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Origins: Three grains of corn

mg 13 Mar 12 - 01:50 AM
mg 13 Mar 12 - 02:01 AM
mg 13 Mar 12 - 02:07 AM
maeve 13 Mar 12 - 10:49 AM
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GUEST,mg` 13 Mar 12 - 01:11 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 25 Oct 13 - 01:50 PM
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Subject: Origins: Three grains of corn
From: mg
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 01:50 AM

This song has always intrigued me although I have never heard it sung...and I think I am finding out that it is a true story and seems to be based on an inquest in County Mayo on the death of a boy named Edward MacHale. I had a newspaper article and I will have to research for it, but also it is mentioned in a book I am reading on Kindle...the boy asks for three grains of corn to keep him alive through the night and the mother thinks he is delirious but a neighbor searches his pockets after he has died and finds three grains of corn. Anyone know anything else about this? And can anyone make out a tune..I have heard little beeps on a computer midi but if anyone sings it would you be able to make an MP3 and send it to me? Now I will go and try to refind my references...my kindle is in my car so I don't think I am going out again but it seems to be published by Project Gutenberg as well. A very informative book. mg


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Subject: RE: Origins: Three grains of corn
From: mg
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 02:01 AM

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~harringtonfamilies/1847.htm
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~harringtonfamilies/1847.htm

This is interesting..not the newspaper article I was looking for, but an obituary pge that lists the same deaths listed in the book by O'Rourke I think...

So what I think happened is this story, which seems to be based on coronor's inquests in County Mayo, was printed in newspapers in US, and someone..the author..I forget her name...Amelia Edwards?? must have seen it or heard about it, composed the poem, published it in 1848, and someone put a tune to it..a fairly tuneless tune I must say...if someone can think of another tune it could be put to..usually I don't like doing that but might have to be done...mg


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Subject: RE: Origins: Three grains of corn
From: mg
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 02:07 AM

http://www.gramotey.com/?page=27&open_file=411195200149.38

Google and Kindle and Gootenberg free book by O'Roarke


http://www.gramotey.com/?page=27&open_file=411195200149.38


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Subject: RE: Origins: Three grains of corn
From: maeve
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 10:49 AM

mg- you'll ind your New York Times newspaper article by googling the following:

Edward MacHale "three grains of corn"


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Subject: RE: Origins: Three grains of corn
From: maeve
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 10:53 AM

mg- You'll find your New York Times newspaper article by googling the following:

Edward MacHale "three grains of corn"

Only 2 hits will emerge; this thread on the 'Cat, and the PDF link to the article.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Three grains of corn
From: GUEST,mg`
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 01:11 PM

Thanks..this is great..it is also a folkloric scoop I think. The song is dismissed most likely as Irish maudlin, music hall, probably Plastic Paddy comes in there somewhere..but it seems to be based on an inquest, which I am sure we can find the original of somewhere.

Also, you will see the name as M'Hale. mg


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Subject: RE: Origins: Three grains of corn
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 25 Oct 13 - 01:50 PM

The DT list has the complete text of the poem, "Give Me Three Grains of Corn, Mother," written by Amanda M. Edmond (1824-1862). It is contained in The World's Best Poetry, vol. iii, Sorrow and Consolation (1904).
Music was added by O. R. Gross in 1848 (Boston)
It is classed as a parlor song by Nicholas E. Tawa, 1980, Sweet Songs for Gentle Americans, The Parlor Song in America, 1790-1860.

A close variant was collected by Leach I Newfoundland.
www.youtube.com has a version, with incorrect author cited ("A. B. Edwards")


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