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Creating A Voice

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tonyteach1 20 Feb 12 - 01:47 PM
Deckman 20 Feb 12 - 03:00 PM
Suegorgeous 20 Feb 12 - 09:13 PM
BobKnight 20 Feb 12 - 09:26 PM
Deckman 21 Feb 12 - 12:19 AM
mg 21 Feb 12 - 02:44 AM
BobKnight 21 Feb 12 - 06:09 AM
GUEST,MikeMandaville 21 Feb 12 - 06:15 AM
BobKnight 21 Feb 12 - 08:55 AM
tonyteach1 21 Feb 12 - 05:55 PM
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Subject: Creating A Voice
From: tonyteach1
Date: 20 Feb 12 - 01:47 PM

I have a vocal pupil 44 year old female who is a member of a very famous folk family who has never sung before May last year. I have been giving her lessons which basically consist of improving her use of breath - how to attack notes and how to open the throat so as to develop the voice fully. Also to provide encouragement and motivation as her family has several very famous singers and she lacks confidence

We sing folk and gospel songs to develop the sound and the result as of the last lesson was a very powerful soprano with a two octave range. No mike needed in fact I think if she stands too close it damages the thing

I have NOT trained her for operatic singing as she does not want to sing classical music or opera She does sing jazz standards and some music hall She sings in a pure powerful manner which suits shanties and gospel.
She does not want a career but if she did I think in a year or so she would have one of the best voices on the folk circuit.

All I have done is release the sound within her I, too was surprised at the sheer power and
range and there is more to come
IMO there is no such thing as a folk voice


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Subject: RE: Creating A Voice
From: Deckman
Date: 20 Feb 12 - 03:00 PM

The older I get, and I'm doing just that every day, I well remembering my early vocal training from some very good teachers. A few months ago, I had the pleasure of working with a young lady who had never had any serious vocal training. I worked her three hours a day for one week ... she was from far away and stayed with us for that week.

Within just two days she was making sounds she'd never heard come from inside her before. By the fourth day, she wouldn't shut up! It more fun than wheels to watch the amazing change in her.

My advice to everyone ... GET PROFFESIONAL TRAINING! bob(deckman)nelson


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Subject: RE: Creating A Voice
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 20 Feb 12 - 09:13 PM

You helped release the sound within her - she did it.


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Subject: RE: Creating A Voice
From: BobKnight
Date: 20 Feb 12 - 09:26 PM

Hello there Tonyteach1. As I come from a reasonably well known "Folk Family" myself, it would be interesting to know which part of the country you refer to. It would be nice if it was yet another cousin entering the fray. I'm in Aberdeen by the way.


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Subject: RE: Creating A Voice
From: Deckman
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 12:19 AM

Aberdeen Washington (USA) I assume?


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Subject: RE: Creating A Voice
From: mg
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 02:44 AM

Is there another one? mg


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Subject: RE: Creating A Voice
From: BobKnight
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 06:09 AM

Only the original in Scotland - well that's not quite true. There are Aberdeen's all over the world. I could find out how many there are if you'd like. One in North Dakota that I know off, and one in Hong Kong, but many more.


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Subject: RE: Creating A Voice
From: GUEST,MikeMandaville
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 06:15 AM

Tony, I am glad that your student is doing well. What do you mean when you say that in your opinion there is no such thing as a folk voice?


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Subject: RE: Creating A Voice
From: BobKnight
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 08:55 AM

There are thirty four Aberdeen's throughout the world including the original here in the North East of Scotland. Mostly in the USA - one in SOUTH Dakota not north - I got that wrong. The original American Aberdeen is in New Jersey, established 1658, but after that in no particular order is Maryland, Mississippi, North Carolina, Ohio, California, Arkansas, Florida, Montana, Idaho, West Virgina, Kentucky, Indiana, Texas, Georgia, Massachusetts and Pennsylvania. There are seven in Canada, a couple in AUstralia, etc, etc. :)


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Subject: RE: Creating A Voice
From: tonyteach1
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 05:55 PM

What I mean that there is no such thing as a folk voice is. If you free the sound up - use proper diaphragm support - open the throat and find the proper range to sing in you have a good singing instrument. I have done this for three voices this year who have added notes got higher in pitch and sound better. This is vocal technique not vocal style which refers to how you sing and is a separate subject. I am also referring to the somewhat doctrinaire teachings of people who do not know about vocal production and saddle unfortunates with a style which may suit the owner but not the pupil BECAUSE NO ACCOUNT HAS BEEN TAKEN OF HE PUPILS NEEDS AND CAPABILITIES


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Subject: RE: Creating A Voice
From: GUEST,Mike Mandaville
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 06:17 PM

Tony, okay, I though that maybe you had just been listening to Woody Guthrie or something. Just kidding.


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Subject: RE: Creating A Voice
From: Stringsinger
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 01:12 PM

Woody sang like Woody talked. Imitators in folk circles make a serious error.

You don't create a voice, you release it. It's yours and belongs to no one else.


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