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Chords or melody for 'Us Poor Fellows'?

GUEST,BC Flyer 30 Apr 12 - 08:18 PM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 01 May 12 - 06:32 AM
GUEST,BC Flyer 08 May 12 - 12:52 AM
Phil Edwards 08 May 12 - 03:26 AM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 08 May 12 - 04:19 AM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 08 May 12 - 11:47 AM
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Subject: Chords or melody for 'Us Poor Fellows'?
From: GUEST,BC Flyer
Date: 30 Apr 12 - 08:18 PM

Hi Mudcatters

Anyone have chords or a melody notation for Bellamy's "Us Poor Fellows"?

Thanks for any help.


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Subject: RE: Chords or melody for 'Us Poor Fellows'?
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 01 May 12 - 06:32 AM

I'll post them for you a bit later (things to do at the moment!)

Mick


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Subject: RE: Chords or melody for 'Us Poor Fellows'?
From: GUEST,BC Flyer
Date: 08 May 12 - 12:52 AM

Hey Mick--gentle nudge about the Bellamy chords....

Would be MUCH appreciated!

Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Chords or melody for 'Us Poor Fellows'?
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 08 May 12 - 03:26 AM

If you've got the recording, noting down the melody should be fairly straightforward. If not, I can do you an unaccompanied rendition.


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Subject: RE: Chords or melody for 'Us Poor Fellows'?
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 08 May 12 - 04:19 AM

Sorry BC - I noted the melody down last week from my own memory, but haven't had time to get the recording out to check it. I'll try and do that today and put it up later on, though I've just had some of my lead flashings stolen last night and may be a bit busy with roofers and/or insurers!


Mick


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Subject: RE: Chords or melody for 'Us Poor Fellows'?
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 08 May 12 - 11:47 AM

Here you are BC, sorry for the delay!

Mick



X:1
T:Us Poor Fellows
C:Peter Bellamy
D:The Transports, Free Reed, 1977
M:3/4
L:1/4
Q:1/4=110
K:C
G/G/|"C"G> E D|"Am"C2 D/E/|"F"F G> A|"G"G2
w:Oh the times they are hard and the wa-ges are poor
(G/F/)|"C"E F G|"Am"C< D E|"F"F< G F|"C"E2
w:None_ of us poor fel-lows have mon-ey in store
E/D/|"C"C> D E|"Dm"F2 E/F/|"G"G A B|"Am"c2
w:So how can a good man keep the wolf from the door
c|"C"G< F E|"Dm"D F (F/A/)|"G"G3-|G2
w:Poor fel-lows we all will go_ down_
G|"C"c B c|"G"d c d|"C"e e f|"G"d2
w:When work it is scarce tell me how can we eat
c|"Am"c d c|"Em"B> A G|"F"F G F|"C"E2
w:How can we af-ford to buy shoes for our feet
(E/D/)|"C"C D E|"Dm"F E> F|"G"G A B|"Am"c2
w:How_ can we get cloth-ing to keep off the sleet
c|"C"G< F E|"G"D F B,|"C"C3-|C z |]
w:Poor fel-lows we might as well drown._


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Subject: RE: Chords or melody for 'Us Poor Fellows'?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 May 12 - 01:22 PM

Thank you so much, Mick! I'm really excited about doing this song at a folk festival this summer and now my partner and I can start work on it.

I'm just unfamiliar with the notation you're using (sorry--I'm a singer, not a guitar player).

What does a chord in quotation marks mean? "C" "Am"

What does it mean when you use a greater than or less than symbol?

G
What's an E2?

And are the chords in lowercase letters minor chords?


Sorry about the stolen flashings. I heard there was a rash of metal theft happening from buildings as the price of scrap metal rises.
Is this part of that, do you think?


Phil, thanks for the unaccompanied rendition. My problem was that I want to do this WITH accompaniment, but can't find chords/melody/arrangements anywhere. Mick has kindly solved the problem.


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Subject: RE: Chords or melody for 'Us Poor Fellows'?
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 08 May 12 - 02:28 PM

BC - it's ABC. If you copy everything from X:1 to the last line of lyrics, then go to this site, paste it into the box and press 'Submit', all should become clear.


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Subject: RE: Chords or melody for 'Us Poor Fellows'?
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 08 May 12 - 02:30 PM

The notation is abc notation - it's the melody and the chords combined (the things in quotes are the actual chords; the other things are a way of giving the melody notes and their durations: the lower case letters are just a different octave from the upper case letters; the > and < are shorthand ways of coding dotted note+half note combinations). It's a concise way of giving melodies in text format, that's relatively readable by humans if you're so inclined!

If you copy the stuff I gave above (everything from X:1 to the drown._) and paste it into the converter box here: Concertina Net - abc converter and press the Submit button, it will convert it to standard notation which you can download as a pdf and will also create midi files which you can download.

abc notation is described here: abc notation home page and the software page there will give you various software packages you can download to display/play it. There are quite a few packages for all platforms.

Here are the words with just the chords:

US POOR FELLOWS
(Peter Bellamy)

Oh the (C)times they are (Am)hard and the (F)wages are (G)poor,
None (C)of us poor (Am)fellows have (F)money in (C)store,
So how (C)can a good (Dm)man keep the (G)wolf from the (Am)door?
Poor (C)fellows we (Dm)all will go (G)down.
When (C)work it is (G)scarce tell me (C)how can we (G)eat?
How (Am)can we af-(Em)ford to buy (F)shoes for our (C)feet?
How (C)can we get (Dm)clothing to (G)keep off the (Am)sleet?
Poor (C)fellows we (G)might as well (C)drown.

If you're still having problems, let me know and I'll see if I can do something more helpful.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Chords or melody for 'Us Poor Fellows'?
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 08 May 12 - 02:31 PM

I see Phil beat me to it with an explanation and alternative converter!

Mick


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Subject: RE: Chords or melody for 'Us Poor Fellows'?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 May 12 - 03:08 PM

Wow! You guys are superb! Thanks ever so.

Virtual hugs from Canada's wet coast.


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Subject: RE: Chords or melody for 'Us Poor Fellows'?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 May 12 - 03:17 PM

BTW--perhaps I should have identified myself as female before lavishing virtual hugs! Don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable! [grin]


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Subject: RE: Chords or melody for 'Us Poor Fellows'?
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 08 May 12 - 03:51 PM

BC

Now you'll never get us to stop helping you!

I forgot to answer you re the flashings - yes I think it is the scrap metal prices responsible. I've spoken to three roofers today and they all had lots of tales to tell of thefts from houses and (large volume) from churches locally.

If you think you might use Mudcat again, you might think about joining; it's free and membership hasn't caused me any problems in the last 10 years or so. It lets you use the personal message (PM) feature for exchanges that don't need to fill up a thread unnecessarily and let's people see you with the same id. (Of course if you post with the same guest name that identifies you too; I did that for a few years before I joined - that's why I have (MCP) in my member name - they were my initials that I used to identify myself before I joined - it links up with my old, pre-member, posts).

Glad we could help.

Mick


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