BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations

Subject: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 06:34 AM

Apart from the weather, this promises to be a wonderful celebration of the Queen's Diamond Jubilee. There are so many events to choose from!

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 08:24 AM

We're all looking forward to the events planned in our village Bonzo. A marquee is being used in the vicar's garden for sedate old people's 'teas' then whisked away to the village green for more rumbustious things on Monday (beer tent and hog roast, dog show and children's races - whoopee!) A litle decorated horse-drawn trap will arrive with two excited children dressed as Her Maj and Prince Philip. She'll sit on a little throne and be 'crowned', then all the children will receive a special engraved medal on a ribbon and a waving flag. The church bells are scheduled to ring on cue and we'll sing the National Anthem. Then dancing and a bouncy castle, ice creams and a maypole. In fact, the epitomy of England at its best. I can't wait!

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Beer
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 08:31 AM

Have a great celebration.
Adrien

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 08:45 AM

I haven't started drinking the beer yet, but as you can see, I can't spell 'little' or 'epitome'!

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: alanabit
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 10:35 AM

I wish you good weather and a good time. I would not want to spoil anyone's party. My heroes are more Jack Cade, Wat Tyler and Tony Benn... No wish to rain on anyone else's parade though. Each to his or her own!

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 12:45 PM

Enjoy! I may have a boo at some of the proceedings. The concert sounds like it might be okay... >;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 01:24 PM

Have just made 4 dozen sausage rolls and 2 large fruit cakes. The weather forecast doesn't look too cracky does it?

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 01:59 PM

The Queen is revoltingly rich yet her hubbie pulls in over three hundred grand of public money per annum. What's up with you lot?

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 02:13 PM

The grand affair will bring in tourists and will make merchants and hoteliers and employees of all entities concerned happy. The money brought in will far exceed the cost of the Monarchy.

The Queen is caretaker of many of UK's historical and artistic holdings. Dispersing her wealth would serve no purpose except destruction of what has become a grand tradition.

Echoing Beer, "Have a grest celebration."

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 02:15 PM

Can't speak for the other people, but for me, it's all about our local community getting together for a lovely weekend of fun and social events. It's also about pride in our country and looking back over the last sixty years with a bit of nostalgia. I feel the Queen has served us well. But I do realise that not everyone feels the same.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 04:04 PM

There's no room for extra tourists on a bank holiday. In any case, the tourist dough the royal parasites allegedly bring in is open to severe doubt. File under Received Wisdom. The Queen is not the caretaker of many of the UK's historical and artistic holdings. She and her ancestors stole them. A rich landowner spotted a tramp in his field. He went up to him and ordered him to get off his land.

"And how did you come by this land?" asked the tramp.

"Why, my ancestors fought for it!"

The tramp, taking off his jacket, said, "All right then. Come on, I'll fight you for it now!"

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Janie
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 04:10 PM

It is difficult for this 10th generation American to comprehend the significance of the long tradition of monarchy and what it may symbolize, positive and negative,to those of you raised in countries with that tradition. One of the reasons I so enjoy Mudcat is the opportunity to read and learn from threads such as this might develop into.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 04:11 PM

Stole them from whom, Steve? I think Geronimo and Chief Seattle and one or two others might have had something to say about 'stolen' land.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 04:21 PM

What do you mean, stole them from whom? Who made that land they own? Do you really think it's right for one person to own vast tracts of land, much of which she never visits, or great works of art that we are not allowed to see, or, at best, have to pay to see? Who was that great art made for? For the world's richest woman to hold as "investments"?

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 04:27 PM

Well... this has been done to death on many previous threads. Love or hate "the monarchy", Beth is one cool old broad and I salute her on her special day. Ya wanna bitch and moan about the royals and what you don't understand about what they actually do, start another thread or post to the many other threads of carping and misunderstanding. This thread is about the party. If you don't wanna attend the party... don't.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Beer
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 05:07 PM

Well said Gnu. I knew it wouldn't take long before someone came in and tried to spoil the party. How sad.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 06:43 PM

Tuff tittie. I will invade your obsequious, sycophantic thread if I like, just like people invade my threads. That's the interwebbie thingie for ye! Now get off yer knees and fight the good fight against inherited privilege! You wouldn't defend anyone else getting the level of state benefits they get! And sod the party! It's just the Tories hoping we'll forget!

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 06:56 PM

The miserable sod's just exhibiting the usual malicious envy of anybody with a bit more dosh.

If he'd inherited a couple of hundred grand his attitude would be completely different.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 07:06 PM

And how do you know I haven't? And why on earth would I be envious of a bunch of regally-inbred dimwits who all had the best education available on the planet yet couldn't be raised above the level of the seriously mediocre?

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 07:10 PM

I doubt anyone would leave him a penny with that attitude.

"obsequious, sycophantic"??? Off with his head! Heheheheheee.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: GUEST,Allan Conn
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 07:11 PM

Seems to me the different parts of the country are getting more and more different. I'm in the Scottish Borders and there is complete indifference as far as the jubilee goes. I don't know of any events - though there may in fact be some but if there are it is very low key. I've just been to an annual village fete today and I don't think I heard the jubilee being mentioned once. The ailses in Sainsbury's are bedecked with union flags. That seems to be the only difference!

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 07:12 PM

Which just shows how little you really know about any of them.

But you would like to be right to justify your totally unreasoning hatred of people who have done you absolutely no harm.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 07:28 PM

Oh-oh... Don... easy... can o' worms lad.

Please let's just stick to the celebration? I mean, she did a pretty good job given the job. Wish I has her resumé next time I applied for a job at Walmart. Do greeters get to wear a crown? I suppose carrying a scepter is out?

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 07:33 PM

I've already given you my reasons. Now give me your reasons for supporting these parasites who are only there because millions died in wars to keep this country from becoming a fascist state but whose descendants are routinely shat on by the "upper classes" that the royals represent. Give me your reasons as to why the world's richest family receive £32 million per annum from taxpayers. Tell me why you are so fond of a family whose numero uno heir to the throne was purportedly shagging his mistress on his stag night before marrying Diana next day. Tell me what you suppose Phil The Greek does for the third of a million he gets from us every year. This lot are the archetypal piss-takers, Don!

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 07:35 PM

The only reason for thinking she's done a pretty good job (pretty part-time too, I should add) is that she tends to keep her gob shut. Very sensible, considering her limited intellect. If only her number one son would follow suit.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 07:59 PM

",,,these parasites who are only there because millions died in wars to keep this country from becoming a fascist state ..."

You mean the Nazis would have got rid of them? And a lot of the rest of us as well. No doubt the British Reich would have been some kind of republic.

Seems to me the idea of the Jubilee is primarily to celebrate the rest of us who've been around over the past sixty years, and we deserve it.

I get irritated at the way people talk about all this as if somehow the royal stuff was imposed on us by the royals as individuals. They're only there doing it because that is what people actually want. It's a kind of family of public slaves, very comfortable slaves, that's true, but totally owned by us, there to perform for us.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 08:23 PM

People actually want hanging, flogging, caning, conscription, sending the blackies back to Bongo-Bongo Land and a dozen other desirable things. Yeah, give the people what they bloody want!

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 08:30 PM

What don't you understand about start YER OWN FUCKIN THREAD?

Everyone who posts to this thread not in celebration of this occasion is simply showing their true colours... ignorance and ill manners. Seriously, your asses shine bright red. Too bad your intelligence is so dim in comparison.

There have been threads in the past for your discussions. You can recall one. You can start your own if you are not able to do a simple filter search for past threads. But, again, seriously, posting your shite to this thread only demonstrates you are an ass.

You have a right to your opinion and protest but THIS is not your parade. Go march your goose step somewhere else.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 08:41 PM

Don't be so silly. No thread may be declared sacrosanct by you or anyone else. A large minority of people in this country vehemently oppose the royal parasites. You don't get to keep a thread pure just because the old bugger has managed to preserve herself well beyond her use-by date. I dare say that any thread opposing the royals would be rapidly invaded by a bunch of royal sucker-upperers.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 08:43 PM

Incidentally:

...start YER OWN FUCKIN THREAD?

Everyone who posts to this thread not in celebration of this occasion is simply showing their true colours... ignorance and ill manners. Seriously, your asses shine bright red.

Your lack of irony is amazing!

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Beer
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 09:27 PM

Steve,
I don't know you nor do i know how old you are. But here is a question. have you ever served your Country? Did you know that your Queen did.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 09:51 PM

Many people will enjoy these celebrations. I hope the weather is better than predicted!

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 02:31 AM

What do you mean, stole them from whom? Who made that land they own? Do you really think it's right for one person to own vast tracts of land, much of which she never visits, or great works of art that we are not allowed to see, or, at best, have to pay to see? Who was that great art made for? For the world's richest woman to hold as "investments"?

Yes yes, there there, Steve!: we all know that Property Is Theft, as Marx didn't say {it was Proudhon IIRC}.

So did you "steal" YOUR house? YOUR watch? YOUR car? YOUR ties and shirts and trousers? then, eh?

Oh, grow up...

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Dead Horse
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 03:25 AM

That pratt Shaw is a troll and gives socialism a bad name.
Ignore the little shite.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Will Fly
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 05:04 AM

What few people know is that the Queen is actually my agent. Once every 25 years or so I get an extra gig because of her - like today's lunchtime gig in my local.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 05:14 AM

Who can object to the river pageant?
1000 craft. Centuries of maritime tradition.
I wish I could see it live, but I will enjoy the broadcasts.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 05:14 AM

Glaze your arses and drink a toast to the queer old dean.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 05:29 AM

Ah, royalists are such pleasant charmers! 'Twas ever thus. I shall certainly raise a glass ce soir to go with my roast chicken (not coronation), but it will be something French or Italian, nothing fermented in a monarchy for me today! Have a nice day and don't let the gale-lashed bunting strangle you!

Interesting post, Metro The Goldwyn Mayer, which I'd love to tear you to shreds on in what passes for debate round here, but why spoil a beautiful, uncritical day!

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: banjoman
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 06:25 AM

I agree with steve shaw and a lot of what he says. I made my position clear in the thread in the music section asking for songs for the jubilee.Please read

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Megan L
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 06:30 AM

That is the wonderful thing about a free country you are free to give your opinion and everyone else is free to ignore it.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 06:32 AM

You think you are being funny about my name, Herr Schutzstaffel: but, in fact, Louis B Mayer, despite difference in spelling the Californian branch of my family uses, was my first cousin twice removed, i.e. my paternal grandfather's first cousin. So, as Private Eye wouldn't say ~~ Yes relation.

I am not an out-and-out royalist BTW, e.g. I think HM's sister Margaret was a snobbish spiteful obnoxious person. But I am a great believer in the principles of "Ain't broke, don't fix"; "Baby'n'bathwater"; Unintended Consequences...

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 06:57 AM

Well, at Holy Communion this morning we said the special Jubilee Prayer and sang the National Anthem, and we all glowed with pride. I'm sorry that Steve and others don't share this feeling, but of course they have a perfect right to express their opinions. However, need they be so vituperative and insulting, not to mention abusive when posting? Such enormous anger and hate seem to me indicative of a rather unbalanced personality. I can't see how us villagers waving our flags and having fun can possibly do them any harm.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 07:15 AM

... and furthermore, Steve; seriously, as you seem to have seen some point in my previous post: on the Hegelian principle that there is a sort of balancing point at which a quantative difference becomes a qualitative one, at what precise point would you undertake to defend an assertion that so much ownership of property, as distinct from your ownership of your own socks & pussycat, could be convincingly denounced as unacceptable? And why?

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 07:27 AM

I'm sorry that Steve and others don't share this feeling, but of course they have a perfect right to express their opinions. However, need they be so vituperative and insulting, not to mention abusive when posting?

Sadly, Eliza, 'tis the wrong target. 'Tis the royalists on this thread who have reserved for themselves the monopoly over vituperation and insults, thus:

That pratt Shaw is a troll and gives socialism a bad name.
Ignore the little shite.

What don't you understand about start YER OWN FUCKIN THREAD?

Everyone who posts to this thread not in celebration of this occasion is simply showing their true colours... ignorance and ill manners. Seriously, your asses shine bright red. Too bad your intelligence is so dim in comparison... But, again, seriously, posting your shite to this thread only demonstrates you are an ass... Go march your goose step somewhere else.

The miserable sod's just exhibiting the usual malicious envy of anybody with a bit more dosh.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 07:29 AM

It's for another day, MtheGM. I didn't mean to take the Mick out of your name, by the way. Shall I call you "the" from now on, to be safe?

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 08:17 AM

No, OK Steve ~ didn't take it as Mickey-taking in any unacceptable way: just that people often make the connection in a facetious tone without realising there really is a connection & the initials are not purely adventitious.

I have endeavoured to avoid the merely vituperative and to answer your points with reason.

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: theleveller
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 08:21 AM

Wonderful jubilee protest! Nice one!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/republiccampaign/sets/72157630025677898

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: BrendanB
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 08:24 AM

I love the Jubilee, we have got two gigs because of it! Monday in a pub, which is good because the weather forecast is not great and Tuesday at a village barbecue party for which we are praying for good weather. I was in our local town yesterday which is all buntinged up and everyone was being very jolly, doesn't seem like a bad thing to me.

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 08:32 AM

Isn't God supposed to be the ultimate arbiter in all this? What are you supposed to believe about the 'Divine Right of Kings (Queens?)' if you don't believe in God?

God save the Queen! From what, exactly?

Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jun 12 - 09:06 AM

I have endeavoured to avoid the merely vituperative and to answer your points with reason.

Then, the, you have signally failed, as you've just called me "Steve-Fatgob" in a thread not unrelated to this!