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Folkestone Murder broadside

GUEST,George Frampton 25 Apr 12 - 10:43 AM
Acme 25 Apr 12 - 10:50 AM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 25 Apr 12 - 12:24 PM
GUEST,Paul Slade 25 Apr 12 - 12:31 PM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 25 Apr 12 - 12:47 PM
GUEST,Paul Slade 25 Apr 12 - 07:10 PM
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Subject: Folkestone Muder broadside
From: GUEST,George Frampton
Date: 25 Apr 12 - 10:43 AM

Can anyone tell me (or give me a URL) where I can find the source of the original broadside of George Spicer's 'Folkestone Murder' song?
This is the one that starts: 'Kind friends, come pay attention, and listen to my song ...'
This version is predominant in south-east England and efforts to locate the original has been fruitless. (There are two other versions in Julia deVaynes's 'The Kentish Garland', but are nowhere near the one under question).

I am trying to bridge a 15 year gap between the time George's father-in-law was born in 1874 from whom George learnt the song, and the murder itself. (Pedantic, I know, but authoritative if a successful match can be identified).

PS:- Yes, I have tried other ballad websites, and also Steve Gardham, and it's eluded him as well!


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Subject: RE: Folkestone Muder broadside
From: Acme
Date: 25 Apr 12 - 10:50 AM

Oh good! A mystery! This is what Mudcat is so good at solving!

SRS


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Subject: RE: Folkestone Murder broadside
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 25 Apr 12 - 12:24 PM

This may indeed prove difficult. The Roud index shows 28 entries for #897 (The Folkestone Murder/Marie and Caroline/Maria and Sweet Caroline/Mary and Sweet Caroline/Switzerland John), all of them from oral tradition.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Folkestone Murder broadside
From: GUEST,Paul Slade
Date: 25 Apr 12 - 12:31 PM

http://www.planetslade.com/broadside-ballads-foreigners-downfall.html

Not precisely what you're after, I know - but perhaps of some help?


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Subject: RE: Folkestone Murder broadside
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 25 Apr 12 - 12:47 PM

The BL hold two sheets by Powell dated 1856 and 1857, but they may only be a related song.

The dying soldier in Maidstone Gaol (1856): "Oh list my friends to a foreign soldier."

Life, trial and execution of Dedea Redanies, for the murder of Caroline and Maria Back (1857).

Powell is listed as printer at Whitechapel and Maidstone. It's not clear if the 1857 is a reissue of the 1856 one or a different thing entirely.


Mick


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Subject: RE: Folkestone Murder broadside
From: GUEST,Paul Slade
Date: 25 Apr 12 - 07:10 PM

The second sheet Mick mentions is the one I linked to above. There's a scan available via that page too, and it's first line is: "Oh list awhile both far and near".


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