Subject: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 27 May 12 - 02:26 PM Jim Saville (shantyfreak) and I are proud to announce the publication of The Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith. We began this project together back in 2006 and it has been a fascinating journey, with many a twist and turn, as we pulled together all her poems from long out of print books and periodicals, and researched her life. This newly released book contains about 640 poems with notes, hundreds of vintage illustrations, a discography of poems recorded as songs, and a short biography of this amazing poet. The price for the soft cover edition is about $40. The e-book edition will soon be available as well at a considerably lower cost, approximately $15. We are also discussing a larger format edition, 8.5 X 11, which should not cost much more than the current edition which is 7 X 10. Here's a public link to the official press release on Facebook: click here for Press Release The official launch of the book will be at the Mystic Sea Music Festival, June 7-10. Those who can't wait may order it now from Amazon.com, or from Little Red Tree Publishing. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 27 May 12 - 02:57 PM I'll save up to get this one. Thanks for a great contribution, Charley. |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 27 May 12 - 03:14 PM Bill- Besides Jim and myself there a host of volunteers who have spent hours doing work on this project from all over the world. Here are some who we acknowledge in the book: ACKNOWLEDGMENTS This book could not have been completed without the encouragement and hard work of dozens of people all over the world. First of all we recognize Danny McLeod of the United Kingdom (UK) who has played such a principal role as a performer and researcher in reintroducing Cicely Fox Smith as a nautical poet to the world. Other major researchers include Alan Hardy (UK), A. B. Blackmore (UK), W. H. Webb (UK), John Edgar Mann (UK), Ian "Nobby" Dye (UK), and Bob Zentz (US). Alan Fitzsimmons (UK) deserves special mention for first adapting so many of the poems that have been sung by McLeod and his bandmates. Other singers who have played a major role in adapting Smith's poems for singing include Bob Roberts (UK), Sarah Morgan (UK), Dick Miles of Ireland, Bob Zentz (US), Gordon Morris and Peter Massey (UK), William Pint and Felicia Dale (US), Dave Webber and Anni Fentiman (UK), Barrie Temple (UK), and Tom Lewis of Canada. In addition there are web-based resource groups that were also of great assistance. Project Gutenburg deserves special mention for its on-line archives of Punch Magazine (up to and including 1922). Oldpoetry is a website where the entire collection of Smith's poetry (as of 2011) is now available. The Mudcat Café is a website for those interested in folk music whose forum has provided spirited discussion of Smith's work, clues for further research, and in some cases invaluable volunteers from all over the world. There are the many volunteers who conducted research, photocopied or scanned hundreds of pages from exceedingly rare books or periodicals which could not be readily purchased in the used book market. Major work was done by Jenna Ipcar (US); Margaret Walters of Australia; Aziza Cooper and Bill Huot of Canada; Chris Roche, Jake Wade and Barrie Mathers of the United Kingdom. Finally, we would like to thank Joanie DiMartino who introduced us to our publisher Michael Linnard, a publisher who had the courage and determination to see that this vast inventory of poems was republished as completely as possible. We cannot personally thank everyone who has been of assistance in this project but know that your work was greatly appreciated. Charles Ipcar and James Saville |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: GUEST Date: 31 May 12 - 04:27 AM And of course the main recipients of the accolades must go to Jim and Charlie. The result of thousands of man-hours research in the bars of B.C & G.B.!(I've seen the pictures) My congratulations on reaching this epic milestone If ever I was involved in a labour of love, then this has been the most enjoyable and satisying. It is yet another wondeful example of Anglo-American co-operation. But it took a Yank to make us Brits realise what a literary marvel we were overlooking. Charlie has mentioned many people above and the great thing about projects like this is the teamwork. Well done the team. bradfordian |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Ross Campbell Date: 31 May 12 - 07:00 AM http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Poetry-Cicely-Smith/dp/193565618X/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1338461330&sr=8-15 $39.95 with Free Super Saver delivery in US. Order through the Mudcat/Amazon link:- http://www.amazon.com/?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&tag=themudcatcaf&link_code=hom&*entries*=0 Not on Amazon.UK yet, but Jim says he'll bring back as many as he can carry! Congratulations, Jim and Charlie, on a massive project brought to a worthy conclusion. Ross |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 31 May 12 - 07:50 AM Thanks, Bradfordian and Ross, for the kind words and your appreciation of this effort. I don't think I've enjoyed a project as much as this one. The poems are inspiring, for sure. But following the trail of Cicely Fox Smith led me to many far distant lands, and many new friends were made during the journey. Our publisher Michael Linnard is also British and should be able to crack the UK market for this book. We should see if there is a way to market it via Chantey Cabin, although they don't normally sell books. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Ross Campbell Date: 31 May 12 - 02:13 PM Ken & Jan occasionally post here as guests. The Chantey Cabin has always carried a selection of second-hand books on nautical/sea-song subjects which they passed on for little or no profit. They would be well aware of the interest in the sung versions of Cicely Fox Smith's poems, and may well look favourably on your proposals. All the best! Ross |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: SINSULL Date: 31 May 12 - 02:18 PM Well done, Charlie. Now how do we get autographed copies? Mary |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 31 May 12 - 03:46 PM Did Cicely write the poem about a ship in the bottle with the phrase "flying fish weather" in it? |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: GUEST,sciencegeek Date: 31 May 12 - 03:46 PM Well done, Charlie. Now how do we get autographed copies? Mary - the BEST way is to snag him at the Mystic Sea Music Festival with copy in hand! that way you can also Jim's "JohnHancock" shameless plug :D |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: GUEST,bradfordian Date: 31 May 12 - 05:26 PM Yes Leeneia, it's here bradfordian |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 31 May 12 - 05:26 PM leeneia- "Did Cicely write the poem about a ship in the bottle with the phrase 'flying fish weather' in it?" Yes, and I adapted it for singing, lyrics and MP3 sample on my website: www.charlieipcar.com And both Jim Saville and myself will be at the Mystic Sea Music Festival from next Thursday through Sunday. You'll have to purchase the books from the shed at Lighthouse Point where they sell CDs. We won't be selling them directly ourselves but we'll be happy to sign all the ones you purchase. If we really have it together, we'll pre-sign them. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 01 Jun 12 - 08:13 AM I'm interested in buying the book, but I can't find it on amazon or the Little Red Tree site. When the book is available for purchase at either of those places, will you please revive this thread? Sunday (June 9th) is an important day for both of us. You'll be in CT till then, and I'll be in TX. So, on a day after June 9th, please post that the book is available for purchase. Otherwise I may forget to do anything. |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 01 Jun 12 - 09:54 AM Leeneia- I've had no trouble finding the book listed for sale at Amazon. Try this link: click here for book! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 01 Jun 12 - 03:16 PM A number of Cicely Fox Smith's books are available at amazon.ca, but not this compilation. |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 01 Jun 12 - 03:18 PM amazon.ca now lists this book as currently unavailable. |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 01 Jun 12 - 03:54 PM Bill- I'll suggest to our publisher that he establish an account with amazon.ca Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 01 Jun 12 - 05:06 PM Please do establish an account with amazon.ca Us poor Canadians get books and music postfree from them if our order is over about $25. |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 01 Jun 12 - 06:42 PM Bill- Or I could deliver a copy to your door! Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Jeri Date: 01 Jun 12 - 08:14 PM 1. Who is "Bill"? (Not that I need to know.) 2. I just ordered it from Amazon/Mud 3. Amazon said they had three copies. Now they will have two. They might need some more depending on what they started with. ETA June 19th-25th. |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 01 Jun 12 - 08:45 PM Jeri- Nice to know another of these books will find a good home. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 02 Jun 12 - 03:09 PM Jeri- I'm not sure how I came up with "Bill" if I can be frank about it! There are times I mix up who I am myself. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 02 Jun 12 - 03:18 PM Thanks for the link, Charley. I placed an order. |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 03 Jun 12 - 08:28 AM Thank you for doing this! About time a book like this existed. The amazing thing is the way that the very existence of Cicely Fox Smith has been virtually ignored by the whole literary establishment - not even a mention in reference books such as The Oxford Companion to Engish Literature. However I see that Amazon UK still fails to acknowledge this book exists. Perhaps after official pubication date that might change. Might... |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 03 Jun 12 - 08:54 AM McGrath- C. Fox Smith was quite successful in gaining literary and public recognition in her own time. That's quite evident considering her publication record, and the major publishers who began working with her during the World War 1 period. And the contemporary reviews support that conclusion. Actually, she did amazingly well considering how young she was when she got her first poetry books published. However, after the 1930s, interest in her work appeared to decline, only to be revived in the late 1990s by our folk music community; there are few if any other major poets who have had 90 of their poems adapted for singing. Why interest declined is a question we'd like to have explored some more. Was it because she was a stronged-willed woman who did not fit in with the literary establishment? Did literary tastes shift from her style of poetry and her long term interest in the Age of Sail? She certainly did not stop writing excellent poetry, some of which continued to be published in Punch magazine until the year of her death in 1954. Perhaps, the publication of our book will provoke some serious interest if this poet from contemporary literary historians. We would hope so but we won't hold our breath. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Jeri Date: 13 Jun 12 - 09:16 PM Today when I returned home from work, my copy was tucked into my door. It is PACKED full of poems. I read a random few, but I'm looking forward to diving in and reading seriously. |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 13 Jun 12 - 09:40 PM Jeri- So nice to hear another of our books has found a good home. We sold 14 of the little darlings at Mystic. We had a wonderful time talking about the book and Cicely's life with the publisher and his assistant at dinner Thursday before the concert, and again on Sunday evening when we discussed the positive reaction of folks at the Festival to the launching of the book. Jim and I will be bringing some to the Press Room next Saturday for show and tell. We were concerned with how the book would look at 7" X 10" but it seems to work quite well, and is readily readable at 12 point font. Still, we'd love to see a hardcover edition at 8.5" X 11". Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Cool Beans Date: 14 Jun 12 - 12:46 PM Congratulations, Charley!! Marty |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: sciencegeek Date: 14 Jun 12 - 03:37 PM Charley... did you sell them at Mystic or put them up for adoption... it was a bit hard to tell... lol as to knowing about her work, Mike & I were talking with Stan Hugill during our early festival days and he emphatically pronounced that C. Fox Smith was the finest writer of nautical poetry, bar none. Of course, being the days before the web & Google ( which I only knew as a name for a REALLY BIG Number) and located in the US of A, we couldn't locate any of "his" books. Stan failed to mention that the C stood for Cicely. Not sure if had any of Basil Lubbock's books at the time, because some of her work is to be found there. It took awhile, but thanks to you guys & other unsung sleuths, we have the fruits of your labor to enjoy. |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 14 Jun 12 - 05:31 PM Sciencegeek- Thanks for the appreciation and information. Jim and I paid a visit to the Maine Maritime Museum today. One of our missions was to stop at the Museum Store and unlike Mystic (book buying decisions are run out of San Diego!) their store manager has full authority to order books and copies of my new CD. She was actually enthusiastic and ordered two copies of the book and four of the CDs. My God, how the money rolls in! The best price for buyers remains at Amazon.com but if you happen to be at the Press Room this Saturday for the sea music session Jim and I will have a set for sale. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: ChanteyLass Date: 17 Jun 12 - 03:16 PM I'm sorry your first storytelling workshop at Mystic ended abruptly and that I couldn't make it to another. I would have liked to hear more. |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 17 Jun 12 - 03:27 PM One of the presenters fainted during that workshop but we have since learned that she is recovering and getting a full medical evaluation. Fortunately there were four Mystic volunteer staff people in attendance who were thoroughly familiar with emergency procedures. Jim and I filled in for her in the subsequent workshop. Jim and I sold a couple more books at the Press Room sea music gathering on Saturday. I'm working on the Portland newspapers now for a literary review. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: ChanteyLass Date: 17 Jun 12 - 03:58 PM Glad to get the update on her condition. I'm glad that she is getting a med eval and hope this was in fact a recurrence of her chronic condition and not something new. |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 22 Jun 12 - 12:27 PM Here's a public link to some photos that Judy took of Jim and my presentation of poems and songs at the recent Mystic Sea Music Festival (2012), at the Figurehead Gallery of the Mystic Seaport Museum: Click here for PIXS! Thanks again to the Connecticut Storytellers for sharing their stage with us. No figureheads were abused in our presentations. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: ChanteyLass Date: 23 Jun 12 - 12:32 AM Just stopping by to reiterate that if people notice some empty spaces on the walls of the Figurehead Gallery, some of the figureheads have been moved to the Treasures from the Collection exhibit. That was done before Charlie and Jim arrived. I know because I saw it on Memorial Day. Don't blame them--or me! |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 23 Jun 12 - 08:45 AM ChanteyLass- Thanks! It's true that some viewers might have assumed that those figureheads figured out who was coming and exited in alarm. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Artful Codger Date: 23 Jun 12 - 11:12 PM Perhaps they were warned Charlie and Jim were coming. {ducks} |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 24 Jun 12 - 11:11 AM Not one of those figureheads cracked a smile when I told my joke about the two figureheads coming into a bar and asking for a round of Cutty Sark Scotch and Drambuie rusty nails. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: ChanteyLass Date: 24 Jun 12 - 11:00 PM Ah, but did the audience members smile? Rusty nails. Yum. Nowadays I have to tell most bartenders how to make them, though they know how to make 15 or more varieties of pseudo-martinis. |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 25 Jun 12 - 08:33 AM Some may wonder how we plan to market this book? Glad you asked! Little Red Tree Publishing in Mystic doesn't have a marketing budget; we take turns with the publisher treating each other to lunch or dinner! So that pretty much leaves the marketing up to word of mouth, assisted by internet chat. We've looking for suggestions for good reviewers, reviewers who have some sense of nautical poetry as practiced by Masefield and Fox Smith in the early 20th century and who might be intrigued with the story of a young woman who rose to prominence in a "man's field." I'm also planning a couple of tours, Chicago and Virginia/Maryland, this summer. The Chicago foray will be from August 4 to August 12. The venture south will begin September 28 with Getaway Weekend (Annapolis area), shift to Richmond, and then to Newport News/Norfolk with Bob Zentz, through October 7th. I'm looking for bookstores, nautical music sessions, and other special events that I can tie in with while demonstrating how the poems have been adapted for singing and describing how Cicely went about her work. Jim Saville in England will be looking for similar opportunities to promote the book. On a related front, Bob Zentz will soon be publishing his own songbook of the two dozen or so Cicely Fox Smith poems he has adapted for singing and recorded. That added to my own songbook will cover more than 50 poems. We'll continue to encourage folks in the UK to pull together a 3rd volume, which would bring the number to more than 80 poems so adapted and recorded, some with multiple settings. We're happy to follow up new leads with regard to any of the above. The book is solid, and we'd love it to reach far beyond out nautical folk music community. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Dave Earl Date: 25 Jun 12 - 08:51 AM Ordered my copy today from Amazon Expect to recieve it in a week or two Dave |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: ChanteyLass Date: 25 Jun 12 - 05:04 PM did you talk to Jon Campbell about this at Mystic? He might have some ideas. |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 25 Jun 12 - 05:22 PM Thanks, Dave! We'll definitely do a book-signing in New London in the Fall. Jon is certainly full of creative ideas but I didn't know one of his strong suits was marketing books. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 26 Jun 12 - 01:29 PM I thought I had ordered the book, but something must have done wrong. I ordered it again - using the page where Mudcat gets a cut, of course. Does 'Cicely' rhyme with 'nicely'? |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 26 Jun 12 - 07:43 PM leeneia- Precisely! Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: ChanteyLass Date: 26 Jun 12 - 10:51 PM Re: Jon--I thought he might be able to tell you places that might take some to sell in the RI area and possibly some places where you could do book talks/singing. Although I had previously suggested New Bedford's Working Waterfront Festival as a venue for presenting your children's books, it might also work with this. However, it conflicts with Portsmouth's Festival, and I'm sure it is booked for this fall. You might also try to do a presentation at the New Bedford Whaling Museum. |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 27 Jun 12 - 09:08 AM "New Bedford's Working Waterfront Festival as a venue for presenting your children's books, it might also work with this. However, it conflicts with Portsmouth's Festival" Which also conflict with the Getaway-DC this year near Annapolis MD, where we're scheduled to be the last week of September. Next year, I'm trying to pull together a Pacific Northwest tour which would culminate in Victoria, BC, where many of C. Fox Smith's poems were inspired. That would give me the opportunity of personally thanking the Victoria research volunteers who nailed down important details of her residency there. Contacting the publisher directly or Amazon.com seems to be the most efficient way to purchase the book. I have copies also if you see me but they are very expensive to ship out, weighing 2.5 lbs. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 27 Jun 12 - 09:21 AM I ordered from Amazon, at the page where the Mudcat gets a cut. The price was down from a month ago, and I got free shipping. Here's the URL for the page where Mudcat gets a cut. Use it always. http://www.amazon.com/?ie=UTF8&%2AVersion%2A=1&tag=themudcatcaf&link_code=hom&%2Aentries%2A=0 |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Dave Earl Date: 14 Jul 12 - 09:45 AM My copy arrived this morning. Only had the briefest look into it as I was just about to leave for work when it arrived. Day off tomorrow so I expect to have my nose in the book all day. Dave |
Subject: RE: Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith Book From: Charley Noble Date: 14 Jul 12 - 09:57 AM Dave- We'll be interested in your full report! Since the book was published one of our intrepid volunteers in the UK harvested two more poems from Punch magazine, which we had missed. Here's one of them: Remember, Remember…. "'Remember, remember the Fifth o' November' was what we used to say When I was a nipper in Rother'ithe an' it come round Guy Fawkes Day, With an 'andful o' squibs an' a cracker or two an' a gunny sack stuffed with 'ay." "'Remember, remember the Fifth o' November,' bangin' an old tin can, But I've 'ad bonfires enough, Lord knows, since them old days," said Dan; "An' I'll remember the Fifth o' November while I'm a livin' man." "I was in the old barque Brig o' Doon, Clyde-built in 'seventy-three; A rare old flyer too she'd been – you'd know the ship maybe – An' we loaded coal at Barry Dock an' sailed for the China Sea." "An' first it started smellin' a bit an' then it got smokin', Till we couldn't see the royal yards nor lift a stave for chokin'; An' it kep' on gainin' all the while as if Old Nick was stokin'." "Ten mortal days we fought it, an' the tenth we 'ad to clear, An' of all the blessed days there are in all the blessed year The day we left was the Fifth o' November as true as I stand 'ere." "The sun dropped sudden like a stone; the stars came out to stare In their beastly cold off-handed way as if they didn't care What made the sea one bloomin' flame an' the sky one bloomin' glare." "All night we watched the old ship burn like fellers in a dream; We saw the sparks fall far an' wide from every bubblin' seam; Like smoke from a hundred burnin' ghauts we saw the black smoke stream." "We saw 'er yards come crashin' down, 'er masts fall one by one; All up 'er shrouds we watched the flames like lightnin' leap an' run, Till the dawn come like a scarlet flower an' she was all but done." "Nothin' left but a blackened hull of 'er as looked so fine With decks like snow an' swellin' sails an' brasses all one shine, An' all her flyin' kites aloft, rollin' down to the Line." "Nothin' at all but the burnt-out shell of what she used to be; An' me – I 'ad to turn my 'ead; I didn't want to see; For she was a grand old ship, Lord knows, an' a good old ship to me – An' I'll remember the Fifth o' November as long's I live," said he. From Punch magazine, Volume 169, November 4, 1925, p. 490. "Dan" recalls the flaming demise of one of his favorite old ships, doomed by the spontaneous combustion of her cargo of wet coal. There are probably a dozen or more poems we've missed harvested, not in Punch but in other periodicals that she published in. If you think you've found one, check the inventory on her page at allpoetry.com or send me a PM. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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