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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: foggers Date: 09 Aug 12 - 01:20 PM Tim Leaning how very DARE you even suggest that we were intent (arf!) on thieving when we were wrestling with Nick's tent against the wind. It was interesting to note that twas myself and the esteemed Burton Coggles (aka Pete) who revealed our boy scout hoarding tendencies by immediately brandishing our all-purpose bags of tent repair gear, such as duct tape, spare guy rope and pegs. In fact as I think about it now, we probably had enough spare kit to build new awnings for all, so we did not really need to attempt to steal Nick's for that purpose in thefirst place. And Nick himself is being v modest: he did a lot of running around to both set things up and to return stuff afterwards (how many tables CAN one man fit into a Berlingo??) |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Mr Happy Date: 09 Aug 12 - 07:02 AM http://www.facebook.com/events/343014769107255/ |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Tim Leaning Date: 09 Aug 12 - 06:18 AM They weren't rescuing it they were stealing it then you woke up.. If you hadn't we would all have gotten new awnings mate...:) |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST,Nick Date: 08 Aug 12 - 01:18 PM Hi one and all Just say that I thoroughly enjoyed the whole Roxby event. Carl and his family provided a wonderful welcome to everyone attending and kept the beer flowing throughout. It was an experience camping and I have to thank Scrapyard Guitar and the Foggers and Pete & Ellen Gostelow for trying to rescue my tent. It was great to catch up with so many people including Ian Kieron and Craig among many others. Truly a great event! Nick |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST,Nick Date: 08 Aug 12 - 01:02 PM |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST Date: 07 Aug 12 - 11:36 AM Tony , a great time however brief my visit Many thanks always good to see you. Trevor |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: muppett Date: 07 Aug 12 - 10:59 AM Hiya, Sounds like it were a reight good do, well done to all involved, Sorry I didn't make it, was in need of some rest after me 200 mile wandering, nether mind let me know if it happens in 2013. Appen I'll see some of you in Whitby over the festival week. Cheers Muppett |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Mr Happy Date: 07 Aug 12 - 04:51 AM Once again, on behalf of myself & everybody in the Chester & North Wales delegation, many congratulations to Tony et al for a fantastic experience in the far east at the seaside! Watching this space in eager anticipation for any extra do's which may be in the pipeline! |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Tim Leaning Date: 06 Aug 12 - 04:15 AM We (Jen and I) were talking about that when we got back from this one... The only down side for us ..is ..as ever.. having it coincide with a weekend off.. it would be excellent to do it again.. |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Mavis Enderby Date: 06 Aug 12 - 03:57 AM Tim, wondering if we should have a mini-gathering before next year...? |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST,Tony Date: 06 Aug 12 - 02:53 AM That seems to be the right poit to draw a line under this. Pete I would be grateful if you can let me know how/When i can move to the level above relativley new to folk. Breif CV 1967 Introduced to live folk in the Royal ,Runswick bay. 1973 Was at the opening night at the pied piper Osmotherly and attended nearly every week for years,........been to a million festivals and been active commitee member for both sides the tweed,Denholm, and Newcastleton.Festivals Did not play anything untill 1999. Since 2000 Have organised concerts, hiring fairs,monthly busking sessions and weekly open mics and 9 local festivals in six local venues. Thanks to all who have given so much help. So many people i cannot name them all here. Thanks to every one for comments and contributions, for and against. It all helps to form the shape of the next event. Thanks Tony |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Betsy Date: 05 Aug 12 - 08:36 PM All's well that ends resonably well. Tony, your assertion 04 Aug 12 - 11:30 PM, that I "seem to be hanging on to this folk politics thing...." is not justified , and fortunately there appears to be no need to pursue this issue, as you have accepted and explained in your post 05 Aug 12 - 07:51 AM that most of the problems did actually exist,for one reason or another. You are a relatively new-comer to Folk music, and I'm afraid that many folkies from Penzance to Thurso ([only] geographically folks!!!) have stories of how local folk "politics" can screw-up a local folk scene. Best of luck to Roxby and to all who work hard to provide good quality mini (and the big) Festivals and gatherings. Cheers Betsy. |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Tim Leaning Date: 05 Aug 12 - 05:07 PM Can I book that banjo master class for next time? |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST,foggers Date: 05 Aug 12 - 05:01 PM Hi; as non locals we had no knowledge of the "local politics" and it is to the credit of Tony and other LAMP folks that no "dirt" was dished to punters like us. The information in this thread enabled us to deduce that the event had previously been held at Staithes, had moved to Roxby and that the original Staithes venue was holding an event on the same weekend. It was not confusing in the least and several attenders at Roxby (ourselves included) did travel into the Cook at Staithes but found that little was happening. The Roxby gathering was super and we shall certainly support it again. |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST,Tony Date: 05 Aug 12 - 07:51 AM Fair point Pete. When it was made clear to me that the festival could not be run at Staithes I sent an email to the festival mailing list which started............ Saddly it is no longer possable to run the 5 day music festival at Staithes ............the Good news is we have found a venue at Roxby ,just two miles inland. The fox Inn has a camping field next to the pub etc. I thought that was enough explanation as punters are not interested in why some thing is no longer working, just need to know what is working With hind site I should have started all correspondence with those setances.I have gone beyond the call of duty trying to keep the Staithes pub open but the new management made it impossable. You can throw a lifebelt to a drowning man(pub)If he chooses to swim away from the life belt there is not much you can do about it. If you look at the Staithes fest on mudcat you will see that there was no fsetival. I belive the dates were advertised just to undermine Roxby. The details of the problems are not for this site.....dirty linen etc. If you knew what had gone on i am sure you would agree i had no alternative other than find a new venue. If you want the details i will go through it with you when we next meet. As for the Vin Session i did not mention Thursday. What it says is a festival Launch on TUESDAY 24th. There were enough early arrivals to fill the room and have a good session which you could have joined in. Monday was more of a social with Vin.If you had been there it would probably have taken off even more. Cheers Tony |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Betsy Date: 05 Aug 12 - 06:32 AM I say power to your elbow Tony in your efforts to build up Roxby , but the point I was making is that the Staithes "do" with which you have always organised, was running at the same time. However delicate the matter , a little explanation from you that the two events were not connected, especially to those who were travelling from afar , would have assited those ( and there were people) confused by this arrangement and avoided some inconvenience. The point is - Locals knew the politic of it all - but folk travelling to the area weren't so well informed. On Thursday 26th July Vin was playing at Warwick, on the 27th at Thames Ditton , stayed down South on the 28th and when I talked to him on the 29th on his way home, he was worn / bad chest and wouldn't be attending on the Sunday ,though he might be popping over on Monday, so I'm at a loss as how I could have been " in to the sessions with Vin " as you state in you message. |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST,Tony Date: 04 Aug 12 - 11:30 PM Re Betsy/ Vin Vin was with me in March when we visited Carl,the new landlord for the first time in March.He promised to come to the festival when bookings allow. When Vin's bookings down south were confirmed he offered to join us on the only dates available to him. This took shape in the form of a festival launch session with the many early arrivals to the festival camp site on Tuesday 24th July.This was the same time the photos were taken by John Stockwell. On his return from the southern gigs Vin,Pat and two friends joined the festival survivors at the Fox on Monday 30th. Pete, you still seem to be hanging on to this folk politics thing even though i have explained the reason behind the move, mostly cmping problems. If you had got to Roxby (as i had hoped) you would have seen the numbers on the camp site would have filled the Staithes site at least three times. I am sure you would have been in to the sessions with Vin ,Marie Little and the many other talented musicians at Roxby. Thanks Tony |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST Date: 04 Aug 12 - 11:00 PM Re Loius Spence/ dogs Louis is a great entertainer who always lifts any session, with the ability to pull a singaround together. As a man who I have a great deal of respect for and who gave so much help and support when I first bought a guitar and tried to play at Whitby a long time ago, I can honestly say that to upset him in this way is the last thing in the world I intended. This all came about due to one ill informed posting by Dani.The first few lines of my answer to Dani have proved to be painfully true. My full respose to Dani on a posting on 2nd April was:- Ref dog posting by Dani:- This is the sort of thing that causes a lot of confusion, bad feeling, and time wasting. The blurb was carefully put together and proof read by all parties who have a responsibility to the successfull running of this festival. The blurb is correct and will be circulated in it's present form and content. The land lord may accept dogs out side of the festival. The pub is not big enough to accommodate the expected number of folkies and dogs. As the organiser trying to bring together all the elements of a successful festival , I have to comply with a number of different requirements from a lot of people. The agenda cannot be re-written by any single contributor. I will make this as clear as I can. The info posted on mud cat by Tim Leaning was agreed to by ALL concerned. The setting is in open farm land. ALL the info is correct but just in case there are any lingering doubt, Dogs are NOT allowed, This includes good dogs, small dogs,well trained dogs , quiet dogs, old dogs ,dogs who won't be any bother,dogs who's owners clean up after them . In fact as the info sheet says. NO DOGS. Any one turning up with a dog or dogs, no matter what reason, will be refused admission. Hope this is clear enough Tony |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Scrapyard Guitar Date: 01 Aug 12 - 06:44 PM Such a wide range of music, a fine collection of people, a brilliant pub and landlord, what a view and the best 5 days (extended to 8 days) I've had in a long time. To everyone who got involved in the blues inprovs last thing Sunday night... thanks for the memory! |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Mr Happy Date: 01 Aug 12 - 09:38 AM Where? |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Tim Leaning Date: 01 Aug 12 - 08:05 AM there was a choir ? |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST Date: 01 Aug 12 - 07:53 AM Gurning whilst in charge of a VW camper could get points on your licence Mr Coggles. We stayed on in order to help Carl the landlord with the surplus of Black Sheep. |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Mavis Enderby Date: 31 Jul 12 - 03:42 PM Can't tear yourself away Foggers? Tell t'other half that the A1 between Newark & P'Boro has been subjected to my gurning and almost audible overtones today. But mainly gurning. Managed to concentrate on driving but remembering to breathe too is difficult! Thanks again! |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST,foggers Date: 31 Jul 12 - 03:18 PM Super event all round; thanks to all who made it happen. We are still at the Fox and bookings are already being made for next year. Book early to avoid disappointment! |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Tim Leaning Date: 31 Jul 12 - 03:06 PM please tell her she is most welcome mate big thanks to everyone who went and played or sang or played and sang.. from us it would have been a nice pub with a decent campsite with great views....... but very quiet without you all. And now we are having a minutes silence to mark the sad demise of our last peice of Lemon Cake,,,:( |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Mavis Enderby Date: 31 Jul 12 - 02:49 PM Enjoyed. Thoroughly. More! ...and many many thanks to everyone who made it possible. |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Mr Happy Date: 31 Jul 12 - 11:03 AM Tim, 'IF they could build a rubber pub.....' Rubber dub-dub, 3 men in a pub! Thankyou for the music, 'er indoors delighted! |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Mr Happy Date: 30 Jul 12 - 09:26 AM Here's example of the kind of mouth music the didgeridoo man did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zZainT9v6Q&feature=related |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Mr Happy Date: 30 Jul 12 - 08:09 AM Pressed post to soon. Other unbelievable contributions, the lad who played the middle eastern tambourine & the family trio of mandolin, guitar & melodeon. Hoping to meet all again at next do. |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Mr Happy Date: 30 Jul 12 - 08:05 AM To Very astute of you to fix the weather so we didn't get wet while outside!! The campsite was great, plenty of room for all & the landlord & his staff very welcoming. Good idea overspill campsite/ carpark in adjoining field. ************ Some highlights during our 4 day stay were, of course the superb seshes in pub & barn & also individual performers we enjoyed. The chap who did 'Ghost Chickens in the sky' & the guy with the didgeridoo with his astonishing Mongolian mouth music! So many talented singers & musicians there, too numerous to thank individually. Looking forward seeing snaps/videos. Cheers to all!! |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Tim Leaning Date: 29 Jul 12 - 06:22 PM Just noticed the dog bit.. Did see a cute little dog with a sort of tuft on the end of its tail ? ..also saw Tony with shovel removing a big...ish dollop of what looked like dog shite from the area of the camp in which my grand daughter and quite a few other kids were playing.... I am sorry you decided to take the one post arguing that dogs were allowed against the official handout type thingy that was in the first post and developed further by Tony after the post by Guest Dani.. Hope you found a place for you and yours that was better suited to your party... The Landlord does allow dogs in his pub and has a static caravan which is used by people with dogs...HE has dogs himself.. The No dogs thing was for the duration of the music festival.. As a (dog less) dog lover I would have to say it was on the whole in my opinion the right way to go... |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Tim Leaning Date: 29 Jul 12 - 05:47 PM Phew that was a weekend and a half.. Didn't hear any music I didn't enjoy... lots I didn't know but that is what i liked about this gathering.. Thanks to all who came and gave our ears a good seeing too and for tolerating some of us who tried to join in.. IF they could build a rubber pub that would grow extra rooms on demand I could see a good use for it fitting in all of you lovely lot.. |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: The Sandman Date: 29 Jul 12 - 05:40 PM guestjim, are you from Barking? or close to Barking |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: The Sandman Date: 29 Jul 12 - 04:35 PM not unless it was a hot dog, preferably well curried |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST,guest jim Date: 29 Jul 12 - 03:43 PM Was food been served in the pub if so it becomes a health issue i personally would not want to eat lunch with somebodys dog sat next to me no way.. |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST,Guest Betsy Date: 29 Jul 12 - 03:34 PM Mr Happy gave a link above which bounced to a Facebook thingy where John Stockwell (I understand)posted pictures of Vin which suggested Vin was at Roxby this weekend - which he wasn't - he was down South performing. Just to let you know you didn't miss him performing. On the "other matter" the opening thread is fairly comprhensive and states " No dogs and no Fires allowed anywhere on the camp site" so it's a bit difficult to argue . |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: The Sandman Date: 29 Jul 12 - 11:42 AM That first post said, No dogs and no Fires allowed anywhere on the camp site. Is the pub on the camp site? |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: OlgaJ Date: 29 Jul 12 - 10:15 AM Thanks to everyone who helped to make this a brilliant little festival. We thouroughly enjoyed all of it. Just a couple of very small issues that I hope no-one takes offence at: Its in a pub so we've got to expect pub type people to be in there. Sing louder or encourage people to listen by starting off loud and quietening down so they have to listen if they decide they want to hear you (this usually works quite well in a noisy environment). At the end of the day we are invading their space but if we want people to get into folk music, especially younger people, we've got to take it to them rather than singing exclusively to each other (preaching to the converted). Polite reminder about session etiquette: If someone appears to be in charge ask what sort of session it is - going round the room or jumping in when there is a break in the music - some people need a second or two to organise themselves. Don't push past people when they are playing guitars etc. just because you've spotted the one seat that appears to be available. It will still be there when the singer has finished. The number of people in the sessions we went to this weekend meant that the only way to be fair to everyone was to do a going round the room thing. As for dogs its always a difficult issue to deal with. In my limited experience its the owners of some dogs at festivals that spoil things for everyone by letting their dogs run free and cause problems for everyone. If you've slept in a tent that dogs have peed up (its never just one because they follow each other about) it is not a pleasant experience. If everyone tied their animals up on a short lead and exercised them off the field there would probably be less festivals banning them completely as this one chose to do. More than one dog in a session can be a nightmare and if you let one in you could end up with as many dogs as people. At the end of the day its the organisers call as to whether to allow dogs or not and it was made very clear in the original post what the policy was to be. As I said, we have had a great few days and met some lovely people. Hope to see some of you somewhere very soon. Olga |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST,Nick Date: 29 Jul 12 - 07:37 AM Just to say an enormous thank to all those who came to the first Roxby Aoustic Music Festival. A great turnout and it has been nice to catch up with old friends and meet new people. Last day today but I hope it goes out with a bang! Thanks, also, to Tony Leonard who has worked very hard to get this event going. I hope it goes form strength to strength! |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST Date: 29 Jul 12 - 06:21 AM Excuse me it is not that I was 'looking for something I wanted'. Do you seriously believe I would have talked my missus into coming, plus dog, had I known that dogs were not welcome? I really do have better things to do with my time. Credit me please with some intelligence. I merely scanned the website where I saw a post saying 'The landlord says Dogs are welcome.' I am not going to read through every post on every website I ever consulted. I have supported Tony Leonard before and been to many festivals where dogs are welcome. And I believe they are at Staithes even now. Quite how the management align 'No dogs allowed ' with their massive sign saying the total opposite is quite beyond reasonable judgement. Would they then have refused a genuine hiker c/w dog who just turned up? Don't answer that - I feel I already know The place was three quarters empty so just what difference our little party would have made, apart from adding entertainment (consult Tony Leonard on that one) I fail to grasp. On arrival at the site I told Tony I would enquire at the pub if they would accept our company which he acquiesced with. The management said no. End of really. Now put yourself in my shoes. We made the genuine mistake of turning up and had gone to some bother to do so, not least driving the 25 miles to support an old friend's do. We were summarily dismissed If you are happy with the treatment we received that is your choice. I thought it was pathetic quite frankly and not at all in keeping with what I would consider a kind and measured response to a polite request. And life goes on. Roll on Whitby. Love to all. Louis Spence |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: JHW Date: 29 Jul 12 - 05:18 AM Guest Louis Spence Alas it is a feature of the net that you can find any answer you want. The difficulty can be picking the right one. The very first post here said 'no dogs' and elsewhere Tony the organiser was emphatic that for THIS EVENT NO DOGS. "The land lord may accept dogs out side of the festival. The pub is not big enough to accommodate the expected number of folkies and dogs." "just in case there are any lingering doubt, Dogs are NOT allowed, This includes good dogs, small dogs, well trained dogs, quiet dogs, old dogs, dogs who won't be any bother, dogs who's owners clean up after them. In fact as the info sheet says. NO DOGS. Any one turning up with a dog or dogs, no matter what reason, will be refused admission. Hope this is clear enough Tony" |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST Date: 29 Jul 12 - 04:37 AM Answer to Raggytash. Yep, same pub. There's hardly a glut of pubs down that B road is there? That one with sign outside, Dogs and Hikers welcome. Three rooms, there were about twenty people having a good old In My Liverpool Home singaround, all in one room. I realise now of course that me and me missus and our little Lhasa Apso would have filled the pub to overflowing had we been allowed to enter the hallowed ground. . Nice to see the celebrated camaraderie of folk gatherings is alive and well and flourishing in Roxby. Roll on Whitby Folk Festival. Love to all. |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST,Raggytash Date: 28 Jul 12 - 02:13 PM I went up this afternoon, had a great time, some great singing and a very welcoming atmosphere, I didn't see a sign about dogs so can't comment on that, other than to say ....... were you at the same pub? |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: The Sandman Date: 27 Jul 12 - 04:00 PM sounds like a dogs breakfast |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: GUEST,Louis Spence Date: 27 Jul 12 - 01:48 PM I read on this site a post saying, 'The Landlord says Dogs are welcome'. The outside signage on the pub says DOGS WELCOME. So my wife and I and dog and guitar and harmonicas drove 25 miles to support this festival today. Politely requested at the bar if our dog was welcome. Was told emphatically No by a youn lad and an older lady. So we drove 25 miles back home. Thanks for the hospitality to all concerned - I will not bother again. A pox on 'em. . |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Mr Happy Date: 24 Jul 12 - 09:23 AM http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=hpskip#!/events/343014769107255/ |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Tim Leaning Date: 24 Jul 12 - 03:52 AM OK this event starts tomorrow... f you cant go well maybe some other time If you are going looking forward to hearing you Busy now so this thread wont be monitored any further please send your questions to Tony Leonard or you could try the event page on face book. CHeers and have a great week. |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Tim Leaning Date: 23 Jul 12 - 06:30 AM Hye that was 200 th post maybe someone can break it down statistically |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Tim Leaning Date: 23 Jul 12 - 05:41 AM Hey after a crash course idiots guide to working the washing machine I have nearly got all the laundry sorted out so that I can spend tomorrow packing stuff wrong... |
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Subject: RE: Music festival. Roxby, North, Yorkshire. From: Tim Leaning Date: 23 Jul 12 - 05:39 AM can you be tone deaf and play by ear? If you played With your ears I suppose some hearing impediment could arise.... |
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