I am humbled

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 02:24 PM

Having a only the second major relationship of my life end a few months ago, I too would love to see Annap's and Little Neo's list.

I have often found it curious that a lot of women I consider to be pretty wonderful end up with guys who I would consider goofs. I was not surprised to read a post recently from a guy who loved a woman who as it turned out had an ex in prison who beat her up when he got out and she ended up going back with him. You can comment all you want on this particular woman, but I have seen several examples of this very type of behaviour.

I hear women say that they're looking for sensitive, caring men with a sense of humour. I doubt that our woman beating ex con was any of the above (perhaps he laughed as he beat her), but I think that a lot of women who find what they describe as ideal find them to less than manly and therefore see them more as a friend.

Subject: Lyr Add: BLUE CLICKY THING (tune of Road to Dundee
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 02:48 PM

This is a song I've just written which seems to fit in here. It's got a tune, but it'd fit to lots of others. (The Road to Dundee would do, more or less).

THE BLUE CLICKY THING
I spied it one day, I was trawling the net,
a fish like a cat, what an elegant pet.
When I reached out to touch, me head started to spin -
I was off for a ride on the Blue Clicky Thing.
The Blue Clicky Thing, the Blue Clicky Thing,
it can take you away like a magical ring.
It can make you as free as a bird on the wing,
the Mudcat Cafe and the Blue Clicky Thing.

I was off on a ride and admiring the view,
there were places I got to that I never knew,
there were stories to hear, there were songs for to sing,
there were all kinds of folk in the Blue Clicky Thing.
The Blue Clicky Thing, the Blue Clicky Thing,
it can take you away like a magical ring,
It can make you as free as a bird on the wing,
the Mudcat Cafe and the Blue Clicky Thing

There are names you can mutter and photos to see,
of neighbours next door, 'cross the wide rolling sea,
and a tavern where you can drop in for a drink,
and gossip with friends, in the Blue Clicky Thing.
The Blue Clicky Thing, the Blue Clicky Thing,
it can take you away like a magical ring,
It can make you as free as a bird on the wing,
The Mudcat Cafe and the Blue Clicky Thing.

Well I try to explain, and you might understand,
it's a fine place to go to when you're feeling grand -
but when your heart's heavy, and you're shackled and pinned,
you can reach out for help with the Blue Clicky Thing
The Blue Clicky Thing, the Blue Clicky Thing,
it can take you away like a magical ring,
and holds us together like brown paper and string,
the Mudcat Cafe and the Blue Clicky Thing.

22nd October 1999

"copyright Kevin McGrath (but anyone to do with Mudcat or Digital Tradition is welcome to use it any way they might want)".

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 03:22 PM

Oh, Kevin, thank you for that. It's been a very, very blue day here, for me and your song just made me smile. Why don't you sing it and send it to Max, for the radio show? Then Rick Fileding can really go down in history; he will never live down the fact that it was himself who coined the term, "blue clicky thing(ie).

Steve, young women or ones without too much experience with "hunks" or whatever, may feel that way about sensitive men, but those of us who've been there, done that, learn we are none of us exactly as hoped for and we learn to compromise through the eyes and heart of love. This is damn hard to do, sometimes, like today, but still it seems worth it in the long run, esp. after a history together. I love attractive men, which I consider all of you Mudcatters to be, BUT that is not what attracts me to want to know a man more. Rather it is the depth of his feelings, emotions, beliefs, opinions, listening ability, willingness to forgive and/or apologise, perception, ability to "read" emotions and to act upon that whether he feels like it or not, sometimes, etc., etc. that would make me want to know a whole lot more about that man. These are not impossible standards...almost everyone of you here have demonstrated them repeatedly. Women get tired of men expecting them to be fashion-plate bimbos, with the starved, pre-pubescent body look of Madison ave. Some of us eschewed such strictures a long time ago and have been wearing purple, Birks, and all cotton, even our undies, for years, in a bid for comfort and independence from all pervasive mass media. Thank gawd I found the Mudcat where that seems to be more the norm than t'other!

katstilldepressedbutfeelingbetter|

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Peter T.
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 03:57 PM

Great, great song McGrath!yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Bert
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 04:16 PM

Sorry to hear you're feeling down Kat me old 'ghing. Cheer up and that's an order, or I'll make you stand on the stage and sing five verses of 'The Sow Song'

Bert. (If there's anything we do can for you just shout.)

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 04:32 PM

T'anks, 'ert. Now I'm gonna hafta go see what the hell THAT song is all about! Most of it is just discouragement with the gd'd idiots of the world and some of it is flat-out depressed at no changes in sighte yet, for where the hell we are, and some of it is being pissed off at physical limitations! I guess, if I wasn't spade, it'd probably be my moontime and everybody would steer clear! I've got the ennui/isolation blues, I guess. I will be okay, though, thanks to the Mudcat denizens, like YOU!

love you, kat

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Davey
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 04:49 PM

Kat, you've been so friendly and helpful since I arrived. I can to a certain extent relate to having to put up with some 'idiots' and not being able to do much about it. Also my body keeps reminding me I'm not twenty-five any more and to stop acting like I am. Here's a hug for you ( ) and keep on singing, it'll help drive the blue funk away. Luv, Davey :>)

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Bert
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 05:02 PM

It's in the DT. I sang a version of it on Mudcat Radio a few weeks ago. Guarantee you can't sing it without laughing.

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 05:11 PM

Hi Steve
Regarding: List of Things That Attracts Me To A Man

First of all, my list of what attracted me to a man has recently changed because it was a pathetic list. I was drawn to men who confirmed my worthlessness, or men who needed me (at least I thought they needed me). I was also drawn to men I thought I could help blossom or I was drawn to men who looked like my Dad.
Well, I seem to now realize the old attraction list has gotten me nowhere except in the current situation I am now which is 'done that, been there'. I started creating healthier attraction lists, but then I decided to give up on the grocery listing all together. I now just work on myself. I try to be the best person I can which to me is composed of all the qualities like being kind, considerate, loving, open, honest, patient, compassionate..... things like that. Instead of looking out there for who is best for me, I work on being my best. I don't really look for men anymore. I gave up looking. Well, actually, I ask God VERY seriously for one favor, "please help me stop constanty looking for a man". I asked for months and months. One day I woke up and my preoccupation with men was gone. The constant thinking about dating was gone and the wanting someone to notice me was gone too. I felt like a free woman. Now I just enjoy my day, being the best person I can and I have assigned 'Chicken Little' with a very important job. One day when I least expect it, when I am not looking, the right partner for me will drop out of the clear blue sky.

Little Neo

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Margo
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 05:14 PM

Here's a chuckle, Kat. Speaking of man/woman housekeeping: Jack came home yesterday to a messy house. He asked about my day, and I explained that I had done laundry, laundry, and more laundry. (When he gets down to one pair of BVD's he asks me to do laundry). Then I said, "Yeah, I know. It doesn't look like I've done anything. But you see, you can have either clean laundry or a tidy house. But I can't do both clean laundry and tidy house. But if you want dirty laundry and messy house, well, no problem! I can do that!" Jack got a laugh out of that. Margo

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Peter T.
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 05:15 PM

Nothing called "The Sow Song" in the DT -- is it "The Old Sow Song?" (1) or (2)?
Kat, here is a free spiritual grenade for you. Imagine if you will your favourite target. Breathe deeply, think warm compassionate, earthchanging thoughts, hurl grenade. You will feel much better.
yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Bert
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 05:17 PM

That's the one Peter T. I sing version Number2

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Big Mick
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 05:38 PM

Thanks to Harpgirl for kind of capturing where I was headed. I was not trying to imply that men canna be nurturing, nor that women haven't had to be Mom and Pop. I was speaking in the general sense of the identity's that we have sort of stereotypically put on our boys. I find that identity to be flawed. And in our attempts over the last 30 years or so to redefine the roles of males and females, and what that means, I have also seen a whiplash that in some cases seemed to deny the essential male nature. I was attempting to say that had I been blessed with a son (and I was blessed by 3 lovely daughters, two of whom are marvelous young women whom I greatly admire and love) I would have tried to trod a road that would allow him to fully explore his masculinity. But enhance and enrich this by teaching him about the wonders of the part of him that is more feminine. By teaching him about how fulfilling life can be when you walk the path with a full partner at your side. Teaching him that love is important but respect is more important. Teach him that male and female is not about roles, but more that it is about complementing strengths and feelings.

I am still rambling, I hope you will bear with me. But the excellent insights that I am reading in this thread have inspired a lot of thoughts. In other words, you bowsies are keeping me up nights thinking.............LOL..........and I love it. But then again, that is why I love this village and its denizens. I think I feel a song coming on.

Big Mick

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Cara
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 05:46 PM

A friend of mine forwarded me a work-related email she got the other day from someone she'd never met. His signature/tag line thingie that went out with every message, right below his name, was this: "The fact that I am single is rock-solid proof that women really do not date nice guys". That's not true, all you nice guys, so don't believe it (it was funny though).

I think the problem a lot of people suffer from is just being afraid to put themselves out there and face up to the possibility of being rejected. That seems a bit simplistic, but if you have that hang-up than the rest of your sparkling personality and good looks don't matter at all. I like Neo's answer about just working on herself. It's a win-win deal.

And kat dear, those who fight for justice are allowed to have days when it all comes crashing in. You just have to go with it, drink some tea, pamper yourself for a day, and then tomorrow go right back and give'em hell. I'm sure you know that once your eyes have been opened to the world's injustice, they can never really close again. And that fighting for what's right is, oddly, the only thing that will give you any peace. But that's for tomorrow. For today, try to sing the Sow Song. It'll crack you up.

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Big Mick
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 06:14 PM

Oh, and by the way, the third daughter is a great kid, but she is only seven. Didn't mean to imply that two were great and the other wasn't. She is well on her way to being a great human being. Step dances, sings, and wants to learn how to chop wood like her Da........hahahaha.

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 08:09 PM

Good point Cara
I find many people, like myself are so frighten of rejection. This fear creates a natural reflex to protect ourselves with a shielded fortress or worse, trying to be what you think the other person wants you to be.
It is not easy being open, to totally 'showing up', guards down, and vulnerable. But in my opinion, it is worth striving for. The more I work towards dismantling my guards and being open around others the more alive and vibrant I feel. It is also my best chance to experience the other person attempting to open up too.
Little Neo

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 08:28 PM

Thanks Davey, Cara, Margo, Bert & Peter. Peter I tried that thing with Rog, but it really blew up! Bert, now I remember you singing that on the radio. Made me laugh so hard my sides ached. Now I am smiling...thanks, friend.

Cara & LilNeo: I guess by now everyone knows, I've always been totally open and willing to put myself out there. I think it was 1) because i was the youngest of five and so had to speak up or get lost in the shuffle, 2) I have two sisters out of three who are, at times, still painfully shy and were always asking/making me do their "upfront" work, i.e. phone calls, doorbell ringing, first on the dance floor, etc. 3) for some reason I was raised to have an abundance of self-confidence, not just in looks, but within, in my Spirit; lot of praise from my parents, but also an innate sense of my own self-worth.

That said, LilNeo, you have the right way of doing it, by concentrating and loving yourself. When we love ourselves, other will follow.:-) Also you used a very important word: vulnerable. You know, because we've talked, but being so open does carry a price, if you aren't careful. It makes you more vulnerable to hurt, disappointment, and grief; but, if you are of a passionate nature, I think it is the only way you can live life fully and honestly.

Of course, I am saying this from the comfort of a twenty year relationship (although it doesn't feel like one right now!). I'd probably be a lot more wary now than I used to be. In general though, I've found men appreciate a woman who is honest with them. I used to go out alone and some guy would offer to buy me a drink. I was always very blunt, telling them I wouldn't f*** them later, if that was what they were expecting, but that I would be happy to spend an evening dancing etc. with them, as long as they understood that. I never had a bad reaction to that blunt honesty and it took away all of the gut-wrenching games that kept everyone wondering if the other party was attracted or "THE one", etc.

Anyhow, my 2 cents worth, or a bit more. Thanks for listening to me, today. gawds and gawddesses bless the Mudders!

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 09:03 PM

Wise words Mama KatSageWalker.
Nothing like following the foot steps of a smart mama. To avoid me becoming toooooo vulnerable, how about I keep my long johns on, trap door buttoned up? That should offer adequate protection eh?

Little you know who

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Neil Lowe
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 10:33 PM

Amen to that last, kat. I am sorry you are not feeling your usual, jubilant self .... I have marvelled at how adept you are at manifesting your exhuberance through your posts...if you were to pass me on the street I am not sure I would recognize you...yet if I did I would not think twice about handing you the keys to the car if you needed a ride...or to the house if you needed shelter...Or let you borrow my guitar (now we're talking seriously *BG*)...and NOI that scares the livin' bejeezus out of me in a way because I trust you based on the way you strung some words together on an internet music forum. If I told someone who was not familiar with this forum what I just told you, s/he would think I had lost my faculties (if s/he had not already come to that conclusion).

And Li'l Neo....sounds like you've outgrown your self-imposed moniker....perhaps a little cross-threading is in order here ....please harken back to the thread where Peter T was describing the bodhisattvas...have you looked in the mirror lately?....and if you've not read Kahlil Gibran's The Prophet, may I be so bold as to recommend it to you...his work has also been weaved through a few of the threads over the months... you may find some of your thoughts mirrored there as well...

Regards, Neil

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: _gargoyle
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 10:40 PM

It is a sad state of affairs....

The daughter's of Sapho are now inviting the Queebs ashore.

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: harpgirl
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 10:51 PM

...if you're talking about me golgart, I happen to be straight...

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: _gargoyle
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 11:22 PM

Oh...Harpgirl....

Deffinately, never... would I talk "smack" about you.

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 11:22 PM

Dear Neil, you have just paid me some of the highest compliments a writer and a friend could ever hope for. Thank you so much! It pleases me that you consider me adept at getting across my passion for life, but I don't think I am doing anything extraordinary here at the Mudcat. It's full of phoaks who are so able to express themselves, including you! Plus, the 'Cat is so stimulating to the intellect; it seems to bring out some of the best of spontaniety. When I can't get motivated to write my column, I sometimes imagine posting to the 'Cat and the muse returns.

On the street? Probably not, but in a Mudcat gathering or some such, all I'd have to do is open my mouth and I'll bet you'd know in an instant 'twas me. I tend to be as passionate in person and whilst talking as much as in writing. Now, about that gee-tar.....I nevah expected you to get so serious so fast, sweetie!**BG** Oh, and the house.....if I have any more days like today, I just might be looking!

Little Bodhi: you are such a sweetie and you have so much wisdom within you that you are letting us catch glimpses of, Neil is right, you have gone beyond your early moniker.

Gratefullykat

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: _gargoyle
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 11:25 PM

Well done Max....

As the flicks say..."mine will see yours."

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 11:29 PM

Well that'll about do it...........

Garg you can be knowledgeable and all that crap, but you are at most times the most unmitigated asshole I've ever had the singular displeasure of having met. What the fuck is your problem? If this type of thread bothers you ... DON'T POST!!!! Your contributions to the music threads are many times spot on, intelligent and humorous......but THIS is just a lot of shit! The 'Cat is what it is and keeps evolving. You may not like it but its what it is and you aren't going to change a thing. Your "joy" at "getting under the skin" you may have, but I wouldn't trade my skin for yours on a bet. It must be a real drag to be you.

Nobody buys your crap around here and yeah, you get to piss us off and ain't that just fine. But I don't really give a fine hair on a fat frogs ass anymore about you or what you have to say. For every one time you act like a reasonable human being there are a dozen times you act like a total moron. I figure you're just psychotic, so go have a beer and a smile and shut the fuck up. You're just a stone waste of carbon atoms and if you had any shards of human feeling left, they are now so far buried as to be non-existent. Most of us have found it best to ignore your ass totally, but now and then something needs to be said and I guess its my turn to say it.

Have a nice day.

Spaw

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: bbelle
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 11:34 PM

I've tried to stay out of this thread because, like big mick, it conjures up all sorts of thoughts. In many ways, my father is emotionally stunted, as are his 5 sibling from parents that loved them but didn't show it. My father is a great hugger, as are both my sisters, and hugging is a very important emotion for me. My father cries when his daughters get married or even when they call to wish him a happy birthday or father's day. Unfortunately, he is also the most critical person imaginable towards me. He wasn't always that way and I grew up in a household with a father who was very warm and not mr. macho. Through the ages, society has dictated what men will be like ... strong, the breadwinner, stoic ... and hasn't given them much chance to break out of that mold. I've never chosen men who were inherently macho ... preferring, instead, men who are secure in their sexuality and not fearful of showing emotion or their feminine side. It certainly hasn't been easy because men are raised with such a sense of their "machismo." BTW, harpgirl, I applaud you ... moonchild

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: _gargoyle
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 11:36 PM

And when ye have swept the house...and made it clean...take care...for if you fall back into your previous state...they will return...and bring with them...seven fold more...and you will only be worse than off than before.

Have fun

Recoice!

Max broke the convenant....halaleugha!

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 11:46 PM

Uh, 'Spaw, I think the keg's already been drained. Bravo, though.

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 06:40 AM

Many thanks Neil, it's funny you should mention that book, I actually have a copy of The Prophet; never read it, just thought it looked impressive on my bookshelf. I think it's time for me to go see what Kahlil has to say.
Can I change my moniker to 'Little Neil?'

Mama KatSageWalker, do I have to change my moniker? It suits my style. Kind of like working for a theatre company, and taking on jobs behind the scenes.
Little Neo

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 10:51 AM

Nah, LilNeo, you don't have to do anyhting you do't want to. Sometimes, though, I may do what someone else has already done, like i did with 'Spaw and call you 'Phyte, if that's okay with you. I still like LilNeo, too!

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Neil Lowe
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 11:07 AM

Geez 'Spaw....don't be so reserved....don't hold back...don't mince words....say what you really mean....

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 11:44 AM

You're right Neil......I'm just so concerned over what people might think that I find it hard to express my true feelings.

Spaw

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 12:03 PM

Catspaw, I'm laughing my little noggin off! You've brought me out of my self-imposed shell. This has been a wonderful thread! Thanks for starting it Davey.

Rick

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: wildlone
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 01:16 PM

In the town where I live is a fine old church that used to be an Abbey before Henry IV had it closed.
Many tourists come and look round but not many see the old carved figures that stand around the roof.
Unless it rains,then all the dirt and bird crap is expelled through their mouths on the people beneath.
I do not like attacking people but I feel that our gargoyle is very much like his cousins here in Sherborne showering shit on people.
yours wildlonesomtimescalleddaveorevendavidbutcanstillcry.

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 01:30 PM

Bless your heart, David!

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: WyoWoman
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 01:39 PM

A wee little creepage:

In "The Prophet," Gibran has one poem with the words

"Your children are not your children,
They are the sons and the daughters
Of life's longing for itself.
They come through you
But belong not to you ..."

(words that were my credo when raising my children, by the way), and Sweet Honey in the Rock made that poem into a song on their "Good News" album that is just wonderful.

WW

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: wildlone
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 01:45 PM

missed a couple of II in there must have meant Henry VIII
thats better

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 03:33 PM

It has been a good early autumn here in Lake Woebeonvacation: the gang of twelve (hundred) keep going their merry way, singing songs and tipping flagons of philosophy and jars of humor, munching on oysters of both the maritime and the mountain varieties...and gleefully welcoming new residents and communicants. Joining the population this season have been such as the tiny tyro, a Davey and a David, the offspring of "Mrs. McGrath," and many others, all of whom have found the village a quaint and curious place, even though it is also home to the frumious bandersnatch, a curious beast who creeps around--often under cover of darkness--and puts tacks on the park benches and saran wrap on the toilet seats and passes out chocolate Ex-lax chip cookies, and claims to be doing it in the name of God-who-spells-His-Name-with-capital-letters. Occasionally, after he has slipped a nettle leaf into someone's cotton underwear, he is set upon and driven from the town square, but mostly the villagers ignore him or smile indulgently at his antics. And life goes on...

--seed(whohasbeenwaitingalongtimetogerminateandwondersjustwhatkindoforganismhewillbecomewhenitfinallyhappens)

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Jeri
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 04:08 PM

BSeed, gee, you're a lot more philosophical about it than I am. I just sort of look at the jerk as going around leaving piles of poop on the sidewalk, and I can choose to walk around them. It's actually pretty funny when he slams somebody and misspells half the words, some of which he's made really big or bold so we're sure not to miss it. It often sounds like folks are being insulted by a spoiled ten year old who snuck onto his parents' computer. Oh well, not everybody gets through those high school English courses...or even potty training.

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 06:11 PM

Aw, Jeri, he's just misunderstood (or as he puts it, "miss-interpreted"), along with being misanthropic, misogynistic, xenophobic, homophobic, devoid of either humor or compassion. If you can overlook these minor flaws, he's a really sweet guy.

--seed

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: annamill
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 06:34 PM

I am Humbled ;-) **BG** LOL

Love, annap

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: jon a
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 07:24 PM

Wow, so deep and just what I expect from the 'cat. Kat:- I hope you are feeling better by the time you read this, take comfort in the love we return to you, as you give love out to those in need.

Mick:- take a hug, man to man, I have a Girl and a Boy and am very lucky, I hope that I can be balanced in dealing with them, I certainly hug and kiss them both, they are young yet(19 months and 6 months) but I will not let age change that too much. Emotions are a large part of who you are, supressing those emotions hides the real you, sometimes even from yourself; if I am able to influence my son, I will always advise him to be himself. The same advise I would also give my Daughter, and also anyone else who asked. If we were all ourselves all the time maybe there would be less heartache when we realise our mistakes.

Davey:- Be humbled by all means,but be yourself, and following that, most importantly, be part of it! there is a place here where you can belong and be accepted, it is a great place to belong to.

Jon

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 08:46 PM

Thanks, Jon, I am and I do. Nice to see you back on. Good words.

luvyaKat

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Big Mick
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 10:17 PM

Hug back at ya, Jon. Good to hear from you.

Mick

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Bill Cameron
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 10:49 PM

This thread is a bit of a departure. It doesn't have squat to do with folk music, but it sure sounds like a bunch of folkies! I'd feel like a voyeur, having gone through all these personal messages, if i didn't leave one of my own.

I just recently returned to the 'Cat and the online world in general after a five-month absence provoked by a nasty Chernobyl virus that whacked my hard drive way back in the spring. This is one of the few online forums (two, actually, and the other is a private listserv) where I feel I can talk about what's fairly deeply on my mind, in my heart even--whether or not it involves arcane folk music trivia. My problem is it's easier to do it here than it is to talk out loud to the flesh and blood people in my own family, notably my spouse! (I do like being able to edit my words and take my time with them until they're ready to post, and get similarly measured responses) So if I spend too much time online, I feel like I'm isolating myself from her...she says she likes reading my outbound e-mail though so she finds out what I'm thinking. I kind of enjoyed a few months off the Net without a single working computer--had all kinds of time to do stuff (not that there's that much to show for it). Now we've each got our own Pentium set up again in opposite ends of the house...two solitudes. (One phone line)(Usually busy it seems.)

Fortunately I can post this, turn the box off and go up to bed. Anytime I like.

Who says I'm addicted?

Anyhoo, here's hoping better times for all of us that needs 'em! (my own current main pastime is getting physiotherapy on my left arm which I messed up yanking too hard on a chainsaw pullcord. Bleah.)

Bill

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Big Mick
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 10:55 PM

Welcome back, friend Bill. We have missed you.

Big Mick

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: Bill
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 11:02 PM

Ya don't say! I'm touched.

Really going to bed now though.

Bill

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: _gargoyle
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 11:31 PM

Dear Davey,

About my comments....make no mistake
It is a hand of welcome...not one of hate

With your nomelcur...I make no bones....
It is shared by good fellows....Crocket and Jones

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Oct 99 - 12:01 AM

Welcome back, Bill. Sounds as though we may have some things in common, although we've only one on-line pewter with its own line and I have no problem telling him anything. It is fun and very interesting to see how comfortable we feel posting all manner of things here. Good health to you and your arm...ouch!

katlaughing

Subject: RE: I am humbled
From: bbc
Date: 24 Oct 99 - 08:52 AM

Bill,

I'm glad you feel comfortable here. Who knows--maybe, in time, if you get in the habit of expressing your thoughts & feelings here, they'll come out more easily at home, too. Here's to hoping (from a woman whose husband, seemingly out of the blue, announced a need to divorce after 5 years of unexpressed/unheard unhappiness).

best to you & yours,

bbc