 sj |
||
|
||
BS: Why closed threads?
|
|
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Max Date: 14 Apr 12 - 08:04 PM There is more for me to review before I fully engage this delightful conversation, but I just wanted to quickly remind all of you that we do not owe you an explanation. Or anything else for that matter. You see, what happens here, in most of these threads in questions, is a recreational activity known as rhetoric. One sees something on the news or pulls something right from their ass and declares "I contend that this is thus." not because they necessarily do believe that this is thus, but it marks the start of an instance of the game. Think high school debate class. I once successfully argued and won a debate FOR slavery. Please note that me being the better participant does not change the ethics or truth surrounding the issue of slavery. So when I am asked to give an explanation for why we do the things we do, I am hearing "Come play the game with us." Now, I am not saying that is what you did here John P, but it delights the players who ready to pick apart our words looking for inconsistencies and duplicity, weakness or other exploitation of policy for a forum built by a 23 year old kid about traditional music, not international politics. We simply don't have time to play. We're sorry. We are musicologists, enthusiasts, historians and folklorists trying to do research and provide accessibility and preservation here. We're NOT trained, educated, certified or qualified as ideologues, referees, debate coaches or forum moderators and we're doing the best we can towards a goal none of you are even considering. I actually specifically and strategically obfuscate our policies, finances, procedures, organization structure, tactics, goals and purpose, just so the players are not empowered to fight stupidly with their fine host. Since no one in their right mind would finance the BS section, it is provided as a luxury by me. I host it and pay for it and defend its existence from my own volunteers and mentors let alone members and guests. I was taught that folklore and tradition cannot be separated from the community in which it is shared, so the BS section was the host of the non-music portion of that community that could later be referenced for personality and perspectives archived in the music section. Hopefully I have lived a life, participated in my community and generally been visible enough so that if in 100 years someone stumbles over my successful bid for slavery, even though all those words they held in their hands expertly and positively stated such, there will be enough laying about that they'll know that I, me the person, the human being, did not WANT slavery to be allowed. However, as it is, fewer and fewer folks are agreeing with me about the BS section and Guest Posting, and I am losing patience myself. Folks like Bluesman are simply cheating at the game by being anonymous they have no accountability therefore anyone of any merit would disqualify every single one of his statements, yet I see fine fine people being worked into a frenzy and the whole lot of us being dragged through the mud for it. There are no consequences for an anonymous man to be wrong, or an idiot. Bluesman is playing a different game, however, he believes in nothing other than the opposite of what you most strongly do. So with no consequences to his person or reputation possible, he aggressively argues his side, for which we are clear by his anonymity that he is ashamed of. That is cowardice and its defense mechanism on display, for which I feel pathetic and experience pity rather than anger when he speaks. His aim is to make you be willing to publicly humiliate yourself, lose all candor, expose your dogma, be irrational, express anger so that you end up with equal and opposite extreme paths and viewpoints to his radical So, in summary, BS threads are a luxury not a right. They are provided and financed by me... you are welcome. We close them when we see something that concerns us. PERIOD. This is not a democracy, we will not open this for public debate. We are sure in our path and sure we are doing right because we are audited yearly by Karma Guard (tm). We have a well respected system of checks and balances and have scored "righteous" on each of the last 5 Karma Analysis with our policies and practices. That's the most we can offer you as reassurance that we are thoughtful, fair, up and up, not slanted, no favoritism, no cultural, political, religious or gender bias within our moderation practices. We work harder at it that you could possibly imagine and strive to get better at it every day. We mourn every single edit, deletion, closure, and interjection and always attempt a human solution over an authoritative or technical one. It's just that not all of you are human. And I must admit. I absolutely love and am endlessly amused at the absurd brilliance of this thread being closed. more soon. ~max |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Bluesman Date: 14 Apr 12 - 06:40 AM Sleep well. Keith.
This thread is taking a "time out." It may be reopened later today. Why, you ask? Name calling, trolling, and baiting trolls. No one who has read this far down on this juggernaut is innocent of the facts at hand. --Mudelf
|
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Apr 12 - 06:36 AM Hey, I'm goin' to crash............... G' night... GfS |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Bluesman Date: 14 Apr 12 - 06:31 AM It may help if the reason for closing a thread is explained at the end of it by the moderator. Giving the reason, either the thread has degenerated from being anything useful other than for flaming and name calling, or it is a thread that has a duplicate already on the site. I am as guilty as any for drifting too much off topic. Most threads I have been involved in usually consist of constructive criticism. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: John MacKenzie Date: 14 Apr 12 - 06:21 AM As a lightning conductor, this thread is working very well. God bless Ben Franklin. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:57 AM Yup...Mark, from Kent... Hey DO put a video up, old chap and let's see you, shall we? Of course, there's no way we'd know if it is you, but I just thought I'd put the suggestion out there.. GfS...I never 'go with the crowd'..Thank you...and now, I'll leave you to get along with your new found buddie.. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Bluesman Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:52 AM Yes I am in the UK, Originally from Hertfordshire, moved recently to property I own in Medway to oversee a sizable renovation and building project my son undertook in Chatham. More or less there to keep an eye on things. Nice part of the country. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:42 AM yeah, We've bumped into each other a few times. sometimes she pops off with a good line...sometimes not too slick..but all in all, we haven't 'exchanged' much. Though sometimes I don't tend to agree with all 'persuasions' and sometimes she goes with the crowd...she's usually been polite to me.....maybe another universe of 'political opinions' but jeez, that seems to be pretty prevalent on here. Nonetheless, I'm cool with both of you ..I think.... GfS |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Bluesman Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:33 AM GfS,I think you now see what I spoke of. I tend to ignore these unfounded unproven allegations. Let's get the stated subject of this thread back on track and ignore the interruptions. I make allowances for some people, you never know the personal circumstances or hardship of their troubled minds. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:24 AM Oh hi, Lizzy. "Why?' Do you guys do whatever you do to each other? GfS |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:17 AM "She's probably the lucky one!!....I can hold my own...." Yes, GfS, wankers usually do, so I've heard.... And as far as 'the websites' I'm on, apart from Facebook, I ain't on any...OFFICIALLY that is, although the bloke you're sucking up to, if you'll pardon the expression makes loads of pages in my name which he sticks all over the place...He does this to others too on mudcat.. May I politely suggest you both 'hold your own' together... Thank you |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:12 AM She's probably the lucky one!!....I can hold my own.... You in the UK? GfS |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Bluesman Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:04 AM I have been on the receiving end of her abuse, believe me not pleasant, lucky I am a thick skinned kinda guy. A click on the name can reveal much. Surprised you never had the pleasure her acquaintance. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Apr 12 - 04:52 AM Well, she came to the right place! There's plenty of company!! Personal relationship dynamics??....or a political scum? GfS |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Bluesman Date: 14 Apr 12 - 04:40 AM The recent arrival to this thread, has issues. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Apr 12 - 04:36 AM ....and what kind of sites?? GfS |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Apr 12 - 04:35 AM Huh?? which woman?? I'm already up on links here....doesn't matter. I DON'T have a political agenda....just a musical one. GfS |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Bluesman Date: 14 Apr 12 - 04:22 AM Hi GfS. A friend has two tracks of us up on youtube, I would advise that neither of us divulge too much personal information about ourselves here, especially now with the return of that woman who keeps telling us she will never return here. She has a bit of a fetish for inclusions on social websites. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Apr 12 - 04:14 AM Hey bluesman...you got anything online, in the way of music?? (Now watch....they'll jump my ass for 'topic drift'............. Anywhere where I can hear ya'? GfS |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Bluesman Date: 14 Apr 12 - 03:50 AM Well said GfS. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Apr 12 - 03:13 AM Man!..What a ride!! GREAT POSTS!!! 999, and Hookey. THAT'S What I mean, by changing the dialogue!!! First of all, I don't have a 'Jones' or an axe to grind with 'liberals' any more than 'conservatives'. What pisses me off, is that BOTH of them, as a group of individual people, ALL wanting to do the best thing they can, WITH THE INFORMATION THEY GOT TO WORK WITH, have just been flat out deceived! Even with all the abundance of evidence, and a 'trail' that leads from where we were, to what this people has become now, happens to be the results of Politician/Financials/Media relationship...and all working for the 'elite' few. Example: Now, just bear with..It is a pretty well known and accepted fact, by pretty much everybody, that Glass-Steagall Act was a disaster, and paved the way for the financial/banking mess and large portions of the economy taking a massive dump! I want you to think back, if you were paying attention, at all back then, and remember the media package it was dressed up to be, and then the 'debate' of the 'advantages' of enacting that, and all the 'benefits' it would make possible, for all the 'loan benefits' for the 'struggling families, needing a hand up'. the 'Right', says Great for business! the 'Left' says "I don't know about those business guys..." Crooked Banker negotiates with party bosses, and now its sold to the 'Left' as a benevolent way to 'help' poorer people. Party boss, accepts deal, of 'inside trading' tips, because this thing is going to make him also, a wealthy man..with no connected money trail. Party boss, makes 'issue' (either pro or con) about why the party base should be 'concerned'. Debates, and enthusiasm anticipation grows...after all, 'we'(the party) are going to be the 'good guys' for once, and these 'loans' will be available...and we're getting something 'our' way..OK?...Soon the 'legal' obstacles are out of the way, and it opens the doors for the crookedest pieces of crap on the planet to sell us a 'pyramid scheme' to defraud the entire tax structure, and economy, for a LONG way off...if, in fact, we recover, at all. Clinton backed and signed the bill. YET, if you are a Democrat, it either gets swept away, or reasoned away. Don't you think that before the plan was laid out, that the people who concocted the scam, spent maybe just a little time, figuring ways to get it through the 'legal' system, and how to sell the 'good idea' of it to the masses??? Bottom line: We were deceived...on purpose...for the sake of these crooks, to get money, a stepping stone to power. None of them prosecuted, no serious investigation resulting in much. Not much exposing them....no the party connections, on both sides....and we eat shit. Now that's just one example. I picked an old one, but come on folks, they just keep doing it in front of our eyes, and both sides feverishly Debating THINKING THEY ARE RIGHT...because both sides, as far as us, the 'wee people', are comprised of mostly some pretty damn good people! I thought about it,999...whom I have regards for, and how nicely would you tell someone to get off the tracks, there's a train comin' while they have their hands over their ears??? In a kindly tone: "A sir, mam, would you so kindly, because you're such a wonderful person, please be smiling and in a great mood while you feel comfortable, at your leisure, to kindly walk over here....the train is only 10 feet away...." Ya' think?? So the question of "WHY?" as demonstrated here, amongst friends, musical friends, (even better) and the tactics employed, are exactly how WE have been played, misdirected attention...by the crooks, posing as ideologues, selling the argument through their political influencer/hacks, to pull off scams, on the American taxpayers back..after all, we're their credit collateral. Solyndra,(and the rest) Volt, Immelt/'Jobs Czar'/unelected taking 500B of 'stimulus' to create jobs............in China??...'Shovel Ready'...."Health Care Bill'.....etc etc etc all of it and more, was sold to their supporters as something other than what it was..and is!! Now as the list gets longer, when will people finally stop assuming its 'one of those guys from the other party that irritates me so much, with his 'argument' about_________(?)whatever.....and start taking a hard look, at what is REALLY happening. Shit, you'd convict George Zimmerman WITH LESS EVIDENCE!! So, in closing, maybe it's time that we look at ALL the deceived people for what it really is, and help them..with compassion, even those from the 'other' party..and as human beings....sing to them, and bring their attentions to higher things...and be on the cutting edge. Sooner or later, after it's all over, we might THEN learn to LOVE one another, as if we shouldn't now. Be upfront, honest...so you won't be susceptible of being deceived, yourselves. Just like in music....DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Be the change...no use waitin' for those fuckers to 'bring it to you'! Oh, and about the part about the 'morons'....: 999: "GfS: it's references like 'jackass moron' which seem to be applied to anyone who disagrees with you that get folks pissed off, that and the occasional lapse into "I have been telling you this stuff for years and it's still not getting through your thick heads." Actually I wasn't thinking of 'Richard Bridge' or 'Bill D' nor was I in anyway insulting them...and if I in any way implied that, I'm sorry...actually I'm grateful they showed up and gave an outstanding performance, to illustrate a point. They deserve a round of applause. They were great!! Put your hands to-GETH-er!..give it up for 'em! And Regards to all the players in continuing the dialogue.....on "WHY?" (it's bigger than ya' think) GfS |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish Date: 14 Apr 12 - 02:54 AM From Richard: "I don't believe that a civilised society should tolerate racism bigotry or fascism, or indeed, their supporters. Even the USA, the vanguard of "free speech", racial abuse is forbidden." I fully agree. It is the only reason why I rarely post here now, and then, only as a 'guest' for I refuse to belong to any community where this type of speech is tolerated. Sadly, it has been tolerated here for way too long, to the point where the person who does it now almost holds this site to ransom. If anyone dares to disagree with his foul posts and they are usually SO foul that they cannot be ignored (as well he knows) then the thread is usually closed very fast. Of course, he knows this will happen, which is why he behaves this way, laughing from the security of being hidden away behind his screen. I have strong principles and I find it nigh on impossible not to tell foul-minded folk what I think of their racist, abusive behaviour. It's very hard to run a site when you have a poster of this depth of nastiness. I do not know why he is permitted to still come to Mudcat. I think he has driven a lot of good people away. The gift of free speech, for me, does not entail the ABUSE of that gift. And now, back to closed threads........... |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Hookey Wole Date: 13 Apr 12 - 11:19 PM Oh, well there goes the happy clappping new mood of niceness... .. I'd say I'm more of a "fuckin perspicacious asshole!" shame you never got as far as reading 4 through 5 & 6..... |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: gnu Date: 13 Apr 12 - 11:05 PM Hookey Wole... "hmmmmm.. now let's think... 1] autocratic benevolent dictator,..." That's as far as I read before I said to myself, "What a fuckin arrogant asshole!" |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Don Firth Date: 13 Apr 12 - 10:59 PM Amen, 999! Don Firth |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Janie Date: 13 Apr 12 - 10:14 PM Bruce, Jeri, mudelf, Kat, Bill D. *smile* |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Bill D Date: 13 Apr 12 - 10:02 PM "Be nice, please." Mammy Yokum, Li'l Abner's mom, used to say "Good is better'n evil, 'cause it's nicer!" |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Hookey Wole Date: 13 Apr 12 - 09:53 PM hmmmmm.. now let's think... 1] autocratic benevolent dictator, 2] secret unaccountable governing bureaucracy and law enforcement, 3] institutionalised monitoring & censorship of all public communications 4] citizens denouncing each other in public, 5] citizens furtively informing on each other to secret police in private 6] Gangs of thugs intimidating non conformist dissident citizens [with or without tacit complicity of governing bureaucracy ???] 7] folk music and outdoor traditional culture celebrations & camping hmmmmm.... sounds like a series of documentaries I watched on the "History Channel"..??? But.. y'know what, I'm actually ok with 1 & 2; Being a pragmatist, I'm still open to persuasion on 3.. It's 4 & 5 & 6 that's the sour core of the rotting apple that leaves the worst taste and stains the undergarments in any community... 7.... least said about 7 the better. At least we don't have to wear uniforms, suffer food shortages, and Mudcat has no nulear missiles... [does it...?????] |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: gnu Date: 13 Apr 12 - 09:00 PM "Be nice, please." Gee... where have I heard that rule before? Oh, yeah... way back in this thread... I think. Within the first 50 or so posts? No? And, seems to me, whoever posted to that effect said that's been the suggested approach for 12 years or more in this here Café??? I could be wrong. My memory sucks... or blows... I have a hard time to remember with all the sucking and blowing going on around here. Recap... one rule... no personal attacks. Unwritten rule... you do not have a vote. Seems pretty simple to me. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Apr 12 - 09:00 PM Isn't there just a bit of irony in that this thread about the terrible closed thread problem now has 238 posts? Spaw |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: katlaughing Date: 13 Apr 12 - 08:02 PM Ditto here, Jeri. ...While just the art of being kind Is all the sad world needs. - Ella Wheeler Wilcox - |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Jeri Date: 13 Apr 12 - 07:49 PM I agree with that moderator, who was not me. "Be nice" ought to do it. If people don't know what that entails, you've probably got worse problems than getting deleted here. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,999 Date: 13 Apr 12 - 07:21 PM GfS: it's references like 'jackass moron' which seem to be applied to anyone who disagrees with you that get folks pissed off, that and the occasional lapse into "I have been telling you this stuff for years and it's still not getting through your thick heads." There are lots of people here who post things as they see those things, and many of them well-read. I am as well read as you I think, and as we have discussed on a few occasions much in-line with your way of thinking. But, your somewhat lame and erroneous indictment of liberals gets on my crank because it's lame and erroneous. You use the word like it's a bad thing to be liberal. It isn't. (Nor is it necessarily bad to be conservative.) This site belongs to Max, 100%. Has there always been agreement among the moderators? No. Will there ever be? I don't know. As for posts disappearing or threads, it happens. Years back I would have given a shit and did; now, I don't. There are things than do not help: lack of a clear understanding of policy regarding Guest posts in BS is one. I figure they'll get to it in due course. Another is where to draw the line/define the 'limit' with regard to remarks about or to another poster. However, when that stuff gets decided and made clear then maybe lots of other stuff will fall in place and much of this thread will have been unnecessary. As Bill pointed out earlier, it's difficult to make simple rules. Reminds me of an educator I know who got his school teachers to make a list of rules for their classrooms. Some came in with reams/stacks of paper, numbered. One teacher came in with a single sentence. "Be nice, please." The school went to single sentence rules: be nice, be polite, don't snore, and others in a similar vein. There was a reason for that: make a long list and someone will find a way around it. Make anything so prescriptive and it causes people to look for loopholes, and people will and do find them. 'Harsh' or inflammatory language comes in many forms: some is obsequious, some double entendre-d, some in the guise of politely worded sarcasm, some outright foolish remarks at best. It isn't a moderator's job to curb that. It's ours, all of us, and that includes moderators participating in the thread.
That's a perfect "10" of an answer, 999! --mudelf |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Bill D Date: 13 Apr 12 - 07:15 PM "Vigorous writing is concise. Omit needless words." - William Strunk Jr. and E. B. White |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: michaelr Date: 13 Apr 12 - 06:31 PM John McKenzie: thanks, I did not know that. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Bill D Date: 13 Apr 12 - 05:02 PM "...there will be some who completely understand what I'm saying....and some jack-ass moron will pretend he didn't understand a bit of it,..." GfS----In college, I read GWF Hegel (German students prefer to read him in English tranalation).... but for that I got credit- and an 'A'. I 'can' work thru posts with indefinite references, loose but extended metaphors, assertions with self-referential embedded assumptions...and implied existential truths- but it is too much work to sort out some expositions in the time alotted. When I post HERE I try to be as clear & coherent as the situation will allow. I don't always succeed, but the intent is there. My bit of poking at your 'style' was simply a short attempt to avoid saying it ...ummm...like this. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: katlaughing Date: 13 Apr 12 - 04:38 PM What Catspaw said, two or three times, already, but I might also add there may be no need for the OP's original question if people considered the following: from the Four Agreements - A Toltec Wisdom Book by don Miguel Ruiz: 1) Be Impeccable with your word 2) Don't take anything personally 3) Don't make assumptions 4) Always Do Your Best |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Hookey Wole Date: 13 Apr 12 - 02:57 PM .. and bellicose.. me ??? I am sincerely hampered by a distinct genetic trait to try to seek, reason moderation and conciliation in situations of ..errrmm.. over-dynamic social intercourse... |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,999 Date: 13 Apr 12 - 02:55 PM "Right now, clearing up the mess after the wife stepped in dogshit on the pavement outside our front door is a far more irritating real hazard of modern social life." Calls for a block party, imo. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Jeri Date: 13 Apr 12 - 02:53 PM Guest from Sanity gets on my nerves sometimes (and the *wink* thing is stupid), but I agree with what he said above. When you argue because you don't like somebody and don't care about WHAT they're saying, maybe it's time to be somewhere else. Just think about whether you're making things better or worse. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Hookey Wole Date: 13 Apr 12 - 02:51 PM Don, which Hookey Wole ? The real one, me ? The imposter, who ? or perhaps neither ? I say your "distinct impression" is wrong. How do we know you are not actually "Guest from Insanity and Guest Hookey Wole" ? P.S. I get the distinct impression that this place is rife with easily exploitable & manipulated resentments and paranoia. As well as just plain ordinary lazy folks who don't bother carefully reading threads before pitching in...??? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Don Firth Date: 13 Apr 12 - 02:48 PM Maybe GUEST,Bluesman as well. They all have the same bellicose attitude and consider themselves (itself?) to actually be in possession of a functioning brain cell. Don Firth |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: gnu Date: 13 Apr 12 - 02:41 PM Troll, troll, troll along Gently down the thread. Merrily, merrily, merrily The trolls are getting fed. It's getting kinda silly. While speed reading recent posts, I caught a snippet of one post... ye wants a democratic Mudcat? Ere ye fookin serious? Give yer head a shake to see if it rattles! Lard tunderin Jaysus buddy. D'ye read em before ya submit em? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Don Firth Date: 13 Apr 12 - 02:39 PM It's obvious that Guest from Insanity has far too much time on its hands and nothing to say. Don Firth P. S. And I get the distinct impression that Guest from Insanity and Guest Hookey Wole are one and the same. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Bluesman Date: 13 Apr 12 - 02:21 PM It is an excellent post, this thread has been drifting a bit, this post by GfS brought it back on track, I see the negatives gathering again, clearly these individuals aren't capable of offering a solution. Well said GfS. Keith. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Ebbie Date: 13 Apr 12 - 02:19 PM I am reminded forcibly of various meetings and seminars I have attended. I remember one where a police officer told us that one almost invariable component of a criminal's life is that s/he thinks s/he is smarter than her/his adversaries. Not to say that this is a crime. But the component is there. wink! |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 13 Apr 12 - 01:57 PM Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? Bill D: "Richard... it's easy.... you read every 3rd word- backwards. Then imagine ee cummings reading it to improvised jazz." Richard Bridge: "What?" From the bottom of a previous post.....: From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 10 Apr 12 - 05:23 AM So, in closing, for now, there will be some who completely understand what I'm saying....and some jack-ass moron will pretend he didn't understand a bit of it, some will be pissed off for being exposed, but the only real or good thing that can come of it, is to resolve to make it better.....and try, if you can't 'win' your argument, at least consider that the guy you feel you need to call libelous names at, is probably smarter than you, on the subject, and shut your mouth for a few moments, and attempt to discipline yourself to actually learn something, or ask inquisitively more questions on it...as if you could actually be interested in something more than proving what stupid opinionated jerk sounds like when trolling!!! Fair Enough??? GfS |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Bill D Date: 13 Apr 12 - 12:46 PM Richard... it's easy.... you read every 3rd word- backwards. Then imagine ee cummings reading it to improvised jazz. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Richard Bridge Date: 13 Apr 12 - 12:35 PM What? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 13 Apr 12 - 11:09 AM Are 'Guests' supposed to supply the answers?..or guess at why the posts vaporize when a good question is asked??...or notice that the deletions and closures start touching the Achilles Heel inconsistency of 'political rhetoric' that has obvious contradictions in it? What is more important, being 'politically correct' or honest and accurate? If the political shit is found NOT to hold up, to the truth, go for the truth, based on FACTS....instead of bellowing an error, long enough to adopt, and recruit more erroneous creatures, who seem to be a hybrid of lemmings and parrots! As long as we don't admit that there are some 'flaws' along the way, and don't correct them, including the abandonment of impotent notions, then we might as well write off any effectiveness, that we, as artists can bring to the social conscientiousness. Shit, if we want everything to fit in a nice box, of 'political correctness'...we got the rest of eternity to fit in a box. How about bringing some TRUTH to the living? ...and by the way folks, I'm not just talking about 'liberals' either. Right now this country is dividing all over the place, every segment of this society is being 'force fed' reasons to hate, and be at war with another segment. We are fractured...BY DESIGN.....and by design of the same people who are NOT recognized, by EITHER parties as the controllers of the national dialogue. In fact, they are the ones, throwing the topics and controversies out to the masses, so while the masses are 'arguing' and skirmishing back and forth, our eyes are off the real agenda, being played out....in which WE ALL lose!! Is this STILL not apparent??....It becomes REALLY OBVIOUS, when we look honestly and objectively at their DEEDS, as opposed to listening to the rhetoric, and getting all whooped up. Do you realize how monumental it is, that Mudcat Forum is broaching this subject???....in a time of national and cultural confusion??? No, folks, I ain't just stirring up 'trouble'....I'm talking to the very people who were there, knows what can happen, but have been anesthetized, and who are being 'brought to', out of their slumber. WE, as folk singers, IF coupled with the TRUTH and FACTS, would be a force to be reckoned with! Didn't we already prove that?......and now nobody is listening? What changed? Love for our fellow human beings have been replaced, by bureaucratic rhetoric and 'programs' aimed at controlling, not helping...while the debt of their profiteering has further enslaved, a once free and kick-ass people. ...and that's OK???? Well shut me up! On YOUR SIDE! GfS |