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Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info

GUEST,Carole Bannister 21 Apr 12 - 05:19 AM
Ian Hendrie 21 Apr 12 - 06:32 AM
GUEST,Carole Bannister 21 Apr 12 - 08:28 AM
Ian Hendrie 21 Apr 12 - 10:57 AM
GUEST,Carole Bannister 21 Apr 12 - 11:40 AM
Les in Chorlton 21 Apr 12 - 11:45 AM
Will Fly 21 Apr 12 - 11:50 AM
Paul Burke 21 Apr 12 - 03:25 PM
GUEST,Ed 21 Apr 12 - 04:31 PM
Ian Hendrie 22 Apr 12 - 04:41 AM
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GUEST,Howard Jones 22 Apr 12 - 12:25 PM
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Paul Burke 22 Apr 12 - 06:36 PM
Ian Hendrie 23 Apr 12 - 09:29 AM
Carole Bannister 23 Apr 12 - 05:58 PM
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Subject: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: GUEST,Carole Bannister
Date: 21 Apr 12 - 05:19 AM

I read a book called RED SHIFT by Alan Garner. Its a retelling of the old Tam lyn legend. Any info about the location would be fab.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Ian Hendrie
Date: 21 Apr 12 - 06:32 AM

Try http://www.mowcop.info/


There may be some relevant songs in this book by Roy Clinging :
http://anneloaderpublications.co.uk/index/90125349/index.htm


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: GUEST,Carole Bannister
Date: 21 Apr 12 - 08:28 AM

Just ordered the bok recommended, thanks for that!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Ian Hendrie
Date: 21 Apr 12 - 10:57 AM

If you click on the Music button on the following link : http://www.mowcop.info/index.htm you get to the song 'The Old Man of Mow' by Trevor Caswell.


Northwest of Scholar Green lies Mow Cop
Miles away from my Nicola town
and if you are patient when you look around
you'll find the Old Man of Mow

High on a hill overlooking the quarry grounds
you'll have to climb up if you want to find out
There is a way, but no one can tell you how
to find the Old Man of Mow

My mama she gave a book when I was just a boy
the turning of pages has so much to tell
There's stories that stay with us all as we travel on
just be sure to remember the words of the well

Whatever tomorrow might bring doesn't matter much
the sun or the rain makes no difference at all
If the angle is right and you get your mind around
you'll find the Old Man of Mow

The signs they don't always point where you want to go
The answers you want may not be what you find
but don't let the brick works grab you and weigh you down
afterall you are wonderfully one of a kind

Looking around for the Old Man of Mow


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: GUEST,Carole Bannister
Date: 21 Apr 12 - 11:40 AM

Thanks for the song lyrics.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 21 Apr 12 - 11:45 AM

The 'Home' of Primitive Methodism?

L in C#


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Will Fly
Date: 21 Apr 12 - 11:50 AM

If you want a brief psychedelic video ramble round Mow Cop with some silly fiddle music, see here...


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Paul Burke
Date: 21 Apr 12 - 03:25 PM

Does 'one man went to Mow' count?

But anyway what's a 'Nicola' town?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 21 Apr 12 - 04:31 PM

what's a 'Nicola' town?

Nicola is a town in British Columbia, Canada.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Ian Hendrie
Date: 22 Apr 12 - 04:41 AM

And Trever Caswell, who wrote the aforementioned song, is a Canadian folk singer. It all fits!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: greg stephens
Date: 22 Apr 12 - 05:19 AM

Elvis Presley, during the period he worked in a chip shop in Macclesfield after his so-called "death", was often to be seen at Mow Cop enjoying the view over the Cheshire plain.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: John J
Date: 22 Apr 12 - 05:31 AM

I understand he now works in the Tesco in Macc - on the night shift, stacking shelves.

JJ


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Apr 12 - 09:13 AM

They call him 'Shelvis'!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: GUEST,Howard Jones
Date: 22 Apr 12 - 12:25 PM

There's any number of places north west of Scholar Green (possibly including Nicola BC by a great circle route), but Mow Cop isn't one of them - it's pretty much due east.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: TopcatBanjo
Date: 22 Apr 12 - 03:25 PM

You might be interested to see this recent video by Tim Eriksen and Cath & Phil Tyler, filmed on Mow Cop and including some historical info in the notes.

Tim Eriksen, Cath & Phil Tyler singing on Mow Cop


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Paul Burke
Date: 22 Apr 12 - 06:36 PM

Anyway guest Carole: why is the book called Red Shift, when any fule kno that Janet wore a kirtle green?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Ian Hendrie
Date: 23 Apr 12 - 09:29 AM

More information about Red Shift can be found here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Shift_%28novel%29

All seems very strange!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Carole Bannister
Date: 23 Apr 12 - 05:58 PM

Love it! Have you read the book? If so, any bits you really liked?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: Carole Bannister
Date: 26 Apr 12 - 05:45 PM

Well, in "Red Shift" Jan does wear a green coat in one part, the title itself alludes to the characture, Tom, who is autistic. Another characture, Macey, is affected by blue red and silver, i could go on...
great book, read it.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 26 Apr 12 - 08:08 PM

Some Curiosities of Mow Cop and near-by;
The Old Man o' Mow
The Castle - Summer House
The View of Seven Counties
The Quarries and Coalmines
The Tramway and Tunnel
The Macclesfield Canal
The Velvet Mills
The Rode Hall-Moreton Hall Border
The Cheshire-Staffordshire Border
The Canterbury-York Ecclesiastical Sees Border
Little Moreton Hall
Biddulph Grange
The Apedale Heritage Centre
The Railway and Mow Cop Station
The Springs and Wells - Squire's Well, Parson's Well & Woodcocks Well
The Mow Cop Chapel Museum
Hannah Dale - Child of Wonder
The Pikelet and Oatcake Man from Macclesfield
The Killer Mile
The Heritage Trail
The Mow Cop Trail
The Gritstone Trail
The South Cheshire Way
The Staffordshire Way
Primitive Methodism


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 27 Apr 12 - 04:55 AM

I bought a first edition of "Red Shift" (entirely by accident) years ago but I've never actually read it. The picture on the dust jacket is a silhouette of the folly on the top of Mow Cop.

And for those of you who are pronouncing "Mow" as they would when they mow the lawn, Mow should rhyme with "cow".


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Mow Cop Hill, any songs, legends or info
From: glueman
Date: 27 Apr 12 - 05:28 AM

George Longstaff cycles have the Mow Cop folly as the head badge on their bikes.


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