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Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad

GUEST,Pat Blackman 09 May 12 - 07:29 PM
michaelr 11 May 12 - 07:14 PM
Susan of DT 11 May 12 - 08:13 PM
Stewie 12 May 12 - 05:23 AM
GUEST 12 May 12 - 12:35 PM
michaelr 12 May 12 - 05:29 PM
GUEST,Pat Blackman 12 May 12 - 09:32 PM
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Subject: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad
From: GUEST,Pat Blackman
Date: 09 May 12 - 07:29 PM

This week on Murder Ballad Monday, we explore the Civil War murder ballad Hiram Hubbard.

Introduction - A first look for those unfamiliar with the ballad.

While Travelling Through Kentucky - An exploration of the history of the ballad and a good bit of educated guessing (or reckless speculation) about its historical context in the guerrilla warfare of highland Kentucky during the Civil War.


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Subject: RE: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad
From: michaelr
Date: 11 May 12 - 07:14 PM

Pat, there is a nifty, spooky version on the CD Among the Oak and Ash by the group of the same name. Check it out!


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Subject: RE: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad
From: Susan of DT
Date: 11 May 12 - 08:13 PM

Hiram


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Subject: RE: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad
From: Stewie
Date: 12 May 12 - 05:23 AM

Many thanks for your website and explorations. Fascinating!

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad
From: GUEST
Date: 12 May 12 - 12:35 PM

@Stewie, thanks!

@Susan, Thanks, I looked for the Hickerson version but couldn't find it anywhere. Does anyone know where to get hold of it?

@Michael, thanks... I did find that one and a few others, but couldn't find sources for all of the lyrics (ie. did they folk process them or are they different old sources?)

Here's my Spotify playlist of everything I've found so far.


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Subject: RE: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad
From: michaelr
Date: 12 May 12 - 05:29 PM

Well, the lyrics are not all that different in these versions - ATOAA substituted "sheriff" for "rebels" but the rest is pretty much like Jean Ritchie's version.


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Subject: RE: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad
From: GUEST,Pat Blackman
Date: 12 May 12 - 09:32 PM

That's what it seemed to me, all likely derivative of the Ritchie version except for the Tammerlin lyrics which clearly have more detail... The question then is whether the Ritchie family's version is older or the one that Laws cites (by citing Combs)is older. I think the latter, which I discuss in the post, but it's circumstantial. Also not sure where the Hickerson version that is in the DT here falls in the mix. Hoping to find it soon on an album or in a collection with some liner notes, or that someone here can add information from such...


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