BS: NFL 2012/13

Subject: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 18 Mar 12 - 02:09 PM

In many ways the season is being determined right now.

Detroit and San Francisco look like strong contenders with young teams and sterling, developing defenses.

Will Suh mature? If so the Lions could have a defensive line comparable to the Cowboys and Steelers of the 70's when excellent D-line play is the only way to slow down today's passing game.

With the veteran teams, Pats, Steelers, Packers, and Saints be able to acquire help for their anemic defenses?

Will the Eagles play up to their talent this year?

Is Robert Griffin what the Doctor ordered for the Skins?

Will Cam Newton mature as a leader while the Panthers are built around him?

Which team will be Peyton's place?

What comments do y'all have about the draft and free agent season?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 18 Mar 12 - 02:12 PM

Haven't been following it while football and rugby and curling are on the go. But... "Will Suh mature?" No.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 18 Mar 12 - 02:30 PM

That would be bad for Detroit. But I think he will. He is a smart kid. He knows what is at stake and every effort is being made to educate him.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 18 Mar 12 - 02:40 PM

Hard to educate a reaction involving a short temper combined with a violent tendancy. I am not saying it can NOT be done but that is some deep shit. IMO he's got a serious character flaw because he just "reacts".

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 19 Mar 12 - 04:52 PM

nning to Denver. T-Bo to ?.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 19 Mar 12 - 06:17 PM

???

Manning to Denver. T-Bo to ?.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 19 Mar 12 - 06:33 PM

Jacksonville, maybe.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: GUEST,j-boy
Date: 19 Mar 12 - 06:55 PM

There's been some speculation he could end up in New England.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 19 Mar 12 - 08:22 PM

The Pat's? Hmmm... that is interesting. On various levels.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Mar 12 - 08:27 PM

LOL!!!   Watch out Brady!!!!!

Thanks j-boy that is the biggest laugh I have had all week!

I do respect him as athlete and his character is admirable but.....

J'ville is the place for Tebow. He can sell Jags jerseys to the Gator faithful.

The man needs to become a tight end or full back and open the field with the threat of occasional throwing. The Pats defense ate him alive. He is not ready for good NFL defenses.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 19 Mar 12 - 08:33 PM

I agree, JtS. Flash in the pan big story to sell tickets. Unless he matures a lot, he'll never be more. BUT... where is the best place for him to mature? I know it's not HIS call but I think I know where he would LIKE to go in order to have a (possibly) better future as a QB. It ain't really all that big a laugh if you look at it from T-Bo's angle, no?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Mar 12 - 09:09 PM

here is an interesting take nfl.com on Tebow

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Mar 12 - 09:15 PM

Tebow will always be a star. Maybe not in football. If he was old enough, the GOP would probably nominate him for President.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 09:47 AM

Tebow is a Jet.

I guess the ownership there wants to hear even more complaining about Sanchez.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 02:01 PM

If you are a pro, you do NOT shit on yer mates. Any player who shits on a mate should be benched.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 02:54 PM

April 26. Dunno if I'll follow it much this year.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 17 Aug 12 - 07:23 PM

GO LIONS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Aug 12 - 09:22 PM

First college game of the season- Hawai'i vs. USC.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Aug 12 - 09:26 PM

Well, it's all Obama's fault. Or maybe Romney's. The debt....

Sorry, this is in the BS section and it's not about politics! So...I think the Cubs will take it all.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 17 Aug 12 - 09:29 PM

The Cubs suck and you know it.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 18 Aug 12 - 12:42 PM

The Toronto Blue Jays are out of it.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 18 Aug 12 - 01:17 PM

I don't care much for baseball. Now, if they played on ice and snow...

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 18 Aug 12 - 03:58 PM

Curling, anyone?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 18 Aug 12 - 04:27 PM

Curling is one helluva lot more exciting and far more difficult than baseball.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Aug 12 - 09:17 PM

Why don't they play baseball on skates on the ice? It would be...interesting.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 19 Aug 12 - 03:59 PM

Skates? NO! Socked feet. Separate the men from the boys, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 11:48 AM

Wednesday?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: J-boy
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:26 PM

Yes.So as not to conflict with the first night of the DNC.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:32 PM

I thought that was last night? I must not be up on politics OR football.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 10:49 AM

Oh... right... sorry.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: J-boy
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 06:33 PM

Cowboys or Giants?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 06:36 PM

I gotta cheer for NY becuase I gotta cheer for NY. It's too early to say otherwise.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 05 Sep 12 - 02:16 PM

ARE YOU READY?

I gotta go with the Giants at home. I figure Bradshaw is gonna get a few carries tonight (not that Jacobs won't, of course) and if the Giants secondary doesn't get burned by Romo Bob's yer uncle.

I read that Dallas spent a lot of energy on it's secondary... they had to. >;-) I am anxious to see how Murray performs. About 900 (800? I think it was 900?) yards in 13 games as a rookie is impressive.

Anyway, I've got beer and healthy snacks and I am looking forward to watching the first half.

GO PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Sep 12 - 06:35 PM

Wow! It was the Dallas receivers that did it.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 07 Sep 12 - 08:10 PM

Burned or what? On both sides of the ball. Cool.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Sep 12 - 12:31 PM

NFC East will be very interesting this year. With RG3 at Washington all their divisional games will draw interest.

Likewise the NFC South has, I believe, 3 playoff contenders with New Orleans, Atlanta and Carolina. Tampa looks to take a beating in the division.

The north is still strong but maybe not as powerful as last year and SF and Seattle will battle in the west.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 08 Sep 12 - 05:25 PM

Good take. Dunno about Seattle but I have limited knowlwdge.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Sep 12 - 07:41 PM

The pundits I have read pick Seattle but I like SF a little more than that.

The AFC has a lot of questions, New England a year older. Manning in Denver, Baltimore defense a year older, Houston? Pittsburgh? Cinci? who knows lots of good teams, but questionable improvement.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Sep 12 - 12:35 PM

Watchin Fox Pregame show. WOW Terry Bradshaw! What is with the mullett?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 09 Sep 12 - 12:57 PM

Ain't that silly lookin? Long and Strahan should hold him down while Johnson takes care of that thing with a rusty razor.

Ya'd think someone would say sumpthin even tho he's a big dude and he's got 4 rings. Then again, for a number of years he's been a lot about flash and sayin stupid stuff ta get a laff.

But it sure looks silly on a grown hairy-assed man.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 02:35 PM

Panthers ahead for the first time this year, I think.

TB looks for real. Pats look bad.

Must... resist.... bad.... pun!

Colts having good "Luck?"

Sorry.....

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 03:08 PM

Don't apologize... just do it.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 03:23 PM

GOOOOOOO PANTHERS!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 04:34 PM

Woooooo Hooooooo!!

Giants squeak by.

Pats don't

Wow!!! Colts!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 04:49 PM

Oh my fuck. Not only do I not believe what just happened in Patsland but... I'll just say I am losing my interest in the NFL at a great rate a fuckin nauts. That was shit. Plain, obvious shit. How the fuck do you throw a game in broad daylight SO Many times IN 60 fuckin minutes and expect fans to tune in next week? I feel 8 years old again and the big kid just nailed me in the nuts with the puck. IS EVERY FUCKIN SPORT FIXED FER FUCK SAKE?

We just found out that MLS is (well, HAS been) fixed. I just watched the Owskis throw a game... unless they just coudn't handle the pressure and came apart?

Sorry but that is they way I feel. If I didn't see it right, and someone believes I am wrong, maybe... oh, nevermind... I was thinking about spending more time in the kitchen anyway. I decide what *I* fix for eats in my kitchen.

Did I say, "Oh my fuck."?

Biscuits... yeah... fresh biscuits, molasses, fried ham and eggs... I wonder who is playing later.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 04:51 PM

Pittsburgh NyJ is a good game so far.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 05:04 PM

Then they must be playin football. Not the shit I watched. Yes, I am that pissed off. The Pats need better actors if they want me ta tune in next week.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 05:08 PM

It came down to a bad kick.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: J-boy
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 06:00 PM

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is going on with the Pats?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: olddude
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 08:56 PM

Well my Steelers looked good and they did it the Steeler way with great defense and solid running. Now if they can keep going that way

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 09:05 PM

Bottom line... We need real refs...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 09:13 PM

Pats fans, the Cards did try to give the game back! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 09:13 PM

49ers are looking good.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 09:18 PM

There were more blown calls today in the Redskins/Rams game then I've seen in years...

No, I wouldn't say that they collectively changed the outcome but it's a shame to see such poorly officiated games...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 10:18 PM

I don't mind refs making mistakes. Happens and that is what the challenges are for. If the refs never made any bad calls I wouldn't get any exercise.

Yeah, really... watch a game with me. I relly get into it. Well, I used to.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 10:25 PM

It would be nice if the scab-refs knew the rules???

They don't...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: ranger1
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 10:41 PM

Glad I had to work today and missed the Pats game. I think my blood pressure might have gone through the roof if i had watched it.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 11:14 PM

Should be a good one Monday night. I am cheering for Payton but I think Atlanta will win.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Sep 12 - 06:47 PM

Bad week for the Panthers. Cam needs to grow up some.

Steelers lose to Raiders???? OUCH! Oldude.

Pats lose to Ravens, Good matchup anyway

And Green Bay!!! Robbed by the refs. Ooooh those refs. The league is back to the bargaining table?

Niners pillaged by the Vikings!

What a week!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 25 Sep 12 - 07:42 PM

I gotta say, if I gotta listen to the commentators yang on the refs all season it will be a short season for me. Give me a fuckin break eh?!!!!

NO way they are doin a worse job than the regular refs. *I* KNOW because I used to yell at the regular fuckers every week. Of course, I got two TVs and two VCRs and I am a football nut. They only have a DOZEN REPLAY ANGLES FROM A DOZEN CAMERAS AND THEY ARE THERE while I am watching from a thousand miles away. I see shit in real time and most times I do not need to see the replay to know that the regualar refs woulda fucked that call up too.

Oh... trash talk is supposed to be on the other thread? Sorry.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 25 Sep 12 - 09:43 PM

Sorry Gnu but the Pack was robbed. I mean the ref guys have to be fucking blind to call that game. If I were a seahawk fan I would be embarrassed.

Steelers, well ya can turn over the ball and expect to win. Good to see Ben throw well though. They will be back.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Sep 12 - 10:04 PM

Good to see Ben throw well though. They will be back

Yeah. They will.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 26 Sep 12 - 05:20 PM

Without a doubt.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 26 Sep 12 - 07:51 PM

I've read the NFL's rationale for the final play of the Packer's game, and it doesn't make sense. The Packers player took the ball in the air, came down with it, and never let go. The Seahawks player had a hand resting on the ball and never had possession. I've seen some bad calls in most forms of football, but this one really takes the biscuit. I was giving the replacement crews the benefit of the doubt, but this weekend was an officiating (and PR) disaster!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Sep 12 - 12:12 AM

Agreement made!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 10:37 AM

Hernandez is out and Gronkowski is Q after a hip injury late in the week? Oh, crap! Buffalo could run them out of the stadium. Time of possession is gonna decide this one... Woodhead is averaging 2.5 and if Brady can't get to Whelker (can you say double-team?) the Pats are in serious trouble.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 10:48 AM

I think that even without those guys, NE has a much better offense. Keep in mind also that Buffalo will be with a third string running back or one just coming back from IR.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 12:58 PM

We'll see. Lots of surprises. Skins have the highest rated offense? Gosh, I wouldna thought that but we are only 3 games in, so...

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 01:01 PM

Only ONE game on TV here this afternoon? Now, that pisses me off more than watching the Pats' first three games.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 01:20 PM

Wellll... I gotta say that Gronkowski played a major part of that first drive so my earlier comments were skewed by misinformation.

Oh, yeah... the Pats put together some amazing plays! That's the strategy I love about yankee football.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 02:04 PM

Kaaarazy game in the Georgia dome. Panthers shaky but so far beating what many have called the number one team in the NFC, if not in the league.

I am very impressed so far with 95 C. Johnson and 59 L. Kuechly on the defense!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 03:53 PM

24 Norman has made some good plays! Good rookie play on the D.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 04:00 PM

90 Alexander also a good game. Rookies are stepping up!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 05:54 PM

How bout that Tom Brady?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 06:25 PM

Brady is/can be amazing, thanks to The Belly. He was amazing at the line today but only due to, what, at least a dozen years of being coached by the best ever coaches? Talent is inate but making it happen is an inate quality that few coaches have in the way the The Belly has it.

I am willing to say that Brady is the smartest QB ever. Sheer talent? Well, that is a tough call.

Hahahahahaaa... I just made myself laugh by comparing Brady and Bradshaw in my mind.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 06:36 PM

So far for sheer talent I would have to go with a QB who can run and has a good arm. Staubach, Steve Young, and John Elway come to mind. If being dumb is not held against them Mike Vick and Cam Newton. (There is some hope for Newton to grow up.)

Vick takes the prize for the difference between smarts and talent.

Elway would be my pick.

Montana ranks with Brady as the best leader.

Bradshaw was awesome, but you have to give the rest of his offense, especially Stallworth and Swan, a lot of credit. How could you cover them?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 06:50 PM

JtS... Vick on sheer talent and no brains... hard to dispute.

Stallworth and Swan? Yeah... but, who does Brady have ta throw at?

Apples and apples are hard to sort out, eh?

I still gotta say... smart - Brady. Sheer talent - Bradshaw.

Oh, yeah... tough? - Grogan (poor fucker... >;-) )

Not takin anything away from Elway, Montana (who I LOVED to watch play), Kelly (that was tragic to me), Marino (not so tragic because he always struck me as an arrogant SOB) and sO many others.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 07:48 PM

The refs could have cost GB the game on a blown fumble call.













tT

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: J-boy
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 03:29 AM

You musn't forget Warren Moon if you're discussing great quarterbacks. That man could throw a football. If only he had made it to a superbowl.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Oct 12 - 05:03 AM

Warren was the best QB ever to play the Canadian game. A true star here as well. If we are talking release and accuracy, don't we have to give it to Marino.

MVP on his team has to go to P. Manning. Wow what a difference he made in Indy!

Who is/was the toughest?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Oct 12 - 05:04 AM

hail-mary-ref-i-learned-a-rule-by-screwing-up-the-rule

This story touched me. I thought it would be enjoyed by some of you, especially gnu.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 05 Oct 12 - 08:02 AM

Who is/was the toughest?... I already voted. If there was a trophy for the most broken bones I am pretty sure it would be Grogan. From patriotglory.com :Had Grogan had the rules that QBs enjoy today, it is not inconceivable to think he would have been a much better QB than he already was. Fact of the matter is, Grogan was a very dedicated and tough QB. He played with broken bones, torn ligaments, sprained tendons, and crushed vertebrae. Grogan even played one year with cracked vertebrae in his neck and never once complained of his ailment, nor made any excuses about his performance. Only after the season completed, and a statement was released, did fans find out about his injury.

JtS... yup. Thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 05 Oct 12 - 06:03 PM

I'd agree about Grogan - he almost made the Pats respectable in the Superbowl against the Bears, after Tony Eason had his career destroyed.

At least nobody's mentioned Tony Romo. He was the main difference between the Bears and Boys last Monday night. It was only after he was replaced in the last 3 minutes that the Boys had anything like an O.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Oct 12 - 06:48 PM

I was thinking Farvre. He took a pounding and didn't really get injured. Tough like a piece of leather. Played at the highest level for a very long time. But playing with injury shows a lot of bravery. Playing with pain shows grit and toughness.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 06 Oct 12 - 07:47 AM

The rule changes have definitely thrown a wrench into such discussion, making a judgement, subjective to begin with, near impossible. I certainly welcomed the changes whcih I believe have not only improved safety but have also improved the overall level of skill required to be effective on the field. Smashmouth football is still here and will never leave, nor SHOULD it, but I don't miss the days of yore when it had the influence it had. Double goes for hockey.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Oct 12 - 02:11 PM

I think I just saw Matt Ryan make the dumbest play I have ever seen a QB make. He was intercepted by a lineman rushing on a swing pass.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 07 Oct 12 - 07:54 PM

Hey, The Belly called to go for it rather than punt and pin with an edge (a double edge) LATE... fumble... TD... piss me off. There had to be a reason... eh? anyone got a clue as to what it was?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Oct 12 - 12:33 AM

They both won, so it barely matters. Welcome to the NFL RG3. Niners had a heck of a game. Panthers didn't. How 'bout them Colts!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 18 Oct 12 - 09:47 AM

patriots-quick-offense-borderline-illegal

Interesting....

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Oct 12 - 02:45 PM

Panthers are leading????

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 21 Oct 12 - 05:34 PM

I was just watching the CFL highlights earlier. Hamilton at Calgary looked like it was being played in a blizzard - nearly as much snow as in Norway. Has winter reached the NFL yet?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Oct 12 - 05:35 PM

Nope. Not that I have seen. It was about 22 C in Charlotte today.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: GUEST,jts
Date: 21 Oct 12 - 07:31 PM

OVERTIME against the Jets?? What is wrong with the Pats?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 21 Oct 12 - 07:48 PM

Jags and Raiders have gone to OT too. Maybe the Raiders are saving all their energy for Wembley.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 21 Oct 12 - 07:50 PM

PS. I still don't like the new Game Centre on NFL.COM!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Oct 12 - 08:04 PM

Jac and Oak were much more evenly matched. Jac did well with injuries to Gabbart and Jones Drew!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 21 Oct 12 - 10:00 PM

What a day! So many exciting down-to-the-wire games!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 26 Oct 12 - 02:53 AM

Just setting off for London. Pats @ Rams at Wembley! Should almost feel like a New England home game.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 28 Oct 12 - 12:44 PM

NFL on Fox... I nearly spit my beer when Joe Glazier said there was a video out about hitting guys hard but not hurting them... by... no shit... RONNIE LOTT! Hahahahaaa!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 28 Oct 12 - 02:06 PM

The Gronk does a Queen's Guard march and the Brit's "get" the salute to them? Cooool.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 29 Oct 12 - 04:55 PM

Dave... good time?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 29 Oct 12 - 09:07 PM

Great time, gnu. Lot more Rams jerseys than I expected, but Most looked as if they'd been bought on the way into the stadium. Brady jerseys everywhere, and I did see one Grogan, but no Tony Easons (surprise, surprise). My seat was a lot further back than I expected, but the new Wembley has great sightlines, even from the top. I wish the NFL still printed the officials names in the programme - I recognised the ref but couldn't remember his name! Had a great view of the Belly's bald patch once I'd identified him - I didn't realise that all the Pats' coaches wore hoodies! Hardly any British jerseys nowadays. Back in the days of the American Bowl you used to see them all, and I remember seeing the Ravens' squad with Ario Cruz (Ravens quarterback) complaining of 60 odd unanswered points in the playoffs. I wish I had a Ravens jersey, especially if I go to the Pittsburgh game next year (my son prefers the 9ers!). Now trying to catch up on the weekend's action - so far I've watched one and a half games of Rugby Union, and found a site which carries the Shinty/Hurling international - Radio Alba only did it live, but it seems to be available on TG4, and I understand even less Irish than I do Gaelic! And now I'm going to put MNF on my hard disc!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Oct 12 - 12:45 AM

Wonderful!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Elmore
Date: 30 Oct 12 - 09:50 AM

The Pats-Rams gane was a yawn, but as a Patriots fan that was fine with me.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Elmore
Date: 30 Oct 12 - 09:53 AM

Gane? What's a gane? I meant game. Sorry.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 02 Nov 12 - 03:05 PM

Dave... I echo JtS! Makes me warm and fuzzy to hear you enjoyed the game. I did too. Kept looking to see you wave to us over the pond but musta missed ya during beer breaks.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Nov 12 - 11:14 PM

RG3 Vs the Camster Sunday. considering the defenses of theses teams. should be a slugfest!! I think the Panthers will win their second in a slugfest.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 03 Nov 12 - 04:44 AM

I'd have waved, but I was tucked up almost in the rafters, so the cameras were never on me. Still got 10 minutes of the MNF game to watch - makes the Rams/Pats game look comparatively close!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Nov 12 - 11:38 PM

So tell me again why Alex Smith is a starting Quarterback? lol

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 03:09 AM

Not this week he ain't. Just started to watch the MNF game. Neither the Bears nor the Niners have their strating Quarterback fit.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 02:28 PM

But at least on this showing, the Niners' back-up CAN play.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 21 Nov 12 - 02:38 AM

Seeing The Gronk out for 4 to 6 (6, I hope) weeks makes me a tad edgy for my Pats.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 22 Nov 12 - 04:43 PM

Muat be Thanksgiving. Detroit have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Nov 12 - 05:38 PM

Hernandez is back though. Brady against Sanchez/Tebow? They should win this one!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 22 Nov 12 - 05:46 PM

Detroit desrved that. Run on 2 and 3 down straight up the middle? And LOSE yardage? WTF?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 22 Nov 12 - 06:46 PM

Skins v Boys now. Looks like Tony Romo's in trouble - somebody must have left the headlights on

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 06:08 AM

Most impressive for me yesterday was watching Stafford's throwing arm. Witch the exception of several inaccurate passes late in the game, his ability to zip it with minimal cocking and, even moreso, his ability to sling it, ala Elway style and even almost underhand, was like watching poetry in motion. I was truly entertained by watching such an arm!

Yes, RG3 was impressive as well.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Elmore
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 08:33 AM

Gnu: Still edgy about the Pats? I was, but got over it last night.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 10:14 AM

The headlines on NFL.com

Men against boys.

Patriots vs Jets, no longer a rivalry.

and my favorite...

Bullies!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 12:11 PM

Nervous over the Jets? Hahahaa.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 01:32 PM

"Seeing The Gronk out for 4 to 6 (6, I hope) weeks makes me a tad edgy for my Pats."

So "edgy" is OK and nervous is "ha ha."

LOL!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 07:36 PM

JtS... we're talkin the Jets, right? Who needs The Gronk to smack the Jets? Fuck... I coulda ran patterns... well... walked em fast if I got a smoke break now and then... same result.

OH ME NERVES!

NF joke.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 07:54 PM

I loved watching the Redskins beat the Cowboys in Dallas yesterday... I hate the Cowboys team... I don't much care for their owner either... Of course, I ain't wild about the Redskin's owner, Dan Snyder, either...

RGIII was the shits last night... 4 touchdown passes after throwing 4 against Philly last week...

It's more fun being a 'Skins fan this year...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 08:40 PM

Bobert! Do you hate the Cowboys for the same reason as me? With me, same as for the Raiders... dirty, dirty, dirty football years ago. Nasty bastards! Cheat as much as possible and simply maim and injure. Kinda like, but not as bad as, Philly in the NHL years back. I gave up on watching hockey and I am a CANUCK! I am serious. Grew up with a Sherwood in my hands but I can't watch NHL hockey except for the semis and on if there is a Canuck team in it. International hockey? Love it. Flyers? They can go take a flyin **** along with the Cowboys and the Raiders.

Save Howie Long, of course. When yer that big and strong and talented ya don't gotta play dirty, ya just gitta suit up.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 08:55 PM

No, gn-ze... I hate the Raiders for the same reason you hate them... I hate the Cowboys because they are arrogant and call themselves "America's Team"...

I like Howie, too...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 10:47 PM

Yeah, Howie is a cool guy. "Gentle giant" comes to mind. Gentleman on and off the field. But, I still wouldn't wanna run across the middle if he dropped back. I'd rather be hit by Ronnie Lott!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 11:09 PM

I was a Cowboys fan from 1978 to 2010. They never had a dirty defense. On the other hand the Raiders bragged about being dirty.

I am no better off with the Panthers than the cowboys, except that the Panthers are genuinely rebuilding while the Cowboys underperform. and the Panthers are in Charlotte and their games are always shown here.

Jerry Jones, on the other hand is the worst owner ever because he fired one of the best pro coach/general manager ever, Jimmy Johnson, then replace the GM with a very very poor GM, himself.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 03:35 AM

Is Jerry Jones turning into the new Al Davis?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 07:19 AM

Maybe not on the line, JtS... I do recall enjoying watching the front line and the "four" were massive. BIG, fat guys that could still move fast. But, I saw a lot of chop blocks outside of them and late hits in the secondary. Now, fact is I never saw a LOT of their games until late season. I'll bet you are far more knowledgible than I.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 09:11 AM

Al Davis was very good for a long time. Jones is nothing without Johnson.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 25 Nov 12 - 06:58 AM

I read a lot about Johnson and his career and admired him all the more for it. He paid a heavy personal price for his dedication which some may disagree with but he did it knowingly and accepted the consequences. In my opinion, football IS guys like him.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Nov 12 - 09:22 AM

Yeah.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 08:05 PM

WOW STEELERS!!

Charlie Batch???

Woo Hoo!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 08:07 PM

Peyton Who???

Indy is LUCKy Town now!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 07:15 PM

I mentioned Jerry Jones above as the new Al Davis, and I was thinking that Jason Garrett might be a better Head Coach with a different GM. Think of all the ex Raiders coaches who have picked up Superbowl rings in their subsequent careers. I also don't agree with Troy Aikman's (reported) opinion that Tony Romo is a better quarterback than he was.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 07:59 PM

He's gotta say that, if ONLY to be a gentleman, JtS. And, some of the shit he said yesterday in his commentary was inane. I hope he doesn't have the brain injury demonstrated over the past few years by Phil Simms... that guy drives me nuts at times and I myself am not all that "bright" anymore for a few health reasons.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 11:30 PM

Wow, Romo vs Aikman?

I've watch both play for years. Romo is more mobile and certainly throws better on the run than Troy did. I think he also has a better arm for long passes. But then, with Dez, Miles and Whitten, I think he has more targets and a better receiving corps than Troy did. Aikman stayed in the pocket longer, Was much more accurate under pressure than Tony and had as much poise under pressure as any QB as I have ever seen. He and Michael Irvin were magic together.

Antonio Ramiro "Tony" Romo (born April 21, 1980) is a professional American football quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys of the NFL. Romo went undrafted in 2003 after playing college football at Eastern Illinois and signed as a free agent with the Dallas Cowboys.

In their primes I would way rather have Aikman, who was a Number one draft pick. So obviously NFL scouts and general managers thought the same.

I am not the judge of QB play that Troy Aikman is. But I think he is very wrong on this one. I think that so far, the only two QBs in the League currently on a par with him are Brady and Peyton Manning. Though Big Ben and other Manning aren't far behind. I think Rogers, Stafford and the rest of the premier QB's safe in their jobs have a ways to go and Romo is not on a par with them.

Look at it this way, How many teams would trade their starting QB, one for one for Romo? 5-6 maybe. How many for Brady or Aikman in his prime? 25?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 10:18 PM

HOW ABOUT THAT CAM NEWTON??

Seriously in a bad year, beating the dirty birds in this one is a Sunday treat!

How about Adrien Peterson and Calvin Johnson heading for record breaking years? Awesome about AP coming off surgery and in a league that no longer favors runners.

Fun year for football. Look at all those great rookie QB's. RG3 needs to look after himself better though.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 10:28 PM

Yup.

One question. Will the entire coaching staff of the Steelers be fired this week? If not, I know the reason. I am not the owner.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 03:38 AM

The same Steelers who have had many serious injuries this year including their best offensive and defensive players and a head coach with 2 Superbowls in three appearances?

I would say they won't be firing him so the Patriots won't snatch him up ;-)

Or at least the Browns, Bengals or Ravens.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: olddude
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 09:22 AM

It all turned to shit , right before my vary eyes yesterday. Other than the Packers ... wow ... suckage

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 11:38 PM

I guess the pundits might stop saying the Texans are the best in the league?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: olddude
Date: 11 Dec 12 - 09:28 AM

Packers and Pats in the superbowl this year my guess

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: GUEST, David E.
Date: 11 Dec 12 - 05:24 PM

Patriots, Ravens, Packers, Giants, Niners.... any of them are better teams than either the Texans or Falcons. Records don't mean much at this time of the season.

David E.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 11 Dec 12 - 05:53 PM

Wellll... what was all that shit on the NFL talk shows on Sunday about the Pats and the Texans? Advertisement? Boosting the ratings? I knew it was gonna be a dressing down, hands down. Made a few bucks on it, too. Didn't know it was gonna be embarassing, of course, but that crap on Sunday was just sad. To be expected I guess. Salesman's puffing is legal.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 11 Dec 12 - 06:32 PM

Know what you mean, gnu. The greatest ever MNF game?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 11 Dec 12 - 10:27 PM

Dunno if it was... no! My fav was NOT MNF... Buffalo comeback with the Oilers. Family get together so it was a Sunday. My BiL was laffing and I said it wasn't over and that the Bills would come back. He offered a bet of my coosing. I said a buck. Won a buck. What a great game.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Dec 12 - 10:57 PM

We might get a clearer picture the playoff & super bowl contenders this Sunday.

Falcons have a chance to show some balls and put the defending champs behind Washington in the playoff hunt. It would be interesting to see RG3 in the playoffs. And with the Giants out Atlanta's chances look better. If the Giants stomp Atlanta like they did Green Bay, I'd pick them in the AFC.

Is Indy for real? If they beat the Texans look out! But Texan seen on the decline.

I can see one of this year's crop of rookies possibly making a playoff run. Wilson's got a great D and Washington has those two great rookies on offense.

Ravens, Steelers seem to have too many injuries.

Oh yeah and there's Peyton and a pretty good D.

Packers Bears? I like the Packers. But the Giants sure handled them. I'll bet Aaron Roger is rooting for Atlanta.

So far I would pick Niners-Pats as the two best teams. But we will know a lot more about their relative strengths after this weekend.

Gnu, I am surprised that you and Raptor are not talking trash about this one. It is the most interesting match-up to me so far this year.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 09:17 PM

Niners look really really good. Will they play the dirty birds in the NFC championship?

Steelers have a tough row to hoe Olddude.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 09:18 PM

The Broncos seem to be the best in the AFC. Brady vs Manning in the AFC championship. Where have I heard that tune before?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Dec 12 - 11:45 PM

HOW ABOUT DEM NINERS!!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 23 Dec 12 - 04:18 PM

Bellychuck is a mastermind! No details, just accolades. THAT was CLASSIC! and VERY enjoyable for me.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Dec 12 - 05:20 PM

The RG3's have their fate in their hands.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 23 Dec 12 - 05:33 PM

A year of MANY possibilities. One of the most interesting in about six years.

GO PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Dec 12 - 07:16 PM

Giants are getting their Butts handed to them b=but even if they lose can still get in.

It think the AFC will be Pats or Broncos or Colts. I guess Titans or Bengals could surprise. Probability in that order. Depending on whether Luck is even better in the playoffs, which he could be.

NFC should be a hell of a playoffs. Washington and Seattle and SF with those great young QB's, Packers and FNo matter who plays it should be a good game. This could be the best NFL playoff season ever!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Dec 12 - 07:16 PM

Who else is looking forward to Seahawks/Niners??

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 23 Dec 12 - 07:19 PM

Anyone who can watch, I would think!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Dec 12 - 07:28 PM

My Panthers seem to be peaking again. I hope Rivera keeps his job. it takes time to build a defense.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 23 Dec 12 - 07:44 PM

I suspect I won't be able to watch SNF till Friday. Got to pack up to head to London to see the kids, grandkids and Priscilla Presley!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Dec 12 - 08:02 PM

kids, grandkids and Priscilla Presley!

one of these things are not like the others!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Dec 12 - 09:16 PM

Sorry Raptor, Hawks look like the better team.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 23 Dec 12 - 09:22 PM

With the blocked field goal and TD... well... I shall soon be off to oggies.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 24 Dec 12 - 10:58 AM

Steelers? I am disappointed.

Wilfork words of wisdom :"I don't know if we were flat or what, but it showed that we weren't ready to go right away," nose tackle Vince Wilfork told Comcast SportsNet New England. "When that happens, we really have to buckle down and play football. I think sometimes we did, sometimes we didn't."

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Dec 12 - 11:51 PM

Cowboys?
Cowboys?
Cowboys?

Is it time for them to draft a QB in the first round?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 31 Dec 12 - 12:31 AM

Credit the Redskins offense, they kept the Cowboys off the field and their gambling defense didn't give Romo a lot of options.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 31 Dec 12 - 04:06 AM

Missed it. Watched hockey at zero 0dark hundred hours and shovelled &^(%^*#$&* snow on and off all day and fell asleep in the recliner. Beer was also involved.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: ranger1
Date: 31 Dec 12 - 08:13 AM

Don't worry, gnu. It was kind of a boring game. Dolphins didn't put up much of a fight.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Jan 13 - 11:20 PM

Wow! The Packers looked good this week!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 07:24 PM

Are the Seahawks the worst possible matchup for the Falcons next week? I'm thinking Packers/Seahawks in the NFC championship. I'm liking a Pats/ Seahawks Superbowl so far.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 08:03 PM

I'm disappointed that RGIII didn't ask the coach to come out of the game after he got hurt in the 2nd quarter... Coach wasn't goin' to pull him so it was up to RGIII to step aside and let Cousins, who has won the only two games he has played this season, finish... Immature on RGIII's part... Maybe next year he'll be more "team" oriented...

Any way, the Redskins had a good season...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 08:23 PM

I saw it TOTALLy the opposite way, Bobert. He should have been benched by the offense coach immediately. That was just fuckin stupid on more than one level. I blame the head coach and the offense coach... or offensive coordinater or whatever they call them these days.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 08:53 PM

Think about it this way, gn-ze... The Redskins gave up 2 first round draft picks for him and a 2nd... That's the farm... He is the Redskins future... You bench him and you take a talent who no longer has any loyalty to your team... This was RGIII's decision... Not coach's...

That's the way it is...

No one ever benched Elway... Or Montana... Or Bradey...

When you have a franchise QB you just ***don't*** ever bench him... It's in the football bible... Page 1...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 09:15 PM

Bobert... bullshit. When any player is hurt, he is not doing the team any good and if HE doesn't understand that, he is not a team player. And, any coach that can't explain that to a player or teach him to be a team player ain't a coach and should be BENCHED permanently.

AND... who the fuck would let a player go on the field with an injury? That is just wrong. It's a fuckin game! You and I would go on the field with an injury but that should NEVER be OUR call if we have a coach making the decisions... the coach has to do the right thing doesn't he?... right or wrong?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 09:33 PM

We'll have to agree to disagree here...

Am I disappointed that Cousins didn't get a chance to pull this game out??? Yeah, I am...

But this game will make RGIII more mature and stronger and in the big scheme of things will be of more value to the future of the team and RGIII...

Benching would have been a crap shoot, at best...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 09:58 PM

Benching an injured player is not a crap shoot... it is the right thing to do for that player. It's just a game. A player is a fellow human being.

So, yeah, I disagree.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 11:13 PM

Robert didn't want to come out but he wasn't playing like he could if healthy. Shanahan should have yanked him, 100% of Cousins is better than 80% of Griffin. I actually think that the more significant injury was that Pro bowl O-lineman who left in the first half. His injury lead to Griffin's re-injury.

Bobert I don't think Griffin is the future of your franchise. As fragile as he seems to be and as reckless as he plays, I don't think he will last. If he loses a couple of steps through injury, Cousins is the better QB because he is better in the pocket. But build up O-line and defense a little and your team will be as good as any in the NFC East, even with Cousins.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 12:53 AM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000123086/article/mike-shanahan-we-wouldnt-risk-further-injury-to-rg3

The NFL take on RG3

"Robert said to me, 'Coach, there's a difference between injured and being hurt. I can guarantee I'm hurting right now, give me a chance to win this football game because I guarantee I'm not injured,' " Shanahan said. "That was enough for me."

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Jan 13 - 06:51 PM

Junior Seau suffered from chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE),

So sad.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 10 Jan 13 - 09:51 PM

"Just a game." seems a silly thing to post in light of this discussion and the posts.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Jan 13 - 10:30 PM

I've found the new rules this year about head to head contact to be a bit tedious. But now I am all for them. The players will adjust.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Jan 13 - 06:25 PM

I'd forgotten how good Peyton Manning is. And Trenton Holiday, the littlest guy on the field, so far, is the difference!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jan 13 - 06:37 PM

AMAZING run back, eh?

That call on the TD was bizarre! NO way he could call that... NO way it could be overturned!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jan 13 - 08:03 PM

I need more beer! Can you believe THAT?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Jan 13 - 08:08 PM

The beer is good! That is why I misspelled Holliday's name. That and not having ever seen it before.

Thank you Coach Fox for reminding me why I am grateful for Rivera!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Jan 13 - 08:32 PM

Looking good for New England.

If Denver's secondary doesn't play better against Brady, he and Belichick will carve them like a turkey. The way they carved up Houston once already. If the Raven's Offensive staff doesn't call better plays...

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Jan 13 - 08:49 PM

The AFC is there for the taking for the Pats!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 03:45 AM

Good News all NFL.com pundits pick the Pats.

Bad news. They all picked the BroncosQ

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 04:41 AM

I was surprised and a little sad about the Broncos/Ravens but it was a great game, a nailbiter fer sure.

I was sure Rodgers would have a good game but it looked like he was the Rookie in comparison. I was amazed by the kid's throwing action... hardly cock it and throw a bulllet! And he sure can run but I hope the coach explains to him that he is NOT a back or a receiver and ya just don't finish a run with contact if it can be avoided. Then again, it's a morale boost for the team and for the fans. Still dumb, tho. I made it a point to watch the highlight reel at nfl.com as soon as I got up this AM. It's was worth it just to watch that kid throw the ball... poetry.

And Gore? And Crabtree? Wow!

Two of the best games this year... so far.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 04:25 PM

The 49ers O-line were the stars of that game IMHO. Colin Kaepernick is the QB for them but the time he was getting and the holes opened up for Gore and him. AWESOME! Should be a heck of an NFC championship!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 04:29 PM

Nice interview with Gonzales. It is nice to see him get his first playoff win.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 04:32 PM

Which Texans team will we see? First 10 games Texans? Last 6 games of the season Texans?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 05:07 PM

Texans have the dropsies. NE has key injuries...

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 05:50 PM

But they still, for the moment, make it look easy. Welker never ceases to amaze. Maybe and MVP candidtte? or is that just me?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 05:55 PM

Patriots offensive MVP candidates,

Brady, Gronkowski, Hernandez, Welker, the O line ;-), Danny Woodhead, Ridley and each one makes all the others better!

How can you choose one? LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 06:13 PM

Yer right, as usual.

Game is gettin reeeeal interestin now.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 06:13 PM

Too interesting!! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 06:57 PM

No longer interesting ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 07:38 PM

Gnervous Gnu?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 08:34 PM

gnope. gnever was, really.

NE and ? in The Big Show?

I favour SF right now but I really don't know the matchup as I haven't seen much of them with my limited TV coverage.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 08:43 PM

I think that it will be SF. They look really good with Colin K.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Elmore
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 11:26 AM

Enjoyed the Pats game. My wife, the queen of fair weather fans, watched it with me. Usually, it's just the cat and I.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 12:09 PM

When I was growing up our cat used to watch hockey. Sometimes she would "attack" the players on the screen.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Jan 13 - 03:57 AM

CFL to NFL! marc-trestman-to-be-next-chicago-bears-coach

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jan 13 - 07:59 PM

JtS... got any pics of yer pussy? The furry one? The four legged one.

It's okay, folks... his better half and I go WAY back. She is cool.

I have at least one pic of CC... in front of an outhouse in Ontario, I think. Very attractive woman but you knew that ya lucky bugger!

Anyway, I was a cat "appreciater" at one time so pics of yer pussy would be cool.

Bud... as usual... why do you ask? Huh? I dunno. I don't count them. All I know is that there ain't none left.

GO HABS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Jan 13 - 10:24 PM

Someone been slipping u katgnip gnu?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 20 Jan 13 - 04:05 PM

Now we have a game again!

I can't believe the Falcons' offense is controlling the line of scrimmage! That is just unreal!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 20 Jan 13 - 06:10 PM

I just had a feeling about how this was gonna go. In the end, bad calls by the Falcons and good calls by the Niners.

GO PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jan 13 - 09:26 PM

Not looking good

Harbaugh vs Harbaugh?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jan 13 - 09:42 PM

I love it!!!

Not too sure who I want between SF and Baltimore... Got reason both and against both...

But Harbaugh v. Harbaugh makes thinks interesting...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 20 Jan 13 - 10:28 PM

I had a feeling a week ago that was gonna happen and it did. Sad that my fav team lost but I feel glad for Lewis.

Flacco has the strongest arm in the NFL? Okay. And, apparently, the most accurate. Haven't seen much of him up here but what I saw this eve was goooood.

The SB is a tough call but I would put my coin on the Ravens.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jan 13 - 10:29 PM

6 hours of CBS announcers talking about the Harbaughs is not something to look forward to.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jan 13 - 11:39 PM

I think that SF has more talent on both sides of the ball. But veteran leadership on defense, Lewis, Reed etc might prevail.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 21 Jan 13 - 07:04 PM

I used to cheer for SF when they were in the show but I owe it to Lewis to cheer for the Ravens. Of course, I just wanna see a good game now that my team, since I was 9 years old, is out of it.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Jan 13 - 10:34 PM

I have a friend who said he wouldn't cheer for Lewis because of the murder charges.

I read about it. He pled down to probation and his friends were aquited. I hope Ray doesn't get in any bar fights in n'aleans.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 22 Jan 13 - 05:38 AM

I had to read up on it again as I had forgotten most of the details.

It seems he was in the wrong place at the wrong time but that's no excuse for lying to the police and I REALLY don't get the part about getting rid of the white suit??? Did the others do the same? Lots of questions and conjecture... no answers. But, he didn't buy a knife and the other two did. Why they bought knives is the biggest question of all for me.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 24 Jan 13 - 10:23 PM

I was puttin on me jammies when the phone rang just minutes ago. Buddy asks me if I heard Brady got a $10,000 fine for the spike!!! I said, no! REALLY?... GOOD!!!

He's my fav QB of nearly all time to watch on the field (come on, who can't absolutely love cudly TB or admire Montana or absofuckinglutely respect Fran or... you get the pic) but I was shocked when I saw that spike and I could not believe it wasn't called. I was two feet from the TV in half the amount of seconds and screaming for a flag and I really don't understand how those refs didn't hear my call for a personal foul penalty??? Ahhhh.... yes I live alone... why do you ask?

When I saw the slo-mo replay, I was twice as pissed. But, the guy is my present QB "hero" on accounta he plays for "my" team so I thought, "mistake" and accepted the fact that the refs musta seen it that way too and, well, gee, okaaaaay, I can live with it. Thank goodness for a review in "the BIG booth upstairs". Ten large is fuck all to Brady but it speaks LARGE to fans like me.

In see Elway says SF. May be. But not if the golden boy runs early and hasn't learned to slide a knee yet... Ray and his buddies gonna put a hurt on that lad if he finishes with his head. Seems to me the coaches are not doing their job when that lad runs and thinks he's a back when he does. Am I wrong?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: olddude
Date: 24 Jan 13 - 10:39 PM

Thats cause you are getting his Jersey GNU,   Now If I got ya a Big Ben you would be a Steeler fan .. lol

yup that was a cheap shot, and 10K was fair ...

my money is on the Ravens, they are on a roll to win it all

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: bobad
Date: 25 Jan 13 - 12:49 AM

The Impending Death Of Pro Football
By Ta-Nehisi Coates

Jan 22 2013, 4:19 PM ET 229

This is major:

    Brain scans performed on five former NFL players revealed images of the protein that causes football-related brain damage -- the first time researchers have identified signs of the crippling disease in living players.

    Researchers who conducted the pilot study at UCLA described the findings as a significant step toward being able to diagnose the disease known as Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy, or CTE, in living patients.

    "I've been saying that identifying CTE in a living person is the Holy Grail for this disease and for us to be able make advances in treatment," said Dr. Julian Bailes, a Chicago neurosurgeon and one of the study's co-authors. "It's not definitive and there's a lot we still need to discover to help these people, but it's very compelling. It's a new discovery."


I don't know if this will change anything, right now. But telling a player "You have CTE" is a lot different than "You stand some chance of developing it."

There's something more; presumably, if they really learn how to diagnose this, they will be able to say exactly how common it is for football players--and maybe athletes at large--to develop CTE. This is when you start thinking about football and an existential crisis. I don't know what the adults will do. But you tell a parent that their kid has a five percent chance of developing crippling brain damage through playing a sport, and you will see the end of Pop Warner and probably the end of high school football. Colleges would likely follow. (How common are college boxing teams these days?)

After that, I don't know how pro football can stand for long.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 25 Jan 13 - 09:10 PM

Pro football will last as long as the $ are there. I made the team when I was a lad. Came home with my gear. Mum said, "You take that stuff back." I appealed to Dad. Game over. Glad she did. But I still tune in on the TV. Will it change "overall" the way Mum changed it for me? Could be, but not for a looooong time.

Dan... nothin to do with gettin a jersey. I wouldn't want it if I didn't admire his abilities on the field. That is why I would treasure a jersey. Ben? Yeah, he's good but, not to piss you off, he's not a "Long Bomb" yet even though he has the abilities. Read that book some time. And, especially read Alex Karass's book "Big Guys Don't Cry". I REALLY enjoyed that book. I remember the day I read the last page. I was on a flight home and there was a young lad across the aisle. I asked, "You like football?" Yes! I said, "If yer Mum (next to him, obviously) is okay with this, you take this book and read it. I just finished it and I liked it." She nodded and he started reading it immediately. I enjoyed the book and I enjoyed giving ot to that lad even more so. Odd? No matter... made me feel good.

Seriously, Karass's book is a good read.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 31 Jan 13 - 11:45 AM

great article on SF offense.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 12:36 PM

Kick off in 6 hours. Predictions?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 06:32 PM

I just wrote another long post and WIN 8 fucked it. It just goes to another screen???

I know who is gonna win. I have every tee except the \ravens so \I have my Niners tee on UNDER my PATS hoody.

\ ???? Why does it do that? Agggghhhhh! I gotta plug inA N OLD KEYBOARD! oH, YEh, things ain't where they used to be with the new keyboard.

Anyway, I have my big ass football slippers on and the wings and sauce re in a decorative plastic serving dish shaped like a football. It was free with the wings and is dishwasher safe... I shall chuck it in the garbage and keep it away from the dishwasher.

Kickoff soon... pee, beer, smokes, remote, VCR taping...

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 06:59 PM

Finished my beer - can't get Dogfish Head nowadays, so it was a Belgian (Tongerlo Blonde). Now on a Glenrothes single malt. It's nearly midnight here, so I'd better not eat anything (had a water buffalo rib-eye steak earlier). Mike Carlson looks funny in a jacket and tie. I've seen too many games in all codes where the team that scores first goes on to lose. I think the Harbaugh in black will win.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 07:39 PM

Oh, now THAT is good football! What a gamble! Damn near made it and still good field position!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 07:45 PM

Just realized the BBC crew is in the superdome. Agree, gnu. Baltimore could seal the game in the 2 minutes.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 07:51 PM

We gonna see Alex Smith?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 07:52 PM

Do the Niners want to win this? Why hurdle when you could have touched him down?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 07:59 PM

I don't think the defensive player realized it was a catch.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 08:28 PM

"Baltimore could seal the game in the 2 minutes."

What did Vince say? The Buffalo "comeback game"?

Here is a quote from me... It ain't over until I collect my money or cry in my beer.

But I DO have my Pats hoody on over my 49s tee so I don't see how the Ravens can lose. Just sayin.

Anyone catch Phil Simms' Iron Man Show? Lots of GREAT stuff but saying Fred Biletnikoff didn't deserve the MVP is totally ludicrous after what Fred did all season and in the Superbowl! Anyone that can smoke FOUR packages of cigarettes DURING the Superbowl and do what Fred did deserves TWO rings... and a smoke ring.

Anyone who reads my football posts knows I have a dim view of Phil anyway... his eyesight is poor and his knowledge of the rules is "dimmer" - at best. I often holler at my TV (yes... I know Phil can't hear me), "WTF did you just say? Are we watchin the same game?"

Pee, beer, chicken wings.... SECOND HALF!

GO PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 08:35 PM

Well... now I am kinda pissed off. I wanna watch a game... not a rout.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 08:53 PM

Wow! 20 minutes? maybe more? That's a lot of beer!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 09:58 PM

Now we have a game!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 10:04 PM

"Within one score!".... Phil. I am sure he can afford a calculator. I don't, as a rule, crap on people, but gee golly gosh?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 11:24 PM

Just composed a long post but the new laptop ate it. Essentially, that holding penalty should have been called.

European football now, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 12:46 AM

hockey?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 07:55 AM

Football/curling/rugby for me. Hockey, save a few games*, begins in May.

* GO HABS GO!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 15 Feb 13 - 09:39 AM

Thanks DAN!

Thanks. You da man, Dan!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 15 Feb 13 - 02:18 PM

UR most welcome LOL
that is great

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 01 Mar 13 - 06:06 AM

Female kicker to attend NFL scouting combine


Former soccer player realizes odds are stacked against her

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Lauren Silberman has a scant chance at making the NFL.

Silberman never kicked anything more than a soccer ball in an organized game, and she just started practising long-range field goals.

Even so, the first female kicker scheduled to try out at an NFL regional scouting combine would like to see where her new hobby will take her. In an era where Danica Patrick can contend against men in motor sports, Silberman is about to take a big kick forward for female athletes, even if the odds are clearly stacked against her. The 28-year-old Silberman will kick Sunday at the New York Jets' training facility in Florham Park, N.J.

'I realize that I may not make an NFL team this year,' Silberman told NFL.com. 'But for me, I'm expecting to have fun, to meet really interesting people and hopefully perfect my technique from the other tremendous kickers that will be in attendance.' Her goal for the weekend is a true long shot - perfect 60-yard field goals. Odds are, though, that scouts will want to see her connect on extra points and chip-shot field goals with some consistency before moving on to the heavy kicking. Silberman will compete against more accomplished or polished college kickers, all hoping to prove they have the leg strength and accuracy worthy of earning an invite to an NFL training camp. St. Louis Rams kicker Greg Zuerlein participated in a regional combine last year before he was drafted and morphed into 'Legatron.' Silberman won't be kicking against the best of the sure-footed prospects, but there will be talent there regardless. The regional combines debuted in 2011 and feature players who weren't among the 333 invited to the main combine in Indianapolis. The league is holding these sessions in 10 cities this season, with the most impressive players advancing to a super-regional in April in Dallas. It's sort of the sports version of a TV reality show, where each hit and tackle can wow a scout and move a player on to the next round. Only instead of a recording contract, it's an NFL one.