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Subject: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad From: GUEST,Pat Blackman Date: 09 May 12 - 07:29 PM This week on Murder Ballad Monday, we explore the Civil War murder ballad Hiram Hubbard. Introduction - A first look for those unfamiliar with the ballad. While Travelling Through Kentucky - An exploration of the history of the ballad and a good bit of educated guessing (or reckless speculation) about its historical context in the guerrilla warfare of highland Kentucky during the Civil War. |
Subject: RE: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad From: michaelr Date: 11 May 12 - 07:14 PM Pat, there is a nifty, spooky version on the CD Among the Oak and Ash by the group of the same name. Check it out! |
Subject: RE: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad From: Susan of DT Date: 11 May 12 - 08:13 PM Hiram
HIRAM HUBBARD Come gather round me children and a story I will tell Come gather round me children and a story I will tell Concerning poor Hiram Hubbard, and how he came and fell While traveling through this country in sorrow and distress (2x) The rebels overhauled him, and in chains they bound him fast They whopped him up the mountain and they whopped him up the hill To that place of execution where he begged to write his will Farewell kind friends and neighbors, likewise my wife and child I never hurt nobody, but now I'm bound to die Well they bound the chains around him and they tied him to a tree Eleven balls went through him and then he sank away Hiram Hubbard was not guilty, I've heard great many say He was not in this country, he was ninety miles away @rebel @outlaw @Civil DT #367 Laws A20 recorded by Joe Hickerson filename[ HIRAMHUB TUNE FILE: HIRAMHUB CLICK TO PLAY SOF
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Subject: RE: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad From: Stewie Date: 12 May 12 - 05:23 AM Many thanks for your website and explorations. Fascinating! --Stewie. |
Subject: RE: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad From: GUEST Date: 12 May 12 - 12:35 PM @Stewie, thanks! @Susan, Thanks, I looked for the Hickerson version but couldn't find it anywhere. Does anyone know where to get hold of it? @Michael, thanks... I did find that one and a few others, but couldn't find sources for all of the lyrics (ie. did they folk process them or are they different old sources?) Here's my Spotify playlist of everything I've found so far. |
Subject: RE: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad From: michaelr Date: 12 May 12 - 05:29 PM Well, the lyrics are not all that different in these versions - ATOAA substituted "sheriff" for "rebels" but the rest is pretty much like Jean Ritchie's version. |
Subject: RE: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad From: GUEST,Pat Blackman Date: 12 May 12 - 09:32 PM That's what it seemed to me, all likely derivative of the Ritchie version except for the Tammerlin lyrics which clearly have more detail... The question then is whether the Ritchie family's version is older or the one that Laws cites (by citing Combs)is older. I think the latter, which I discuss in the post, but it's circumstantial. Also not sure where the Hickerson version that is in the DT here falls in the mix. Hoping to find it soon on an album or in a collection with some liner notes, or that someone here can add information from such... |
Subject: RE: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad From: Felipa Date: 08 Jan 23 - 03:00 PM https://singout.org/hiram-hubbard-hiram-hubbert/ https://archive.culturalequity.org/field-work/kentucky-1937/hazard-1037/hiram-hubbard Nancy Stacy recorded by Alan Lomax and Elizabeth Lyttleton Lomax |
Subject: RE: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad From: Felipa Date: 08 Jan 23 - 03:24 PM new link for https://singout.org/while-travelling-through-kentucky/ Ia this essentially the same as the blog which Pat Blackman directed us to at the start of the thread, and which appears to be a private site? I expect so; Pat Blackman is the author. |
Subject: RE: Hiram Hubbard - Murder Ballad From: GeoffLawes Date: 12 Jan 23 - 01:24 PM Information on The Ballad Index https://www.fresnostate.edu/folklore/ballads/LA20.html Hiram Hubbert [Laws A20]DESCRIPTION: Hiram Hubbard is captured and brought to trial. Although he is not guilty of anything, he is tried and convicted on the evidence of his captors. He makes a will and is summarily shot. (He is reported to have been ninety miles from the crime scene.)AUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1909 KEYWORDS: trial execution lastwill trial Civilwar FOUND IN: US(Ap) REFERENCES (5 citations): Laws A20, "Hiram Hubbert" Combs/Wilgus-FolkSongsOfTheSouthernUnitedStates 48, pp. 171-172, "Hiram Hubbert" (1 text) Ritchie-FolkSongsOfTheSouthernAppalachians, p. 77, "Hiram Hubbard" (1 text, 1 tune) Roberts-SangBranchSettlers, #32, Hiram Hubbard" (1 text, 1 tune) DT 367, HIRAMHUB* Roud #2208 RECORDINGS: Jean Ritchie & Doc Watson, "Hiram Hubbard" (on RitchieWatson1, RitchiteWatsonCD1) NOTES [94 words]: Reported to be "an echo of the guerilla warfare in the [Kentucky/Tennessee?] Highlands during the Civil War" (indeed, the RItchie text refers explicitly to rebels) This strikes me as not unlikely. These regions were filled with Unionists who did not like the fact that their states had put them into the Confederacy. It took the Union two years to get troops to Knoxville. Until they did, there was generally trouble between the locals and the Confederate government. I have not located any actual references to a Hiram Hubbard who was executed in this period. - RBW Last updated in version 4.2 File: LA20 Go to the Ballad Search form Go to the Ballad Index Instructions The Ballad Index Copyright 2022 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. |
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