Subject: Most haunting melodies? From: M. Ted (inactive) Date: 19 Oct 99 - 06:51 PM Some one was asking about "the Maid in Bedlam" a while back, and I have been obsessed with the tune ever since-- I am wondering if people would care to list other melodies that have sad, and perhaps slightly mournful--"haunting" qualities about them--The lyrics don't matter, at least not so much, as the tune being that sort that sort of lingers in the misty recesses of the soul, so to speak--
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Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Melbert Date: 19 Oct 99 - 07:17 PM How about "She walked through the fair"? |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: kendall Date: 19 Oct 99 - 07:18 PM Unchained melody |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: bill\sables Date: 19 Oct 99 - 07:37 PM Hard Times come again no more and Time has made a change in me, the latter especially sung by Caroline Paton Cheers Bill |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: John of the Hill Date: 19 Oct 99 - 07:46 PM Inisheer, a tune composed by Thomas Walsh as performed by Buttons and Bows. A modern tune that sounds timeless. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Melbert Date: 19 Oct 99 - 07:52 PM WOT A ROTTEN TRICK TO PLAY! I can't get to sleep now @cos that rotten tune keeps going through my head! |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 19 Oct 99 - 07:55 PM Also "Lord Haddo's Favourite", "The Sheep Under the Snow" (Ny Kirree Fo Naghtey) and "Mrs. Jamieson's Favourite"... Malcolm |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: MMario Date: 19 Oct 99 - 08:36 PM 3 score and ten -- drove me crazy until I learned the words and could sing the thing to get it out.... |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Hutzul Date: 19 Oct 99 - 09:12 PM "Dumbarton's Drums" and/or "Maggie" - either one sung by the Furey's. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: catspaw49 Date: 19 Oct 99 - 09:21 PM Tough question in a way since its so difficult to separate a beautiful lyric from a wonderful melody. "Ashoken Farewell" comes to mind as it was originally done with no lyric. I remember I found it interesting to use it in Burn's Civil War saga as there were other "haunting" melodies from that period. AF has the added advantage of being a beautiful piece on damn near any instrument. I dunno'....Kazoo is probably a bit ridiculous, but............. Also, some songs are very different at different tempos too. I've gotten comments on both "Dixie" and "Yellow Rose of Texas" on Hammered as slow expressive ballads. Looking forward to more on this thread!!! Spaw |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Vixen Date: 19 Oct 99 - 09:30 PM Oh my-- I guess I "haunt" easily:
Amazing Grace Just for starters. V |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Charlie Baum Date: 19 Oct 99 - 09:41 PM Most anything Scots as sung by Jean Redpath, but especially Clerk Saunders and Eileen Aroon. --Charlie Baum |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Musicman Date: 19 Oct 99 - 10:11 PM After just completing my CD, I found several of the melodies chosen to have that particular character; the Aaron Boat, the Dark Island and farwell. I know part of it is in the recording, but the melodies themselves are quite gorgeous. Musicman |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Musicman Date: 19 Oct 99 - 10:26 PM sorry, Dark Island is here (i hope) |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jeri Date: 19 Oct 99 - 10:40 PM Question: I know Dark Island is a relatively recent composition, written for a UK TV show. Anybody know who wrote it? I've seen it listed as "trad" a bunch of places. MacCrimmon's Lament - I first heard Alasdair Fraser play this, then I heard Dick Gaughan sing the song. The melody is haunting, but so are the words. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: DonMeixner Date: 19 Oct 99 - 11:18 PM Sixteen Summers Fifteen Falls and Our Mother The Mountain by Townes Van Zandt. I Come And Stand At Every Door by Dr. Nazim Hikmet The Jeanie C by Stan Rogers ( an under appreciated song) The Lag's Song By Ewan MacColl The Leaving of Nancy by Eric Bogle Spainish is the Lovin' Tongue by Badger Clark, and others. Love Will Endure by Pat Sky Another endless list Don |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: McKnees Date: 19 Oct 99 - 11:22 PM The Hills of Ardmorn and Peggy Gordon are my two choices but there's bound to be tons more. They both have great words and for just a tune, Highland Cathedral, hairs on arms straight up. McKnees. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jon Freeman Date: 19 Oct 99 - 11:40 PM A couple of tunes rather than songs: The Tamlin, Farewell to Reason (Jeri Corlew) also seems to be having that effect on me. Jon |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Stewie Date: 20 Oct 99 - 03:32 AM Quiet Land of Erin, Donal Og, Carrickfergus |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Canberra Chris Date: 20 Oct 99 - 05:26 AM Ned of the Hill Samradh, samradh The Boat Theme from The Brendan Voyage suite The Great Silkie of Sule Skerrie |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Mbo Date: 20 Oct 99 - 08:00 AM Definately "Is Ar Eirinn Ni Nosfain Ce Hi (Dervish)," "Song of the Kelpie (Solas)," "It Belongs to Us (Dougie MacLean)," "Sitting In the Stern of A Boat (Alisdair Fraser)," Caoineadh Cu Chullain (Bill Whelan)," Magheracloone (Battlefield Band)," "Eliz Iza (Alan Stivell)," "Whispering Wind (Ronan Hardison)." Also the great Catalan folk song "Testement Al Amelia" and "Cancion" from "Piezas Caracteristicas" by Torroba (classical guitar favorites!) --Mbo |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: T in Oklahoma (Okiemockbird) Date: 20 Oct 99 - 09:53 AM Some of the Cantigas de Santa María , for example #259. (The URL for those blue clicky thingies is http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/cantigas/) T.
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Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Lesley N. Date: 20 Oct 99 - 09:56 AM This isn't much use really, but Dark Island was written in 1963.... I have an e-mail somewhere from Barry (Taylor) that gave more information - but can't place it at the moment - I'll keep looking.
I do think it's listed a lot of places as traditional because so many people copied Barry's site and put up his entire site on their space - and their version of his pages is before he took it off.
On the other hand I still have a lot of people writing me insisting that Today is traditional because it was sung in a movie set a long time ago... (that one would be Advance to the Rear with Glen Ford - which notes "Music by Randy Sparks)... And although not traditional, it is certainly a haunting melody along the same lines as Believe Me If All Those Endearing Young Charms and Drink to Me Only With Thine Eyes... (says Lesley who has the most unromantic life in entire galaxy...)
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Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Rick Fielding Date: 20 Oct 99 - 10:16 AM "Mist Covered Mountains", Duet from Beethoven's 7th, oh damn, there are thousands! That's why I got into music. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Bert Date: 20 Oct 99 - 10:47 AM Waters of Tyne |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jack (Who is called Jack) Date: 20 Oct 99 - 11:03 AM There are a lot. A few that come to mind are Finlandia I think its gonna rain today Summertime Rollin down to old Maui |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Magpie Date: 20 Oct 99 - 11:30 AM Oh man, look what you've started!!! BOYS OF BARR NA SRAIDE BELLS OF DUNBLANE THE BAND PLAYED WALTZING MATHILDA WHERE YOU THERE (as done by Johnny Cash(!) GIVE ME YOUR HAND (TAHBAIR DOM DO LAMH) done slowly Oh I could go on and on and on and on and on..... Magpie |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Davey Date: 20 Oct 99 - 12:08 PM Jim Stewart, of St. John, New Brunswick (that's in Canada *Grin*) wrote a tune called Lament for Owen Christie, in memory of the Irish immigrants that came to Canada during the potato famine in the 1800s. Many of them are buried on an island in St. John harbour, and Owen Christie is the name on one of the graves. Hearing the tune always sends chills down my spine. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Davey Date: 20 Oct 99 - 12:11 PM OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS, I posted that twice.... Slap... Sorry!!! |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Mían Date: 20 Oct 99 - 12:19 PM Who will Buy (from Oliver) Gaoth Bearra or GweeBarra The Wind That Shakes The Barley A Stór Mo Chroí Thuas ag Gort a Charnain (Dolores Kean) A Chumaraigh Aoibhinn Ó Amhran A Leabhair (David Finnamore) Cailín Na nUrla Donn (Seosaimhín Ní Bheaglaoich) The Maid of Culmore(Óige) Flower of Finae (Niamh Parsons) Black Waterside Beir Mo Dhúthracht (Begley & Cooney) Oh, my. There are so many. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Allan C. Date: 20 Oct 99 - 12:51 PM Awake Ye Drowsy Sleepers - as done by Ian & Sylvia Cruel Sister - you pick a version Molly Malone Lord Randall Sometimes I Feel Like A Motherless Child Every Night When the Sun Goes In Many, many others... |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: kendall Date: 20 Oct 99 - 12:59 PM Finlandia, absolutely.. and Owen Christy. Gordon Bok's Fundy, and anything played on the Andean pipes |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Ringer Date: 20 Oct 99 - 01:27 PM Opening bars of Beethoven's 4th piano concerto Closing moments of Vaughan Williams' Lark Ascending (the way that solo violin tails off, higher & higher, and eventually is no more - would be hair-raising if I had any) It's time to go now Banks of the Bann and many more |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: folk1234 Date: 20 Oct 99 - 02:14 PM Abbot's Bromley Dance, especially when acompanied by Morris Dancers and the deer |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Bill L Date: 20 Oct 99 - 02:54 PM Song for Ireland, Feather Bed, and always Midnight on the Water |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: M. Ted (inactive) Date: 20 Oct 99 - 03:07 PM I am lurking here, and have two thoughts--one I am also move by so many songs are listed, and two, there are many here that I wish I knew--many of you have provided a source--listed artists and records, and websites--I would appreciate it if people could do that, so I can find things that I am not familiar with--
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Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jeri Date: 20 Oct 99 - 03:10 PM Both of these are great to sin somewhere with a lot of echos: Betsy Bell and Mary Gray, and The Burning of Auchendoon. Lesley, thanks for the info on Dark Island. I remember a discussion on one of the newsgroups, and may try fishing for it a bit later. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jeri Date: 20 Oct 99 - 03:11 PM SING!!! I rarely get opportunities to do the other thing these days! |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jon Freeman Date: 20 Oct 99 - 03:27 PM M_Ted, I do not know whether the tunes I had listed are ones you have heard or not. Here is my MIDI arrangement of The Tam Lin . I don't know if Jeri has posted Farewell to Reason here or not but I will leave that to her. Jon |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Ely Date: 20 Oct 99 - 03:28 PM Dipper of Stars (Howie Mitchell) Amelia's (Bob McQuillan) Gaftai Baile Bui (not the correct spelling) Red Admiral Butterfly (aka Butterfly Jig) Flowers of Edinburgh Kitty Magennis (Turlough O'Carolan) Long list; it appears I'm easily haunted. Note: I think the tune to "I Come and Stand" is traditionally "the Great Selchie of Skule Skerry". |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: M. Ted (inactive) Date: 20 Oct 99 - 03:49 PM Jon, Is "The Tam Lin" supposed to be that quick? I seems like it is about 180-- |
Subject: Tune Add: FAREWELL TO REASON From: Jeri Date: 20 Oct 99 - 05:11 PM I only have FtoR as an ABC file, but I threw in a bonus tune. The very simple second one has no name yet. Jon, if you want to wave your magic MIDI wand at this, feel free.
T:FAREWELL TO REASON MIDI file: lament.mid Timebase: 192 Name: JCLament This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1
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Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: MMario Date: 20 Oct 99 - 05:32 PM I thought that was "Jeri's Lament"? And it is haunting... |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jon Freeman Date: 20 Oct 99 - 05:33 PM M_Ted you must have a good ear. It was 180. It is difficult to say what pace the Tam Lin should be played at and it is a tune that I have played very slowly and very quickly and for me it seems to work well both ways. If I was playing it in my local sessions, at a guess, I would be playing it at 200+ and I have heard it recorded by players who go faster than I do. Jon |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jon Freeman Date: 20 Oct 99 - 05:49 PM OK Jeri, but what I've done for now is put my start of an attempt at Farewell To Reason on my web space. Please note: This is the way I "hear" the tune and I think it is probably quite different to what Jeri would do with it. For M_Ted, I have even changed from the 3/4 time Jeri gives to using 6/8 on this version. Jon (Off to catch last orders and have his pints for Bert :-)) |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jeri Date: 20 Oct 99 - 05:58 PM Great work, Jon!!! It's faster than I would play it, but big deal, so what. (The second tune is called "Frosty's Denial.") |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Penny S. Date: 20 Oct 99 - 06:01 PM Not folk, but "Stranger on the Shore" by Acker Bilk. It was the theme of a BBC series for children, years back, about a foreign exchange student in, I think, Brighton. It sounds quite good on tenor recorder, as well as clarinet. Penny |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: katlaughing Date: 20 Oct 99 - 06:25 PM Jeri, great tune! Thanks, Jon, it sounds great! There are so many, as most of you mentioned. Here are a few I can think of right off: So Lonesome I COuld Cry Spanish Point by Declan Masterson
Ou Sube a Terra by Fia Na Roca and, The Drowning Plains piped by Mychal & Jeff Danna Carolan's #171 Are You Sleeping, Maggie? done by Dougie MacLean Lover's Waltz - Molly Mason & Jay Ungar Shake Sugaree - done by Art Thieme on his Folk Legacy cassette "That's The Ticket" Can't Understand - Laura Love anything on Ronroco by Gustavo Santaolalla everything on Donovan's Sutras The Gaberlunzieman - Andy M. Stewart King of the Blues - Deanta Beethoven's Violin Concerto in D Major (his only one!) The Magic Flute - Mozart La Boheme - Puccini My brother's Romance No 1 and Romance No 2 for piano; his songs: Evenings in Crsytal; Flowers of Summer; and, Karmic Lover Sheesh, that's JUSt the tip of the iceberg! |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jon Freeman Date: 20 Oct 99 - 06:32 PM I'll apologise here as I put the link here. I was in a hurry to get to the pub when I put Jeri's tune up - I forgot to chop Frosty's denial from it. Having said that, I think the Frosty's Denial is a tune well worth learning. Jon |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jon Freeman Date: 20 Oct 99 - 06:37 PM What I did not mention in my previous post was that Frosty's Denial was also written by Jeri. Jon |
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