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I Don't Much Care For Rap & Hip Hop

Beer 22 Mar 12 - 10:28 PM
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Subject: I Don't Much Care For Rap & Hip Hop
From: Beer
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 10:28 PM

or Hip Hop but this is vbery wron.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1150656--want-a-liquor-licence-ban-rap-and-hip-hop-first-quebec-bar-told?bn=1


Ad.
I fixed the link. (It was an e-mail link.)


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Subject: RE: I Don't Much Care For Rap & Hip Hop
From: Beer
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 10:29 PM

Very wrong.


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Subject: RE: I Don't Much Care For Rap & Hip Hop
From: GUEST,999
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 10:45 PM

Link wouldn't work for me, Ad. Here's the article, and yes, it is very wrong.

Andy Blatchford
The Canadian Press

MONTREAL—The new operators of a suburban Montreal bar promise to showcase the big hair of 1980s tribute bands, stacks of jumbo chicken wings and, perhaps, even a mechanical bull.

But to ensure the watering hole could add the critical component of booze to that list they had to promise to do away with one thing: live hip-hop and rap performances.

Quebec's liquor-control board told the incoming managers of Le Pionnier, or The Pioneer, to outlaw the two music genres if they wanted any hope of acquiring a licence to serve booze.

An anti-racism group says the move smacks of discrimination against black people and a Facebook page is calling for a boycott of the bar. But the venue's co-owner, who took over the bar last fall, said she had no choice but to agree because the joint needs to serve suds to survive.

"My first reaction was (that) it's very discriminatory," said Diane Marois, who co-owns the bar with her husband, Ron Bracken.

"I don't think it's right in the first place, but... I'd rather be up and running with a limited venue as opposed to being closed."

A spokeswoman for the liquor board said it's "normal" in Quebec for permit applications to include conditions that forbid specific types of musical acts, like hip hop or rap.

In the case of Le Pionnier, Joyce Tremblay said local police asked the regulator to include a clause that called for a ban of live hip-hop and rap performances.

She did not have a problem with the condition when asked whether it was a form of discrimination to single out a specific type of music.

"Not at all," said the board's Tremblay who, when pressed on the subject, referred any further questions to local police.

"We are the guardians of the permits — a permit is not a right, it's a privilege."

Montreal police were not immediately available to respond to an interview request to discuss the matter.

Marois said police first expressed concerns about gang activity to her when she booked a well-known hip-hop artist to perform at Le Pionnier in late January.

"We saw no problem in it," said Marois, adding the local performer has a good image. "Apparently, the problem was that (performer) also promotes newer bands, and one of his newer bands was the root of all evil."

Marois said the regulator revoked the bar's licence, telling them they did not have a valid permit. At the time, she was in the process of transferring the liquor permit from the venue's previous licence holder.

Le Pionnier has since obtained a temporary licence and began serving alcohol on Thursday for the first time in two months.


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Subject: RE: I Don't Much Care For Rap & Hip Hop
From: Beer
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 11:11 PM

I am totally awed by this ruling. How backward can we get.


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Subject: RE: I Don't Much Care For Rap & Hip Hop
From: Beer
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 11:12 PM

Weard.... The link when i click on it works.


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Subject: RE: I Don't Much Care For Rap & Hip Hop
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 11:17 PM

For me too.


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Subject: RE: I Don't Much Care For Rap & Hip Hop
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 11:54 PM

Strange rule it would seem indeed, but what is racist about it is rather subjective. I am no purist but I find profanity laced rap playing loudly from passing cars offending enough. If I lived in the neighbourhood of that bar I may have the same concern. All rap of course is not so bad but some of it is with mother-fu#@er or somesuch in every second line. I love "black" music and I could listen to Satchmo, Ray Charles, or John Hurt all day but rap invades my space.
As for hip-hop I don't know what the problem is.


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Subject: RE: I Don't Much Care For Rap & Hip Hop
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 01:57 AM

Now some culture cop is going to have to draw a line on a continuum of styles and say "this side of the line is rap but this side of the line is pop". It's like the distinction between pornography and erotica—bureaucrats shouldn't be empowered to make aesthetic decisions. There can't be a building code for art.


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