'tis Bonnie
The Holland Handkerchief, one of the most popular ballads in County Clare, from Mount Callan Garland
Jim Carroll

The Holland Handkerchief (Child 272)
From the singing of Tom Lenihan

1 There did a squire live in this town,
And a squire of a high renown,
He had a daughter, a beauty bright,
And the name he called her was his 'heart's delight'.

2 All dukes and princes to court her came,
But none of them could her favour gain,
Til! there did a young man of low degree
And above them all she fancied he.

3 When her father came of this to know,
That she loved this young man so, and so
One hundred miles he sent her away
To detain her of her wedding day.

4 One night as she was for her bed bound
And taking off her lovely gowns,
She heard a voice of a deadly sound
Saying: 'Loosen those bonds, love, by which we're bound.'

5 Her father's horse she right well did know
And her mother's mantle she knew also.
She dressed herself from top to toe
With her lover waiting on her to go.

6 She rode behind her own true love;
They rode far faster than any wind,
Till after an hour or a little more He cried:
'My darling, my head is sore.'

7 A holland handkerchief she then took out
And tied with it his head about.
She kissed his lips and these words did say:
'My love, you're colder than the very clay!'

8 And when she came to her father's gate
'Alight, alight love,' this young man said.
'Alight, alight love, and go to bed
And your father's horse I'll see rubbed and fed.'

9 But when she came to her father's hall
'Who's there? Who's there?' her father called.
"Tis I, dear father, you sent for me,
By such a messenger,' naming he.

10 Her father, knowing this man [was] nine months dead,
He tore the grey hair down off his head.
He wrung his hands and his heart was sore
And this young man's darling cried more and more.

11 It was early in the morning, at the dawn of day,
They went to the grave where this young man lay;
And although this young man was nine months dead
There was a holland handkerchief tied 'round his head!

12 Woe to parents, whom I say still,
Will prevent young people from doing their will;
For once their love and their vows they give
You can't reclaim them while they live.

Child 272. IFC TM 81/A/4. August 19th 1972. Tom could not recall from whom he learned this old ballad. It uses an air often associated with 'The Croppy Boy', ('Early, Early All In The Spring', Laws J 14) or 'McCaffery'.
The term 'holland' refers to a coarse linen, or linen and cotton mixture, and was so called because it used to be sent to Holland to be bleached. This revenant ballad which Child calls 'The Suffolk Miracle', is very popular in Irish tradition although it has seldom been published from Irish sources. 'The Holland Handkerchief texts favoured by traditional singers are almost without exception far superior, in their simplicity, to Child's single overblown literary version.
For a study of this ballad and tale-type (AT 365) which is found in the repertoires of singers and storytellers throughout Europe, see Rionach ui Ogain and Anne O'Connor, 'Spor ar an gCois is gan Chois Ann ' in Bealoideas: the Journal of the Folklore of Ireland Society, vol. 51 (Dublin, 1983), 126-144.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Bert
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 11:33 AM

I don't know if Joe Hill would qualify.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 12:50 PM

This one is more contemporary:

Words & music by Kate Wolf ©

I'm Amazed to Find that You're Still on My Mind

G----------------C---G
After all is said and done,
----------------C-------------------G
A few things lost, a few things won,
--------------------C--------G------D
I'd say I've had a full and happy life;
-------------G-------C--G
But in the quiet of the night,
-------C--------------G
When I turn out the light,
----------------C----------G-----------D------G
I'm amazed to find that you're still on my mind.

Chorus:

G
I'm amazed to find,
---------------------------C------------G-------D
I'm amazed to find that you're still on my mind;
-------G
It will hit me without warning,
C------------G
Early in the morning,
-----------------C---------G-----------D------G
I'm amazed to find that you're still on my mind.

I could be talking with my friends,
Or out walking when day ends,
Or just doing all the things that fill my time;
But at the closing of the day,
When my troubles fade away,
I'm amazed to find that you're still on my mind. (CHO)

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: GUEST,Larry Saidman
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 01:03 PM

One of my favorites is Last Ditch Protocol by Elyse Weinberg....it mixes afterlife with necrophilia.

It's about a woman in her grave calling upon her lover to seduce her.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Arkie
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 04:26 PM

The House Carpenter or Daemon Lover might fit in with your show premise.

The Holland Handkerchief has been recorded by Waterson & Carthy.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 05:14 PM

Justice - that "Ed Miller" song is another Matt McGinn Song AKA " The Roling Hills of the Borders".
Here sung by the McCalmans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i65ylXVt-E

And another good one might be; "Somewhere Along the Road" - written by Rick Kemp of Steeleye Span, sung here by Maddy Prior.
See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVblehWofVk


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: GUEST,kaneact
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 06:23 PM

Jim carroll and bonnie shaljean and Charley noble, thank you all!!! -kaneact


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: GUEST,kaneact
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 06:26 PM

And all the other suggestions as well, this site is too amazing... -K


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 06:56 PM

my song about St Peter and John Dillinger



http://www.bigalwhittle.co.uk/id32.html


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Amos
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 11:49 PM

Don't forget the unfortunate Miss Bailey, while you're courting ghosts...


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 12:47 AM

Forever and ever my heart will be true
You know that I'll never lose my dreams about you
I will always remember for the rest of my life
When you were beside me and I was your wife

There are so many memories from all through the years
There were hours of laughter for each moment of tears
I refuse to believe, dear, that it's all in the past
Your presence around me is all that I ask

Forever and ever my heart will be true
You know that I'll never lose my dreams about you
I will always remember for the rest of my life
When you were beside me and I was your wife


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Joe_F
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 10:23 PM

I wish you were here


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: looking for songs about the afterlife
From: Deckman
Date: 09 Feb 12 - 12:03 AM

You might find this a little weird, I certainly did, but I swear every word is true. Some years ago, perhaps twenty or so, I attended the memorial service for the late Earl Robinson. (google him). The service was held in a fellowship hall in Seattle.

I'd met him first when I was 16, in 1953, and he had a serious impact in my musical life. As he approached death, he became quite spiritual. His "service" was something to behold:

His sons conducted the service, and at the conclusion of the event, a screen was lowered in front of the chapel, and he "spoke" to us from the "beyond."

Being the consumate musician that he was, he also included music from the afterworld.

I'm not going to take the time, but I suspect that if you do a serious search, you'll find references to that video, as well as the music from beyond.

bob(deckman)nelson


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