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BS: NFL 2012/13

gnu 29 Oct 12 - 04:55 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 29 Oct 12 - 04:55 PM

Dave... good time?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 29 Oct 12 - 09:07 PM

Great time, gnu. Lot more Rams jerseys than I expected, but Most looked as if they'd been bought on the way into the stadium. Brady jerseys everywhere, and I did see one Grogan, but no Tony Easons (surprise, surprise). My seat was a lot further back than I expected, but the new Wembley has great sightlines, even from the top. I wish the NFL still printed the officials names in the programme - I recognised the ref but couldn't remember his name! Had a great view of the Belly's bald patch once I'd identified him - I didn't realise that all the Pats' coaches wore hoodies! Hardly any British jerseys nowadays. Back in the days of the American Bowl you used to see them all, and I remember seeing the Ravens' squad with Ario Cruz (Ravens quarterback) complaining of 60 odd unanswered points in the playoffs. I wish I had a Ravens jersey, especially if I go to the Pittsburgh game next year (my son prefers the 9ers!). Now trying to catch up on the weekend's action - so far I've watched one and a half games of Rugby Union, and found a site which carries the Shinty/Hurling international - Radio Alba only did it live, but it seems to be available on TG4, and I understand even less Irish than I do Gaelic! And now I'm going to put MNF on my hard disc!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Oct 12 - 12:45 AM

Wonderful!!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Elmore
Date: 30 Oct 12 - 09:50 AM

The Pats-Rams gane was a yawn, but as a Patriots fan that was fine with me.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Elmore
Date: 30 Oct 12 - 09:53 AM

Gane? What's a gane? I meant game. Sorry.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 02 Nov 12 - 03:05 PM

Dave... I echo JtS! Makes me warm and fuzzy to hear you enjoyed the game. I did too. Kept looking to see you wave to us over the pond but musta missed ya during beer breaks.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Nov 12 - 11:14 PM

RG3 Vs the Camster Sunday. considering the defenses of theses teams. should be a slugfest!! I think the Panthers will win their second in a slugfest.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 03 Nov 12 - 04:44 AM

I'd have waved, but I was tucked up almost in the rafters, so the cameras were never on me. Still got 10 minutes of the MNF game to watch - makes the Rams/Pats game look comparatively close!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Nov 12 - 11:38 PM

So tell me again why Alex Smith is a starting Quarterback? lol


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 03:09 AM

Not this week he ain't. Just started to watch the MNF game. Neither the Bears nor the Niners have their strating Quarterback fit.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 02:28 PM

But at least on this showing, the Niners' back-up CAN play.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 21 Nov 12 - 02:38 AM

Seeing The Gronk out for 4 to 6 (6, I hope) weeks makes me a tad edgy for my Pats.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 22 Nov 12 - 04:43 PM

Muat be Thanksgiving. Detroit have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Nov 12 - 05:38 PM

Hernandez is back though. Brady against Sanchez/Tebow? They should win this one!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 22 Nov 12 - 05:46 PM

Detroit desrved that. Run on 2 and 3 down straight up the middle? And LOSE yardage? WTF?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 22 Nov 12 - 06:46 PM

Skins v Boys now. Looks like Tony Romo's in trouble - somebody must have left the headlights on


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 06:08 AM

Most impressive for me yesterday was watching Stafford's throwing arm. Witch the exception of several inaccurate passes late in the game, his ability to zip it with minimal cocking and, even moreso, his ability to sling it, ala Elway style and even almost underhand, was like watching poetry in motion. I was truly entertained by watching such an arm!

Yes, RG3 was impressive as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Elmore
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 08:33 AM

Gnu: Still edgy about the Pats? I was, but got over it last night.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 10:14 AM

The headlines on NFL.com

Men against boys.

Patriots vs Jets, no longer a rivalry.

and my favorite...

Bullies!!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 12:11 PM

Nervous over the Jets? Hahahaa.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 01:32 PM

"Seeing The Gronk out for 4 to 6 (6, I hope) weeks makes me a tad edgy for my Pats."

So "edgy" is OK and nervous is "ha ha."

LOL!!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 07:36 PM

JtS... we're talkin the Jets, right? Who needs The Gronk to smack the Jets? Fuck... I coulda ran patterns... well... walked em fast if I got a smoke break now and then... same result.

OH ME NERVES!

NF joke.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 07:54 PM

I loved watching the Redskins beat the Cowboys in Dallas yesterday... I hate the Cowboys team... I don't much care for their owner either... Of course, I ain't wild about the Redskin's owner, Dan Snyder, either...

RGIII was the shits last night... 4 touchdown passes after throwing 4 against Philly last week...

It's more fun being a 'Skins fan this year...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 08:40 PM

Bobert! Do you hate the Cowboys for the same reason as me? With me, same as for the Raiders... dirty, dirty, dirty football years ago. Nasty bastards! Cheat as much as possible and simply maim and injure. Kinda like, but not as bad as, Philly in the NHL years back. I gave up on watching hockey and I am a CANUCK! I am serious. Grew up with a Sherwood in my hands but I can't watch NHL hockey except for the semis and on if there is a Canuck team in it. International hockey? Love it. Flyers? They can go take a flyin **** along with the Cowboys and the Raiders.

Save Howie Long, of course. When yer that big and strong and talented ya don't gotta play dirty, ya just gitta suit up.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 08:55 PM

No, gn-ze... I hate the Raiders for the same reason you hate them... I hate the Cowboys because they are arrogant and call themselves "America's Team"...

I like Howie, too...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 10:47 PM

Yeah, Howie is a cool guy. "Gentle giant" comes to mind. Gentleman on and off the field. But, I still wouldn't wanna run across the middle if he dropped back. I'd rather be hit by Ronnie Lott!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 11:09 PM

I was a Cowboys fan from 1978 to 2010. They never had a dirty defense. On the other hand the Raiders bragged about being dirty.

I am no better off with the Panthers than the cowboys, except that the Panthers are genuinely rebuilding while the Cowboys underperform. and the Panthers are in Charlotte and their games are always shown here.

Jerry Jones, on the other hand is the worst owner ever because he fired one of the best pro coach/general manager ever, Jimmy Johnson, then replace the GM with a very very poor GM, himself.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 03:35 AM

Is Jerry Jones turning into the new Al Davis?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 07:19 AM

Maybe not on the line, JtS... I do recall enjoying watching the front line and the "four" were massive. BIG, fat guys that could still move fast. But, I saw a lot of chop blocks outside of them and late hits in the secondary. Now, fact is I never saw a LOT of their games until late season. I'll bet you are far more knowledgible than I.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 09:11 AM

Al Davis was very good for a long time. Jones is nothing without Johnson.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 25 Nov 12 - 06:58 AM

I read a lot about Johnson and his career and admired him all the more for it. He paid a heavy personal price for his dedication which some may disagree with but he did it knowingly and accepted the consequences. In my opinion, football IS guys like him.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Nov 12 - 09:22 AM

Yeah.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 08:05 PM

WOW STEELERS!!

Charlie Batch???

Woo Hoo!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 08:07 PM

Peyton Who???

Indy is LUCKy Town now!!


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 07:15 PM

I mentioned Jerry Jones above as the new Al Davis, and I was thinking that Jason Garrett might be a better Head Coach with a different GM. Think of all the ex Raiders coaches who have picked up Superbowl rings in their subsequent careers. I also don't agree with Troy Aikman's (reported) opinion that Tony Romo is a better quarterback than he was.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 07:59 PM

He's gotta say that, if ONLY to be a gentleman, JtS. And, some of the shit he said yesterday in his commentary was inane. I hope he doesn't have the brain injury demonstrated over the past few years by Phil Simms... that guy drives me nuts at times and I myself am not all that "bright" anymore for a few health reasons.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 11:30 PM

Wow, Romo vs Aikman?

I've watch both play for years. Romo is more mobile and certainly throws better on the run than Troy did. I think he also has a better arm for long passes. But then, with Dez, Miles and Whitten, I think he has more targets and a better receiving corps than Troy did. Aikman stayed in the pocket longer, Was much more accurate under pressure than Tony and had as much poise under pressure as any QB as I have ever seen. He and Michael Irvin were magic together.

Antonio Ramiro "Tony" Romo (born April 21, 1980) is a professional American football quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys of the NFL. Romo went undrafted in 2003 after playing college football at Eastern Illinois and signed as a free agent with the Dallas Cowboys.

In their primes I would way rather have Aikman, who was a Number one draft pick. So obviously NFL scouts and general managers thought the same.

I am not the judge of QB play that Troy Aikman is. But I think he is very wrong on this one. I think that so far, the only two QBs in the League currently on a par with him are Brady and Peyton Manning. Though Big Ben and other Manning aren't far behind. I think Rogers, Stafford and the rest of the premier QB's safe in their jobs have a ways to go and Romo is not on a par with them.

Look at it this way, How many teams would trade their starting QB, one for one for Romo? 5-6 maybe. How many for Brady or Aikman in his prime? 25?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 10:18 PM

HOW ABOUT THAT CAM NEWTON??

Seriously in a bad year, beating the dirty birds in this one is a Sunday treat!

How about Adrien Peterson and Calvin Johnson heading for record breaking years? Awesome about AP coming off surgery and in a league that no longer favors runners.

Fun year for football. Look at all those great rookie QB's. RG3 needs to look after himself better though.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 10:28 PM

Yup.

One question. Will the entire coaching staff of the Steelers be fired this week? If not, I know the reason. I am not the owner.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 03:38 AM

The same Steelers who have had many serious injuries this year including their best offensive and defensive players and a head coach with 2 Superbowls in three appearances?

I would say they won't be firing him so the Patriots won't snatch him up ;-)

Or at least the Browns, Bengals or Ravens.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: olddude
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 09:22 AM

It all turned to shit , right before my vary eyes yesterday. Other than the Packers ... wow ... suckage


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 11:38 PM

I guess the pundits might stop saying the Texans are the best in the league?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: olddude
Date: 11 Dec 12 - 09:28 AM

Packers and Pats in the superbowl this year my guess


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: GUEST, David E.
Date: 11 Dec 12 - 05:24 PM

Patriots, Ravens, Packers, Giants, Niners.... any of them are better teams than either the Texans or Falcons. Records don't mean much at this time of the season.

David E.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 11 Dec 12 - 05:53 PM

Wellll... what was all that shit on the NFL talk shows on Sunday about the Pats and the Texans? Advertisement? Boosting the ratings? I knew it was gonna be a dressing down, hands down. Made a few bucks on it, too. Didn't know it was gonna be embarassing, of course, but that crap on Sunday was just sad. To be expected I guess. Salesman's puffing is legal.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 11 Dec 12 - 06:32 PM

Know what you mean, gnu. The greatest ever MNF game?


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: gnu
Date: 11 Dec 12 - 10:27 PM

Dunno if it was... no! My fav was NOT MNF... Buffalo comeback with the Oilers. Family get together so it was a Sunday. My BiL was laffing and I said it wasn't over and that the Bills would come back. He offered a bet of my coosing. I said a buck. Won a buck. What a great game.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Dec 12 - 10:57 PM

We might get a clearer picture the playoff & super bowl contenders this Sunday.

Falcons have a chance to show some balls and put the defending champs behind Washington in the playoff hunt. It would be interesting to see RG3 in the playoffs. And with the Giants out Atlanta's chances look better. If the Giants stomp Atlanta like they did Green Bay, I'd pick them in the AFC.

Is Indy for real? If they beat the Texans look out! But Texan seen on the decline.

I can see one of this year's crop of rookies possibly making a playoff run. Wilson's got a great D and Washington has those two great rookies on offense.

Ravens, Steelers seem to have too many injuries.

Oh yeah and there's Peyton and a pretty good D.

Packers Bears? I like the Packers. But the Giants sure handled them. I'll bet Aaron Roger is rooting for Atlanta.

So far I would pick Niners-Pats as the two best teams. But we will know a lot more about their relative strengths after this weekend.

Gnu, I am surprised that you and Raptor are not talking trash about this one. It is the most interesting match-up to me so far this year.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 09:17 PM

Niners look really really good. Will they play the dirty birds in the NFC championship?

Steelers have a tough row to hoe Olddude.


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Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2012/13
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 09:18 PM

The Broncos seem to be the best in the AFC. Brady vs Manning in the AFC championship. Where have I heard that tune before?


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