Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: kendall Date: 21 Oct 99 - 07:20 PM Lorena has always been one of my favorites too.. thats why I recorded it for Folk Legacy long time back.. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jon Freeman Date: 21 Oct 99 - 06:39 PM Jeri, the one comment I will make here is that I am finding Mudcat a great place - so many friendly people who share a common interest and an amazing depth of knowledge to go with it. I subscribe to music newsgroups as well (as do others here) and again there are some incredibly knowledgeable people there but I think that Mudcat is unique in the way it combines the musical interest with a friendly atmosphere. Jon |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: JedMarum Date: 21 Oct 99 - 06:32 PM my top three votes for haunting melodies: ashoken farewell shenandoah ghost riders in the sky Oh - and who could leave out Lorena? |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jeri Date: 21 Oct 99 - 05:49 PM M. Ted, Jon said it. I sent him simple melody lines, everything else in that MIDI is his own. Didn't he do a hell of a job of arranging? Jon, don't talk about your brain that way - it has friends here! |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Blackcat2 Date: 21 Oct 99 - 03:59 PM wow great tunes! mine would include Jesse Winchester's Coast of Marsailles, Skye Boat song, Foggy Dew, anything slow played on a japanese Bamboo flute, and Ashokan Farewell - I loved that tune so much I wrote a lament for Diana of Wales a couple years back using the tune. Pax
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Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jon Freeman Date: 21 Oct 99 - 03:39 PM M_Ted, I wrote the second part and I am afraid that your question is beyond my musical knowledge. I had started to play around with Jeri's tunes a few weeks ago (and then my stupid brain got stuck) and all I can tell you is I just added what entered into my head. When Jeri suggested a midi as well as the ABC that she had supplied, it seemed to me that the quickest solution to give an idea of what the melody sounded like was simply to put my existing MIDI onto my web space and provide a link to it here. Jon |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Oct 99 - 03:02 PM Ted -- What ZAP!!! My mind immediately focused (unusual) back to a small Salvation Army band on a corner in downtown Columbus during one of those slushy,gray, Christmastime days...well, there's no explaining it, but what a rush. This place is often funny that way. Spaw |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: sophocleese Date: 21 Oct 99 - 02:51 PM Some scottish tunes, The Boatman, My Luv's in Germanie, The Haunting, Annachie Gordon. A few years ago I heard trumpet player play a beautiful new composition called Prayer to St. Gregory, I can't remember the composer but I remember how spellbound I was hearing it ringing through a church on a snowy December night. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: M. Ted (inactive) Date: 21 Oct 99 - 02:39 PM Spaw is right, but no matter how many tears are shed, it is never enough-- Jon, thank you for the MIDI of Jeri's tune-- Jeri--is the counterpoint melody actually a harmony to the melody, that you have offset? Kat, the realplayer crashed every time I tried to play the Keith Bear samples-- I particularly appreciate the classical melodies that people have mentioned, the Beethoven Violin Concerto was serendipitous--my 17 year old daughter and I were listening to it on the radio, and both were enamoured-- she usually is a NIN fan-- "Stranger on the Shore" was a childhood favorite of mine--Aker Bilk's clarinet has that most remarkable ability to evoke a time that is no more-- I remember years ago, in the bitter winters of my Michigan youth, a pair of Salvation Army musicians (a cornet and and alto horn) who played "Good King Wenceslaus" at the entrance of a discount deparment store in a stark and tawdry strip mall-- Funny how these things stay with you--
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Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: kendall Date: 21 Oct 99 - 02:33 PM Slow Dance from Machu Michu on Folk Legacy, Gordon Bok |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Fortunato Date: 21 Oct 99 - 01:58 PM thank you Sandy the melody in my head came from a J.Baez album long ago, it was listed as traditional. Are they one and the same, I wonder. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Sandy Paton Date: 21 Oct 99 - 01:53 PM For the record: The tune Pete Seeger used for "I Come and Stand at Every Door" was originally written by Jim Waters for the ballad of the Great Silkie. He wrote it while he was attending college at MIT. Many years ago, he gave Folk-Legacy the copyright to help us release more recordings of field recordings. Only a few of those who have recorded the tune have honored the copyright, but Pete Seeger always has! Sandy |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Fortunato Date: 21 Oct 99 - 01:25 PM As Time Goes By I'm Beginning to See the Light Chinatown Great Silkie of Sule Skerie Wildwood Flower Summer Wages (Ian Tyson) See That My Grave is Kept Clean and most of all: Lorena
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Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Mían Date: 21 Oct 99 - 01:15 PM Angel (Sara McLaughlin) Blue Tears in Heaven Erik Satie piano pieces |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Oct 99 - 12:55 PM Good Christ, there's enough material here for us to have a "Cry-A-Thon" that would fill Lake Superior....... Spaw |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Susan-Marie Date: 21 Oct 99 - 12:32 PM Neil Gow's Lament on the Death of His Second Wife is haunting in the way Askoken Farewell and Give Me Your Hand are...(it's on Dougie MacLean's Tribute CD). |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Warren Date: 21 Oct 99 - 12:25 AM Wow ... great thread I'm so lonesome I could cry (Hank) I can't help it if I'm still in love with you (Hank) "She's got you," & "I fall to pieces" (Patsy) I still miss someone (Johnny Cash) Bury me beneat the willow (traditional ?) Wondrous love (what wondrous love is this) and If I were a featherbed (John McCutcheon - I think he wrote it, I know he played it) - Warren wtbush@yahoo.com |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: lamarca Date: 20 Oct 99 - 11:59 PM I agree with Rick - Mist Covered Mountains is one that stays with me. Anyone else ever hear the version Mark Knopfler did in his soundtrack for Local Hero? She Moves Through the Fair (though Mrs. Akroyd Band almost ruined it for me...) Aqaba - Bill Caddick song, sung by June Tabor the Finale of Bernstein's West Side Story, as they're carrying Tony's body offstage. I worked a follow spot for a 2 week run of the show for community theater one summer, grew to loathe "I Feel Pretty", and still shiver when I remember that final scene and Bernstein's inspired score. "O Fortuna", the opening piece in Orff's Carmina Burana these are just a few that live in my mind for keeps... |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: katlaughing Date: 20 Oct 99 - 11:59 PM Forgot about several Native American tapes and cd's that I love for their haunting melodies, including one you can sample here Along the River, part of Keith Bear's echoes of the Upper Missouri Also early Carlos Nakai and just about anything by Coyote Oldman. Funny thing, one time I had on one of my NA flute tapes; received a phone call from some solicitor; she said she loved the Irish music I had on; blew her away when I told her what it was. Cute, Dan, verrrry cute!And, vat vill you be do-ink this Hal-oh-veen? |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: kendall Date: 20 Oct 99 - 10:34 PM Scottish Fantasy as played by Jasha Heifitz |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Lowden Unruly Date: 20 Oct 99 - 09:04 PM Ramble to Cashel and O'Carolans' Farewell Vissi D'arte and O Mio Babbino Caro - Puccini Chopins' Barrcarolle Ravels' Le Tombeau de Couperin 3rd movement West Coast of Clare -Planxty McCrimmons' Lament especially Dick Gaughns' with Aly Bain on fiddle.( thanks for reminding me Jeri, I'm hearing it right now) Farewell, Farewell by Fairport sung by Sandy Denny So Clear by Pentangle Midnight on the Water especially when sung by Kate Wolf and on and on , but these are some that really get to me. LU |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: John of the Hill Date: 20 Oct 99 - 07:19 PM Osibisa's original version of Woyaya, I haven't heard it in a long time, just recalling it moves me. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Ana Date: 20 Oct 99 - 07:05 PM Lagan Love (aah) She's like the Swallow... and lots of the other's already named! |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jeri Date: 20 Oct 99 - 07:02 PM Jon, share 'em wherever and whenever you want. I'm thrilled you like them enough to want to. Lots of Carolan's tunes fit the bill. Go listen to a few. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Liam's Brother Date: 20 Oct 99 - 06:44 PM Haunting? Why that would be... The Monster Mash! |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jon Freeman Date: 20 Oct 99 - 06:37 PM What I did not mention in my previous post was that Frosty's Denial was also written by Jeri. Jon |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jon Freeman Date: 20 Oct 99 - 06:32 PM I'll apologise here as I put the link here. I was in a hurry to get to the pub when I put Jeri's tune up - I forgot to chop Frosty's denial from it. Having said that, I think the Frosty's Denial is a tune well worth learning. Jon |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: katlaughing Date: 20 Oct 99 - 06:25 PM Jeri, great tune! Thanks, Jon, it sounds great! There are so many, as most of you mentioned. Here are a few I can think of right off: So Lonesome I COuld Cry Spanish Point by Declan Masterson
Ou Sube a Terra by Fia Na Roca and, The Drowning Plains piped by Mychal & Jeff Danna Carolan's #171 Are You Sleeping, Maggie? done by Dougie MacLean Lover's Waltz - Molly Mason & Jay Ungar Shake Sugaree - done by Art Thieme on his Folk Legacy cassette "That's The Ticket" Can't Understand - Laura Love anything on Ronroco by Gustavo Santaolalla everything on Donovan's Sutras The Gaberlunzieman - Andy M. Stewart King of the Blues - Deanta Beethoven's Violin Concerto in D Major (his only one!) The Magic Flute - Mozart La Boheme - Puccini My brother's Romance No 1 and Romance No 2 for piano; his songs: Evenings in Crsytal; Flowers of Summer; and, Karmic Lover Sheesh, that's JUSt the tip of the iceberg! |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Penny S. Date: 20 Oct 99 - 06:01 PM Not folk, but "Stranger on the Shore" by Acker Bilk. It was the theme of a BBC series for children, years back, about a foreign exchange student in, I think, Brighton. It sounds quite good on tenor recorder, as well as clarinet. Penny |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jeri Date: 20 Oct 99 - 05:58 PM Great work, Jon!!! It's faster than I would play it, but big deal, so what. (The second tune is called "Frosty's Denial.") |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jon Freeman Date: 20 Oct 99 - 05:49 PM OK Jeri, but what I've done for now is put my start of an attempt at Farewell To Reason on my web space. Please note: This is the way I "hear" the tune and I think it is probably quite different to what Jeri would do with it. For M_Ted, I have even changed from the 3/4 time Jeri gives to using 6/8 on this version. Jon (Off to catch last orders and have his pints for Bert :-)) |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jon Freeman Date: 20 Oct 99 - 05:33 PM M_Ted you must have a good ear. It was 180. It is difficult to say what pace the Tam Lin should be played at and it is a tune that I have played very slowly and very quickly and for me it seems to work well both ways. If I was playing it in my local sessions, at a guess, I would be playing it at 200+ and I have heard it recorded by players who go faster than I do. Jon |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: MMario Date: 20 Oct 99 - 05:32 PM I thought that was "Jeri's Lament"? And it is haunting... |
Subject: Tune Add: FAREWELL TO REASON From: Jeri Date: 20 Oct 99 - 05:11 PM I only have FtoR as an ABC file, but I threw in a bonus tune. The very simple second one has no name yet. Jon, if you want to wave your magic MIDI wand at this, feel free.
T:FAREWELL TO REASON MIDI file: lament.mid Timebase: 192 Name: JCLament This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1
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Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: M. Ted (inactive) Date: 20 Oct 99 - 03:49 PM Jon, Is "The Tam Lin" supposed to be that quick? I seems like it is about 180-- |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Ely Date: 20 Oct 99 - 03:28 PM Dipper of Stars (Howie Mitchell) Amelia's (Bob McQuillan) Gaftai Baile Bui (not the correct spelling) Red Admiral Butterfly (aka Butterfly Jig) Flowers of Edinburgh Kitty Magennis (Turlough O'Carolan) Long list; it appears I'm easily haunted. Note: I think the tune to "I Come and Stand" is traditionally "the Great Selchie of Skule Skerry". |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jon Freeman Date: 20 Oct 99 - 03:27 PM M_Ted, I do not know whether the tunes I had listed are ones you have heard or not. Here is my MIDI arrangement of The Tam Lin . I don't know if Jeri has posted Farewell to Reason here or not but I will leave that to her. Jon |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jeri Date: 20 Oct 99 - 03:11 PM SING!!! I rarely get opportunities to do the other thing these days! |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jeri Date: 20 Oct 99 - 03:10 PM Both of these are great to sin somewhere with a lot of echos: Betsy Bell and Mary Gray, and The Burning of Auchendoon. Lesley, thanks for the info on Dark Island. I remember a discussion on one of the newsgroups, and may try fishing for it a bit later. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: M. Ted (inactive) Date: 20 Oct 99 - 03:07 PM I am lurking here, and have two thoughts--one I am also move by so many songs are listed, and two, there are many here that I wish I knew--many of you have provided a source--listed artists and records, and websites--I would appreciate it if people could do that, so I can find things that I am not familiar with--
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Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Bill L Date: 20 Oct 99 - 02:54 PM Song for Ireland, Feather Bed, and always Midnight on the Water |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: folk1234 Date: 20 Oct 99 - 02:14 PM Abbot's Bromley Dance, especially when acompanied by Morris Dancers and the deer |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Ringer Date: 20 Oct 99 - 01:27 PM Opening bars of Beethoven's 4th piano concerto Closing moments of Vaughan Williams' Lark Ascending (the way that solo violin tails off, higher & higher, and eventually is no more - would be hair-raising if I had any) It's time to go now Banks of the Bann and many more |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: kendall Date: 20 Oct 99 - 12:59 PM Finlandia, absolutely.. and Owen Christy. Gordon Bok's Fundy, and anything played on the Andean pipes |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Allan C. Date: 20 Oct 99 - 12:51 PM Awake Ye Drowsy Sleepers - as done by Ian & Sylvia Cruel Sister - you pick a version Molly Malone Lord Randall Sometimes I Feel Like A Motherless Child Every Night When the Sun Goes In Many, many others... |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Mían Date: 20 Oct 99 - 12:19 PM Who will Buy (from Oliver) Gaoth Bearra or GweeBarra The Wind That Shakes The Barley A Stór Mo Chroí Thuas ag Gort a Charnain (Dolores Kean) A Chumaraigh Aoibhinn Ó Amhran A Leabhair (David Finnamore) Cailín Na nUrla Donn (Seosaimhín Ní Bheaglaoich) The Maid of Culmore(Óige) Flower of Finae (Niamh Parsons) Black Waterside Beir Mo Dhúthracht (Begley & Cooney) Oh, my. There are so many. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Davey Date: 20 Oct 99 - 12:11 PM OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS, I posted that twice.... Slap... Sorry!!! |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Davey Date: 20 Oct 99 - 12:08 PM Jim Stewart, of St. John, New Brunswick (that's in Canada *Grin*) wrote a tune called Lament for Owen Christie, in memory of the Irish immigrants that came to Canada during the potato famine in the 1800s. Many of them are buried on an island in St. John harbour, and Owen Christie is the name on one of the graves. Hearing the tune always sends chills down my spine. |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Magpie Date: 20 Oct 99 - 11:30 AM Oh man, look what you've started!!! BOYS OF BARR NA SRAIDE BELLS OF DUNBLANE THE BAND PLAYED WALTZING MATHILDA WHERE YOU THERE (as done by Johnny Cash(!) GIVE ME YOUR HAND (TAHBAIR DOM DO LAMH) done slowly Oh I could go on and on and on and on and on..... Magpie |
Subject: RE: Most haunting melodies? From: Jack (Who is called Jack) Date: 20 Oct 99 - 11:03 AM There are a lot. A few that come to mind are Finlandia I think its gonna rain today Summertime Rollin down to old Maui |
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