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Subject: Old Hymns?
From: T.R.
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 11:37 PM

I am looking for old hymns that I've heard on the radio but haven't been able to tape. "He turned the water into wine" is a favorite of mine, but I can't quite get the words rig


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: jhi@tm.net.my
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 12:12 AM

Iam looking for the hymn "Thereis no disappointment in Jesus "


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: Dale Rose
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 01:07 AM

I've heard He Turned The Water Into Wine by the Dutch duo, A. G. and Kate. I have it on their CD which is available from them at 5121 PD Ryen, Holland. Tel. 0161-223305. At the moment I am swamped with things I should be doing, so cannot get at a transcription until the weekend at least. I think they said they learned it from Johnny Cash. (Yes, on that one, too. It is a Johnny Cash composition.)

Re the second request, how about No Disappointment In Heaven? I know that one ~~ it's an oldie. I know I have it by Mac and Bob, and likely others as well.

And a suggestion for both of you ~~ try to put something in the thread title which tells more about what you are asking for.


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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: HE TURNED THE WATER INTO WINE
From: Banjer
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 07:02 AM

Courtesy of the Gospel Music Archive:




HE TURNED THE WATER INTO WINE

(D) He turned the (G) water into (D) wine,
He turned the (G) water into (D) wine.
In the little Canaan (D7) town,
The (G7) word went all (D) around, that
He turned the (G) water into (D) wine.

Well, He fed the hungry multitude.
He fed the hungry multitude.
With a little bit of fish and bread,
They say everyone was fed.
He fed the hungry multitude.

(F) (C) He (F) walked upon the (Bb) sea of Gali(F)lee.
(C) He (F) walked upon the (Bb) sea of Gali(F)lee.
He shouted far and wide,
He (Bb7) calmed the raging tide.
And (F) walked upon the (Bb) sea of Gali(F)lee.

He healed the leper and the lame.
He healed the leper and the lame.
He said, "Go and tell no man,"
But they shouted it through the land, that
He healed the leper and the lame.


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: Banjer
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 07:05 AM

Almost late for work, no time for clicky thingies, here is the URL for Gospel Music Archive...enjoy!

http://subnet.virtual-pc.com/da567664/index.html


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: bill\sables
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 07:07 AM

Try the Cyber Hymnal at http://tch.simplenet.com/#tunes


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: Dale Rose
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 09:52 AM

Guess I WAS in a hurry and/or fog last night/morning! I failed to check Cyber Hymnal and did not think about the Gospel Music Archive at all! So IF There's No Disappointment in Heaven is the song you are looking for, here it is at Cyber Hymnal. Thanks to banjer and bill\sables for reminding me how easy it is. (Or maybe I should say how easy it CAN be at times!)


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: eka_kezia@hotmail.com
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 11:39 PM

I am looking for a song lyrics. This song always sings every new years eve. It's begin with: "Lets all the quantance be forgot and.................. Can u help me plz?


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From:
Date: 12 Oct 99 - 12:35 AM

* try these - click here *


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: Banjer
Date: 12 Oct 99 - 06:02 AM

Aha, a question that has been burning inside for a long time.....What is the meaning of the phrase, "Auld Lang Syne"? From the context I have always assumed it to mean something like "Old Days Gone By" but never was really sure...help anyone?


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: Knitpick
Date: 12 Oct 99 - 03:09 PM

There is also a Bob Franke "hymn" called "He Turned the Water into Wine" -- Chorus:

He turned the water into wine, the wine of love, We are the branch and he the vine, as we grow our love tranfsorms, becomes the wine of love -- he turned the water into wine--

The verses cover the marriage at Canan, and something else -- don't know if it's been recorded. I got the words from Bob Franke, and I know Helen Schneyer sings it. I can look them up fully if that's what you're after.

Knitpick


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: sophocleese
Date: 12 Oct 99 - 03:41 PM

Banjer, the Shorter Oxford Dictionary defines auld lang syne as 'old long since', the days of long ago. Does that help?


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: Banjer
Date: 12 Oct 99 - 07:32 PM

Yes, Sophocleese, that puts a meaning to the words I have wondered about, and make the rest of the lyrics make sense. Thanks!!


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: Mían
Date: 12 Oct 99 - 08:00 PM

This is one of my favorites since I was a child and heard my nanny sing it.

In the Garden


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Subject: Through All the World Below
From: GUEST,Cathy Morgan
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 05:10 PM

I used to knwo a song "Through all the world below God is seen all around/Through hills and valleys low there he's found/the growing of the corn..." does this sound familiar to you?

Thank you,
Cathy Morgan


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Subject: ADD: Through All the World Below (Captain Kidd)
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 05:36 PM

The "Through all the world below God is seen all around/Through hills and valleys low there he's found/the growing of the corn..." hymn is often found in shape-note hymnbooks as either "Captain Kidd" or "Green Meadows."

Here's a link to the version in Southern Harmony, with clickable MIDI:http://www.ccel.org/s/southern_harmony/sharm/sharm/hymn/t=Captain+Kidd.html


1. Through all the world below,
   God is seen all around;
   Search hills and valleys through,
   There he's found.
   The growing of the corn,
   The lily and the thorn,
   The pleasant and forlorn,
   All declare God is there,
   In the meadows drest in green,
   There he's seen.

2. See springs of water rise,
   Fountains flow, rivers run;
   The mist below the skies
   Hides the sun;
   Then down the rain doth pour
   The ocean it doth roar,
   And dash agains the shore,
   All to praise, in their lays,
   That God that ne'er declines
   His designs.

3. The sun, to my surprise,
   Speaks of God as he flies:
   The comets in their blaze
   Give him praise;
   The shining of the stars
   The moon as it appears,
   His sacred name declares;
   See them shine, all divine!
   The shades in silence prove
   God's above.

4. Then let my station be
   Here on earth, as I see
   The sacred One in Three
   All agree;
   Through all the world is made,
   The forest and the glade;
   Nor let me be afraid,
   Though I dwell on the hill
   Since nature's works declare
   God is there.


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: GUEST,Kathy
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 11:01 PM

I am trying to find this song for a friend. He says the title is "IF I could live over".He says he thinks it was in a paperback song book from the early sixties. this is what he remembers of the song,


If I could live over the days of the past
I'd live them for Jesus the first to the last
I'd heed the old Bible that points me the way
and kneel by my bedside and fervently pray

The words she first taught me were simple and sweet
the days of my childhood I still can repeat

He thinks there is three verses

Thank you


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 10 Feb 12 - 09:42 PM

A "curiosity," so far as I've encountered before, is a "Methodist Hymnal" with a 1939 ©, with a rubber stamp inside identifying it as from the "Haller Lake Methodist Church" with the unusual(?) feature that none of the hymns have titles.

There are several kinds of "Index of ..." sorts of navigation aids, including an "Index of First Lines of Hymns," but searching for a particular hymn would appear to present some "difficulties."

The hymns within the book are arranged by "Topic" but within a topic there's little to distinguish one from the next. Some of the words/lyrics appear to be "unconventional" relative to the better known versions of what may be essentially the same hymns, although I haven't gone through more than a few to try to place them as "known" hymns. (The lyrics may turn out to be quite ordinary if/when I get around to a closer look.)

As scanned into my "reference archive" the book is about 430 MB, so it's not particularly portable. The music scores are cleanly printed, and the binding of the book was "conventional" although not of particularly high quality, and the rather low grade of the paper presented some problems in scanning. The lyrics are at rather small point size, possibly presenting some problems for many people in the congregation; but many "oldsters" in churches of the kind where I would expect something of the kind to be used would be unlikely to read music or lyrics, relying more on memory than on reading(?).

The question is whether there is some theological principle to explain the absence of hymn titles, and if so, is it peculiar to some particular (Methodist?) sect having other interesting and/or distinctive characteristics.

John


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: Wesley S
Date: 10 Feb 12 - 10:11 PM

I found a Haller Lake UMC in the Seattle area. Could that be the one? I'll bet you could call their music director and ask them.


Haller Lake UMC


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 03:56 AM

I haven't searched for Haller Lake, and don't really recall where the hymnal came from. It is possible that we picked it up at a book shop in the Seattle area, although the majority of acquisitions of that kind came from Oklahoma/Texas antique shops.

With a 1939 copyright date, it's likely that even if the church has a stable style, they've probably replaced their hymnals a couple of times.

The church you found is a member of the Pacific Northwest Conference of the United Methodist Church, and others in that conference, with more current hymnals, didn't exhibit the same "no name" character in their books - quite probably published by an "official Conference publisher" - so at least by the time we had a chance to look at some of those hymnals the more typical hymn names were clearly given.

A publisher (or at least a printer) is named in the front matter of the book, and a brief look didn't find them still in business.

I'm not really into researching church music, but that particular feature of this hymnal suggested there might be a tradition that I, and perhaps others, had not been aware of. If it's not known by someone here who wants to inform the rest of us, I probably won't pursue the matter.

John


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: GUEST,Inuk1799
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 09:51 PM

If I could live over the days of the past
I'd live them for Jesus the first to the last


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: GUEST,highlandman at work
Date: 10 Apr 13 - 10:27 AM

Funny this old thread should pop up just when we had a similar conversation at church. Our Anglican church uses the 1940 Episcopal Hymnal which also does not have "titles" for the hymns.
I haven't been able to find any good reason, other than to consider that the original texts mostly were untitled anyway. Also, quite a few are snipped from much longer poems by writers like Charles Wesley and Isaac Watts -- the snippets would not have had individual titles. Others are translations of ancient Latin texts that never had titles either.
It may also relate to the ancient church practice of referring to Psalm texts by their first phrases (as in, 'dominus regit me') rather than by their numbers.
Anybody have any more concrete reasons?
-Glenn


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Dec 16 - 08:31 PM

Here are the words to "If I could live over" that someone wanted.
If I could live over the days that are past,
I'd live them for Jesus, the first to the last.
I'd turn from the evil and live for the right
And take all the sunshine he giveth for night.
The past is a picture transgressions have scarred,
Of sowing and reaping the life that is hard.
How bitter the dregs of the cup of my sin,
If only I'd listened and let Jesus in.

If I could live over the days that are gone,
I'd listen to mother and flee from the wrong.
I'd heed the old Bible that points me the way,
and kneel by my bedside and fervently pray.
The words she first taught me were simple and sweet,
the prayers of my childhood I still can repeat.
But now I have spurned them and sin took its toll,
And left me a pauper in body and soul.

If I could live over the life that I've lost,
How different the outcome, how different the cost.
How lighter the burden, how brighter the day,
How less of the wages of sin I would pay.
Though I can't live over the things that are gone,
I know there is pardon for all of my wrong.
And peace I will find in the life he has planned
In the beautiful land of beginning again.


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Subject: Song
From: GUEST,Laura
Date: 09 Sep 17 - 11:15 AM

I have been looking for a song - the lyrics begin like this:
    I heard about how Jesus turned the water into wine
    How He walked along the sea of Galilee
    How He rose one Sunday morning just to save us from our sins
    And I'm so happy just to know that I am free
    Do you believe? Yes, I believe that Jesus watches over me
    Do you have faith in God? Yes, I do
    And are you sure that Jesus loved you so He died on Calvary
    Yes, I'm sure, I have faith and I believe.


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: topical tom
Date: 09 Sep 17 - 04:42 PM

I always loved this one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37UiNO0BncU


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Subject: RE: Old Hymns?
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 09 Sep 17 - 06:05 PM

Nice tune and lyrics sensitively performed tom cheers


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