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BS: Puke Wines

Beer 28 Feb 12 - 11:01 PM
number 6 28 Feb 12 - 11:09 PM
Beer 28 Feb 12 - 11:21 PM
number 6 28 Feb 12 - 11:27 PM
number 6 28 Feb 12 - 11:31 PM
Ebbie 29 Feb 12 - 01:52 AM
Bob the Postman 29 Feb 12 - 02:10 AM
saulgoldie 29 Feb 12 - 05:01 AM
Silas 29 Feb 12 - 05:11 AM
Steve Shaw 29 Feb 12 - 05:18 AM
gnomad 29 Feb 12 - 05:49 AM
Silas 29 Feb 12 - 06:16 AM
Beer 29 Feb 12 - 07:30 AM
TheSnail 29 Feb 12 - 07:55 AM
bobad 29 Feb 12 - 08:01 AM
kendall 29 Feb 12 - 08:48 AM
Rapparee 29 Feb 12 - 09:04 AM
Beer 29 Feb 12 - 09:32 AM
EBarnacle 29 Feb 12 - 12:48 PM
Rapparee 29 Feb 12 - 01:32 PM
gnu 29 Feb 12 - 01:51 PM
Beer 29 Feb 12 - 02:14 PM
gnu 29 Feb 12 - 02:49 PM
Sandy Mc Lean 29 Feb 12 - 03:06 PM
Rapparee 29 Feb 12 - 03:06 PM
GUEST,Eliza 29 Feb 12 - 04:21 PM
Bill D 29 Feb 12 - 04:59 PM
Beer 29 Feb 12 - 05:02 PM
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Bill D 29 Feb 12 - 05:31 PM
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Subject: BS: Puke Wines
From: Beer
Date: 28 Feb 12 - 11:01 PM

There is a thread that is started about Scotch and it is very interesting.
What I would like to hear is stories about when you first started out drinking wine. Was it Dry? Was it bubbly? or was it sweet?
A few of the shit brands that I went through were Matuse(sp.), 999, Loganberry. They were all great back in the 60ties but there must be more out there.
Adrien


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: number 6
Date: 28 Feb 12 - 11:09 PM

Szekszárd ... a dry red Hungarian wine .... the cheapest outside of the cheap sherries and ports and the crap domestic wines available at the time .... wan't a puke charger at all, actually was quite good.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Beer
Date: 28 Feb 12 - 11:21 PM

Is it still available?


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: number 6
Date: 28 Feb 12 - 11:27 PM

Yeah it is beer .... it appeared on the shelves her in the NBLiquor stores about 2 years ago ... now that Hungary isn't a communist country the price has shot up to around $14 ... outrageous ... what are poor students supposed to drink these days .... geeeesh.

Thanks Beer .... This thread has drifted my mind back through to so many years ago and somehow this bit from Bob Dylan's song "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues" is going through my head ....

"I started out on burgundy
But soon hit the harder stuff.
Everybody said they'd stand behind me
When the game got rough;
But the joke was on me
There was nobody even there to call my bluff.
I'm going back to New York City;
I do believe I've had enough."

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: number 6
Date: 28 Feb 12 - 11:31 PM

I should also add .... Szekszárd was a great accompaniment with some Acapulco Gold ... ;-)

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 01:52 AM

When I was 19, a 'friend' brought me some Mogen David. Ugh. It was years before I ever touched wine again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 02:10 AM

Vancouver, 1972. Me and Lee used to jam with some help from a 26er of Four Aces sherry—the only 26er in the LCB store on Main that cost less than a dollar—99 cents, to be precise. After a while they replaced Four Aces with Old Niagara. Same "sherry", same price, but with a label aimed at the little old lady demographic instead of the skid row crowd.

And I recall a bargain Hungarian claret that tasted like they crushed the grapes by putting them in a trough and driving a surplus Red Army jeep back and forth through them.

B. C.'s Calona Wines had the jack series—Double Jack, which was 80% apple juice and 20% ethanol. If you got so sick on Double Jack that you couldn't touch it anymore you could always try Berry Jack or Cherry Jack. They all came in a 40 ounce jug so you could swig the poison hillbilly style.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: saulgoldie
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 05:01 AM

Probly Boone's Farm. I heard (but never confirmed) that they put formaldehyde in it. Yeesh! But good for "quantity drinking." And, of course, puking.

Saul


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Silas
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 05:11 AM

Hirondelle?

Jeeze - did we actually drink that stuff?


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 05:18 AM

I was ill with a severe cold the night before I got married in 1976. I got ratted on (among other beverages) a litre bottle of sweet white Hirondelle. Somewhere there's a photo of me brandishing the bottle wearing little except my wedding tie.

The first bottle of wine I ever bought was in Italy in 1968 when I was 17, on a school trip. It cost the English equivalent of 1s 9d and was called Ocone. I don't think my stomach's recovered yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: gnomad
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 05:49 AM

Blue Nun, Black Tower, generic 'Liebfraumilch', V.P., 'British Wine', there were some truly awful things about, probably still are if you go looking.

The nastiest I ever tasted was the Bulgarian white wine I got in a hotel duty free shop back in '79. I was hotel-bound due to an injury and went to get a pack of cards to play patience, and a half-bottle of brandy. As the shop only took hard currency I offered my smallest note, a £5. My change was a tube of Primula cheese, some Dutch Guilders, and three bottles of supposed wine which I reckon started life in the battery of a malfunctioning tractor. It was dirt cheap, but still a bad bargain.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Silas
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 06:16 AM

If you like reisling then Blue Nun and Black Tower are OK, more a victim of their sucess than crap product. In fact, most german wines are pretty good even supermarket own brand stuffis reasonably OK, its just not everyones taste these days. Don't compare with 'proper' quality stuff like a trockenbeerenauslese, but you pays your money and you takes your choice.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Beer
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 07:30 AM

Forgot about Morgen David, Ebbie, terrible stuff. Remember buying a bottle of it from a bootlegger. Buddy and I were about 14/15. To make it last we would mix it with a bottle of coke. Oh my God!
Never tried those Bob the Postman. They do sound horrific.
ad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: TheSnail
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 07:55 AM

Back in my student days, the usual party wine was called Carafino. It came in a carafe shaped bottle to make it look interesting and was CHEAP. It came to be known as Parafino.

(UK parafin = USA kerosene)


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: bobad
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 08:01 AM

Like you Beer, I started out on those cheap Portuguese rosés, Mateus and Faisca - I can remember passing a bottle over a bathroom stall to a buddy as we were getting primed for a school dance.

On trips to my buddy's in Vermont we had a chance to sample America's finest rot gut - our brands of choice were Thunderbird, Old Duke, Ripple, Wild Irish Rose and others which names I have thankfully forgotten.

Fortunately I was blessed with a cast iron stomach in those days and don't remember having ever puked from imbibing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: kendall
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 08:48 AM

Wild Irish Rose has to be the bottom of the pit.
I used to drink Lambrusco but red wine gives me migraines.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 09:04 AM

Wild Irish Rose, any flavor of Ripple, Boone's Farm, Black Bear (a mix of beer and sweet wine)...and because of one particular incident, Chateauneuf Du Pape in the twisted bottle. Mad Dog 20/20. Molly Pitcher Cannon Number 12 (I believe that was the number).

And I still have a bottle of La Bonne Merde, the last bottle my brother ever made. I've been afraid to open it; I understand that it's so dry that if you open in it creates a black hole and sucks you into some other time-space place.

Barenheier's Port, the bane of my childhood.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Beer
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 09:32 AM

"La Bonne Merde!!". Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Love it.
Ad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: EBarnacle
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 12:48 PM

I am amazed that no one has mentioned Scuppernong.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 01:32 PM

I have a bottle of Mother's Scuppernong upstairs in my wine closet. That's a type of grape, not a brand name.

Of course, I could also mention almost any wine from upstate New York back in the '60s.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: gnu
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 01:51 PM

"La Bonne Merde"... heheheheee!

BtP... same here. It was Apple Jack and Double Jack in the Hillbilly jugs, in the woods in a mid-winter deep freeze with a bunch of other teenagers. The only one that didn't puke was the one that didn't drink any of it.

I like a dry white wine although I seldom touch the stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Beer
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 02:14 PM

Back in the 60's-70's there were house parties everywhere. You brought your own booze and guitars if you played and drank till the wee hours. I recall how we loved to get about three couples for an evening supper. My buddy and i would fill the punch bowl with Loganberry Wine and set it at the middle of the table. We probably would fill it twice then get into the beer. Mornings came way to early especelly if you had to work.
ad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: gnu
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 02:49 PM

Best wine I EVER tasted was made by a Newf buddy of mine. Gooseberry. He was experimenting with mixing the gooseberry wine with a strawberry wine. When I tried straight gooseberry wine, I told him I would buy stock in the company. Never had better wine before nor since.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 03:06 PM

Adrien,
There is nothing wrong with those brands that you first mention! However atmosphere is important, and they are best consumed behind a dancehall with the brown paper bag still covering the bottle. These days wine consumers want it in a glass and some even want to sniff the cork (totally decadent)!
And Kendall, Wild Irish Rose was also the title of my favourite George Jones song. He lies there holding his "Chateau Margaux 1995" just does not cut it!
That being said I'm a rum and beer man.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 03:06 PM

There was an Italian wine, called something like "Rialto" (at least I seem to remember it began with a "R"). It kinda lost favor with people when it was discovered that the company was adding antifreeze -- ethylene glycol -- as a sweetener or something.

Riunite! It was Riunite!


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 04:21 PM

Chateau Pis-de-Chat and Vin Tres Ordinaire! I used to love very sweet white wines, but as I aged I preferred robust red ones, (eg Roussillon region). Does anyone remember drinking Sangria in Spain when people first started going there in the 1960's? ("Abroad") I much, much prefer ale, but don't drink at all now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 04:59 PM

Zeller Schwarze Katz - was a regular item in the 60s....little plastic black cat hanging on the neck.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Beer
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 05:02 PM

Yes, yes, Bill. I remember that one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Jeri
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 05:25 PM

Mateus, Sangria: whoever made the stuff we used to fill rock concert wineskins with, Boonesfarm strawberry (blechhh), then MD 20/20, and Wild Irish Rose (let's just not mention Night Train, Ripple, and Thunderird). The last 5 taste similar, IIRC. I'm just not sure if that's going down or going the other way...


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 05:31 PM

Right ..Mateus...

(I avoided Ripple and Thunderbird & such... saw too many 'effects' on others)


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: gnu
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 06:27 PM

Sandy... minds me of the old joke, "What kinda wind goes best with a brown paper bag?"


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: MarkS
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 06:36 PM

Wild Irish Rose, any flavor of Ripple, Boone's Farm.

Gawd - the memories.

Of course you had to add a package of Kool Aid to the bottle, and agitate violently.

It was called "Shakemup."


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Beer
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 06:40 PM

Yes Sandy, behind the dancehall where we boys thought we were men.
ad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: MarkS
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 06:47 PM

Nowadays I prefer the better German whites. While Silas is quite right about the Trockenbeerenauslese, you do not need to go to that expense. Any "Auslese" from the Mosel region will be great.

Oh - should mention the great late harvest whites now coming from the Finger Lakes region of New York State, and the great Eisweins coming from Ontario from the winerys along the QEW between Buffalo and Toronto.

Always liked Canadian beer, but the wines are now getting great as well.   Merci Canada!


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 07:33 PM

I, myself, personally, have attended a wine tasting at a vineyard in England, in Cambridgeshire. The wines weren't all that bad, either.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 08:10 PM

I remember drinking pretty much everything that's been mentioned so far, plus:

Bali Hai - Sorta like Hawaiian Punch mixed with grain alcohol and vomit.

Zapple - A Boone's Farm apple clone. It's the one I heard was purported to contain formaldehyde, not Boone's Farm.

Annie Green Springs - Another Boone's Farm apple clone. Or maybe it's the one that was supposed to contain formaldehyde.

Andre' Cold Duck - Like Ripple, but in a real wine bottle.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Joe_F
Date: 29 Feb 12 - 08:21 PM

In my childhood, Manischewitz was drinkable. In my old age, by divine intervention, it becomes drinkable again at Passover -- and hard-boiled eggs become edible.

The rest of the year, my standard wine is Sutter Home -- only $6 a bottle, and they put a tab on the foil seal, so you don't need a tool to remove it. Respect for the customer!


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: GUEST,Seayaker
Date: 01 Mar 12 - 05:41 AM

Years ago I bought a bottle of red in Tesco's called "Odessa Steps" as it was about £2 cheaper than anything else on the shelf.
It came from somewhere in the old Soviet Union so far north that they couldn't possibly grow grapes properly and the taste reflected that. Even adding lots of sugar couldn't make it drinkable and it went down the sink.
The buyer should have been sent to the Gulag.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 01 Mar 12 - 08:21 AM

Concorde sparkling wine it was very cheap very sweet and nasty at the time just over £1 a bottle when it was first introduced, that was in Tesco in the 70's. I didn't know very much about wines at all back then it reminded me of drinking vinegar it puzzled me how wine experts could possibly detect hints of blackberry etc. to me it was like something to strip varnish with, so something as cheap as Concorde seemed like a good idea at the time. Blue Nun, Black Tower or Liebfraumilch were the next safe bet especially when trying to impress other 18 year olds. Now I prefer beer and fruit ciders.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Beer
Date: 01 Mar 12 - 08:58 AM

Seayaker, maybe it was from the Gulag.
ad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Mar 12 - 10:03 AM

A wine was good when it had only hints of turpentine, raw sewage, and battery acid. If it more than hinted at something like chloroform or rotten fish it was considered "great". If you could tell the time of day it was made and it wasn't more than a week old you were a wine connasewer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: EBarnacle
Date: 01 Mar 12 - 10:38 AM

Then, there is the classic Chateau Thames Embankment so beloved by Rumpole.

Of course I know that Scuppernong is a grape, not a brand. They all suck.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 01 Mar 12 - 12:51 PM

Who was that frightful wine buff lady, Jilly Goolies or something? The one who used to enthuse "I'm getting... plum...and...chocolate and... woody tones.." etc. Pretentious twit!


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 01 Mar 12 - 02:07 PM

And a delicate hint of fusel oil...............


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: GUEST,Seayaker
Date: 01 Mar 12 - 05:32 PM

Oddessa Steps could be described as "Vinegar with a delicate hint of Fennings Fever Cure"


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Joe_F
Date: 01 Mar 12 - 08:31 PM

The winter will be short, the summer long,
The autumn amber-hued, sunny and hot,
Tasting of cider and of scuppernong --
All seasons sweet, but autumn best of all....
-- Elinor Wylie


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Greg B
Date: 02 Mar 12 - 08:36 AM

I'm astonished that nobody has mentioned Cribari yet.

Good ol' Papa Cribari...


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Mar 12 - 08:47 AM

We drink mainly Argentine and Chilean red which mostly originates from Argentina anyway it seems! Any white wine is guaranteed to give me a headache - and the convention of serving it chilled is just plain daft.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: deepdoc1
Date: 02 Mar 12 - 10:10 AM

Seems I recall Paisano Red from the mid-60's. 2 or 3 bucks a large jug (gallon?). Sneaking out to drink that stuff seemed to be better than doing homework.... In the Navy I recall Cello Lambrusco as being soda pop with a kick.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Mar 12 - 10:10 AM

Yikes, warm white wine? :-O


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