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Irish Gaelic pronounciation

gnu 15 May 12 - 01:53 PM
MartinRyan 15 May 12 - 01:56 PM
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Sandy Mc Lean 15 May 12 - 02:16 PM
MartinRyan 15 May 12 - 02:35 PM
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GUEST,Kevin Tyler 15 May 12 - 06:24 PM
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Subject: Irish Gaelic pronounciation
From: gnu
Date: 15 May 12 - 01:53 PM

Dhie dhuit. (God be with you.)

Anyone?

Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Irish Gaelic pronounciation
From: MartinRyan
Date: 15 May 12 - 01:56 PM

Varies a bit with accent/dialect but a basic pronunciation would be:

dee-ah gwit

Stress first and last syllables.

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Subject: RE: Irish Gaelic pronounciation
From: MartinRyan
Date: 15 May 12 - 02:02 PM

For more than you need to know - and some sound files:

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Subject: RE: Irish Gaelic pronounciation
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 15 May 12 - 02:16 PM

In Scottish Gaelic it would sound as "Yee-ah goot". In the first word the H after the D gives it a Y sound. In the second word the H after the D gives it a G sound.


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Subject: RE: Irish Gaelic pronounciation
From: MartinRyan
Date: 15 May 12 - 02:35 PM

Sorry - I should have been more careful:

In (Irish) Gaelic, this greeting is written:

Dia dhuit

So the change in the consonant question only arises with the second word. Strictly, grammatically, there should be no h there. However it is ALWAYS pronounced as though it's there and USUALLY written explicitly.

Brought up on Munster Irish, I render "dh" as, roughly, gw as shown - but you will certainly hear it as y - especially in Donegal. Hence the similarity to Scottish Gaelic.

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Subject: RE: Irish Gaelic pronounciation
From: gnu
Date: 15 May 12 - 03:44 PM

Interesting, especially the Munster/Donegal comparison. Of course, I realize dialects don't travel very far at times.


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Subject: RE: Irish Gaelic pronounciation
From: MartinRyan
Date: 15 May 12 - 03:57 PM

A couple of years ago I did a course on Arranging and Staging Traditional Irish Music. This (full-time) course was delivered through Irish to a group of about ten singers, musicians and dancers - almost half of whom had Irish as their first language. This was in Spiddal, in the "Connemara Gaeltacht" i.e. Irish-speaking area of County Galway. Took me a while to get used to the accent and dialect... Three of the strongest Irish speakers in the group, ranging in age from mid 20-s to about mid-50's were reared within about a 30 mile radius of each other. Despite this, each surprisingly frequently had particular local words which the others didn't recognise!

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p.s. Incidentally, there was only one student with a Donegal accent and dialect - she was from Paris!


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Subject: RE: Irish Gaelic pronounciation
From: GUEST,Kevin Tyler
Date: 15 May 12 - 06:24 PM

Depends on the area of Ireland and the dialect. My mum was from Belfast, and they spell it "Dia Duit" pronounced "Dee-ah Doo-it"... at least that's the way my Uncle Pat said it. Means God be With You, basically.


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Subject: RE: Irish Gaelic pronounciation
From: GUEST,Dáithí
Date: 16 May 12 - 05:21 AM

You hear lots of variations - my usual is a bit Donegal (though my original Irish was more Munster, I've been spending the last 10 summers in the Donegal Gaeltacht) - Jee-a Gwitch!

Living language, innit?
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