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UK folk revival golden oldies.

alex s 26 Mar 12 - 09:33 AM
MGM·Lion 26 Mar 12 - 09:41 AM
MGM·Lion 26 Mar 12 - 10:22 AM
GUEST,Don Wise 26 Mar 12 - 11:08 AM
GUEST,Derek Schofield 26 Mar 12 - 11:30 AM
GUEST,loki 26 Mar 12 - 11:34 AM
Steve Gardham 26 Mar 12 - 12:04 PM
Tootler 26 Mar 12 - 02:30 PM
Big Al Whittle 26 Mar 12 - 02:40 PM
Owen Woodson 26 Mar 12 - 03:04 PM
John MacKenzie 26 Mar 12 - 03:10 PM
GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler 26 Mar 12 - 03:11 PM
Steve Parkes 26 Mar 12 - 04:02 PM
alex s 26 Mar 12 - 04:57 PM
Owen Woodson 27 Mar 12 - 06:34 AM
Dave Hanson 27 Mar 12 - 06:57 AM
GUEST,Derek Schofield 27 Mar 12 - 07:16 AM
Dave Sutherland 27 Mar 12 - 07:42 AM
theleveller 27 Mar 12 - 08:01 AM
Northerner 27 Mar 12 - 09:50 AM
Dave Hanson 27 Mar 12 - 10:41 AM
Mo the caller 27 Mar 12 - 11:50 AM
John MacKenzie 27 Mar 12 - 12:16 PM
Musket 27 Mar 12 - 12:26 PM
Tootler 27 Mar 12 - 06:08 PM
GUEST 28 Mar 12 - 06:38 PM
janemick 29 Mar 12 - 03:48 AM
GUEST,Don Wise 29 Mar 12 - 05:07 AM
banjoman 29 Mar 12 - 06:27 AM
GUEST,Pete 29 Mar 12 - 09:38 AM
Bert 29 Mar 12 - 03:08 PM
Dave Hanson 30 Mar 12 - 04:35 AM
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Subject: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: alex s
Date: 26 Mar 12 - 09:33 AM

Which songs do you remember from the "old days" which inspired you to keep going to folk clubs? (fashionable now or not)

Wild Rover
Banks of the Lee
Seth Davy
Dirty Old Town
The Old Dun Cow (caught fire)
Keep Yer Feet Still Geordie Hinny
Peggy Gordon
Herrin's Heed
When the Boat Comes In
Mingulay Boat Song
Trimdon Grange Explosion......


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Mar 12 - 09:41 AM

The Bonnie Lass Of Fyvie
Lord Gregory [sung by the great Seamus Ennis]
Four-Loom Weaver7uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

(Sorry ~~ the cat got on my keyboard! True!)6777777777777777777t


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Mar 12 - 10:22 AM

Eppie Moray
The Day We Went To Rothesay-O


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: GUEST,Don Wise
Date: 26 Mar 12 - 11:08 AM

Some of us started differently...........

This Land is Your Land
Reuben James
Scarborough Fair
The Wild Rover
The Marco Polo
I wish I was back in Liverpool
The leaving of Liverpool
The Times they are a'Changin'
My Name is Dick Darby, I'm a Cobbler.....


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield
Date: 26 Mar 12 - 11:30 AM

Depends which era of the "old days" you got involved in it all..... but the Spinners/Dubliners/Clancy Brothers/Joan Baez song books must surely have had their impacts in the 1965-70 period.....
Derek


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: GUEST,loki
Date: 26 Mar 12 - 11:34 AM

Fiddlers Green
Mormon Braes
Smugglers
Johnny Lad
Dowie Dens of Yarrow
Calton Weaver


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 26 Mar 12 - 12:04 PM

Everything the Watersons sang!


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Tootler
Date: 26 Mar 12 - 02:30 PM

Blowin' in the Wind
Last Thing on my Mind
Whiskey in the Jar

Everything on Robin Hall & Jimmie McGregor's album "Scottish Choice"


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 26 Mar 12 - 02:40 PM

All of those - but by far the best was The Cat got on my Keyboard. Who can forget that chorus:-
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ASDFG
HJKL
ZXC
VBNM
123

Happy faces round the campfire. Joy it was to be alive, but to be young in that bright dawn....


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Owen Woodson
Date: 26 Mar 12 - 03:04 PM

The Greenland Fishery
The Banks of Sweet Primroses
The Night Visiting Song
The Nightingale
The Shoals of Herring
The Gresford Disaster
The Blantyre Explosion
The Grey Cock
The Barnyards of Delgarty
Tramps and Hawkers
The Rocks of Bawn
Rap Her Tae Bank
Jowl and Listen Lad
Little Chance
Lord Franklin
Peggy and the Soldier
Go to Sea No More
and the best part of quite a lot of sea shanties


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Mar 12 - 03:10 PM

What do you mean "Old days"? I still sing at least 10 of the songs listed thus far :-)


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler
Date: 26 Mar 12 - 03:11 PM

Then there was (at The Lowther anyway) skiffle revival, Hey Jude and any song from "New Voices" that we could learn before the next person (baggy that!). I still sing things from "those days" and people still like them. Maybe they'v ehad so long a lay=off that they are likeable again - can we do the same with "Kum Baa Yaaa"?


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 26 Mar 12 - 04:02 PM

Several Music Hall songs in your list, Alex! They make up most of my repertoire these days.


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: alex s
Date: 26 Mar 12 - 04:57 PM

Steve - I used to play regularly in Balmbra's Music Hall in Newcastle in the 60s/70s. Good old songs.


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Owen Woodson
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 06:34 AM

I forgot the Jute Mill Song. Oh dear me. I forgot the Jute Mill Song


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 06:57 AM

These are the sort of songs at this moment of time being slagged of by Ian [ world music ] Anderson and his devotees on his website at fRoots. Personally I love 'em all.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 07:16 AM

Well, I think you'll find that the only 3 songs listed in this thread that have been listed in the fRoots discussion are Wild Rover, Old Dun Cow and Whiskey in the Jar. And as for "devotees" there are several people disagreeing with him. I'm with Andy Turner (on the fRoots discussion) - it's not the song necessarily, but the way it's sung. Seems that any song that involves clapping in the chorus is a no-no!! I don't think Ian would have any problems with the vast majority of songs listed here.
Derek


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 07:42 AM

"Paddy Lay Back" heard back in the summer of 1966 cemented my relationship with the folk clubs.


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: theleveller
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 08:01 AM

"Everything the Watersons sang!"

I agree with Steve. It was a seminal moment when, in 1964/5 (can't remember which) they came to the tiny East Yorkshire folk club I'd just started going to and sang songs like Three Score and Ten. It was a revelation that people sang like that and sang songs about our area. So that was what folk music was all about! Better yet, they were willing to talk at length to a young 15/16 year old about it - then and many more times after that.


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Northerner
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 09:50 AM

Interesting thread. I sang "Copper Kettle", which was sung by Joan Baez (among others) recently at a pub open mic and it was very well received. Favourite singers to inspire me when I was young were The Clancy Brothers (who I saw performing), Joan Baez, The Dubliners, The Spinners, Alex Campbell, and The Kingston Trio. Basically any folk material that I had heard of in my pre-folk club era. Interestingly my list also includes Jeannie Robertson, through my sister's LP of "Heather and Glen", which is now out on CD.

I did listen to folk on the radio though.


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 10:41 AM

No not exactly the same list of songs Derek but the same type, things that people enjoy joining in with, to me it's a form of snobbery, like some years ago some people thought they were being superior by knocking The Dubliners and Clancy Brothers etc.

I do agree with you to some extent about the performance aspect.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Mo the caller
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 11:50 AM

Well, you wouldn't want to go to a session where someone sang Wild Rover etc. etc. every week. And if you were getting ready to perform something you'd practised you wouldn't want some drunk insisting that you had to sing it.
But there are times when it is just right.

We sometimes go to a session in Audlem. One Boxing Day afternoon the pub was full and we 'played to the gallery' with a load of stuff people would know. The next Monday evening it was quiet and people tried out more unusual tunes and songs. Completely different, both enjoyable.

Same goes for tunes. A lot to be said for the ones everyone knows and can join in with. Mixed with some that you don't know but get under your skin after a few hearings.


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 12:16 PM

Singing the Wild Rover in certain venues, can lead to a £5 fine!


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Musket
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 12:26 PM

Jones's ale.
The knocker upper man
A man you don't meet every day
Pomona
Irish Rover
Manchester Rambler

And many more which were guaranteed to be sung on a singers' night in Worksop when I started going.


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Tootler
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 06:08 PM

If I can bring a smile to peoples faces by singing one of the aforementioned songs (which I have done), then I will sing it and sod Ian Anderson and his ilk.

The trouble is that are several songs that simply got overworked and people got fed up of them.

That said I do draw the line at melodeon playing sharks as the humour is more than a little worn out and I am pleased to say you don't hear it much now, though Pleasant and Delightful is quite regularly sung at one Folk Club I go to.


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Mar 12 - 06:38 PM

Any thing by The Watersons or Ewan McColl
Jug of Punch
Rose of Allendale
Spencer the Rover
The Recruited Collier
Black Velvet Band
and many more


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: janemick
Date: 29 Mar 12 - 03:48 AM

We sing Pleasant and Delightful here in Brittany, although I would hesitate to sing it in the UK. However, it is much appreciated and regularly requested, because it is such a fine song. Some of our French friends are now singing it too.


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: GUEST,Don Wise
Date: 29 Mar 12 - 05:07 AM

Good God-talk about long faded memories coming back up.........!

Re "The Wild Rover". Perhaps it ought to be made clear that it's THAT version (Clancy Brothers et al)that's being talked about. There are,of course, other and better versions available.


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: banjoman
Date: 29 Mar 12 - 06:27 AM

The hole in the Elephants Bottom (learned from Pete McGovern)
Anything by Tom Paxton
Loads of others


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: GUEST,Pete
Date: 29 Mar 12 - 09:38 AM

You keep singing 'em and we'll keep listening, and with a bit of luck some youngsters will learn them and still be singing them in forty more years. That's what the oral tradition means isn't it?


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Bert
Date: 29 Mar 12 - 03:08 PM

Loads of great songs above, I think that this thread is very close to providing the answer to the question "What is folk".

Lonnie Donnegan and The Spinners were most influential to me. It is a shame that you don't hear much of Lonnie these days, even though he sang a few folk songs.

Steve Parkes would you post a few song titles of the Music Hall songs that you are singing.


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 30 Mar 12 - 04:35 AM

Lonnie probably sang more traditional songs than most people are aware of, and pretty good too.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: bubblyrat
Date: 30 Mar 12 - 05:44 AM

I 'ad 'er, I 'ad 'er , I 'ad 'er', I 'ad 'er, I upped an' I showed 'er the way ( Peter Sellers)

But I doubt if it would be as funny today !

Sipping Cider Through A Straw ( Baron & Baroness Van Pallandt ) quirky !

The Golden Vanity ( Lonnie ) a personal favoutite Lonnie number


Little Boxes ( P Seeger) A timeless classic,and back with us in a TV advertisement , I see / hear.

Silver Dagger ( Joan Baez ) A great song to accompany in altered D

tuning ; I love it !

The White Rose of Athens ( Nana Mouskouri ) I never heard anyone else do it , not even George Papavgeris , but I love the tune, it's sooooo beautiful !


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Subject: RE: UK folk revival golden oldies.
From: Tootler
Date: 30 Mar 12 - 06:42 PM

I have just started a ukulele group for our local U3A. I have an electronic keyboard tutor which is proving an excellent source of simple arrangements that I can adapt for the group to use. It had the White Rose of Athens in it, so I copied it out, found the rest of the words and took it to last week's meeting and it went down a real treat. Simple three chord arrangement, attractive melody and words. It was a winner, they kept asking to play it again. (Sam? <g> )

Here is Nana Mouskouri Singing it.


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